SuicideKings 2011-12 NBA Thread

**Love The Action** · 01-18-12, 10:40 PM

Originally posted by suicidekings

I think Dallas is unquestionably the play here, at -2 or on the ML.

Agreed on both counts. I was planning on playing Dallas with or without Paul. I was hoping he was playing so we could Dallas at -1 or a PK. I was in a meeting and missed the move to -3 or I would have bought the hook to -2. A bit concerned by the exposure at -3, but I think the combination of a thin backcourt and fatigue will be too much to overcome against a highly motivated Mavs team with a superstar that could be playing possum with the whole "says he's sick and drops 30" routine.

Good luck buddy

**suicidekings** · 01-18-12, 10:58 PM

Originally posted by Love The Action

Agreed on both counts. I was planning on playing Dallas with or without Paul. I was hoping he was playing so we could Dallas at -1 or a PK. I was in a meeting and missed the move to -3 or I would have bought the hook to -2. A bit concerned by the exposure at -3, but I think the combination of a thin backcourt and fatigue will be too much to overcome against a highly motivated Mavs team with a superstar that could be playing possum with the whole "says he's sick and drops 30" routine. Good luck buddy

Dirk isn't even really playing great ball yet this year, but it hasn't mattered because of the addition of Carter/Odom/West. Along with Kidd/Marion, he's surrounded by a veteran group that exemplify team basketball. He'll step up to superstar status as needed down the stretch and into the playoffs, but as you say, his status in this game isn't as critical to the Mavs as people think. I actually think your -3 should be plenty safe as well, with Dallas winning this game with room to spare.

Let's get it.

**suicidekings** · 01-19-12, 01:28 AM

Originally posted by suicidekings

1/18

Nuggets +6 (-110) x1
Nets -2 (-130) x1
Mavs ML (-140) x2

1/18: 2-1 (-0.8u)
YTD: 26-27-1 (-3.17u)

Tight finish. Night ruined...

**hawley** · 01-19-12, 01:30 AM

Wish the Mavs would of won today looking ahead to playing Utah tomorrow.

I still like the Jazz with the Mavs on a tough b2b

**suicidekings** · 01-19-12, 01:39 AM

Originally posted by hawley

Wish the Mavs would of won today looking ahead to playing Utah tomorrow. I still like the Jazz with the Mavs on a tough b2b

When I made that bet this afternoon, Mo Williams had been listed as doubtful and was not supposed to start today. Instead he put up 26 points on 11/15 shooting. Balls.

I don't think it matters for tomorrow though. Tonight was an intense game and having lost by 2 instead of winning by 1 makes little difference to the amount of energy the Mavs had to expend tonight. It was an intense game for both teams.

**riffraff24** · 01-19-12, 02:53 AM

Tough one. I ended up hedging after the 3rd with Clipps ML +130

**Dexter** · 01-19-12, 06:23 PM

Originally posted by suicidekings

1/18: 2-1 (-0.8u)
YTD: 26-27-1 (-3.17u)

Tight finish. Night ruined...

i had the ML as well, and pretty big 5x....i fell asleep and woke up to watch the last minute. what a tease.

**suicidekings** · 01-21-12, 06:38 PM

Originally posted by suicidekings

1/19

Jazz -2 (-110) x2

1/19: 0-1 (-2.2u)
YTD: 26-28-1 (-5.37u)

**suicidekings** · 01-21-12, 06:46 PM

1/21

Sixers +7 (-108) x2
Sixers ML (+280) x0.5

I like the Sixers here to challenge the Heat all game. This is an important matchup and I think the Heat are being overvalued here against a tough and athletic Philly team. +7 is not enough respect shown to a team that can hurt you so many different ways.

**lunchbawks** · 01-21-12, 06:47 PM

no hawes no way the 6r win

**suicidekings** · 01-21-12, 07:02 PM

Originally posted by lunchbawks

no hawes no way the 6r win

You should really pay off your debt from your "special offer" before you post in here. Until then, I'm not interested in your opinion.

**suicidekings** · 01-21-12, 07:12 PM

Originally posted by suicidekings

1/21

Sixers +7 (-108) x2
Sixers ML (+280) x0.5

Rockets 1Q -1.5 (-105) x2

The Rockets are one of the better 1Q teams in the NBA. The Spurs are on a B2B and are missing 2 of the big 3 in the roster tonight with Ginobli still hurt and Duncan sitting out. Scola is going to have a big game today.

**suicidekings** · 01-21-12, 09:55 PM

Originally posted by suicidekings

1/21

Sixers +7 (-108) x2
Sixers ML (+280) x0.5
Rockets 1Q -1.5 (-105) x2

1/21: 1-2 (-0.68u)
YTD: 27-30-1 (-6.05u)

**suicidekings** · 01-22-12, 04:48 PM

1/23

Grizzlies ML (+111) x1
Mavs -6 (+100) x1

**demens** · 01-22-12, 05:06 PM

That mavs line will drop more imo. Maybe till 5. I dont think everyone realizes Dirk is taking some time off plus the Suns look nice beating some weak big name teams on the road in their last 2.

I'm playing that too but will wait and see how the line will move. Although i like the -6 +100 better then -5.5 -105.

Btw. A play i really like tomorrow is Bulls 1q. I did pretty shitty betting on my Nets last year and one of the factors that helped me end up in green is that i stopped betting on them completely. This season i have made no bets on them yet but i feel this is a great spot. I also hate 1q bets as anything can happen in just 12 minutes of basketball.

But my Nets are dead last in 1st q offense AND defense. Obviously last in point margin way behind Sactown who is 29th. Bulls are top 6 or 7 in most categories. Combined that with the Nets non existent paint offense and the Bulls defense. Nets have been shooting the 3 pretty decent lately and for some reason the Bulls are ranked mid 20s in 3 point defense, but last season they were top 3 in the category iirc. Add on the fact the Nets are playing their 3rd straight and are one of the worst b2b teams in the league i think this is a blow out from the 1st quoter. I hope Rose doesn't play.

**suicidekings** · 01-22-12, 08:03 PM

Originally posted by demens

That mavs line will drop more imo. Maybe till 5. I dont think everyone realizes Dirk is taking some time off plus the Suns look nice beating some weak big name teams on the road in their last 2. I'm playing that too but will wait and see how the line will move. Although i like the -6 +100 better then -5.5 -105. Btw. A play i really like tomorrow is Bulls 1q. I did pretty shitty betting on my Nets last year and one of the factors that helped me end up in green is that i stopped betting on them completely. This season i have made no bets on them yet but i feel this is a great spot. I also hate 1q bets as anything can happen in just 12 minutes of basketball. But my Nets are dead last in 1st q offense AND defense. Obviously last in point margin way behind Sactown who is 29th. Bulls are top 6 or 7 in most categories. Combined that with the Nets non existent paint offense and the Bulls defense. Nets have been shooting the 3 pretty decent lately and for some reason the Bulls are ranked mid 20s in 3 point defense, but last season they were top 3 in the category iirc. Add on the fact the Nets are playing their 3rd straight and are one of the worst b2b teams in the league i think this is a blow out from the 1st quoter. I hope Rose doesn't play.

Dirk being out doesn't really concern me. He's not playing at a high level yet this year, and playing less minutes as well. His absence will open up more playing time for Lamar Odom, which he desperately needs to get himself rolling. I only put x1 on each of these for now, but I actually like both teams a lot here.

Bulls 1Q could be good. They're set to have a strong homestand this week, but that also means big spreads. Probably 1Q -4. I think of them as more of a 3Q/2H team in general, but maybe they're getting off to faster starts this year?

**demens** · 01-23-12, 07:50 PM

Took the Mavs at -5.

Rookie stud MarShon Brooks out for the Nets.

**suicidekings** · 01-23-12, 08:47 PM

Originally posted by demens

Took the Mavs at -5. Rookie stud MarShon Brooks out for the Nets.

Great call on Chicago 1Q. It wasn't even close. Unfortunately, I just got home 15 minutes ago and had no time to get down on it. Feeling pretty good about the Mavs tonight, regardless of line. I can see a DD win coming.

**demens** · 01-23-12, 10:55 PM

<table class="mod-data" width="100%" border="1"><tbody><tr class="even"><td style="text-align:center;" valign="top" width="50">0:05</td><td style="text-align:left;" valign="top">Markieff Morris makes 25-foot three point jumper (Steve Nash assists)</td><td style="text-align:center;" valign="top" nowrap="nowrap">87-93</td></tr></tbody></table>

shit luck man.

**suicidekings** · 01-23-12, 11:18 PM

Originally posted by demens

<table class="mod-data" border="1" width="100%"><tbody><tr class="even"><td style="text-align:center;" valign="top" width="50">0:05</td><td style="text-align:left;" valign="top">Markieff Morris makes 25-foot three point jumper (Steve Nash assists)</td><td style="text-align:center;" nowrap="nowrap" valign="top">87-93</td></tr></tbody></table>

shit luck man.

Agreed, but at least the push is no harm, no foul. I've been taking a lot of last second losses this year so I can't complain. On to tomorrow.

**suicidekings** · 01-23-12, 11:26 PM

LIVE (25-40 GS, 2:44 2Q)

Grizzlies +11 (-108) x3
Grizzlies ML (+622) x0.5

**dlunc3** · 01-24-12, 12:52 AM

Originally posted by suicidekings

LIVE (25-40 GS, 2:44 2Q)

Grizzlies +11 (-108) x3
Grizzlies ML (+622) x0.5

wow.. i think you are the only happy guy on this site right now haha
congrats

**No coincidences** · 01-24-12, 12:53 AM

Unreal hit on Memphis SK. I'd say that more than made up for the Dallas push.

**suicidekings** · 01-24-12, 12:56 AM

Originally posted by suicidekings

1/23

Mavs -6 (+100) x1
*Grizzlies ML (+111) x1
*Grizzlies ML (+622) x0.5
Grizzlies +11 (-108) x3

*Grizz MLs will only count as 1-0, not 2-0.

11/23: 2-0-1 (+7.22u)
YTD: 29-30-2 (+1.17u)

**suicidekings** · 01-24-12, 01:00 AM

Originally posted by No coincidences

Unreal hit on Memphis SK. I'd say that more than made up for the Dallas push.

I'd be lying if I said I wasn't (1) sure I had lost, and (2) drinking shots of Jack Daniels at the middle of the 3Q, but the Grizz just aren't a team you hold down for 48 minutes, and the Warriors definitely aren't the team to stop them. That made up for several tight losses in the last couple weeks

**No coincidences** · 01-24-12, 01:02 AM

Originally posted by suicidekings

I'd be lying if I said I wasn't (1) sure I had lost, and (2) drinking shots of Jack Daniels at the middle of the 3Q, but the Grizz just aren't a team you hold down for 48 minutes, and the Warriors definitely aren't the team to stop them. That made up for several tight losses in the last couple weeks

Frankly, the Warriors should be embarrassed. I had no doubts that Memphis would make a run, but that was an all-out implosion and GS did nothing to stop the bleeding. Ellis and Curry chucking threes when they're down 1 late?

**suicidekings** · 01-24-12, 01:13 AM

Originally posted by No coincidences

Frankly, the Warriors should be embarrassed. I had no doubts that Memphis would make a run, but that was an all-out implosion and GS did nothing to stop the bleeding. Ellis and Curry chucking threes when they're down 1 late?

Gotta give credit to Tony Allen for a lot of that late Grizz defense. I would go as far as saying he's a top 5 man-to-man defender in the NBA, and a huge reason I like the Grizz so much.

Golden State's problem is that for all the improvement they've made, they are still seriously lacking in big men. Biedrins sucks, Udoh sucks, and everyone else is undersized. David Lee is their only dependable interior presence and if he's playing 35+ minutes a night with the opposing bigs coming at him constantly, he gets into foul trouble and has to back off. I don't know if you were watching, but he dodged multiple fouls earlier to avoid his 5th until the final minutes, due to some kind refs. By all rights he should have fouled out long before the end of that game. Until they get a legit starting centre, they have no chance of competing in the post-season.

**No coincidences** · 01-24-12, 01:16 AM

Originally posted by suicidekings

Gotta give credit to Tony Allen for a lot of that late Grizz defense. I would go as far as saying he's a top 5 man-to-man defender in the NBA, and a huge reason I like the Grizz so much.

Golden State's problem is that for all the improvement they've made, they are still seriously lacking in big men. Biedrins sucks, Udoh sucks, and everyone else is undersized. David Lee is their only dependable interior presence and if he's playing 35+ minutes a night with the opposing bigs coming at him constantly, he gets into foul trouble and has to back off. I don't know if you were watching, but he dodged multiple fouls earlier to avoid his 5th until the final minutes, due to some kind refs. By all rights he should have fouled out long before the end of that game. Until they get a legit starting centre, they have no chance of competing in the post-season.

Agree with all of that.

Still no excuse, blowing a 17-point lead in the last 7 minutes on your homecourt. That should never happen under any circumstance.

**suicidekings** · 01-24-12, 01:19 AM

Originally posted by No coincidences

Agree with all of that. Still no excuse, blowing a 17-point lead in the last 7 minutes on your homecourt. That should never happen under any circumstance.

God bless the NBA

**suicidekings** · 01-24-12, 02:30 AM

Originally posted by dlunc3

wow.. i think you are the only happy guy on this site right now haha congrats

Gotta get lucky somedays

**demens** · 01-24-12, 09:26 AM

Ha, NBA is awesome isn't it. A little bit of all and you're in the green. Nice!

Is it just me or has there been more blowouts this year then in previous years, it seems like every other game is a 20 or 30 point loss.

Also, 1 thing i like to do to kind of gauge if i'm just making bad picks or having bad/good luck is to keep a record of all games w/l by 1 possession (3 points), a last second meaningless 3 is something you can't really cap. It seems by the end of the season it evens out, so if you've been on the losing end of a bunch of these i think it'll turn around at some point./

**No coincidences** · 01-24-12, 09:34 AM

Originally posted by demens

Ha, NBA is awesome isn't it. A little bit of all and you're in the green. Nice!

Is it just me or has there been more blowouts this year then in previous years, it seems like every other game is a 20 or 30 point loss.

Also, 1 thing i like to do to kind of gauge if i'm just making bad picks or having bad/good luck is to keep a record of all games w/l by 1 possession (3 points), a last second meaningless 3 is something you can't really cap. It seems by the end of the season it evens out, so if you've been on the losing end of a bunch of these i think it'll turn around at some point./

There are some really bad teams.

The Pistons are a player or two above NBDL. Same goes for Bobcats, Wizards, etc. -- just awful.

**demens** · 01-24-12, 09:42 AM

I dont get why the Wiz is so bad. Roster has talent, way too much to be as bad as they are. Obviously Flip Saunders can be a guy that loses a team, and they have a bunch of young cancer type players as it is, so my guess would be that is why. Still surprising they are THAT bad.

**No coincidences** · 01-24-12, 10:39 AM

Originally posted by demens

I dont get why the Wiz is so bad. Roster has talent, way too much to be as bad as they are. Obviously Flip Saunders can be a guy that loses a team, and they have a bunch of young cancer type players as it is, so my guess would be that is why. Still surprising they are THAT bad.

Flip is a proven loser. That's all he does everywhere he goes.

This is Washington in a nutshell:

**GTS925** · 01-24-12, 12:02 PM

Originally posted by demens

I dont get why the Wiz is so bad. Roster has talent, way too much to be as bad as they are. Obviously Flip Saunders can be a guy that loses a team, and they have a bunch of young cancer type players as it is, so my guess would be that is why. Still surprising they are THAT bad.

Originally posted by No coincidences

Flip is a proven loser. That's all he does everywhere he goes.

This is Washington in a nutshell:

He just got FIRED.

Coaching this team is like talking to a 'Wall'.

This photo pretty much sums it up. Player of the Game for this pathetic stat?