John Morrison 2011-12 NBA Thread

**Riceboi** · 01-31-12, 11:16 PM

come on bobcats

**1gamer** · 01-31-12, 11:27 PM

Don't look now, but the Piston are a Chase -110 (A) Bet tomorrow.

GO PISTONS!

**Sandwich** · 01-31-12, 11:38 PM

Does anyone have the past records of JM's NBA V1,V2,V3? I was hoping to help with the 7/5 backtest or find any other helpful data. I have the 2010-2011 record, but I wanted to backtest as far as possible. Much appreciated. I will share any data I find.

**manutd19** · 02-01-12, 12:43 AM

This is bad. Charlotte and detroit are shit

**ChiLLx** · 02-01-12, 12:48 AM

Pistons

Bobcats

**cwbuff44** · 02-01-12, 01:59 AM

Originally posted by ChiLLx

Pistons

Bobcats

This ^^

**Kev the Brit** · 02-01-12, 02:55 AM

I didn't play the JM A Bet on Charlotte last night (B/C player). They play again tonight, with a JM spread of 17 or 18 points.

Currently, their performance against the raw spread is 7-22, which is less than 1 in 3 winning rate. We now need a win rate greater than 1 in 2, backed by 3 points added. Hmmmm. 3 points added to a spread of say 5 points is a significant factor, but 3 added to 15 is nothing special.

Also, they are the 2nd worst road team. Det is the worst, but only because they have played 1 more road game. They have each only won (SU) once on the road in a similar number of games. I know I'm talking SU, but hear me out...

Now I move on to filters. Some of you guys ignore filters, which is your choice. However, with a total risk of approx 20 units, a filter only needs to do its job once in 20 series for it to justify its existance. Also, if the filter focusses on a narrow aspect which doesn't come up very often (and would otherwise significantly reduce betting oppoprtunities), it has to merit consideration. The worst road team filter is narrow in its application and IMHO it will kick in more than 1 in 20 times of betting on bottom feeders. It did just that last night with Det. I'm kicking myself for not checking before the A Bet.

Poor teams are unreliable, both SU and ATS. Look at Charlotte's current run ATS. Its dreadful and well qualified for Chase 110, where stakes are less, but I think the team should be avoided by both systems tonight.

I'm out. But, good luck if you stick with them.

Kev

**Swan4brownlow** · 02-01-12, 03:17 AM

Had a look at the upcoming series and over the next 2 weeks we are going to be backing some really good sides like chicago, OKC, Miami, LAL, Mavs and LAC. Obviously this doesn't guarantee success but I feel much more comfortable backing good sides as opposed to sides like Detroit and Charlotte. Think its a really good chance to make up for the lost ground on the pistons and then some, so even though I've played the A bet for the Bobcats, I think I'll just cop the 1 unit loss. It's all about the long run and a 1.1 unit loss is a lot easier to swallow then another 17.28 units

**Aiwiz** · 02-01-12, 06:04 AM

what a great night for system players^^ first rule guys: NEVER SKIP A BET!! JM f*cked up. see what cats'll show us tonight.

**Wallco99** · 02-01-12, 06:07 AM

Wallco NBA Chase 110
2011-12 System to date: 27-0 (fin. series)
System profit/loss: +27.00 units (fin. series)
Current open series: 1 (-8.26 units)

(1/31/12):
#24 Charlotte (+12½) (C) - Loss
#27 Memphis (+1) (B) - Win

v1 Plays
(A) 20-8
(B) 3-5
(C) 2-3
(D) 2-0

V2 Plays
In production

Games for (2/1/12):
#24 Charlotte (+15) @ Portland (D) (10:05 pm EST)
#29 Detroit (+6½) @ New Jersey (A) (7:35 pm EST)

We will ALWAYS play the M/L on favorites and the point spread (-110) on dogs. There is no point buying in this system, with one exception, if your team is the favorite, and buying down to a zero point spread is cheaper than playing the M/L, then by all means, buy the points, otherwise, M/L on all favorites and point spread on dogs. All results will be based on this principle. All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team, and who is the favorite on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines. I will try to update my post as often as I can throughout the day, if the lines change, but it is the individual bettor’s responsibility to get the appropriate line if it differs from my post. On occasion, we will have plays that go head-head. The system will grade ALL bets, regardless of opponents, how you wish to play these games is your choice.

**manutd19** · 02-01-12, 06:16 AM

Am seriously not touching Charlotte & Detroit for now. Damn they pulled down my B.R

**alexknyc** · 02-01-12, 06:38 AM

Originally posted by manutd19

Am seriously not touching Charlotte & Detroit for now. Damn they pulled down my B.R

I'm on both. I trust the system.

**bauerranch** · 02-01-12, 06:50 AM

I am on both and that is why they call it gambling

**shinnman** · 02-01-12, 08:45 AM

Originally posted by Kev the Brit

I didn't play the JM A Bet on Charlotte last night (B/C player). They play again tonight, with a JM spread of 17 or 18 points.

Currently, their performance against the raw spread is 7-22, which is less than 1 in 3 winning rate. We now need a win rate greater than 1 in 2, backed by 3 points added. Hmmmm. 3 points added to a spread of say 5 points is a significant factor, but 3 added to 15 is nothing special.

Also, they are the 2nd worst road team. Det is the worst, but only because they have played 1 more road game. They have each only won (SU) once on the road in a similar number of games. I know I'm talking SU, but hear me out...

Now I move on to filters. Some of you guys ignore filters, which is your choice. However, with a total risk of approx 20 units, a filter only needs to do its job once in 20 series for it to justify its existance. Also, if the filter focusses on a narrow aspect which doesn't come up very often (and would otherwise significantly reduce betting oppoprtunities), it has to merit consideration. The worst road team filter is narrow in its application and IMHO it will kick in more than 1 in 20 times of betting on bottom feeders. It did just that last night with Det. I'm kicking myself for not checking before the A Bet.

Poor teams are unreliable, both SU and ATS. Look at Charlotte's current run ATS. Its dreadful and well qualified for Chase 110, where stakes are less, but I think the team should be avoided by both systems tonight.

I'm out. But, good luck if you stick with them.

Kev

excellent point about filter, only needs to be right 1 in 20 to work

**stickbit** · 02-01-12, 09:00 AM

Originally posted by shinnman

excellent point about filter, only needs to be right 1 in 20 to work

Exactly

**thelimit0310** · 02-01-12, 11:09 AM

JM January 31

V1 CHARLOTTE +15.5 @ LA Lakers (A) LOSS
V3 DETROIT +12 @ NY Knicks (C) LOSS

RESULTS PER VERSION

Version 1
A: 8-5
B: 2-2
C: 2-0

Version 2
A: 1-2
B: 2-0
C: 0-0

Version 3
A: 16-9
B: 6-3
C: 2-1
DET 1/28-1/31

Totals
A: 25-16
B: 10-4
C: 4-1

JM Feb 1

V1 CHARLOTTE +17.5 @ Portland (B)

All official plays are posted with 3 points bought. ML will not be taken on favorites greater than -3.

**million2one** · 02-01-12, 11:39 AM

Originally posted by thelimit0310

V1 CHARLOTTE +17.5 @ Portland (D)

I think you mean (B)

**thelimit0310** · 02-01-12, 01:04 PM

Originally posted by million2one

I think you mean (B)

Corrected, thanks

**adidas-b 88** · 02-01-12, 02:40 PM

I really hope Charlotte covers today....

**xgame** · 02-01-12, 02:41 PM

wrong game.

**1gamer** · 02-01-12, 03:02 PM

Here's an meaningless fact: Charlotte hasn't lost 10 straight since 2007.

GO BOBCATS at +14.5!

**J.M. Disciple** · 02-01-12, 04:17 PM

I'm curious to how each strategy is working for JM so far.

How much are labby players up?
How much are 1-3-5 players up?
How much are A, B, & C players up?
How much are B&C (3units) players up?

Thanks
JMD

**tj_lightning** · 02-01-12, 04:21 PM

Does anyone have the record for this system without buying the points? The sports book that I use will only let me buy one point. I would like to use the system, but I can't get the extra points. I've read in this forum that you don't need the points, I would like to know what the record is. Any help is appreciated, Thank You.

**DollarBill10** · 02-01-12, 04:48 PM

Originally posted by J.M. Disciple

I'm curious to how each strategy is working for JM so far.

How much are labby players up?
How much are 1-3-5 players up?
How much are A, B, & C players up? - 11 units (not buying points) 1 series open
How much are B&C (3units) players up?

Thanks
JMD

See above...I play A,B,C (no buying points)

**casdio** · 02-01-12, 05:02 PM

wrong topic, sry.

**dlunc3** · 02-01-12, 05:11 PM

Charlotte up to +15

**keemosabi** · 02-01-12, 05:19 PM

Is anybody who bet on the Bobcats for the A, B, and C bets not betting the D bet tonight?

**dlunc3** · 02-01-12, 05:21 PM

Originally posted by keemosabi

Is anybody who bet on the Bobcats for the A, B, and C bets not betting the D bet tonight?

its a B bet for one system and a D for another.. even those who dont follow the systems might wanna throw some change down on this one

**casdio** · 02-01-12, 05:24 PM

Originally posted by dlunc3

its a B bet for one system and a D for another.. even those who dont follow the systems might wanna throw some change down on this one

I have betted on them twice, 1 for each system

**dlunc3** · 02-01-12, 05:31 PM

Originally posted by casdio

I have betted on them twice, 1 for each system

wow gl man..

who has the most on this game??

**bisturis** · 02-01-12, 06:24 PM

I'm following the systems all the way through also. Good luck tonight people!

**Wallco99** · 02-01-12, 06:39 PM

Wallco NBA Chase 110
2011-12 System to date: 27-0 (fin. series)
System profit/loss: +27.00 units (fin. series)
Current open series: 1 (-8.26 units)

(1/31/12):
#24 Charlotte (+12½) (C) - Loss
#27 Memphis (+1) (B) - Win

v1 Plays
(A) 20-8
(B) 3-5
(C) 2-3
(D) 2-0

V2 Plays
In production

Games for (2/1/12):
#24 Charlotte (+15) @ Portland (D) (10:05 pm EST)
#29 Detroit (+6½) @ New Jersey (A) (7:35 pm EST)

We will ALWAYS play the M/L on favorites and the point spread (-110) on dogs. There is no point buying in this system, with one exception, if your team is the favorite, and buying down to a zero point spread is cheaper than playing the M/L, then by all means, buy the points, otherwise, M/L on all favorites and point spread on dogs. All results will be based on this principle. All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team, and who is the favorite on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines. I will try to update my post as often as I can throughout the day, if the lines change, but it is the individual bettor’s responsibility to get the appropriate line if it differs from my post. On occasion, we will have plays that go head-head. The system will grade ALL bets, regardless of opponents, how you wish to play these games is your choice.

**Kev the Brit** · 02-01-12, 07:01 PM

Originally posted by J.M. Disciple

I'm curious to how each strategy is working for JM so far. How much are labby players up? How much are 1-3-5 players up? How much are A, B, & C players up? How much are B&C (3units) players up? Thanks JMD

A pure JM follower would not have bet on Detroit as they were the worst road team during their recent failure. But, B/C players betting to win 3 units on Det would have lost 20.52 (@-182) and A-C players betting to win 1 unit would have lost 22.45 units. I think most of us here ignored the filter (I simply forgot to checK for it). Here are the results for JM up to 1/30:

Pure JM A-C Players:
38 wins @ 1 unit = 38 units
(23 A, 12 B, 3 C)
0 losses
total profit so far = 38 units

Non Filter JM A-C Players:
38 wins @ 1 unit = 38 units
1 loss @ 22.45 units
total profit so far = 15.55 units

Pure JM B-C Players:
15 wins @ 3 units = 48 units
(12 B, 3 C)
0 losses
total profit = 48 units

Non Filter JM B-C Players:
15 wins @ 3 units = 45 units
(12 B, 3 C)
1 loss @ 20.52 units
total profit so far = 24.48 units

Kev

**J.M. Disciple** · 02-01-12, 09:56 PM

Thanks Kev. Got my 2pts for the day. Gave me a little more then what I expected.

Det looks like it will cover the "D" if anyone made it

--JMD

**casdio** · 02-01-12, 10:02 PM

Pistons 96 - 99 Nets

A bet won