John Morrison 2011-12 NBA Thread

[dominate.]

JM January 28

V3 DETROIT +15.5 @ Philadelphia (A) LOSS

RESULTS PER VERSION

Version 1 A: 8-4 B: 2-2 C: 2-0

Version 2 A: 1-2 B: 2-0 C: 0-0

Version 3 A: 15-9 B: 5-2 C: 2-0

Totals A: 24-15 B: 9-4 C: 4-0

JM January 29

V3 CHICAGO +7.5 @ Miami (A)
V3 SAN ANTONIO +8 @ Dallas (B)

All official plays are posted with 3 points bought. ML will not be taken on favorites greater than -3.

Really like the new format. Thanks, thelimit!

[lennytia]

1364 haha

[Riceboi]

No, No, the B&C strategy does not apply to Chase 110. It applies only to the Morrison NBA system. Wallco has never suggested to us, officially, to do the same with Chase 110

Yeah I got the systems mixed up because they are both in this thread lol. Anyways I understand now.

[J.M. Disciple]

With out pestering Wallco; I am looking for advice or strategy going into the next couple of seasons of NBA and MLB. I am leaving out NHL because of the high juice of some systems and all the variance taken into NHL. At least that is my view on NHL systems. You all may do as you wish. I am looking for some statistical analysis on a few basic systems we all follow, so my fundamentals and discipline are at the highest standards going into future seasons when my bankroll is ready.

#1) JM NBA (v1, v2, &v3) I will be playing either 1-3-5 or 7/5 with the pending research of the 7/5.
A) what type of bankroll or unit size should be used for this?
B) How many units on average does each season profit?

#2) Wallco's Chase 110.
With the Knicks series around 80 units I am assuming I will need around 100 units of its own for this system.
A) How many units on average do the under dogs profit?
B) How many units on average do the favorites profit?
C) What is recommend bankroll for this system

*I think those are the two most valuable systems we have going for nba; please fill me in with others which net a high unit profit each year.

3) MLB Plu$$$
Wallco ran this system last year and all though it did not do too well last year i have faith in wallco and his back test. I am sure the average units for this system will continue.
A) what bankroll is needed?
B) How many units profit on average does this system earn?

4) JM MLB
bankroll needed
how many units on average?

Other Advice??
Please fill me in with proven MLB or NBA systems for the upcoming seasons. I do not want to follow too many systems at once because of the impact on your bankroll it has. I am looking over the next few years if my bankroll grows enough as many of you are to transition into sports betting professionally. I know this may take a few years, but I want to make sure I start at this from the right angle.

What bankroll do you all use when following all these systems?
What is your annual units earned?

My thinking behind these systems is that a unit size for JM NBA should be around 1% of your bankroll to start the season as your stagnant unit size. For chase 110 I am thinking 1% for the underdogs and .5% on the favorites, again to start the season as a set unit amount and grind it out. For the MLB season I never followed too closely to MLB so I do not know much about it.

Thank you all in advance for the advice or links provided. I am not asking to be spoon fed information but i do appreciate it. I do not mind doing my own research if you all can be nice enough to provide me with some of the links you probably have book marked.

Thanks
JMD

[dlunc3]

With out pestering Wallco; I am looking for advice or strategy going into the next couple of seasons of NBA and MLB. I am leaving out NHL because of the high juice of some systems and all the variance taken into NHL. At least that is my view on NHL systems. You all may do as you wish. I am looking for some statistical analysis on a few basic systems we all follow, so may fundamentals and discipline are at the highest standards going into future seasons when my bankroll is ready.

#1) JM NBA (v1, v2, &v3) I will be playing either 1-3-5 or 7/5 with the pending research of the 7/5.
A) what time of bankroll or unit size should be used for this?
B) How many units on average does each season profit?

#2) Wallco's Chase 110.
With the Knicks series around 80 units I am assuming I will need around 100 units of its own for this system.
A) How many units on average do the under dogs profit?
B) How many units on average do the favorites profit?
C) What is recommend bankroll for this system

*I think those are the two most valuable systems we have going for nba; please fill me in with others which net a high unit profit each year.

3) MLB Plu$$$
Wallco ran this system last year and all though it did not do too well last year i have faith in wallco and his back test. I am sure the average units for this system will continue.
A) what bankroll is needed?
B) How many units profit on average does this system earn?

4) JM MLB
bankroll needed
how many units on average?

Other Advice??
Please fill me in with proven MLB or NBA systems for the upcoming seasons. I do not want to follow too many systems at once because of the impact on your bankroll it has. I am looking over the next few years if my bankroll grows enough as many of you are to transition into sports betting professionally. I know this may take a few years, but I want to make sure I start at this from the right angle.

What bankroll do you all use when following all these systems?
What is your annual units earned?

My thinking behind these systems is that a unit size for JM NBA should be around 1% of your bankroll to start the season as your stagnant unit size. For chase 110 I am thinking 1% for the underdogs and .5% on the favorites, again to start the season as a set unit amount and grind it out. For the MLB season I never followed too closely to MLB so I do not know much about it.

Thank you all in advance for the advice or links provided. I am not asking to be spoon fed information but i do appreciate it. I do not mind doing some of my own research if you all can be nice enough to provide me with some of the links you probably have book marked.

Thanks
JMD

ill give you my quick thoughts bc i gotta run... i did multiple systems including JM and SBP and another similar system a few years back.... did each with for 1%. My roll was too small and got crushed. I would probably recommend maybe a max of 1.5% at risk total. So if you are doing MLB and using 3 systems, do .5% for each or so.. or if you are doing 4 systems, do .375% units. Making money is about bankroll management. Unless you can afford to lose your bankroll and reload, that would be my recommendation. My bankroll (probably stupid) is a good part of my savings. I view this as a better investment then investing in a safe stock or bank with interest. So I cant afford to lose it. If you can, sure up the risk, but if not... thats my recommendation based off experience of playing JM systems for 6.5 years now.

[Wallco99]

With out pestering Wallco; I am looking for advice or strategy going into the next couple of seasons of NBA and MLB. I am leaving out NHL because of the high juice of some systems and all the variance taken into NHL. At least that is my view on NHL systems. You all may do as you wish. I am looking for some statistical analysis on a few basic systems we all follow, so my fundamentals and discipline are at the highest standards going into future seasons when my bankroll is ready.

#1) JM NBA (v1, v2, &v3) I will be playing either 1-3-5 or 7/5 with the pending research of the 7/5.
A) what type of bankroll or unit size should be used for this?
B) How many units on average does each season profit?

#2) Wallco's Chase 110.
With the Knicks series around 80 units I am assuming I will need around 100 units of its own for this system.
A) How many units on average do the under dogs profit?
B) How many units on average do the favorites profit?
C) What is recommend bankroll for this system

*I think those are the two most valuable systems we have going for nba; please fill me in with others which net a high unit profit each year.

3) MLB Plu$$$
Wallco ran this system last year and all though it did not do too well last year i have faith in wallco and his back test. I am sure the average units for this system will continue.
A) what bankroll is needed?
B) How many units profit on average does this system earn?

4) JM MLB
bankroll needed
how many units on average?

Other Advice??
Please fill me in with proven MLB or NBA systems for the upcoming seasons. I do not want to follow too many systems at once because of the impact on your bankroll it has. I am looking over the next few years if my bankroll grows enough as many of you are to transition into sports betting professionally. I know this may take a few years, but I want to make sure I start at this from the right angle.

What bankroll do you all use when following all these systems?
What is your annual units earned?

My thinking behind these systems is that a unit size for JM NBA should be around 1% of your bankroll to start the season as your stagnant unit size. For chase 110 I am thinking 1% for the underdogs and .5% on the favorites, again to start the season as a set unit amount and grind it out. For the MLB season I never followed too closely to MLB so I do not know much about it.

Thank you all in advance for the advice or links provided. I am not asking to be spoon fed information but i do appreciate it. I do not mind doing my own research if you all can be nice enough to provide me with some of the links you probably have book marked.

Thanks
JMD

The exam for my pilot's license wasn't this many questions!

[1gamer]

CASH THE BULLS! Who would not take the Bulls (A) with +7.5?
CASH THE SPURS!

[Wallco99]

B bet.

[kdavis]

cash the bulls! Who would not take the bulls (a) with +7.5?
Cash the spurs!

whoohoo!!!!!

[COBRA31]

The two systems are completely separate and have no bearing on each other. You play the Wallco C bet, and (if you play the A bets) then you play the A bet for JM. Don't understand why there would be any confusion as the two sytems have nothing to do with each other.

I actually love Charlotte at the Lakers as a play, the past head to head covering record of the Bobcats is impossible to ignore, I'm gonna make a play on the Bobcats as my own 'personal' play. I very rarely place my own bets on the NBA but when there is a covering streak like Char against Lakers I ride it hard until it breaks!

I just saw that Charlotte has the worst road record in the NBA. They would therefore filter out as an A bet on JM V1 on the 31st.

Correct ?

[kdavis]

I just saw that Charlotte has the worst road record in the NBA. They would therefore filter out as an A bet on JM V1 on the 31st.

Correct ?

Filters? We don't have no stinkin filters.

[stevex]

Cash ANOTHER A bet!

Love it Kev...

[stevex]

The whole idea of the worst team filter, or really any filter for that matter is garbage. Any team can win on any given night...

[Wallco99]

Wallco NBA Chase 110
2011-12 System to date: 25-0 (fin. series)
System profit/loss: +25.00 units (fin. series)
Current open series: 1 (-3.41 units)

v1 Plays
(A) 19-7
(B) 2-5
(C) 2-2
(D) 2-0

V2 Plays
In production


Games for (1/30/12):
#24 Resumes (C) on 1/31/12
#27 San Antonio @ Memphis (M/L) (A) (8:05 pm EST)
#28 Orlando (+7½) @ Philadelphia (A) (7:05 pm EST)


We will ALWAYS play the M/L on favorites and the point spread (-110) on dogs. There is no point buying in this system, with one exception, if your team is the favorite, and buying down to a zero point spread is cheaper than playing the M/L, then by all means, buy the points, otherwise, M/L on all favorites and point spread on dogs. All results will be based on this principle. All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team, and who is the favorite on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines. I will try to update my post as often as I can throughout the day, if the lines change, but it is the individual bettor’s responsibility to get the appropriate line if it differs from my post. On occasion, we will have plays that go head-head. The system will grade ALL bets, regardless of opponents, how you wish to play these games is your choice.

[J.M. Disciple]

7/5 research road system
Atantic 06/present

NJ
B: 9-8
C: 2-6

Boston
B: 5-5
C: 3-2

NYK
B 7-4
C 3-1

PHi
B 4-5
C 5-0

Tor
B: 9-7
C: 3-4

Totals:
B: 34-29
C: 16-13

Formula
B= 7.7u to win 7
C= 13.97 to win 12.7
Total Risk 21.67u

B = 34 wins (238u) - (223.3u) Profit ( 14.7u)
C= 16 wins (203.2u) - (181.61) Profit ( 21.59u)

Atantic division profit: 36.29 units since 2006 - 2007 season using 7/5 method.

I have yet to test other divisions, but if other divisions are similar then net profit per season on average using 7/5 would be 43units. I got this number from taking the 36.29 units and dividing it by 5 seasons then multiplying that number by 6 divisions

Maybe the 1-3-5 or Regular JM is better then 7/5? Back testing still in progress. Hopefully have more time later this week to test. This is just a simple tedious back test using covers.com
I based B and C off the team losing ATS on their first road game. I did not take buying 3 points into account. If A bet was a Push ATS then A lost on 2nd road game I would count the next one as the B bet. Basically Pushes dont even exist.

--JMD

[knugen]

With out pestering Wallco; I am looking for advice or strategy going into the next couple of seasons of NBA and MLB. I am leaving out NHL because of the high juice of some systems and all the variance taken into NHL. At least that is my view on NHL systems. You all may do as you wish. I am looking for some statistical analysis on a few basic systems we all follow, so my fundamentals and discipline are at the highest standards going into future seasons when my bankroll is ready.

#1) JM NBA (v1, v2, &v3) I will be playing either 1-3-5 or 7/5 with the pending research of the 7/5.
A) what type of bankroll or unit size should be used for this?
B) How many units on average does each season profit?

#2) Wallco's Chase 110.
With the Knicks series around 80 units I am assuming I will need around 100 units of its own for this system.
A) How many units on average do the under dogs profit?
B) How many units on average do the favorites profit?
C) What is recommend bankroll for this system

*I think those are the two most valuable systems we have going for nba; please fill me in with others which net a high unit profit each year.

3) MLB Plu$$$
Wallco ran this system last year and all though it did not do too well last year i have faith in wallco and his back test. I am sure the average units for this system will continue.
A) what bankroll is needed?
B) How many units profit on average does this system earn?

4) JM MLB
bankroll needed
how many units on average?

Other Advice??
Please fill me in with proven MLB or NBA systems for the upcoming seasons. I do not want to follow too many systems at once because of the impact on your bankroll it has. I am looking over the next few years if my bankroll grows enough as many of you are to transition into sports betting professionally. I know this may take a few years, but I want to make sure I start at this from the right angle.

What bankroll do you all use when following all these systems?
What is your annual units earned?

My thinking behind these systems is that a unit size for JM NBA should be around 1% of your bankroll to start the season as your stagnant unit size. For chase 110 I am thinking 1% for the underdogs and .5% on the favorites, again to start the season as a set unit amount and grind it out. For the MLB season I never followed too closely to MLB so I do not know much about it.

Thank you all in advance for the advice or links provided. I am not asking to be spoon fed information but i do appreciate it. I do not mind doing my own research if you all can be nice enough to provide me with some of the links you probably have book marked.

Thanks
JMD

Hi JMD, this is a system that you should really try in MLB , fade a team that got shoutout for a 6 game chase, they went 309-2 last season, with only 7 games went to a 6 game

http://forum.sbrforum.com/baseball-betting/1024515-shut-out-system-p32.html

[peeiempee]

Hi JMD, this is a system that you should really try in MLB , fade a team that got shoutout for a 6 game chase, they went 309-2 last season, with only 7 games went to a 6 game http://forum.sbrforum.com/baseball-b...ystem-p32.html

What would the record be if you 4 game chased it after 3? What were the 2 losses to? 6 game whats that like 90 units?

[peeiempee]

To Limit: Just a quick question so are you playing 7/5 on B and C of all morrison nba plays? Buying 3 pts?

[knugen]

actually i found it with only a month or something left of the season, but i played it from game A and it worked well, im using labby lines with all my systems, sometimes the lines went pretty long but it worked well , i will definitely play it next season also..!

[Wallco99]

To Limit: Just a quick question so are you playing 7/5 on B and C of all morrison nba plays? Buying 3 pts?

You really need to stay current.

[cwbuff44]

Hi all. I am new here. And new to betting in general. Hope I don't get crushed for the newbie question, but can someone please point me in the direction of how this system operates?? I just want to know how to get started and follow its rules. I was trying to back-read but there are 40 pages worth of posts. Is there a post someone can point me to with some instructions? Or would someone be willing to take the time to help out a new guy by replying to this or sending me a message? Everyone seems great here so far by the way. Glad I found this place!

[dratk00l]

...but can someone please point me in the direction of how this system operates??...

CW,
I guess it depends on which system you are referring to. There are two that are updated and widely discussed in here. JM's system and WallCo's Chase system.

-D

[Maxi_EV]

actually i found it with only a month or something left of the season, but i played it from game A and it worked well, im using labby lines with all my systems, sometimes the lines went pretty long but it worked well , i will definitely play it next season also..!

Any serious backtest performed?

[thelimit0310]

Any serious backtest performed?

I play shut out too, its a great MLB system but you have to labby or you'll get crushed. Here are some past results: ~250 means around 250 games, I don't have the exact number but it will most likely always be above 250 games a season. The losses are correct.

2010
System 1: ~250-4
System 2: ~250-4

2009
System 1: ~250-2
System 2: ~250-2

2008
System 1: ~250-3
System 2: ~250-5

[thelimit0310]

7/5 research road system
Atantic 06/present

NJ
B: 9-8
C: 2-6

Boston
B: 5-5
C: 3-2

NYK
B 7-4
C 3-1

PHi
B 4-5
C 5-0

Tor
B: 9-7
C: 3-4

Totals:
B: 34-29
C: 16-13

Formula
B= 7.7u to win 7
C= 13.97 to win 12.7
Total Risk 21.67u

B = 34 wins (238u) - (223.3u) Profit ( 14.7u)
C= 16 wins (203.2u) - (181.61) Profit ( 21.59u)

Atantic division profit: 36.29 units since 2006 - 2007 season using 7/5 method.

I have yet to test other divisions, but if other divisions are similar then net profit per season on average using 7/5 would be 43units. I got this number from taking the 36.29 units and dividing it by 5 seasons then multiplying that number by 6 divisions

Maybe the 1-3-5 or Regular JM is better then 7/5? Back testing still in progress. Hopefully have more time later this week to test. This is just a simple tedious back test using covers.com
I based B and C off the team losing ATS on their first road game. I did not take buying 3 points into account. If A bet was a Push ATS then A lost on 2nd road game I would count the next one as the B bet. Basically Pushes dont even exist.

--JMD

The official unit count for 7/5 last year is +186.1 units. This includes a filter that does not play unofficial B bets or series in October.

Testing still in progress.

[cwbuff44]

Dratk,

Two systems huh? Well that shows my ignorance even further lol! But that might explain why I was having trouble getting a grasp on it. I guess I'd actually like to learn about both systems and which has been the "most successful" in people's opinions. Would just be cool to get started today using one if possible.

I appreciate you taking the time to respond.

[thelimit0310]

JM January 29

V3 CHICAGO +7.5 @ Miami (A) WIN
V3 SAN ANTONIO +8 @ Dallas (B) WIN

RESULTS PER VERSION

Version 1
A: 8-4
B: 2-2
C: 2-0

Version 2
A: 1-2
B: 2-0
C: 0-0

Version 3
A: 16-9
B: 6-2
C: 2-0

Totals
A: 25-15
B: 10-4
C: 4-0

JM January 30

V3 DETROIT +10 @ Milwaukee (B)

All official plays are posted with 3 points bought. ML will not be taken on favorites greater than -3.

[shinnman]

what books do you use to buy 3 pts, legends only offers one point unless im doin it wrong

[GGPLAYER]

The whole idea of the worst team filter, or really any filter for that matter is garbage. Any team can win on any given night...

SA almost did it last night with all their stars on the bench for the 4th Q and OT. They basically saved the cover and cashed the bet for everyone.

[Maxi_EV]

I play shut out too, its a great MLB system but you have to labby or you'll get crushed. Here are some past results: ~250 means around 250 games, I don't have the exact number but it will most likely always be above 250 games a season. The losses are correct.

2010
System 1: ~250-4
System 2: ~250-4

2009
System 1: ~250-2
System 2: ~250-2

2008
System 1: ~250-3
System 2: ~250-5

@ -110, 6 games chase costs 85 units!
What's the average odds ?

[Nino7]

ull play it using labouchere

[knugen]

@ -110, 6 games chase costs 85 units!
What's the average odds ?

Thats why u doing a labby in this system, then u never lose any units

[Nino7]

CASH THE BULLS! Who would not take the Bulls (A) with +7.5? CASH THE SPURS!

me i pushed

[Wallco99]

Hi all. I am new here. And new to betting in general. Hope I don't get crushed for the newbie question, but can someone please point me in the direction of how this system operates?? I just want to know how to get started and follow its rules. I was trying to back-read but there are 40 pages worth of posts. Is there a post someone can point me to with some instructions? Or would someone be willing to take the time to help out a new guy by replying to this or sending me a message? Everyone seems great here so far by the way. Glad I found this place!

I suggest you read the whole thread anyway, there are no cliff's notes for this sh*t. I guarantee that 98% of your future questions will be answered by reading this thread, and if you don't read it and ask even a minor question about 1-3-5 or 7/5, I will hire a nerd and find a way to send you an irreversible virus. Just kidding, but I beg you not to ask!!!!!!!

[Wallco99]

7/5 research road system
Atantic 06/present

NJ
B: 9-8
C: 2-6

Boston
B: 5-5
C: 3-2

NYK
B 7-4
C 3-1

PHi
B 4-5
C 5-0

Tor
B: 9-7
C: 3-4

Totals:
B: 34-29
C: 16-13

Formula
B= 7.7u to win 7
C= 13.97 to win 12.7
Total Risk 21.67u

B = 34 wins (238u) - (223.3u) Profit ( 14.7u)
C= 16 wins (203.2u) - (181.61) Profit ( 21.59u)

Atantic division profit: 36.29 units since 2006 - 2007 season using 7/5 method.

I have yet to test other divisions, but if other divisions are similar then net profit per season on average using 7/5 would be 43units. I got this number from taking the 36.29 units and dividing it by 5 seasons then multiplying that number by 6 divisions

Maybe the 1-3-5 or Regular JM is better then 7/5? Back testing still in progress. Hopefully have more time later this week to test. This is just a simple tedious back test using covers.com
I based B and C off the team losing ATS on their first road game. I did not take buying 3 points into account. If A bet was a Push ATS then A lost on 2nd road game I would count the next one as the B bet. Basically Pushes dont even exist.

--JMD

Don't worry, we've got it under control.