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absolutkaosSBR High Roller
- 12-29-11
- 213
#5006Comment -
absolutkaosSBR High Roller
- 12-29-11
- 213
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Love The ActionSBR Posting Legend
- 11-08-10
- 10952
#5008Comment -
Love The ActionSBR Posting Legend
- 11-08-10
- 10952
#5009Nice....Nuggz/Thunder steamed all the way to 211 where I also have that game set and the Bucks/Nets game is almost to the 195.5 closing range that I predicted. Let's hope that line movement continues in our favor for the rest of the day and closes at or near the current numbers.Comment -
No coincidencesSBR Aristocracy
- 01-18-10
- 76300
#5010Really liking the Suns tonight. Any lean there LTA?Comment -
TrivialSBR MVP
- 11-22-09
- 1328
#5013
The difference (spread) most often ends up as 2, 7, etc as the difference in the score between the two teams. Similar to 3 and 7, 10, etc in football.
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absolutkaosSBR High Roller
- 12-29-11
- 213
#5014Here's what I was looking for:
NBA Key Numbers
by Jeremy Martin
There are certain key numbers in professional sports that can cause trouble for bookmakers. Key numbers are most prevalent in the NFL, where a high percentage of games land on the numbers three and seven. Most people familiar with sports betting recognize these as important numbers concerning NFL wagering. However, many bettors are not aware that there are certain key numbers in the NBA that bookies must contend with on a nightly basis. Two and seven are considered the main key numbers in professional basketball.
Bookies have, for the most part, ignored NBA key numbers for years. But recently so many games have fallen on or close to these numbers that bookmakers have begun to take notice. The NBA has some of the biggest line moves of any of the major betting sports, so bookies must be extra careful when they set their numbers. If they move the number too much or make a bad judgment call it could cause them to get 'middled' or 'sided,' which is basically a bookie's worst nightmare (paying out on both sides or paying out on one side and returning money to all other customers).
Two is probably the most important of all key numbers in the NBA. When a point spread is set on or close to two, there is a high probability that the game will be close. Close games in the NBA are usually decided on the last basket and the winning team normally wins by between one and three points. Bookies must use caution when moving the number in situations like these.
"We really don't like to bounce back and forth from two to three," said Bob Scucci, Race & Sportsbook manager For The Stardust in Las Vegas. "Two seems to be as solid of a number as you can get in the NBA. When (the game is) as close to a 'pick'em as two is, you are anticipating a very competitive game that could go right down to the wire. That two points and three points is a big difference. You are playing for that last shot that puts it on a two. We try not to move to frequently between 1 ½ and 2 ½."
"In basketball ones and twos are as close to key numbers as you can get," added Doug Beil, race and sportsbook manager for Terrible's Hotel/Casino in Las Vegas. "If it is a close game and the spread is two points or less, more frequently than just random chance the games are close and they tend to fall. This goes for college (basketball) as well.
"Lets say one team starts out as a one-point favorite and then the other team goes off as a one-point favorite - which happens a lot in basketball. Or if you start off as a one-point favorite and then you close at two or 2 ½ -- that also happens a lot. So if it is a close game and it happens to fall on one or two, that becomes a key number that can zap you. That's the reality."
Sevens are so important because that is the point differential (three possessions) in the NBA when the trailing team will, in theory, stop fouling. Many NBA bettors have frustratingly torn up a losing ticket after wagering on a 6 1/2 -point dog in a close game only to see their team lose by seven in the final seconds because of a barrage of late-game fouls. Fouls and the resulting shots from the charity stripe are a big part of the game and must be factored into each and every NBA wager. According to Scucci, more and more games are falling on this key number.
"I have seen in recent years a lot more games falling on seven than any other number, and that's regardless of the point spread," he said. "I mean I have seen 'pick'em games that fall seven and 10-point spreads that fall on seven. That is starting to become one of those numbers to really start watching for as far as being a key number.
"It has everything to do with fouls. Two becomes three, becomes four, becomes seven. You know, that whole thing. It's a two-point game in the last minute (of regulation). It is back and forth, anyone's game and suddenly it turns into seven."
Beil believes that fouling is up in the NBA this year, especially at the end of games. He doesn't necessarily buy into the notion that teams will stop fouling when they are down by seven.
"I think it depends on how much time there is left," he said. "In the NBA generally speaking teams will foul if they are within 10 or 12 points. And then if they are playing teams with bad foul shooters like a Ben Wallace or Shaquille O'Neal, they will zero in and foul those guys even more. "It seems like (teams will) foul more often and earlier and later in games than years past. Maybe it has to do with how bad the foul shooters are. I've seen teams down by seven or eight with 15 seconds left fouling. It almost seems like there is no end to it unless the game is really out of reach."Comment -
BrewCrew1SBR Rookie
- 04-24-11
- 27
#5015Dallas dropped back to -2 on Sportsbook.Comment -
fitguy67SBR Hall of Famer
- 03-13-11
- 5082
#5017that's an investment-grade 10%-ish yield...15.75 units netted vs. 154 (approx.) units risked (140games@1.10)...5% yield is like hitting 0.300 in baseballComment -
BigBurkSBR MVP
- 02-25-11
- 3785
#5018Damn the Bucks total already moved to 195.5 whilst the Thunder total hit the 210.5. You have gotten some fine number before the steam hit.Comment -
06Ech0SBR High Roller
- 11-27-11
- 161
#5019Rolling with Linsanity today!Comment -
Love The ActionSBR Posting Legend
- 11-08-10
- 10952
#5020NBA 2011-2012 Regular Season 2/19/2012
Play #1
Bucks/Nets over (194) 1x (Locked)
I might be jumping on this one a little early as I would not be surprised to see this get down to 193.5, but I would be surprised to see this go to 193 and I would rather protect myself at the key number of 194 than risk this one going back up to 194.5 or higher. We have two offenses that are improving with respect to efficiency, but whose defenses are not good. With a game involving Brandon Jennings and Deron Williams, I expect a battle of the point-guards to result in a high-scoring game. I don't think either team will be very interested in playing defense today and both teams will be looking to pad their offensive stats in a fun offensive-oriented game. The Nets are on a b2b and 4 in 5, while the Bucks are on one day of rest and both situations have favored the over for each team this year. Last season, this matchup was set in the low 180's so this is over a 10 point adjustment which tells me the books expect a higher scoring game today. The refs are rather neutral with Phillips, Dalen and Tiven although they do favor the under this year which is not indicative of their lifetime numbers. Nevertheless, all three average over 40 fouls per game in games they ref so that is what we should expect today. The Nets are actually a top 10 team in FT/FGA so they will draw some fouls and both teams are bottom 1/3 of the league in defensive FT/FGA meaning both teams can hack it up at times. I have this game set at 197 and I expect a closing number at or around 195.5. Based on the foregoing I am rolling with the over for 1x. Good luck.
Play #2
Nuggets/Thunder over (208) 1x (Locked)
Last year, I was cashing unders in this matchup to some nice profit toward the end of the season. However, in this game, I think the over is the play despite the injuries to Nene and Gallinari. This game will be about about fast pace and offense. I was hoping Mozgov was out so that we could depend on a small Denver lineup and ultra-fast pace from Lawson, but despite the big guy playing I still think we see a lightning fast pace out of Lawson and Westbrook who is probable and publicly stated that he is playing. Both teams are top 5 in PACE, possessions per game and OEFF, while they remain middle-of-the-road defensively. Both teams like to draw fouls ranked top 3 in FT/FGA and the refs are conducive to the over with Malloy, Kirkland and Williams. I'm not sure why this one dropped from 210 upon opening, but I'm jumping on the value now at 208. I have this game set at 211 giving us 3 points of variance between my number and the books and I think the fast pace will make all the difference. Based on the foregoing, I am rolling with the over for 1x. Good luck.
Jazz (+7)(-120) 1x (Locked)
I'm going to buy some insurance here on the key number of 7 (for all those reading the article above). If it wasn't for Utah's road record, this would be an easy play. I just think 7 points is too much when these teams are such an even matchup. I have this game set at Utah +4.5 and by buying the hook we give ourselves 2.5 points of value when compared to the 7 we are playing. Pinny is at +6 and juicing the Jazz at -107 but Legends is hanging +6.5. I would buy the hook there if you are so inclined. I know others don't like this strategy, but I maintain that it can be the right move under certain circumstances. I also maintain that such circumstances exist in this game. Utah dominates Houston statistically in both points in the paint and fast-break points/fast-break point efficiency where Utah ranks top 7 in both. Defensively, both teams matchup evenly where they rank top 5 in perimeter three point defense. However, Utah does not depend on the three pointers like Houston does so their proficiency in that area is less harmful to Utah. However, Houston is very dependent on the three and Utah's ability to defend that shot should lead to the cover tonight. I think this should be a close game throughout and I have Utah set at +4.5. If it wasn't for Utah's previous struggles on the road, this game would be set closer. Utah has had success against Houston in Houston with some of these players and that experience should help tonight. Based on the foregoing, I am rolling with the Jazz for 1x. Good luck.Comment -
JM92SBR MVP
- 01-27-12
- 1140
#5021I was thinking about adding the UTAH ML to the one of the Pistons. My first thought was actually to take Denver against my Thunder but then they said Nene wasnt playing and Westbrook was so I changed my mind and tailed you on the over. I will tail you on this one and sprinkle a little something something on the ML.Comment -
NikigreatSBR Sharp
- 01-23-12
- 424
#5022I would like to go with the under in Orlando - Miami, LTA can you please tell me where you have this match set at?Comment -
ultrasouthSBR MVP
- 12-23-10
- 1175
#5023BOL in all your plays today LTAComment -
apurvaasSBR Wise Guy
- 01-09-12
- 586
#5024Play #3
Jazz (+7)(-120) 1x (Locked)
I'm going to buy some insurance here on the key number of 7 (for all those reading the article above). If it wasn't for Utah's road record, this would be an easy play. I just think 7 points is too much when these teams are such an even matchup. I have this game set at Utah +4.5 and by buying the hook we give ourselves 2.5 points of value when compared to the 7 we are playing. Pinny is at +6 and juicing the Jazz at -107 but Legends is hanging +6.5. I would buy the hook there if you are so inclined. I know others don't like this strategy, but I maintain that it can be the right move under certain circumstances. I also maintain that such circumstances exist in this game. Utah dominates Houston statistically in both points in the paint and fast-break points/fast-break point efficiency where Utah ranks top 7 in both. Defensively, both teams matchup evenly where they rank top 5 in perimeter three point defense. However, Utah does not depend on the three pointers like Houston does so their proficiency in that area is less harmful to Utah. However, Houston is very dependent on the three and Utah's ability to defend that shot should lead to the cover tonight. I think this should be a close game throughout and I have Utah set at +4.5. If it wasn't for Utah's previous struggles on the road, this game would be set closer. Utah has had success against Houston in Houston with some of these players and that experience should help tonight. Based on the foregoing, I am rolling with the Jazz for 1x. Good luck.Comment -
GoggsViggsSBR MVP
- 06-05-10
- 1884
#5026Love the Jazz play bro. I'm on them tooComment -
iMpegaSBR High Roller
- 04-26-10
- 189
#5027[quote=However, I never bet over my head or anything that I cannot afford to lose. My units constantly remain in proportion to my overall BR. My unit scale remains between 1x-5x, but plays over 1x are very rare and have to meet certain criteria. [/quote]
Did you change that from last season, because you had some 15 units plays?Comment -
dmiteanSBR Sharp
- 03-30-11
- 364
#5028Nets are in second leg of B2B2B that is known and as Under spot. Don't you worry about it or is it not part of your capping?Comment -
mikea33SBR MVP
- 11-14-11
- 2149
#5030apurvaas i am on the opposite of all 4 lolComment -
chief42SBR Sharp
- 01-06-10
- 315
#5031Is anyone else planning on playing these games at 195.5 and 210.5 and plus 6? I personally am hesitant to do so and would like to hear anyone else's opinion regarding these numbers. Best of luck to everyone tonight!Comment -
JM92SBR MVP
- 01-27-12
- 1140
#5032I played at + 6 the Jazz but out of option, could've bought the points and gotten - 7 also. Just thought + 6 @ - 105 was better value.Comment -
THSBR Rookie
- 02-07-12
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YouHave2outsSBR MVP
- 07-02-11
- 4448
#5034
the standard response is learn to cap a game or to not tail blindly if you aren't sure about a play, and i completely agree. so that would mean don't make bets on these, but i just tail LTA blindly in the NBA regardless. i watched him win a lot of picks that i didn't pull the trigger on before i got wise with it.
i think there are 2 games LTA has hit in this thread that he would have lost if he hadn't caught the great line, as he is almost always beating closers. my point being, though,that you are still up a pretty good amount tailing LTA even if you got bad lines on his picks. anything can happen though obviously
thanks a lot for posting LTA, you've kept me close to even on a terrible stretch of my own picks.
gl to everyone who is tailingComment -
mikea33SBR MVP
- 11-14-11
- 2149
#5035I played 195.5, +6, and 210.
if i if i lose 3 bets by .5 point or soComment -
Atlfan12SBR High Roller
- 01-25-12
- 205
#5036mikea I did the same thing, but hopefully they all hit. ObviouslyComment -
dlunc3SBR Hall of Famer
- 10-31-09
- 9129
#5037This is probably terrible advice.... but a lot of times if I dont get a number I want, I will buy 2/3 points and then parlay it with a heavy -1100 ml... for example, tonight I parlayed indy ml and bought 2 points to get the okc total where i wanted it. Definitely some danger in doing this so i dont recommend it to everyone... but just my two centsComment -
Atlfan12SBR High Roller
- 01-25-12
- 205
#5038This Milwaukee game is not looking to hotComment -
Les_NutsSBR Wise Guy
- 02-01-12
- 931
#5039This is probably terrible advice.... but a lot of times if I dont get a number I want, I will buy 2/3 points and then parlay it with a heavy -1100 ml... for example, tonight I parlayed indy ml and bought 2 points to get the okc total where i wanted it. Definitely some danger in doing this so i dont recommend it to everyone... but just my two centsComment
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