possible NHL system

**G's pks** · 10-21-09, 11:03 AM

First time I stopped in since before the season started...once again a thread with great possibility being ruined by a couple smucks adding, guessing and listing other systems! GL to those following the proper system...

As far as not listing the plays...not sure this thread has the power to move lines...unless you guys are big time... The only way to share and have this thread work is to have one person post the picks and one person only in a bolded different color than the rest that are just guessing... GL guys... G.

**MacAttack13** · 10-21-09, 12:10 PM

Guys,
Please dont cross post JM stuff on this post. Let's stick to the McBain system here.
It gets really confusing with all the different teams and systems.
Per McBain's system for 10/21 bet Buffalo [A], Dallas [A] & Carolina [b]. Pls Correct me if Im wrong.
GL to all!

I have list plays below I believe for McBain as I believe he was the one that posted the spreadsheet I have:
CAR "B"
BUF "A"
DAL "A"
CHI "B"

Please let me know if there is anything different

**jonnymega** · 10-21-09, 12:26 PM

I am hopping on board with today's plays!
Great work, Mcbain and props to floridagolfer for the awesome spreadsheet!

GL!

**friskyfrog** · 10-21-09, 01:04 PM

MacAttack13, not sure if Chicago [B] is a play unless you're chasing the home team stand. If yes, I dont think that would qualify under McBain's system (taking exception to the 'not playing first or last series rule' obviously)
The spreadsheet shows Chicago's first away series starting November 19.

**Regul8er** · 10-21-09, 01:15 PM

If your following mcbains system.......the only play tonight is Dallas [A]. Anything else doesn't belong in this thread. Thanks

**mcbain** · 10-21-09, 01:20 PM

Chicago is not a play! They are playing at home. My system detailed in post 1 is only for teams playing 3-game road trips.

G's picks, you are right, but I will not be listing all the plays in a nice, bold, different colour for everyone. If they cannot figure it out from the spreadsheet, well, perhaps they shouldn't be sports betting.

Now that JM stole the system and marketed it to others, there is power to move not lines but prices with so many jumping on the same road teams at +1.5 the prices can be affected and can be low.

**Regul8er** · 10-21-09, 01:22 PM

McBain.......is there anyway of changing the name of the thread to say "McBain's NHL System". I think this will keep a lot of Morrison followers out of here.

**mcbain** · 10-21-09, 01:31 PM

I can't find a way short of starting a new thread and then we would lose the good stuff that is contained here around the useless posts.

Just keep muddling through I guess until Cheme82 starts Nov. 1 and he will list the system bets and his money management of them in his own inimitable style and then we can refer people there.

For those that started Day 1 of the season, mcbain system is 15-0.

**JT The Chaser** · 10-21-09, 03:43 PM

Hello. This need to be more organised guys. I am LOVING the systems. I plan on following Mcbains chem's and Morrisons systems But I need to know waht your plays are. are they just said every day?

**MacAttack13** · 10-21-09, 04:10 PM

MacAttack13, not sure if Chicago [b] is a play unless you're chasing the home team stand. If yes, I dont think that would qualify under McBain's system (taking exception to the 'not playing first or last series rule' obviously)
The spreadsheet shows Chicago's first away series starting November 19.

OH OK I get it so I should have waited for CHI to play one series before betting them. OH well I have been playing ALL the teams in the spreadsheet and have not lost and on top of that only have had 2 "C" bets (which won) and I have 2 bets pending. Those 2 pending plays will be "B" wagers. Those aside the spreadsheet is 38 - 0!!! This is out of 173 total possible plays for that spreadsheet.

**mcbain** · 10-21-09, 04:40 PM

REPOST OF mcbain system RULES

MCBAIN NHL SYSTEM RULES:
(the 1st post of this thread tells you everything you need to know)

It is very simple. We bet NHL road teams when they go on road trips of at least 3 games. When the team is the favorite, bet moneyline. When the team is the underdog, bet puckline +1.5.

Make A bet, if it loses bet B so you still profit, if it loses bet C so you still profit on the entire series.

Using these filters should work for 09-10:
1. don't play first series of season or last for any team (optional depending on your risk tolerance)
2. don't play second series of 3 on any road trip
3. play +1.5 whenever available
4. eliminate teams with losing road records once at least 25 games have been played. Do not play those teams' road series. (optional)

Any other system, is not my system, it belongs in another thread.

**h00dini** · 10-21-09, 04:45 PM

do you have a spreadsheet of all the games?

**MacAttack13** · 10-21-09, 06:59 PM

I say Just let McBain Just be able to POST the plays and ONLY his plays and start a new thread where we can talk about others lie JM or someone else. This way we can just quickly check for his plays and not have to go through all the FLUFF!! I do not want to mess people up by posting plays from possible other systems.

Sorry for the mishap

**palmer2712** · 10-21-09, 07:42 PM

mcbain systems is the JM hockey system from V1, but just claiming that it is his. Well that is what it sounds like.. Good luck all

**mcbain** · 10-21-09, 08:09 PM

Palmer: not that it really matters, but you should probably get your facts straight. Read post #1. It was writted by me in March 2009. JM never had an NHL system ever before. Now all of a sudden this year he has one. Now tell me: who stole whose system?

I did apply the basic principles of the "JM" NBA system by looking into betting on road teams in a 3-game series bet, but I was the one that researched and applied to hockey and that NBA system has been around for years.

Hoodini, look around, you might find post #32 for yourself where the spreadsheet is located.

Good night now.

**palmer2712** · 10-21-09, 10:54 PM

Sounds good. I will take your word for it, but last yr, there was a JM verison and now there is a V2. All good, I am playing both, and thinking about doing the home stand one as well, but I dont know, just watching that one now.

**mcbain** · 10-21-09, 11:15 PM

The very first email touting a JM NHL system ever came in the summer of 09. He at first simply used my rules, then changed it so that the team had to play at least one team from the other conference to play the series and marketed even harder. That is your 'V2'.

Again, doesn't matter, who cares, go Dallas. 3-2 right now in the 3rd.

**palmer2712** · 10-22-09, 12:43 AM

sounds good. Buffalo, dallas paid, carolina to C

**betyuda** · 10-22-09, 01:24 AM

What about columbia bet b right?

**Regul8er** · 10-22-09, 07:47 AM

betyuda......yes the only play for the day according to the "McBain System" is Columbus "B"

Thanks Dallas for finally winning us an "A" bet last night.

**nynysports** · 10-22-09, 09:28 AM

Csn someone help me.New to the thread and i red thru everything, but a lil confused on the A B C bets. are the bet a diff $$$ amounts. for example is A=150$ B 100$ and C 50$? can someone pls help.Thanks in advance.

**Carson05** · 10-22-09, 09:58 AM

A: bet X amount to win 1 unit. (ex: $6 to win $2)

B: bet Y amount to win X+1unit. ( ex: $12 to win $8)

C: Bet Z amount to win X + Y + 1 unit. (ex: $24 to win $20)

in this example, the unit is $2. if you lose the A, B, and C bets, you would lose 21 units

**nynysports** · 10-22-09, 09:59 AM

Originally posted by Regul8er

betyuda......yes the only play for the day according to the "McBain System" is Columbus "B"

Thanks Dallas for finally winning us an "A" bet last night.

DO you take the pts in this sytem?

**Carson05** · 10-22-09, 10:02 AM

if the team is Favored, then you always take the MoneyLine.

if the team is the Underdog, you always take the +1.5 Puckline.

**Regul8er** · 10-22-09, 10:02 AM

WOW.....Columbus puckline starts out at -265. I'm going to stick with the system, but goodness, seems a bit high against a good Edmonton squad, who typically plays good hockey at home.

**Carson05** · 10-22-09, 10:09 AM

holy christ, -265 at the greek...

**Regul8er** · 10-22-09, 10:12 AM

Is it possible the books have caught wind of this sytem, and are upping the prices to discourage this type of system betting?

I also noticed the line came out very, very late on this game!

**nynysports** · 10-22-09, 10:13 AM

thx carson

**threeg5** · 10-22-09, 10:25 AM

Originally posted by Regul8er

Is it possible the books have caught wind of this sytem, and are upping the prices to discourage this type of system betting?

I also noticed the line came out very, very late on this game!

I believe you are correct. I noticed that the first 2 weeks or so the lines were high but not too bad as in the upper 100's 180-200 then after that they went way up to about where they are now. So they have found a way to utilize this and other forums like it against themselves so to speak.
So what is the thinking process on using this against the books.
Didnt take long did it?

3g5

**Carson05** · 10-22-09, 10:25 AM

Originally posted by Regul8er

Is it possible the books have caught wind of this sytem, and are upping the prices to discourage this type of system betting?

I also noticed the line came out very, very late on this game!

i kind of doubt it... i mean, how many people are actually using this system?

kind of odd though...don't like all that juice.

**G's pks** · 10-22-09, 10:26 AM

Originally posted by mcbain

I can't find a way short of starting a new thread and then we would lose the good stuff that is contained here around the useless posts.

Just keep muddling through I guess until Cheme82 starts Nov. 1 and he will list the system bets and his money management of them in his own inimitable style and then we can refer people there.

For those that started Day 1 of the season, mcbain system is 15-0.

Mcbain there is a simple way to copy and paste the important posts I could do it if you gave me all the posts with their number... But I have a feeling people are just going to continue to mess up your thread even if you start again...damn shame but some do not understand winning and never will... If you decide to start a new thread and want me to...drop me the post numbers and I will copy/paste...

Continued gl.. I know some of these systems work because my baseball thread/system worked for the whole season GL G.

**threeg5** · 10-22-09, 10:39 AM

Originally posted by Carson05

i kind of doubt it... i mean, how many people are actually using this system?

kind of odd though...don't like all that juice.

Carson Take into account that there are 4-5 minimum reputable forums posting this information. thats just the top ones there are hundreds of them though.
Then take into account all the people that come in here read the plays and then do not post just play the plays. then the people that they may tell.
now take into account the number of people that utilize similar systems as in JM the xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxxx xxx (censored so im not laughed at

) bastard of a person and the clients that he has as well as the people they tell.

I am guessing that the number is easily in the 5 digits across the nation.
Also I am sure that certain books either own or partially own other books but, at a minimum talk to other books (Antigua ain't that big you know).

Put this together it doesnt sound unplausible as a thought or very close to the truth.

Just my 46¢ lol

3g5

**Carson05** · 10-22-09, 11:05 AM

i wonder how much stock the books put into the plausibility of these systems

**Regul8er** · 10-22-09, 08:59 PM

Carson...this game started at -255 (much too high in my opinion) and then jumped up to -280 a few hours before game time. I don't understand why there was so much movement on an insignificant game that was already overpriced.

**Regul8er** · 10-22-09, 11:04 PM

SORRY GUYS...I SHOULD HAVE STAYED THE **** AWAY FROM THIS THING.....I'M AS JINXED AS JINXED GETS!!!!! IF ANYONE WATCHED THIS GAME....TOTAL AND COMPLETE HORSESHIT! COLUMBUS UP 4-1 LATE IN THE SECOND, and **** UP AFTER **** AFTER **** UP AFTER **** UP!!!!!!! COLUMBUS TAKES AN EMBARASSING PENALTY WITH 1 MINUTE LEFT, AND PULL THE ****IN GOALIE ON A PENALTY KILL, AND EDMONTON SHOOTS ONE 150 FEET DOWN THE ****IN ICE, RIGHT INTO THE OPEN CAGE.......UNREAL......IM AS JINXED AS IT GETS, AND I'M SORRY I EVEN GOT INVOLVED IN THESE BULLSHIT SYSTEMS.............GOODLUCK REST OF THE WAY, HOPEFULLY YALL ARENT GONNA BE DOWN 30+ UNITS COME SATURDAY........UNREAL...IM IN COMPLETE DISMAY RIGHT NOW, NEVER FELT WORSE ABOUT A LOSS.