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  • jcygts6
    SBR MVP
    • 04-05-09
    • 3316

    #386
    that was one tough loss... a meaningless empty netter. WTF?
    DO WORK + KROW OD
    do work! do work! do work! do work!
    od krow! od krow! od krow! od krow!
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    • chilidog
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 04-05-09
      • 10305

      #387
      Originally posted by Regul8er
      SORRY GUYS...I SHOULD HAVE STAYED THE **** AWAY FROM THIS THING.....I'M AS JINXED AS JINXED GETS!!!!! IF ANYONE WATCHED THIS GAME....TOTAL AND COMPLETE HORSESHIT! COLUMBUS UP 4-1 LATE IN THE SECOND, and **** UP AFTER **** AFTER **** UP AFTER **** UP!!!!!!! COLUMBUS TAKES AN EMBARASSING PENALTY WITH 1 MINUTE LEFT, AND PULL THE ****IN GOALIE ON A PENALTY KILL, AND EDMONTON SHOOTS ONE 150 FEET DOWN THE ****IN ICE, RIGHT INTO THE OPEN CAGE.......UNREAL......IM AS JINXED AS IT GETS, AND I'M SORRY I EVEN GOT INVOLVED IN THESE BULLSHIT SYSTEMS.............GOODLUCK REST OF THE WAY, HOPEFULLY YALL ARENT GONNA BE DOWN 30+ UNITS COME SATURDAY........UNREAL...IM IN COMPLETE DISMAY RIGHT NOW, NEVER FELT WORSE ABOUT A LOSS.
      Relax, it was just the B bet. The C bet for Columbus is on Saturday. Use proper money management, and you'll be just fine.
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      • flyingillini
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 12-06-06
        • 41219

        #388
        System, ha, No MAMES!
        המוסד‎
        המוסד למודיעין ולתפקידים מיוחדים‎
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        • Vincepcion
          SBR Wise Guy
          • 02-07-09
          • 834

          #389
          lolololol one thing about the morrison threads are the guaranteed people who panic over losing an A or B bet
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          • Regul8er
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 11-06-07
            • 10666

            #390
            chilidog, after watching the complete breakdown of the Jackets.......I don't think there is anyway they can cover at Anaheim Sat night. I'm actually not even gonna go C bet...I'll get out before its too late.
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            • jcygts6
              SBR MVP
              • 04-05-09
              • 3316

              #391
              for C bet it is outrageous... basically you need to risk around 2k to win 100 back.
              DO WORK + KROW OD
              do work! do work! do work! do work!
              od krow! od krow! od krow! od krow!
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              • Regul8er
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 11-06-07
                • 10666

                #392
                YA....stay off people. Columbus plays pathetic defense and Anaheim is due for an offensive explosion. I would seriously advise to stay away from the C bet if you want to stay in the game. Sorry McBain, but I wouldnt chase this one.
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                • betyuda
                  SBR Sharp
                  • 07-21-09
                  • 280

                  #393
                  I think we all just need to relax as usual. You will have to make a C bet eventually. If its a loss, its a loss. However, I do feel that they will cover.
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                  • threeg5
                    SBR Sharp
                    • 07-18-09
                    • 488

                    #394
                    Originally posted by Carson05
                    i wonder how much stock the books put into the plausibility of these systems
                    they dont have to put any. all they have to do is look at the results that it has created. People have already dont their work for them. All they have to do is say hmmmm, I wonder. Then they have computer models I am sure gather data for years and years and then check it. This might take them about 1 hour and maybe cost them 500$ if that. Doesnt sound like that bad of a trade off.
                    They then set the price accordingly and then watch and see.
                    They can't cap the Pl like they do the points in the NBA and WNBA so they have to keep profit somewhere otherwise we can't make our money.

                    Just a thought

                    3g5
                    Do what you did to get it and don't stop just go and get it!!
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                    • jcygts6
                      SBR MVP
                      • 04-05-09
                      • 3316

                      #395
                      wow 2 C bets this week... unbelievable
                      DO WORK + KROW OD
                      do work! do work! do work! do work!
                      od krow! od krow! od krow! od krow!
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                      • Chi_archie
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 07-22-08
                        • 63167

                        #396
                        give it time
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                        • palmer2712
                          Restricted User
                          • 10-06-09
                          • 231

                          #397
                          Word, Give it time. Carolina for tomorrow is -300 WTF is that shit. May ML for little money and take loss on A and B.
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                          • palmer2712
                            Restricted User
                            • 10-06-09
                            • 231

                            #398
                            Originally posted by jcygts6
                            wow 2 C bets this week... unbelievable

                            I would have to agree, pussy and spreads. Love it.
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                            • palmer2712
                              Restricted User
                              • 10-06-09
                              • 231

                              #399
                              Anybody playing the 3 home stand system? How is that working and are you betting ML or PL each time, or whatever the home team has
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                              • Hulk32ster
                                SBR Sharp
                                • 09-02-09
                                • 316

                                #400
                                Originally posted by palmer2712
                                Anybody playing the 3 home stand system? How is that working and are you betting ML or PL each time, or whatever the home team has
                                Home stand system is working great as well! Undefeated so far with only one C bet so far.
                                2nd C bet is this Saturday, the 24th, with Chicago hopefully beats Nashville.....
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                                • egr99
                                  SBR Sharp
                                  • 07-26-09
                                  • 310

                                  #401
                                  Well, the CLB loss tonite was actually pretty horrible I must admit... It's a 3game chase... not a 2game chase... Play it properly or don't. A Loss will hurt, no doubt about it, but its part of the game.

                                  egr99
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                                  • Carson05
                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                    • 10-02-08
                                    • 506

                                    #402
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                                    • egr99
                                      SBR Sharp
                                      • 07-26-09
                                      • 310

                                      #403
                                      LOL @ Carson05... Yeah thats me right now, but look at the bright side... If thats what it takes to loose games, its not a bad sign long term. Winning 4-1 with +1.5 and loosing on 5goal comebacks with bullshit hail mary style clearing attempt that barely hit the net... Tough break... Got to deal with it and move on.

                                      egr99
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                                      • Shortstop
                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                        • 01-02-09
                                        • 27281

                                        #404
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                                        • Anders
                                          SBR Rookie
                                          • 10-13-09
                                          • 27

                                          #405
                                          Tuff loss but this will happen from time to time and if you get cold feets every time a B-bets loses you should really not play at all.

                                          And to palmer and the rest of you confusing people with other systems then mcbain:

                                          How hard can it be, get out of this thread and join the JM threads!!
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                                          • Regul8er
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 11-06-07
                                            • 10666

                                            #406
                                            Sorry guys about my outburst yesterday. Personally, I had a very rough day, and this was just icing on the cake. Good Luck the rest of the season guys, but I am going to step off board before I crush my bankroll. Sure this thing may turn out profitable, but I don't think I can stomach C bets. Heck, I could hardly stand sitting through a B bet. I'm going to strictly handicap, as it seems my leans that I haven't played have been pretty successful.

                                            GoodLuck guys, and thanks McBain for all the work. Last night made me realize I'm not strong enough to handle such risk.
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                                            • palmer2712
                                              Restricted User
                                              • 10-06-09
                                              • 231

                                              #407
                                              Well the -360 now for Carolina sucks, so I parlayed it with the Pitt Moneyline. Payout much better and Pitt should win their game
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                                              • Regul8er
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 11-06-07
                                                • 10666

                                                #408
                                                I'm tellin you guys, books have caught some kind of wind of this sytem, or variations of the basic principle of this system. No reason these pucklines should be jumping 40-60 cents each time. There is definately much more movement on the games being played in this system in the last few weeks.
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                                                • Hulk32ster
                                                  SBR Sharp
                                                  • 09-02-09
                                                  • 316

                                                  #409
                                                  Originally posted by palmer2712
                                                  Well the -360 now for Carolina sucks, so I parlayed it with the Pitt Moneyline. Payout much better and Pitt should win their game
                                                  I show as the odds being about even now at -110 and in some sites carolina being the favorite.
                                                  Does it matter at what line we go by? opening line? closing? If carolina is now favorite cant we just take them ML? or do we have to take them at +1.5 and -360 no matter what, because they have the +1.5 next to them?
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                                                  • Carson05
                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                    • 10-02-08
                                                    • 506

                                                    #410
                                                    Carolina wasn't a play according mcbain's system

                                                    COLUMBUS will be a C bet tomorrow for the mcbain system
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                                                    • Hulk32ster
                                                      SBR Sharp
                                                      • 09-02-09
                                                      • 316

                                                      #411
                                                      Then why would it be on the spreadsheet.
                                                      Isnt it 3 road games in a row? They lost at @NJ, @NYI, and now they play @colorado?
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                                                      • Kelloggs
                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                        • 06-14-08
                                                        • 958

                                                        #412
                                                        Even though CAR is not a play the low odds seems to be killing the system.

                                                        A chase on Columbus for a win of $10:
                                                        A-bet: -250 $25
                                                        B-bet: -285 $100
                                                        C-bet: -200 $270

                                                        Odds for C-bet is unkown at this point, but the picture is pretty clear.
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                                                        • Hulk32ster
                                                          SBR Sharp
                                                          • 09-02-09
                                                          • 316

                                                          #413
                                                          Originally posted by Carson05
                                                          Carolina wasn't a play according mcbain's system

                                                          COLUMBUS will be a C bet tomorrow for the mcbain system
                                                          I guess Carolina is not a play, because it is the 1st road series of the season right? Is that the reason?
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                                                          • durito
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 07-03-06
                                                            • 13173

                                                            #414
                                                            Keep up the good work guys.
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                                                            • Kelloggs
                                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                                              • 06-14-08
                                                              • 958

                                                              #415
                                                              Originally posted by Hulk32ster
                                                              I guess Carolina is not a play, because it is the 1st road series of the season right? Is that the reason?
                                                              Yep, rule #1 of McBain system:

                                                              1. don't play first series of season or last for any team (optional depending on your risk tolerance)
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                                                              • Panekkkk
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 03-12-09
                                                                • 2430

                                                                #416
                                                                Originally posted by Regul8er
                                                                YA....stay off people. Columbus plays pathetic defense and Anaheim is due for an offensive explosion. I would seriously advise to stay away from the C bet if you want to stay in the game. Sorry McBain, but I wouldnt chase this one.
                                                                Columbus plays pathetic defense? They are one of the best defensive teams in the league for a few years now. 3rd lowest GAA. A five-on-five goals for/against ratio of 1.55 and 9th in the league on the PK. Not saying to make the bet, but be sure to know your stats when betting.
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                                                                • suicidekings
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 03-23-09
                                                                  • 9962

                                                                  #417
                                                                  Originally posted by Carson05
                                                                  i wonder how much stock the books put into the plausibility of these systems
                                                                  I'm pretty sure the books love JM because:

                                                                  A) It's predictable. They know exactly what plays are on the schedule, and can identify when system plays are not good bets for other reasons, and rape you on the juice for them if they want. If a JM B game is a bad bet already due to other reasons, you're not going to get a favourable line.

                                                                  B) Inexperienced bettors are so afraid to be wrong (or are not devoted enough to handicapping) so they look for the easy solution. These people would rather be given a nice, easy list to follow than come to terms with the fact that handicapping is serious business that requires a lot of work to be successful. Every time a bettor makes a play without deciding on it himself, the books win. It's like showing your cards in poker halfway through the hand, and then still betting it.

                                                                  C) When JM is played properly, all season long, maybe it produces a profit (and I say that only because I don't want to argue with devotees), but what percentage of JM subscribers (official or unofficial) actually follow through with all the C bets? I feel like a lot of people get discouraged on losses like Columbus and balk at paying for the C bet. I would not be surprised if the typical result for an average JM bettor is a profit by the book.

                                                                  Any time you make a wager you can't justify, you lose in the long run.
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                                                                  • suicidekings
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 03-23-09
                                                                    • 9962

                                                                    #418
                                                                    Originally posted by suicidekings

                                                                    I'm pretty sure the books love JM because:

                                                                    A) It's predictable. They know exactly what plays are on the schedule, and can identify when system plays are not good bets for other reasons, and rape you on the juice for them if they want. If a JM B game is a bad bet already due to other reasons, you're not going to get a favourable line.

                                                                    B) Inexperienced bettors are so afraid to be wrong (or are not devoted enough to handicapping) so they look for the easy solution. These people would rather be given a nice, easy list to follow than come to terms with the fact that handicapping is serious business that requires a lot of work to be successful. Every time a bettor makes a play without deciding on it himself, the books win. It's like showing your cards in poker halfway through the hand, and then still betting it.

                                                                    C) When JM is played properly, all season long, maybe it produces a profit (and I say that only because I don't want to argue with devotees), but what percentage of JM subscribers (official or unofficial) actually follow through with all the C bets? I feel like a lot of people get discouraged on losses like Columbus and balk at paying for the C bet. I would not be surprised if the typical result for an average JM bettor is a profit by the book.

                                                                    Any time you make a wager you can't justify, you lose in the long run.
                                                                    Edit: In re-reading some more of this thread (12 pages and counting, dedicated to implementation of the system), there seems to be a lot of different opinions on exactly what is included in the rules of the system. I repeat, the books probably love JM.
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                                                                    • Regul8er
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 11-06-07
                                                                      • 10666

                                                                      #419
                                                                      Originally posted by Panekkkk
                                                                      Columbus plays pathetic defense? They are one of the best defensive teams in the league for a few years now. 3rd lowest GAA. A five-on-five goals for/against ratio of 1.55 and 9th in the league on the PK. Not saying to make the bet, but be sure to know your stats when betting.
                                                                      Hey panekkkk, a little bit early to be throwing stats out 7-8 games into the season. A couple shutouts, poor performances from the opponents can really skew numbers with such a small sample set.

                                                                      I've watched the last 2 games on Fox Sports Ohio because I've had a ventured interest. I can tell you from what I've seen in these 2 games is lazy, laxadasical sloppy defense. They have had a real problem getting to loose pucks, not playing a physical brand of hockey, and there goaltending has been awful. I don't care if there 9th in PK at this point in the season, last night they let the Oilers skilled guys roam around, cut through the creases and basically have their way.
                                                                      Sure Columbus came out flying, and created a ton of scoring chances and capaitalized on 4 of them. The only problem is when they got ahead 4-1, they shut it down and sat on their heals, letting the Oilers creep back in. In hockey (like other sports) you need to go for the kill when the opponent is vulnerable.

                                                                      So panekkkk, throw stats out the window at this point in the season big guy.
                                                                      If you run with Columbus in the C bet, good luck. I really do hope everyone wins, but I'm skeptical from what I witnessed Tuesday and Thursday.
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                                                                      • palmer2712
                                                                        Restricted User
                                                                        • 10-06-09
                                                                        • 231

                                                                        #420
                                                                        holy, fuc me in the goat ass. They covered the puck line and parlay hit, barely. What a day. Big C bet tomorrow. Big day all around manana. GOod luck all
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