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  • fosho14
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 01-25-12
    • 554

    #4866
    Oli will lose, but not worth risking the -190 line on jordan
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    • Wanna Bet On It?
      SBR MVP
      • 11-17-11
      • 1032

      #4867
      Originally posted by gabe
      Barnett over Cormier, right, V-Dogg?
      Gabe, I'm 97-99% confident that Barnett won't lose this weekend.

      Lock it up, brew!!!1!1!!3!1!!!pwn3d!!@1^$5!!!
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      • Wanna Bet On It?
        SBR MVP
        • 11-17-11
        • 1032

        #4868
        Originally posted by Vaughany
        Although this is pointless now, just watched the Thiago Alves/Hughes fight again and realized that he still got KO of the Night tht night even though he missed weight. And tht was the same night tht Wiman KO'd Tavares
        Still good to know. I was gonna fade Rampage KOTN @ -1000 after the missed weight fiasco but didn't feel confident that Dana would deny him the award if he pulled off the lone KO; he's not Frank Mir after all...

        P.S. You gotta update your notification feature to people who reply to your posts on Sherdog. You never seem to respond to posts unless you're ducking people

        It's a damn good feature and I wish there was some way to do it on this site.
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        • MMAbetMASTA
          SBR MVP
          • 05-24-11
          • 1931

          #4869
          Originally posted by fosho14
          First of all the last time I checked 10% is not very close to 1/4 so I don't know if that was just a bad joke or what but I'd really like to move past this. Who knows if I'll be here in 8 months, I stopped by to try things out hoping that there would be slightly less retarded ppl here than the millions of knobs on sherdog and I definitely still believe that's the case despite this little debacle (a lot of people on sbr are kind enough to post some very quality content). Lets be honest, the unexpected, unlikely, and improbable happened at 144 and your absolutely correct in that I handled that like a bitch barking out in anger at the whole forum. Although I must confess what I said was for the most part true, as I read every single post regarding the event and the analysis on this site collectively as a whole was simply atrocious and if someone was to hypothetically follow the general beliefs of what ppl on here agreed on they would in fact be deep in the hole... we can agree to disagree about that if you like. I just felt a bit frustrated by how bad the vast majority of it on here was not saying that everyone was bad. I understand I should keep that to myself next time. Look, I'm sorry I made a comment about your choice of sitting on a keyboard by yourself during a ppv and reporting your live status updates on here instead of getting together with buddies to share the experience. I shouldn't have done that as that clearly hit a nerve. If that's what one enjoys doing than by all means to each his own. Who am I to judge? I didn't take too kindly of your inital attack because imo it could not be further from the truth as I really do my best to post intelligent insight/forecasting. It's annoying to hear you say what you say when it holds zero merit as I'm the exact opposite of whatever you were trying to describe. I'm confused bud, you say you you don't care to know shit about me, yet you feel you hold the right to harsh judge me despite not knowing shit. It's very flawed thinking my friend. Martial arts is my favorite sport. I've trained it, been watching it for a looong time, thoroughly enjoy it, and consider myself extremely knowledgable much like many others who post their thoughts here. Instead of wasting precious time on this meaningless bullshit lets focus our energy on upcoming events, and growing our profits how does that sound? Sorry about all the hate, it's clearly better that we discuss mma analysis here rather than insult each other, as it's a huge time waster and it could very well never end!

          correct?
          I agree and I apologize too - I don't think too often before I type stuff on here and my tone can come off very condesending and arrogant. I'm sure a lot of people find me to be an arrogant prick on here, and I'm doing my best not to come off as such. I'm actually a pretty friendly, nice and caring dude.

          Its sounds like we both misunderstood eachother and instead of making another arrogant response to your response I should have not engaged in another piss match. The few times I do make an arrogant or attacking response I often find myself regretting it and wonder why I stooped to that level or arrogance (yet there are a couple shit talkers on here who just crack me up and are much better than I at attacking people...you know who you are lol).

          Man of you to 'squash the beef' on here.... But really I apprecfiate it and agree with everything you said. We both agree to disagree and both agree on some things and both realize we came off as jerks to people. Let's put the bs aside and help eachother - as we both agree - that is what this site is for - bounce ideas and inisght off of each other.

          I do my best not to get into arguments and shit talking on here but often times find myself getting sucked into them for some stupid reason...probably booze has some effect lol. Cheers and GL this weekend, I hope we all have a much, much better one than last
          Last edited by MMAbetMASTA; 02-29-12, 09:27 PM.
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          • MMAbetMASTA
            SBR MVP
            • 05-24-11
            • 1931

            #4870
            Originally posted by gabe
            I'm lost... What play are you talking about? All I recall saying was that Okami wasn't the safest play on the card due to his not-so-great chin and Tim's power.

            At the same time, I felt the over 2.5 was pretty safe... Pretty stupid of me.
            Dude you're telling me. I did the math on my picks and had I not touched that over I would have won about 330 that night, instead I lost about a hundred. That over killed me (and I am not playing overs again unless low lines and will never double or triple that play - I've learned my lesson on those for the last time).

            I just thought you had posted something about putting units on boetsch last minute. I know someone else did it and I thought it was you I guess.
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            • MMAbetMASTA
              SBR MVP
              • 05-24-11
              • 1931

              #4871
              Originally posted by gabe
              My book is offering Gustaffson for -245, Vitor for -265, Brian Stann for -360

              I think at least Vitor and Gustaff are worth maxing out. What say you?
              stann is vastly overvalued in that price imo... sakara has legit hands, but a glassy chin. Outside of chin and a size advantage, I don't see brian being especially better anywhere else.

              You agree V or do you think stann is legit at that price?
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              • Vaughany
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 03-07-10
                • 45563

                #4872
                Originally posted by gabe
                He dominates who you call a mediocre fighter, and you're betting against him on a big favorite (who, although talented, himself isn't the greatest)?
                I dont get your point? Firstly, -150 suggest he has 60% chance of winning...does this equate to a "big favourite" to you? What if he's -200, is that a Mega favourite? -250 = Uber favourite? -300 = Superduper favourite?!

                Thompson has fought two guys that are anywhere near UFC level in Boughton and Vedepo (a middle-weight) and lost to both. He's also plagued with injuries from his strongman days. Tore his bicep on his right arm before 138 which was the one arm he hadnt injured in past! At least Jordan has faced and beaten a half decent guy in Lavar Johnson where he showed clear improvements in his game as well as physique since training in Albuquerque. Only a smallish play as there is always the obvious risk with HW's of them getting caught
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                • Vaughany
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 03-07-10
                  • 45563

                  #4873
                  Originally posted by Wanna Bet On It?
                  Still good to know. I was gonna fade Rampage KOTN @ -1000 after the missed weight fiasco but didn't feel confident that Dana would deny him the award if he pulled off the lone KO; he's not Frank Mir after all...

                  P.S. You gotta update your notification feature to people who reply to your posts on Sherdog. You never seem to respond to posts unless you're ducking people

                  It's a damn good feature and I wish there was some way to do it on this site.
                  ha yeah half the time Im trolling on there tho so forget I've even posted!
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                  • Vaughany
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 03-07-10
                    • 45563

                    #4874
                    Originally posted by MMAbetMASTA
                    stann is vastly overvalued in that price imo... sakara has legit hands, but a glassy chin. Outside of chin and a size advantage, I don't see brian being especially better anywhere else.

                    You agree V or do you think stann is legit at that price?
                    Have to agree, not at tht price. I took him at -250 opener on unibet knowing he'd probably end up -350 or something elsewhere but at current odds I'd rather wait and take him by TKO/KO or KO of the Night. Obvious advantages in this one for Stann are his power, cardio, his mental and physical strengths, and ability to implement a gameplan that combined rightly make him a favourite. Sakara as we know hasn't fought in a while and has had trouble during fight weeks with losing the weight and illnesses. I do think Sakara is probably better technically in stand-up and grappling, but counting on Sakara to use his underrated ground game is like counting on Kongo to not stand with Mark Hunt!
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                    • bigblue74
                      SBR Sharp
                      • 01-24-08
                      • 345

                      #4875
                      yoo
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                      • Beelzebubzy
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 06-06-11
                        • 6995

                        #4876
                        Jones inside the distance at -172?

                        I dont get it. Do people think he cant finish Rashad.
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                        • gabe
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 09-12-11
                          • 7405

                          #4877
                          Originally posted by Vaughany
                          I dont get your point? Firstly, -150 suggest he has 60% chance of winning...does this equate to a "big favourite" to you? What if he's -200, is that a Mega favourite? -250 = Uber favourite? -300 = Superduper favourite?!

                          Thompson has fought two guys that are anywhere near UFC level in Boughton and Vedepo (a middle-weight) and lost to both. He's also plagued with injuries from his strongman days. Tore his bicep on his right arm before 138 which was the one arm he hadnt injured in past! At least Jordan has faced and beaten a half decent guy in Lavar Johnson where he showed clear improvements in his game as well as physique since training in Albuquerque. Only a smallish play as there is always the obvious risk with HW's of them getting caught
                          Um, he IS -200. Where do you see him at -150? He was -190 when I said that, and yes, that is a "Big favorite" - not that big, but big enough to be considered big. He's at -200 now. Just because he was at -150 for five seconds when you made your bet doesn't mean that's the line.

                          No, I'm afraid I don't use words like "uber" and "super-duper"
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                          • PunisherIND
                            SBR MVP
                            • 02-24-11
                            • 4980

                            #4878
                            Originally posted by Beelzebubzy
                            Jones inside the distance at -172?

                            I dont get it. Do people think he cant finish Rashad.
                            i dont get it either. and it opened -179 so the early money is on the other side. i jumped on it at -179 thinking that it had to go to -250 at least, but looks like im missing something.

                            edit: jones/evans ITD at -280 also looks too good to be true. i grabbed this one at -230.
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                            • Vaughany
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 03-07-10
                              • 45563

                              #4879
                              Originally posted by gabe
                              Um, he IS -200. Where do you see him at -150? He was -190 when I said that, and yes, that is a "Big favorite" - not that big, but big enough to be considered big. He's at -200 now. Just because he was at -150 for five seconds when you made your bet doesn't mean that's the line.

                              No, I'm afraid I don't use words like "uber" and "super-duper"
                              No but it was the line that I made the play at. I bet on him at -150 and said I wouldn't bet on him at worse than -150 so Jordan being at -200 is irrelevant to me. All it does is say that I got him at a good price and tht majority are betting him up to -200 which means I'm not the only one liking him.

                              You've used "Uber" to describe your locks or favourite plays so u do use it!
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                              • Vaughany
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 03-07-10
                                • 45563

                                #4880
                                Adding:


                                Parlay: 6.243 units on C.Miller/Siler to Not Go the Distance (-280), Te-Huna/Rosa to Not Go the Distance (-245), Jones/Evans to Not Go the Distance (-280), & JDS/Overeem to Not Go the Distance (-750) to win 12.108 units.
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                                • gabe
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 09-12-11
                                  • 7405

                                  #4881
                                  Originally posted by Vaughany
                                  No but it was the line that I made the play at. I bet on him at -150 and said I wouldn't bet on him at worse than -150 so Jordan being at -200 is irrelevant to me. All it does is say that I got him at a good price and tht majority are betting him up to -200 which means I'm not the only one liking him.

                                  You've used "Uber" to describe your locks or favourite plays so u do use it!
                                  lol i'm pretty sure i've never used the word "uber" in my life. only words i've used to describe big plays are: monster, lock, huge, giant

                                  And we are talking about betting Jordan. What line YOU got him at is what is irrelevant. He's not at that line anymore for anyone else.

                                  I guess you don't feel good about Jordan. Who do you actually feel good about this week? Last week you said Rampage and Kongo.
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                                  • Grabaka
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 02-19-11
                                    • 3216

                                    #4882
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                                    • Vaughany
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 03-07-10
                                      • 45563

                                      #4883
                                      Originally posted by gabe
                                      lol i'm pretty sure i've never used the word "uber" in my life. only words i've used to describe big plays are: monster, lock, huge, giant

                                      And we are talking about betting Jordan. What line YOU got him at is what is irrelevant. He's not at that line anymore for anyone else.

                                      I guess you don't feel good about Jordan. Who do you actually feel good about this week? Last week you said Rampage and Kongo.
                                      ha okay then, monster instead of uber...same thing!

                                      It is relevant when you are betting based on value...different styles for different folks...you might bet on him whether he's at -150 or -250 just because you think he wins. I personally don't work like like that. Take Rampage for instance as you brought him up, I thought that -200 was good enough value to make a medium to large sized play. At tht point, unless you were his doctor or a part of his camp, you wouldnt of known about his knee injury and struggle to make weight. However, after he missed weight and mentioned the injury, -200 for me went from being good value to poor value so I arbed out. With Kongo, I got him at -220 which in relation to what he ended up at (-275 to -300 range) it was good value.

                                      Ronday Rousey winning is the one I feel good about the most this week.
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                                      • Beelzebubzy
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 06-06-11
                                        • 6995

                                        #4884
                                        Originally posted by PunisherIND
                                        i dont get it either. and it opened -179 so the early money is on the other side. i jumped on it at -179 thinking that it had to go to -250 at least, but looks like im missing something.

                                        edit: jones/evans ITD at -280 also looks too good to be true. i grabbed this one at -230.
                                        I grabbed 2u at -172
                                        Here is how the fight plays out
                                        Round 1: Jones lands a takedown. He is in guard. Lands an elbow. Herb Dean pulls him off.

                                        Bubzy and Punisher buy beers.

                                        The End
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                                        • gabe
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 09-12-11
                                          • 7405

                                          #4885
                                          Originally posted by Vaughany
                                          ha okay then, monster instead of uber...same thing!

                                          It is relevant when you are betting based on value...different styles for different folks...you might bet on him whether he's at -150 or -250 just because you think he wins. I personally don't work like like that. Take Rampage for instance as you brought him up, I thought that -200 was good enough value to make a medium to large sized play. At tht point, unless you were his doctor or a part of his camp, you wouldnt of known about his knee injury and struggle to make weight. However, after he missed weight and mentioned the injury, -200 for me went from being good value to poor value so I arbed out. With Kongo, I got him at -220 which in relation to what he ended up at (-275 to -300 range) it was good value.

                                          Ronday Rousey winning is the one I feel good about the most this week.
                                          You said I specifically used the word "uber" to describe a play lmao -- uber and monster aren't even close... anyway-- Kongo went from -220 to -300 for you? Weird, he went from like -325 to -260 for me.
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                                          • Vaughany
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 03-07-10
                                            • 45563

                                            #4886
                                            Lets all enjoy Ronda Rousey's fractals.... http://www.fractaldomains.com/gallery/rondas-gallery/
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                                            • gabe
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 09-12-11
                                              • 7405

                                              #4887
                                              wtfugazi?
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                                              • NunyaBidness
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 07-26-09
                                                • 9345

                                                #4888
                                                Originally posted by gabe
                                                wtfugazi?
                                                It's math, you wouldn't understand.
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                                                • NunyaBidness
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 07-26-09
                                                  • 9345

                                                  #4889
                                                  Originally posted by gabe
                                                  You said I specifically used the word "uber" to describe a play lmao -- uber and monster aren't even close...
                                                  That's arbitrary.
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                                                  • gabe
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 09-12-11
                                                    • 7405

                                                    #4890
                                                    Originally posted by NunyaBidness
                                                    It's math, you wouldn't understand.

                                                    looks like art to me.
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                                                    • gabe
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 09-12-11
                                                      • 7405

                                                      #4891
                                                      Watching Greg Fitzsimmons on Rogan podcast on ustream-- Brian and Greg nearly got in an RSS feed argument lol- V-Dawg, remember the RSS feed argument with Brian and Bill Burr?
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                                                      • gabe
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 09-12-11
                                                        • 7405

                                                        #4892
                                                        hey v, wagney fabiano has been scratched from the bellator tourney due to an injury he received while sparring with jared papazian, who put fabz in an armbar but fabz wouldn't tap and got hurt =/ -- rookie mistake by the fabz.
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                                                        • Vaughany
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 03-07-10
                                                          • 45563

                                                          #4893
                                                          Originally posted by gabe
                                                          Watching Greg Fitzsimmons on Rogan podcast on ustream-- Brian and Greg nearly got in an RSS feed argument lol- V-Dawg, remember the RSS feed argument with Brian and Bill Burr?
                                                          Haven't watched the Fitzsimmons one yet. lol Yeah, was one of the greatest most awkward moments ever! Redban was almost in tears at the end, went in to a massive sulk!

                                                          Have u seen this where Burr talks about it on his podcast... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zSIBWDEme4

                                                          "I got in an argument with Rogan's male assistant, his tech guy, whatever the fu*k u wanna call him"!!!
                                                          Last edited by Vaughany; 03-01-12, 02:04 PM.
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                                                          • Vaughany
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 03-07-10
                                                            • 45563

                                                            #4894
                                                            Originally posted by gabe
                                                            hey v, wagney fabiano has been scratched from the bellator tourney due to an injury he received while sparring with jared papazian, who put fabz in an armbar but fabz wouldn't tap and got hurt =/ -- rookie mistake by the fabz.
                                                            U called it
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                                                            • Vaughany
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 03-07-10
                                                              • 45563

                                                              #4895
                                                              Originally posted by gabe
                                                              looks like art to me.
                                                              Maybe math is art?!
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                                                              • NunyaBidness
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 07-26-09
                                                                • 9345

                                                                #4896
                                                                Originally posted by gabe
                                                                looks like art to me.
                                                                That's because you're dumb.
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                                                                • gabe
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 09-12-11
                                                                  • 7405

                                                                  #4897
                                                                  Originally posted by Vaughany
                                                                  Haven't watched the Fitzsimmons one yet. lol Yeah, was one of the greatest most awkward moments ever! Redban was almost in tears at the end, went in to a massive sulk!

                                                                  Have u seen this where Burr talks about it on his podcast... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zSIBWDEme4

                                                                  "I got in an argument with Rogan's male assistant, his tech guy, whatever the fu*k u wanna call him"!!!
                                                                  haha yeah, it was hilarious.

                                                                  and yeah, the argument was classic. i was hanging with brian and bill burr about an hour or two after they did that podcast, and everything was cool between 'em by then.

                                                                  i've been around burr a few times, but have never made conversation with him. he's so anti-weed he'll probably hate me lol
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                                                                  • gabe
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 09-12-11
                                                                    • 7405

                                                                    #4898
                                                                    Originally posted by NunyaBidness
                                                                    That's because you're dumb.
                                                                    I think you're a very dumb person, so... yeah...

                                                                    -edit-

                                                                    correction: you're smart, in regards to specific things, mostly math-related (due to your aspergers, i'm guessing) but generally, you're pretty dumb.
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                                                                    • NunyaBidness
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 07-26-09
                                                                      • 9345

                                                                      #4899
                                                                      Originally posted by gabe
                                                                      I think you're a very dumb person, so... yeah...
                                                                      No you don't.
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                                                                      • NunyaBidness
                                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                        • 07-26-09
                                                                        • 9345

                                                                        #4900
                                                                        Originally posted by gabe
                                                                        correction: you're smart, in regards to specific things, mostly math-related (due to your aspergers, i'm guessing) but generally, you're pretty dumb.
                                                                        Actually, I don't have aspergers, I won 2k on a prop bet proving that I didn't have it. Stupid people think to be good at remedial math you need to be an aspy for some reason. When, in reality, gambling math takes nothing beyond junior high school algebra, and college level Statistics 101.

                                                                        My graduate work is in philosophy, something high functioning autism would be a detriment to.

                                                                        I'd happily prop bet you than I could out-test you in any subject in the world (outside of foreign languages, sorry me no speaky armenian), but you don't have enough money or honor to make it worthwhile.
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