Rousey throws better punches that i expected. Feeling much better about her now. She looks in amazing shape as well. It appears that she plans to work her jab...and it looks like her most proficient weapon on the feet.
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Vaughany
SBR Aristocracy
03-07-10
45563
#4801
Originally posted by Hannibal
Rousey throws better punches that i expected. Feeling much better about her now. She looks in amazing shape as well. It appears that she plans to work her jab...and it looks like her most proficient weapon on the feet.
She looks absolutely ripped!
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Vaughany
SBR Aristocracy
03-07-10
45563
#4802
The Anderson Silva documentary "Walk on Water" has been leaked....check it out, leading up to the Sonnen fight, briefly shows how he dealt with the injury before etc... REALLY GOOD!
MMAbetMASTA, If you've read any of my posts you'll see that I'm probably the least agreeable person on this message board when it comes to picks because I’m very opinionated and have a lot of my OWN THOUGHTS AND ANALYSIS. It’s funny because you couldn’t be more off base as I'm passionate and fascinated by the dynamics of the sport as a fan as well. I'd also like to think that I'm more knowledgeable than most about the fundamentals of mixed martial arts as I’ve trained bjj in the past which makes the betting experience that much more interesting. I like to follow all the fighters, and read about it in various mediums and publications, always listening to what other analysts have to say and how they break down the fight. I started reading the opinions on this forum to add to this mix because I thought people took a cerebral approach to their predictions and I respect that. It was another piece to the puzzle having another opinion to accompany all the other readings and discussion that exist out there before placing my wager. That doesn't mean the ppl here are always right, or that I'm always right, but what it does mean is that we both take this seriously and have logical opinions about match ups. If we were talking about hedge funds or investing in bonds, then this would be another story, as education qualification and credentials are everything. I wouldn't give a dam about what you had to say, and you wouldn't give a dam about what I had to say because for those risks there are established formulas and models and dozens of more appropriate methods for effectively assessing uncertainty and maximizing return. When it comes to the act of betting on mma however this could not be farther than the truth. There is no University of mma, or classess on betting, no. The only weapons we arm ourselves with are the research we conduct and the abilities and experiences we have in assessing the strengths and weaknesses of fighters and by how much each weakness or strength will offset the other. And of course mathematics for arbitrage (although there’s plenty of great software that exists for that). Collaboration and discussion is a potent thought provoking tool that fuels hypothetical scenarios and our conceptual predictions of how we think the fight will play out in reality. Since it is impossible to truly know what's going to happen, it's best to rule out and weigh certain contingencies against others, brainstorming as many possible ways that the fight could go down TOGETHER rather than INDIVIDUALLY you idiot. That doesn’t mean I don’t have my own opinion or don’t form my own decision at the end of the discussion. Does that make sense you tool?
I’m not at all saying that you should just copy and mindlessly follow whatever people do on here, but if you have a certain belief about a fight and 99% of people on a mma betting focused forum share that belief, does that not seem sensible to you to finalize your pick accordingly? I’m sorry mmabetMasta, I have a life and don’t scour these boards every waking minute of the day, and give live updates of the fight on my laptop as they’re going on instead of enjoying them out with friends at a bar like a normal human being lol. That’ll be all.
you clearly didn't grasp my point and you're acting like I was talking directly to you, little baby.
I think you thought way too deep about what I was relaying (basically that you're a dumbass tool if you come on here and just make picks based strictly on what other people say... which it sounds like you're not from what you've written above, but sorry if you can't understand why you made yourself out to sound as such... and I was still doing my best to not attack you directly - in case I did have it wrong and you weren't one of these people - but rather generalize my tone as if I were talking to a mass of people who might be those 'air bettors' who come on here and follow picks without doing their own research or having their own knowledge on the sport, aka dumb shit degenerates), and went overboard with your response telling me a bunch of ish that had nothing to do with my response nor is it shit I care to know about - glad you train bjj, bra - awesome However, I wholeheartedly agree with you on your insight toward the value on this board and the bouncing of ideas, brainstorming and research off of one another on here...well no shit, sherlock - why do you think most of us come on here? A pure genius you must be.
I'm not going to take the time to explain why I disagree with your hedge / investment biz example and why I still believe mma is the best sport to gamble in the world - I have a life.
And considering you've been on this site about a month and you have about 1/4 the posts as I, something tells me I have much more of a life than you....lol. Let's see how many posts you have in 8 months.
That'll be all.
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MMAbetMASTA
SBR MVP
05-24-11
1931
#4807
Originally posted by fosho14
MMAbetMASTA,
Gabe, I guess I stand corrected, and you must be one of the 1% or only ppl who weren’t backing okami or didn’t think that fight was in the bag! I had the feeling in my gut that okami has never really been a force to be reckoned with despite his winning% but it wasn’t enough to deter me. Nice call. Yes, I agree Fukuda was my second biggest play, huge lock. I’ll have to pay closer attention to your opinions
I bet on boetsch too, and posted the play in the 144 event thread...Not one play for me on the man named Yushin Okami.
btw, Gabe probably has no proof he played this or how much he played, etc... typical gabe - ish.
Ubnfortunately that 50 to win 173 at +345 didn't mean shit as I lost my ass on the okami / boetsch over (admiteddly, I only made the boetsch play because I couldn not envision an okami stoppage but could see tim stopping okami, so it was more a backup rather than me really believing tim was a legit dog to win).
So perhaps that is 2% of people on here...If Gabe is really telling daaaaaaaa TROOF!!!
BTW... I'm just giving you shit gabe, I do remember you posting that play if I can recall correctly Nice play vato.
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MMAbetMASTA
SBR MVP
05-24-11
1931
#4808
Originally posted by bjpenn85
This is the last time i play shields. seriously the man is a world champion in close decisions. I just cant take it anymore. I think arbing out of shields was sound V but passing Boetsch tko @ +550 was clearly a mistake. I played boetsh tko last minute, but this only covered 50% of the okami bet. Greediness!!
Do you have any opinions on Nick penner?
Let's not talk about this one until the line is out...
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gabe
SBR Hall of Famer
09-12-11
7405
#4809
Originally posted by MMAbetMASTA
btw, Gabe probably has no proof he played this or how much he played, etc... typical gabe - ish.
So perhaps that is 2% of people on here...If Gabe is really telling daaaaaaaa TROOF!!!
BTW... I'm just giving you shit gabe, I do remember you posting that play if I can recall correctly Nice play vato.
I'm lost... What play are you talking about? All I recall saying was that Okami wasn't the safest play on the card due to his not-so-great chin and Tim's power.
At the same time, I felt the over 2.5 was pretty safe... Pretty stupid of me.
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fosho14
SBR Wise Guy
01-25-12
554
#4810
Originally posted by MMAbetMASTA
And considering you've been on this site about a month and you have about 1/4 the posts as I, something tells me I have much more of a life than you....lol. Let's see how many posts you have in 8 months.
First of all the last time I checked 10% is not very close to 1/4 so I don't know if that was just a bad joke or what but I'd really like to move past this. Who knows if I'll be here in 8 months, I stopped by to try things out hoping that there would be slightly less retarded ppl here than the millions of knobs on sherdog and I definitely still believe that's the case despite this little debacle (a lot of people on sbr are kind enough to post some very quality content). Lets be honest, the unexpected, unlikely, and improbable happened at 144 and your absolutely correct in that I handled that like a bitch barking out in anger at the whole forum. Although I must confess what I said was for the most part true, as I read every single post regarding the event and the analysis on this site collectively as a whole was simply atrocious and if someone was to hypothetically follow the general beliefs of what ppl on here agreed on they would in fact be deep in the hole... we can agree to disagree about that if you like. I just felt a bit frustrated by how bad the vast majority of it on here was not saying that everyone was bad. I understand I should keep that to myself next time. Look, I'm sorry I made a comment about your choice of sitting on a keyboard by yourself during a ppv and reporting your live status updates on here instead of getting together with buddies to share the experience. I shouldn't have done that as that clearly hit a nerve. If that's what one enjoys doing than by all means to each his own. Who am I to judge? I didn't take too kindly of your inital attack because imo it could not be further from the truth as I really do my best to post intelligent insight/forecasting. It's annoying to hear you say what you say when it holds zero merit as I'm the exact opposite of whatever you were trying to describe. I'm confused bud, you say you you don't care to know shit about me, yet you feel you hold the right to harsh judge me despite not knowing shit. It's very flawed thinking my friend. Martial arts is my favorite sport. I've trained it, been watching it for a looong time, thoroughly enjoy it, and consider myself extremely knowledgable much like many others who post their thoughts here. Instead of wasting precious time on this meaningless bullshit lets focus our energy on upcoming events, and growing our profits how does that sound? Sorry about all the hate, it's clearly better that we discuss mma analysis here rather than insult each other, as it's a huge time waster and it could very well never end!
correct?
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gabe
SBR Hall of Famer
09-12-11
7405
#4811
Originally posted by fosho14
Look, I'm sorry I made a comment about your choice of sitting on a keyboard by yourself during a ppv and reporting your live status updates on here instead of getting together with buddies to share the experience. I shouldn't have done that as that clearly hit a nerve. If that's what one enjoys doing than by all means to each his own. Who am I to judge?
I often watch alone in front of the computer, too. Could call friends up and go to a bar, but when I've got a lot of $ on the line, I feel most confident in front of my laptop with a pipe full of kush in my hand.
I wouldn't wanna be out with friends and having a terrible night.
I was down big during UFC 135. Lost huge on the prelims, then went to the bar with a friend to watch the rest, and started betting much bigger on my plays for the main card... chased and won. being at the bar is great when you're winning. especially when you go 5-0. =)
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Vaughany
SBR Aristocracy
03-07-10
45563
#4812
Originally posted by gabe
I often watch alone in front of the computer, too. Could call friends up and go to a bar, but when I've got a lot of $ on the line, I feel most confident in front of my laptop with a pipe full of kush in my hand.
I wouldn't wanna be out with friends and having a terrible night.
I was down big during UFC 135. Lost huge on the prelims, then went to the bar with a friend to watch the rest, and started betting much bigger on my plays for the main card... chased and won. being at the bar is great when you're winning. especially when you go 5-0. =)
Wise words Gabriel. Also, with the live-betting options now, I don't really wanna be taking my laptop to the nightclub and checking the live betting after every round!
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JAKEPEAVY21
BARRELED IN @ SBR!
03-11-11
29242
#4813
SHINYA AOKI PK+150
EDDIE ALVAREZ PK-200
thoughts on this fight, guys? Aoki+150 looks damn good to me but would like some input
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omalley21
SBR Wise Guy
11-08-10
908
#4814
Unless its in Japan I love Alvarez in that fight.
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PunisherIND
SBR MVP
02-24-11
4980
#4815
Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21
SHINYA AOKI PK+150
EDDIE ALVAREZ PK-200
thoughts on this fight, guys? Aoki+150 looks damn good to me but would like some input
im with you on this one. i favor alvarez to win, but i dont think he should be close to -200. i dont understand this line given the fact that the line was much closer the first time they fought, and that aoki won that fight. and not much has changed in the interim.
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bjpenn85
SBR Hall of Famer
02-17-11
5059
#4816
Same here. I was like wtf mufucka biatch. But then i realised it happens in bellator. No way I trust aoki in that huuuuge cage. If this was in japan i would probably lay -300 on aoki. He is the best in the world in a ring.
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My book is offering Gustaffson for -245, Vitor for -265, Brian Stann for -360
I think at least Vitor and Gustaff are worth maxing out. What say you?
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FightFightFight
SBR Wise Guy
03-21-11
594
#4824
Might not want to tie up too much money on Vitor. Fights a long way off, and guys could get injured. ...Donkey.
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gabe
SBR Hall of Famer
09-12-11
7405
#4825
Originally posted by FightFightFight
Might not want to tie up too much money on Vitor. Fights a long way off, and guys could get injured. ...Donkey.
I figured he'd be -400 by fight time and I could arb out, although I don't think he loses.
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NunyaBidness
SBR Hall of Famer
07-26-09
9345
#4826
Originally posted by gabe
I figured he'd be -400 by fight time and I could arb out, although I don't think he loses.
Then why would you arb out?
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gabe
SBR Hall of Famer
09-12-11
7405
#4827
Originally posted by NunyaBidness
Then why would you arb out?
I probably won't on Vitor. Might on Gustaff. Do you think these lines are worth maxing? They are better than all the online lines I see. I think he will change them soon.
Already maxed Gustaff.
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NunyaBidness
SBR Hall of Famer
07-26-09
9345
#4828
Originally posted by gabe
I probably won't on Vitor. Might on Gustaff. Do you think these lines are worth maxing? They are better than all the online lines I see. I think he will change them soon.
Already maxed Gustaff.
I've maxed Vitor at a few places at -225 and -275. I haven't studied the Gustaffson line yet as its still far enough away and the line doesn't seem to have much movement yet, so its safe to wait.
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gabe
SBR Hall of Famer
09-12-11
7405
#4829
Originally posted by NunyaBidness
I've maxed Vitor at a few places at -225 and -275. I haven't studied the Gustaffson line yet as its still far enough away and the line doesn't seem to have much movement yet, so its safe to wait.
He's -260 on 5dimes, so I thought the -245 was good...
Where do you see the Vitor line ending up?
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FightFightFight
SBR Wise Guy
03-21-11
594
#4830
Plus you might get good stuff like fight ends in rd1, vitor ko. Wand has seen some support, so it's not inconceivable the line holds, especially with the media exposure they'll get later.