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  • kiefynugs
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 11-20-10
    • 572

    #806
    lol saved by the arb
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    • The HOFF
      SBR MVP
      • 07-02-08
      • 4847

      #807
      A +$$$ night as usual.
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      • Vaughany
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 03-07-10
        • 45563

        #808
        Originally posted by The HOFF
        A +$$$ night as usual.
        Yeah only just...not quite as fruitful as ur night..Villante let me down.
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        • Vaughany
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 03-07-10
          • 45563

          #809
          Additional UFC 127 Arb:

          12.5 units on Fitch/BJ Penn to go the distance at -200 to win 6.25 units;

          6.236 units on Fitch/BJ Penn to not go the distance at +255 to win 15.902 units.

          3.402 units profit if it doesn't go the distance, I'm big on Fitch winning by decision so will be using that on Fitch by decision prop most probably.
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          • Vaughany
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 03-07-10
            • 45563

            #810
            Originally posted by Vaughany
            Additional UFC 127 Arb:

            12.5 units on Fitch/BJ Penn to go the distance at -200 to win 6.25 units;

            6.236 units on Fitch/BJ Penn to not go the distance at +255 to win 15.902 units.

            3.402 units profit if it doesn't go the distance, I'm big on Fitch winning by decision so will be using that on Fitch by decision prop most probably.
            Adding:

            3.2 units on Fitch by decision at -105 to win 3.04 units.
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            • Vaughany
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 03-07-10
              • 45563

              #811
              UFC 127:


              0.46 units on Sotiropolous by Submission at +137.5 to win 0.632 units.

              Will be making a substantial play on G Sot Submission of the Night as well.
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              • thesox0311
                SBR Sharp
                • 01-23-10
                • 365

                #812
                Submission by Sotiropolous is the only way i see this fight going
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                • Poppa Catfish
                  SBR MVP
                  • 09-22-10
                  • 3352

                  #813
                  Siver by submission is the only way I see this fight going


                  If I'm wrong nobody will remember this post, but if I'm right I am a genius!


                  Sot looks very beatable recently , I'm just not convinced Siver is the one to do it, but I'll probably use Siver in a parlays as a multiplier.

                  But I do like the angle you are taking, and the price seems more than generous.
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                  • Vaughany
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 03-07-10
                    • 45563

                    #814
                    Originally posted by Poppa Catfish
                    Siver by submission is the only way I see this fight going


                    If I'm wrong nobody will remember this post, but if I'm right I am a genius!


                    Sot looks very beatable recently , I'm just not convinced Siver is the one to do it, but I'll probably use Siver in a parlays as a multiplier.

                    But I do like the angle you are taking, and the price seems more than generous.
                    ha what you thinking? Rocks GSot then follows up with a rear-naked a la Winner?
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                    • Poppa Catfish
                      SBR MVP
                      • 09-22-10
                      • 3352

                      #815
                      Something like that (except honestly it isn't happening, if anything it would be tapping due to strikes but I don't see it)

                      either that or he will use Michael Bisping's favorite submission, as seen on UFC.com, the triple decker pecker wrecker.

                      I see a Siver win as TKO stoppage, or a really ugly decision (which tends to happen when two guys have trained together before)
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                      • kiefynugs
                        SBR Wise Guy
                        • 11-20-10
                        • 572

                        #816
                        Originally posted by Vaughany
                        Adding:

                        3.2 units on Fitch by decision at -105 to win 3.04 units.

                        now that is a confident bet. I like it. BJ Penn is not meant to hang with the wrestlefuc*ers of WW. He is stuck between two worlds
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                        • Vaughany
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 03-07-10
                          • 45563

                          #817
                          Originally posted by Poppa Catfish
                          Something like that (except honestly it isn't happening, if anything it would be tapping due to strikes but I don't see it)

                          either that or he will use Michael Bisping's favorite submission, as seen on UFC.com, the triple decker pecker wrecker.

                          I see a Siver win as TKO stoppage, or a really ugly decision (which tends to happen when two guys have trained together before)
                          Yeah, I can get Siver by TKo/KO at +900 on a Euro site which is quite tempting, may do it as a hedge to G Sot Submission of the Night bet. But as you say I wouldnt rule out a decision in this one either.
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                          • Vaughany
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 03-07-10
                            • 45563

                            #818
                            Originally posted by Poppa Catfish

                            Michael Bisping's favorite submission, as seen on UFC.com, the triple decker pecker wrecker.
                            lol with all the sh*t talking Rivera has been doing I wouldnt be surprised if Bisping unleashes it!
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                            • Poppa Catfish
                              SBR MVP
                              • 09-22-10
                              • 3352

                              #819
                              Originally posted by Vaughany
                              Yeah, I can get Siver by TKo/KO at +900 on a Euro site which is quite tempting, may do it as a hedge to G Sot Submission of the Night bet. But as you say I wouldnt rule out a decision in this one either.
                              I think you are on the most likely prop already, for me I see value in Siver just sitting at +300, very strong multiplier and Sot has looked very vulnerable. I think the odds are off but I think more times than not Sot takes this fight by submission.
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                              • Vaughany
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 03-07-10
                                • 45563

                                #820
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                                • thesox0311
                                  SBR Sharp
                                  • 01-23-10
                                  • 365

                                  #821
                                  any chance Fitch could knockout or submit Penn? or is this fight def. going to the cards...
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                                  • Vaughany
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 03-07-10
                                    • 45563

                                    #822
                                    Originally posted by thesox0311
                                    any chance Fitch could knockout or submit Penn? or is this fight def. going to the cards...
                                    I see it going the distance at least 75% of the time and Fitch taking the decision at least 75% of the time. Fitch has showed against Pierce and GSP that he has a great chin and ability to recover. Of course anything can happen in MMA and I'm sure some will see value in props such as BJ by sub.
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                                    • The HOFF
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 07-02-08
                                      • 4847

                                      #823
                                      That's a bad ass highlight.
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                                      • Shagdogy
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 06-16-10
                                        • 3564

                                        #824
                                        Is it crazy that I've started to have thoughts of BJ actually being able to keep this fight standing? Fitch's wrestling has neither the power of GSP nor the speed of Frankie Edgar. His takedowns take a much longer time to complete than both of those guys and I still believe BJ's takedown defense is solid if he's ready for it, and with Fitch he will have a fraction of a second longer to be ready for it. I'm not sure that this matters anyway because Fitch can easily pin BJ on the cage for 3 rounds and win an ugly clinch battle, but it has crossed my mind that BJ could win a technical boxing match. I'm kicking myself for not getting on Fitch sooner at -140 when it opened, but I don't like him now in the -190 range.
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                                        • urge2kill
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 10-27-09
                                          • 1722

                                          #825
                                          You can get Fitch by decision at -142 at 5Dimes. I don't think he has much of a chance of finishing Penn.
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                                          • Vaughany
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 03-07-10
                                            • 45563

                                            #826
                                            Originally posted by Shagdogy
                                            Is it crazy that I've started to have thoughts of BJ actually being able to keep this fight standing? Fitch's wrestling has neither the power of GSP nor the speed of Frankie Edgar. His takedowns take a much longer time to complete than both of those guys and I still believe BJ's takedown defense is solid if he's ready for it, and with Fitch he will have a fraction of a second longer to be ready for it. I'm not sure that this matters anyway because Fitch can easily pin BJ on the cage for 3 rounds and win an ugly clinch battle, but it has crossed my mind that BJ could win a technical boxing match. I'm kicking myself for not getting on Fitch sooner at -140 when it opened, but I don't like him now in the -190 range.
                                            Not crazy at all, u could well be spot on with tht line of thinking! Im counting on Fitch's relentlessness and cardio rather than his technical takedown ability and speed. I tend to agree with your view tht a substantial portion of each round will just be Fitch pinning BJ against the cage showing perceived "octagon control"!

                                            Originally posted by urge2kill
                                            You can get Fitch by decision at -142 at 5Dimes. I don't think he has much of a chance of finishing Penn.
                                            Yeah but -142 for a specific prop like tht in MMA is not good value IMO just because of all the variables and dodgey judges' decisions. I took Fitch by decision at -105, probably wouldnt of taken it at anything worse than -110.
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                                            • RaiderNation MMA
                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                              • 11-05-10
                                              • 598

                                              #827
                                              BJ is gonna win!!!! its obvious what fitch's is gonna do i believe matt will have him ready!
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                                              • terpkeg
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 10-26-09
                                                • 2364

                                                #828
                                                Originally posted by Vaughany
                                                Yeah but -142 for a specific prop like tht in MMA is not good value IMO just because of all the variables and dodgey judges' decisions. I took Fitch by decision at -105, probably wouldnt of taken it at anything worse than -110.
                                                -105 = 51.2%
                                                -142 = 58.7%

                                                Definitely losing the value here imo. 5dimes has To Decision at -300. If you think that is close to accurate, about 75% of time, will go decision. If you think Fitch takes 3 of 4 of those, 56.3% Fitch by Dec. Need to get about 85% of the decisions for Fitch to still see value. If you think it goes to Decision more than 75% of the time, at about 80% or more, maybe you start looking at taking To Decision Prop instead.
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                                                • Shagdogy
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 06-16-10
                                                  • 3564

                                                  #829
                                                  Originally posted by Vaughany
                                                  Yeah but -142 for a specific prop like tht in MMA is not good value IMO just because of all the variables and dodgey judges' decisions. I took Fitch by decision at -105, probably wouldnt of taken it at anything worse than -110.
                                                  I wouldn't worry about the bad decisions too much. BJ does not generally get much love from judges. In fact, I'm not sure he has ever really benefited from judging in his career. Although, if one person is boring enough to be on the wrong end of a bad decision it's Fitch. I still think you're good though.

                                                  You're right though, i don't like to take props for specific outcomes for anything less than plus money. The lowest I've gone was evens on Silva by TKO over Belfort.
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                                                  • MMAdisciple
                                                    SBR High Roller
                                                    • 02-16-11
                                                    • 227

                                                    #830
                                                    Originally posted by Shagdogy
                                                    The lowest I've gone was evens on Silva by TKO over Belfort.
                                                    I got Silva by KO over Belfort at +145 on 5Dimes, where did you get it at evens?
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                                                    • omalley21
                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                      • 11-08-10
                                                      • 908

                                                      #831
                                                      I think BJ could definitely win this fight. If he trains hard and comes to fight. But thats a big IF. But honestly, Fitch is overrated.
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                                                      • Shagdogy
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 06-16-10
                                                        • 3564

                                                        #832
                                                        Originally posted by MMAdisciple

                                                        I got Silva by KO over Belfort at +145 on 5Dimes, where did you get it at evens?
                                                        BetUS. But it was last minute. I waited and missed the value on it. I've been trying to avoid props and stick mostly to just picking winners but I had to take that last minute. I had 4 units on Silva to win, but I added 1 on that cause I was feeling it.
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                                                        • Vaughany
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 03-07-10
                                                          • 45563

                                                          #833
                                                          More UFC 127 Plays:

                                                          0.545 units on Pearson/Fisher to Decision at +120 to win 0.654 units;

                                                          0.335 units on Pearson by Decision at +200 to win 0.670 units;

                                                          0.08 units on Lytle by TKO/KO at +1000 to win 0.8 units.
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                                                          • thesox0311
                                                            SBR Sharp
                                                            • 01-23-10
                                                            • 365

                                                            #834
                                                            I just think if BJ can stay on his feet, he has a chance.
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                                                            • corcoran65
                                                              SBR Hustler
                                                              • 02-20-11
                                                              • 58

                                                              #835
                                                              vaughanny so who is this ebersole and what is ur percent that lytle wins
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                                                              • Squareguy
                                                                SBR Sharp
                                                                • 12-30-10
                                                                • 481

                                                                #836
                                                                Originally posted by thesox0311
                                                                any chance Fitch could knockout or submit Penn? or is this fight def. going to the cards...
                                                                Fitch derives sexual pleasure from grinding on helpless opponents. It's possible, but decision is always a safe bet.
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                                                                • Vaughany
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 03-07-10
                                                                  • 45563

                                                                  #837
                                                                  Adding:

                                                                  1.804 units on Fisher at +175 to win win 3.157 units.
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                                                                  • Jordan23
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 04-26-10
                                                                    • 1227

                                                                    #838
                                                                    Good luck on your plays this weekend.
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                                                                    • Vaughany
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 03-07-10
                                                                      • 45563

                                                                      #839
                                                                      Originally posted by corcoran65
                                                                      vaughanny so who is this ebersole and what is ur percent that lytle wins
                                                                      I capped Lytle winning this 60-70% of the time. There's been some interesting line movement in this one, Ebersole came out at +425 and then dropped to +245 yesterday and is now at +175 with Lytle at -240 which suprised me as I expected Lytle to stay at -275 to -300 range. I guess the perceived home advantage, solid chin of Ebersole and crazy youtube clip might be influencing the betting public!
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                                                                      • Vaughany
                                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                                        • 03-07-10
                                                                        • 45563

                                                                        #840
                                                                        Added:

                                                                        1 unit on Warburton at +145 to win 1.45 units.
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