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  • ghislaine
    SBR MVP
    • 11-14-10
    • 1131

    #246
    Originally posted by hagball52
    Yeah I need to go back and look to see what I actually lost on the series. And yeah unless I state that I played it on the runline and it wins that way. If it's a sweep by the other team then it becomes a Morrison system bet. All my bets will be moneyline unless specified.

    ...and yeah, please post Your plays, You obviously know Your stuff and I like
    Good man
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    • Kev the Brit
      SBR MVP
      • 10-25-09
      • 2027

      #247
      Originally posted by hagball52
      Yes they are my own picks. It's a very primitive system but has worked rather well for me the past 2 seasons. I just review the upcoming series, look at rpi, check pitching (make sure top 2 pitchers are starting in series) and make sure the team hasn't been on a long win streak (due for a loss) and then bet to win one game in the series. Kind of taking a page out of JM's system but not waiting for the sweep. I've done it on a chase the past 2 years but this year I'll labby it and see if the results improve. The results were very good last 2 seasons even with 3rd game or [C] bet losses. I played enough series to where losses were expected but still ended up in the plus column. At some point I would like to refine it but for now still in the learning stage. JM starts April 25th with MIL vs CIN unless another series comes in, in the future.
      What RPI differential do you use?

      I use .025 or greater and there must not be RPI convergence of .001 per game over the last 10 games.

      In Apr I use .035 or greater from the last RPI table from the previous season, due to the lack of currency in the new RPI stats. Unfortunately, Philly just let me down

      Kev
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      • PanamaKid
        SBR Hustler
        • 12-29-10
        • 95

        #248
        Originally posted by Wallco99
        Usually they will jump to a 20 cent or 25 cent line after that. So dime line, the way you explained it would be as follows:

        -199 favorite ; +189 dog
        -200 favorite ; +180 dog

        The higher up you go, the more seperation you have. For example:

        -280 favorite ; +225 dog

        Dimelines are only effective at lower odds, most books stop in the -150's, but some go to-199. Those books make up for it on higher line games. This is what makes backtesting dogs so difficult. It is not just a matter of adding 10 or 20, because the higher they go, the more seperation. And some lines even overlap, like my example above. If you were backtesting a dog at +180 and playing a dimeline, you would assume the line was -190. But it also could be -200, because at that point it jumps to a 20 cent line. I have no idea what that guy was trying to explain earlier, but he doesn't understand odds.
        Got it, thanks Wallco.
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        • hagball52
          SBR MVP
          • 09-22-10
          • 3053

          #249
          Originally posted by PanamaKid
          Kind of strange to come to that conclusion based off one day of picks...
          Doesn't bother me at all. I respect JW, have read a lot of his posts, he knows what he's talking about. I did go check out G's thread and was impressed. I will definitely tail this guy unless my pick is opposite his but I doubt that will happen. It seems like we use a lot of the same criteria. GL all
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          • hagball52
            SBR MVP
            • 09-22-10
            • 3053

            #250
            Originally posted by Kev the Brit
            What RPI differential do you use?

            I use .025 or greater and there must not be RPI convergence of .001 per game over the last 10 games.

            In Apr I use .035 or greater from the last RPI table from the previous season, due to the lack of currency in the new RPI stats. Unfortunately, Philly just let me down

            Kev
            Real similar to what you posted but if it's too great I take a step back. An example of that happened twice last season. Baltimore went into Texas right before the all star break (right after Tex got Cliff Lee) and swept the Rangers in a 4 game set and then later in the season Houston went into Philly and swept them in a 3or 4 game set. I avoided both series. If the rpi is too far apart of course the juice will be too high also. I tend to avoid those series.

            If you look at the rpi right now it doesn't make a lot of sense. Not enough games played.
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            • hagball52
              SBR MVP
              • 09-22-10
              • 3053

              #251
              Split with the plays last night. On Boston today. I need to rethink the amounts I am posting. I strongly recommend the labby system but I started posting results on the chase (martingale) method. Not sure what I'm going to do going forward. I'm getting a lot of questions I didn't expect. If you played to win 1 unit on Boston you would have bet 1.55 units so now you need to recover 2.55 units and the line is -145 so the bet would be approx 3.7 units. The CIN win put my total units at -3 this season. Like I said I may change this. I will finish the series out and then make a decision. GL all
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              • PetrGasparik
                SBR Sharp
                • 05-19-10
                • 278

                #252
                Originally posted by Wallco99
                I have no idea what that guy was trying to explain earlier, but he doesn't understand odds.
                I realize I don't know what is dimeline but still, I think I understand odds. Althrough I use decimal format, so there may be some mistake in conversion to american odd format.

                If there was an error, point it. I am not perfect, but "WTF" is not enough.
                No offense, sir.
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                • maserati
                  SBR Hustler
                  • 09-23-10
                  • 79

                  #253
                  When does jm and wallco systems begin?
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                  • PanamaKid
                    SBR Hustler
                    • 12-29-10
                    • 95

                    #254
                    Hag, et al. Do you know if someone posts James Jone's TPS baseball system? I haven't been able to find the threat on the forum and I subscribe, so I could do it if no else does.
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                    • hagball52
                      SBR MVP
                      • 09-22-10
                      • 3053

                      #255
                      Originally posted by PanamaKid
                      Hag, et al. Do you know if someone posts James Jone's TPS baseball system? I haven't been able to find the threat on the forum and I subscribe, so I could do it if no else does.
                      If I'm not mistaken I think someone posted in this thread. If not then it was in one of the baseball threads I'm tracking. I'll try and go back and find it. But by all means post it. He's been hounding me with emails to buy his system.
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                      • hagball52
                        SBR MVP
                        • 09-22-10
                        • 3053

                        #256
                        Originally posted by maserati
                        When does jm and wallco systems begin?
                        Wallco is still working on his sytem and JM starts April 25th unless a series comes in sooner. Just hang tight and keep reading the posts.
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                        • Wallco99
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 01-01-11
                          • 7261

                          #257
                          Originally posted by PetrGasparik
                          I realize I don't know what is dimeline but still, I think I understand odds. Althrough I use decimal format, so there may be some mistake in conversion to american odd format.

                          If there was an error, point it. I am not perfect, but "WTF" is not enough.
                          No offense, sir.
                          You didn't offend me, you were just completely wrong and are going to confuse people. According to your post, a -200 odds team in your opinion will make you more money than a -115 team, when in fact that is completely wrong, both teams will make you 1 unit, and a -200 loss will cost you almost 80% more than a -115 loss. So no, in fact, you do not understand odds. If you were playing both of those teams as dogs +200 and +115, then yes, the higher # would be the greater reward.
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                          • Wallco99
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 01-01-11
                            • 7261

                            #258
                            xxxx
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                            • Wallco99
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 01-01-11
                              • 7261

                              #259
                              Originally posted by PetrGasparik
                              I realize I don't know what is dimeline but still, I think I understand odds. Althrough I use decimal format, so there may be some mistake in conversion to american odd format.

                              If there was an error, point it. I am not perfect, but "WTF" is not enough.
                              No offense, sir.
                              And it wasn't "WTF", actually it was "WTH".
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                              • soldier1047
                                SBR Sharp
                                • 10-26-10
                                • 332

                                #260
                                Don't buy TPS system. I post it earlier in the thread.
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                                • PanamaKid
                                  SBR Hustler
                                  • 12-29-10
                                  • 95

                                  #261
                                  Sorry soldier, but I don't see where you posted the plays from yesterday.

                                  I'll try to post them in here every day.

                                  TPS for 4/6
                                  (B) Philadelphia Phillies -135 7:05PM EST

                                  System record 6 -1
                                  Loss - Tampa Bay Rays on 4/3
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                                  • soldier1047
                                    SBR Sharp
                                    • 10-26-10
                                    • 332

                                    #262
                                    Sorry for misunderstanding. I meant I posted the tps system rules/criteria. Check the 1st or 2nd page for rules....(typing on phone sucks)
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                                    • PanamaKid
                                      SBR Hustler
                                      • 12-29-10
                                      • 95

                                      #263
                                      Originally posted by soldier1047
                                      Sorry for misunderstanding. I meant I posted the tps system rules/criteria. Check the 1st or 2nd page for rules....(typing on phone sucks)
                                      Oh, no problem. Thanks for the clarification. I'll go ahead and post the plays for those who don't want to track the system by themselves.
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                                      • c-fut
                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                        • 09-17-10
                                        • 547

                                        #264
                                        Thanks for the picks PanamaKid
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                                        • Wallco99
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 01-01-11
                                          • 7261

                                          #265
                                          That's a lot of sorry's, followed by a lot of thanks.
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                                          • ghislaine
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 11-14-10
                                            • 1131

                                            #266
                                            yeah, big thanks Panamakid
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                                            • PanamaKid
                                              SBR Hustler
                                              • 12-29-10
                                              • 95

                                              #267
                                              Originally posted by Wallco99
                                              That's a lot of sorry's, followed by a lot of thanks.
                                              Once you get your MLB system up, you'll be the one with a lot of thanks
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                                              • ghislaine
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 11-14-10
                                                • 1131

                                                #268
                                                Just eager for JM Baseball to start !!
                                                and a shout out to Wallco, You have quite the following
                                                Your system with NBA has made me serious moolah,
                                                very excited You are working on a system for MLB.
                                                And please, take Your time, I`d help You if I had any idea what I`m doing...
                                                The betting thing is still quite new to me, the bankroll and money management I got down
                                                thanks to my day trading background..
                                                Oh well, You know, women
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                                                • soldier1047
                                                  SBR Sharp
                                                  • 10-26-10
                                                  • 332

                                                  #269
                                                  Anyone here that have the DPS system?
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                                                  • smclaurin2
                                                    SBR Rookie
                                                    • 04-06-11
                                                    • 35

                                                    #270
                                                    Hi All. I'm new to the forum and have read several posts that reference using a labby in conjunction with systems. From what I have read, it seems that you spread a loss across several future bets (google examples were mainly focused on roulette so I'm not sure on the specifics). Can you please provide examples of how you use a labby (specifically, how many upcoming bets do you spread the loss over). I purchased the JM system and just found this forum today and am really pleased with this post. Any specific recommendations for using a labby with JM would be greatly appreciated. Looking forward to Wallco's system. Hoping everyone wins big this season!
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                                                    • greally311
                                                      SBR Rookie
                                                      • 02-05-10
                                                      • 30

                                                      #271
                                                      has anyone heard of the Triple Play System..... id be interested to hear about this system if anyone knew
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                                                      • soldier1047
                                                        SBR Sharp
                                                        • 10-26-10
                                                        • 332

                                                        #272
                                                        Triple play system is under post #102.
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                                                        • hagball52
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 09-22-10
                                                          • 3053

                                                          #273
                                                          Another sweep tonight. Add another play to your JM calender. SEA vs TEX starting 05/03/2011
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                                                          • Wallco99
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 01-01-11
                                                            • 7261

                                                            #274
                                                            Originally posted by soldier1047
                                                            Anyone here that have the DPS system?
                                                            Is that like X-Box?
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                                                            • soldier1047
                                                              SBR Sharp
                                                              • 10-26-10
                                                              • 332

                                                              #275
                                                              LOL. No x-box...the DPS is the double play system. I just want to backtest this.
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                                                              • soldier1047
                                                                SBR Sharp
                                                                • 10-26-10
                                                                • 332

                                                                #276
                                                                I got TPS backtested...should have results soon =)
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                                                                • jcygts6
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 04-05-09
                                                                  • 3316

                                                                  #277
                                                                  Originally posted by PanamaKid
                                                                  Oh, no problem. Thanks for the clarification. I'll go ahead and post the plays for those who don't want to track the system by themselves.
                                                                  thanks sent you some points for posting up the plays for TPS
                                                                  DO WORK + KROW OD
                                                                  do work! do work! do work! do work!
                                                                  od krow! od krow! od krow! od krow!
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                                                                  • ghislaine
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 11-14-10
                                                                    • 1131

                                                                    #278
                                                                    might need to go pro soon, just a couple more winners....
                                                                    points start staggering on me and hate that I cant give out more to You guys
                                                                    what was it, 200usd ????
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                                                                    • RAK
                                                                      SBR High Roller
                                                                      • 11-29-10
                                                                      • 237

                                                                      #279
                                                                      Check out these sites they may help you undersatand the labby better


                                                                      Labouchere is a progressive money management system that allows you to make a profit even if you win less than 50% of your sports bets.






                                                                      Originally posted by smclaurin2
                                                                      Hi All. I'm new to the forum and have read several posts that reference using a labby in conjunction with systems. From what I have read, it seems that you spread a loss across several future bets (google examples were mainly focused on roulette so I'm not sure on the specifics). Can you please provide examples of how you use a labby (specifically, how many upcoming bets do you spread the loss over). I purchased the JM system and just found this forum today and am really pleased with this post. Any specific recommendations for using a labby with JM would be greatly appreciated. Looking forward to Wallco's system. Hoping everyone wins big this season!
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                                                                      • smclaurin2
                                                                        SBR Rookie
                                                                        • 04-06-11
                                                                        • 35

                                                                        #280
                                                                        Thanks RAK. Exactly what I was looking for.
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