John Morrison 2011 MLB

TRE1968 · 04-13-11, 09:35 PM

Originally posted by honeyeater

Thanks

In all honesty I'm here because I use my system of money management with all of these different systems and things go very well. Usually I don't get involved with the neg on the thread but I am really curious. Do you really have that much time on your hands to post negative comments? I barely have enough to type this post. You criticize people but why? I could care less if someone on this thread was following a losing system. It's not my money. What do you give a ****? Is your life so shallow that you have to but into others with advice? Obviously everyone here thinks it's a winning system- so what? Does it make you feel that important that you have to correct strangers.
I only say this because you are the lowest form of individual that exists. If you are an American you ARE the main reason this country is in the shape it is in. Mind your own and let others mind theirs. If you are not going to include positive information on the subject at hand then do your own thing. Create a separate thread about how these systems suck. If not, as we would say in the Army, STAY IN YOUR OWN LANE-
Dumbass

TRE1968 · 04-13-11, 09:39 PM

hey just posting the facts

hagball52 · 04-13-11, 09:55 PM

Dang ! This thread is going sideways just like the NBA one did for awhile. Let's just focus on the task at hand and ignore the bullsh*t. Anyway I picked up a win with SDG and I don't know what to do about BOS.
Wasn't able to finish the series. I'm willing to accept all losses along the way but this one was incomplete. For now I'll just leave it off the totals. 19-2 with my series plays so far. I lost a few units cause Boston got rained out and not sure when the makeup game will be. More plays coming soon. GL all

By the way there were no sweeps today. Will keep you all posted.

1gamer · 04-13-11, 11:54 PM

I would like to hear a "sound off" of how many people on this thread have actually used and made money (Or lost money) on JM's MLB System? The reason I ask is that it amazes me how people will "trash" on a system they never before used (Especially against a proven money maker like Wallco)...I'm willing to bet most of the people following this thread have never even used JM's MLB system...
or Wallco's CHASE 110 for that matter... CASH IT!

Wallco99 · 04-14-11, 07:16 AM

Originally posted by 1gamer

I would like to hear a "sound off" of how many people on this thread have actually used and made money (Or lost money) on JM's MLB System? The reason I ask is that it amazes me how people will "trash" on a system they never before used (Especially against a proven money maker like Wallco)...I'm willing to bet most of the people following this thread have never even used JM's MLB system...
or Wallco's CHASE 110 for that matter... CASH IT!

Ooh, ooh, I know this one!

2010
Chase 110 - +$4650 (Didn't discover it until late January)
JM NBA - +$3390 (Started a different bet scheme at the end which will be very profitable next year)
JM NHL +$3175

But as our resident genius mentioned earlier, these systems don't win, so don't listen to me.

ghislaine · 04-14-11, 07:29 AM

Dont mind the haters Wallco, You know You have a lotta love here

Just keep up Your backtesting and everybody is very excited I am sure for Your results !! if MLB is anything like the NBA season,
You should be greeted as the hero !!

dbartinbwgc · 04-14-11, 08:11 AM

Wallco99
check your PMs

Wallco99 · 04-14-11, 08:17 AM

Originally posted by dbartinbwgc

Wallco99
check your PMs

Got it. Thanks.

hagball52 · 04-14-11, 09:12 AM

2010 : 230-11 (+184.9 units)
2009 : 246-14 (+119.5 units)
2008 : 231-10 (+147.7 units)
2007 : 229-16 (+ 67.3 units)

Hey Wallco are these series numbers or individual games ?

Never mind I just figured it out.

atari5200 · 04-14-11, 09:13 AM

hagball...nice call on SD. that was good $. Now you gotta count boston as a loss the way we counted phoenix suns in JM nba. you can put an * beside it or say something like 19-2-1* ...this could and will happen again in the future. a rained out game that gets postponed til later in the season cannot be continued as a c bet. The red sox have spoiled all the profits so far this season. But we'll keep pushing on.

hagball52 · 04-14-11, 09:20 AM

Originally posted by atari5200

hagball...nice call on SD. that was good $. Now you gotta count boston as a loss the way we counted phoenix suns in JM nba. you can put an * beside it or say something like 19-2-1* ...this could and will happen again in the future. a rained out game that gets postponed til later in the season cannot be continued as a c bet. The red sox have spoiled all the profits so far this season. But we'll keep pushing on.

Yeah I don't know what to do. I went to G's thread and he doesn't count an incomplete series as a loss so I kinda did the same but it doesn't really matter to me cause it's all about the money and not the record. So if you all think I should chalk it up as a loss then it's a loss. 19-3

teecee · 04-14-11, 09:50 AM

record matter not, it's whether your plays/system are in the black. that is the key.

hagball52 · 04-14-11, 09:59 AM

There are series starting today and tomorrow so for today My Plays will be HOU, LAD, KAN and MIN. Keep in mind these are all 4 game sets and I will play them to the end if necessary. You might want to go small on the Dodgers today cause of Garcia starting for the Cards but if I'm gonna play the series I gotta start with the first one. There will probably be more plays tomorrow depending on how today goes. My last series I only won one game on the first day and didn't want to stress my bankroll by playing more series until that one started to clear out. GL all

ghislaine · 04-14-11, 10:17 AM

Love that hagball is posting his plays. already picked a couple winners with his picks

Waiting for Wallco to finish his world of work and JM to start at the end of the month.
Are any of You guys tailing Crusher here ??
I have now for a couple of weeks and pretty much breaking even with labby. Is Crusher any good ???
I understand some people are making money with it.

Wallco99 · 04-14-11, 10:18 AM

Originally posted by hagball52

2010 : 230-11 (+184.9 units)
2009 : 246-14 (+119.5 units)
2008 : 231-10 (+147.7 units)
2007 : 229-16 (+ 67.3 units)

Hey Wallco are these series numbers or individual games ?

Never mind I just figured it out.

They are series, it is three combined systems in one. Each system has approx. 70-90 series per year. One system is devoted to favorite M/L, one system to Favorite R/L and one system to Dog M/L. We never play the +1 1/2 line. Depending on my criteria, several bets may be placed on the same team on the same day, counting as individual bets. And in some cases, we are betting both sides, realizing one team will lose the (A) bet, but will soon be recovered. The good thing about this is, if one system tanks, the other two have picked it up and then some, as you have seen from my data. And in many cases, all three had winning seasons. There are many bets, several we want to see win on (A) bet, which has been the case, and many others which we profit much higher from on a (C) or (D). The one thing I will guarantee, unlike Chase 110 this season, THERE WILL BE LOSSES. However, over the four year span, only 6 of the losses came on the "bet the favorite M/L" portion of the system. These losses generally were around 25-30 units, and three came in one season (needless to say, 2007) which was one of the seasons that crushes any backtest I have tried. Two of the other years, this part of the system went 80-0, and 94-1 (which happened to be 2009 and 2010), this is the main reason why I will not exclude the favorite S/U wagers from this system. But the other two systems more than made up for these losses, still producing +67 units by the end of 2007. Like I said, I am very confident in this system, but will not put it out there until I know it passes the dreaded 2006 backtest. This has been the year that has killed the majority of my backtests, but some of what I am testing now is the "opposite" of what I was testing before, so I hope the results are as well. So far, the worst season for any of the three portions of this system has been -9 units (2007 Favorite S/U category). I know this also did poorly in 2006, but I am confident the other two will make up for it, that is why that test is so important to me. Just bear with me here, and trust me when I do put it up and call it a "winner". And just for the record, the past does matter to the future for me!

analyzer · 04-14-11, 10:23 AM

Look forward to it Wallco!

smclaurin2 · 04-14-11, 10:38 AM

Can't wait Wallco. I really appreciate the time and effort!

hagball52 · 04-14-11, 10:56 AM

Thanks for the update Wallco. Sent you a few. GL

ghislaine · 04-14-11, 11:03 AM

Hooray for Wallco, we really appreciate everything. Sounds like a great system.
I am all for consistency and growing my bankroll and the lots of games = lots of action part;
gotta love that too

stevex · 04-14-11, 11:46 AM

In the mean time thought I'd let you guys know what systems I'm going to be using this MLB season while we wait for JM MLB!

1. -150 or greater Home Favorite Chase (on3 has a thread)
2. Shutout System (there is a thread)
3. JM MLB

I might add CRUSHER MLB starting in the month of May because that's when he usually gets hot and stays that way for about 3 months. Right now he is just basically back and forth, losing then winning. So keep an eye out for him.

soldier1047 · 04-14-11, 12:02 PM

TPS Backtest- (No injury filter and no +1.5 filter)

2010

Top 3
LA Angels- 19-2

Loses:
July 26-28 vs Boston Aug 27-29 vs. Baltimore
Boston Red Sox- 20-1

Losses:
April 16-19 vs. Tampa Bay
NY Yankees- 21-1

Losses:
May 19-20 vs. Tampa Bay
Bottom 3-

Baltimore Orioles

soldier1047 · 04-14-11, 12:17 PM

TPS Backtest- (No injury filter and no +1.5 filter)

2010

Top 3
LA Angels- 19-2

Loses:
July 26-28 vs Boston Aug 27-29 vs. Baltimore
Boston Red Sox- 20-1

Losses:
April 16-19 vs. Tampa Bay
NY Yankees- 21-1

Losses:
May 19-20 vs. Tampa Bay
Bottom 3-

Baltimore Orioles 19-2

Losses:

July 8-11 @ Texas
Aug 27-29 @ LA Angels

Pittsburgh Pirates 22-0

Washington Nationals 22-0

2009

Top 3 Teams

LA Angels- 21-0

Chicago Cubs 21-1

Aug 11-13 vs. Philadelphia

Tampa Bay- 20-0

Bottom 3

Washington Nationals- 21-0

Seattle Mariners- 20-1

Losses-
April 10-12 @ Oakland

San Diego Padres- 22-0

2008

Top 3

Boston Red Sox- 22-0

Cleveland Indians- 22-0

NY Yankees- 22-2

Losses:
April 29-May 1 vs. Detroit
May 16-18 @ NY Mets
LA Angels- 23-0

Bottom 3

Tampa Bay- 23-2

Losses-

June 24-26 @ Florida
Sept 22-24 @ Baltimore
Pittsburgh Pirates 20-2

Losses-

July 21-23 @ Houston
August 11 @ NY Mets

Kansas City- 18-4

Losses-

March 31- Apr 3 @ Detroit
June 17-19 @ St. Louis
July 28-30 @ Oakland
May 1-3 @ Cleveland

Conclusion- I don't see this as a great system. I have backtest it to 2003. I hope I can save ya some $ that could been lost (One year there was 11 losses!)

RAK · 04-14-11, 12:40 PM

Thanks for the info. Very useful.

Originally posted by soldier1047

TPS Backtest- (No injury filter and no +1.5 filter)

2010

Top 3
LA Angels- 19-2

Loses:
July 26-28 vs Boston Aug 27-29 vs. Baltimore
Boston Red Sox- 20-1

Losses:
April 16-19 vs. Tampa Bay
NY Yankees- 21-1

Losses:
May 19-20 vs. Tampa Bay
Bottom 3-

Baltimore Orioles 19-2

Losses:

July 8-11 @ Texas
Aug 27-29 @ LA Angels

Pittsburgh Pirates 22-0

Washington Nationals 22-0

2009

Top 3 Teams

LA Angels- 21-0

Chicago Cubs 21-1

Aug 11-13 vs. Philadelphia

Tampa Bay- 20-0

Bottom 3

Washington Nationals- 21-0

Seattle Mariners- 20-1

Losses-
April 10-12 @ Oakland

San Diego Padres- 22-0

2008

Top 3

Boston Red Sox- 22-0

Cleveland Indians- 22-0

NY Yankees- 22-2

Losses:
April 29-May 1 vs. Detroit
May 16-18 @ NY Mets
LA Angels- 23-0

Bottom 3

Tampa Bay- 23-2

Losses-

June 24-26 @ Florida
Sept 22-24 @ Baltimore
Pittsburgh Pirates 20-2

Losses-

July 21-23 @ Houston
August 11 @ NY Mets

Kansas City- 18-4

Losses-

March 31- Apr 3 @ Detroit
June 17-19 @ St. Louis
July 28-30 @ Oakland
May 1-3 @ Cleveland

Conclusion- I don't see this as a great system. I have backtest it to 2003. I hope I can save ya some $ that could been lost (One year there was 11 losses!)

stevex · 04-14-11, 12:48 PM

Stick to the systems that I mentioned above and will make plenty of money!

UCcats · 04-14-11, 02:17 PM

I am just posting to keep track of this thread. Can't wait till Wallco's system. Chase 110 made me a lot of money in NBA

ghislaine · 04-14-11, 02:47 PM

Originally posted by stevex

In the mean time thought I'd let you guys know what systems I'm going to be using this MLB season while we wait for JM MLB!

1. -150 or greater Home Favorite Chase (on3 has a thread)
2. Shutout System (there is a thread)
3. JM MLB

I might add CRUSHER MLB starting in the month of May because that's when he usually gets hot and stays that way for about 3 months. Right now he is just basically back and forth, losing then winning. So keep an eye out for him.

Thanks so much Stevex for sharing, looking into both 1. and 2. now as additional income sources

Used Crusher, but like I said, very up and down and like systems that have active threads !!
Thanks so much

ghislaine · 04-14-11, 03:10 PM

-150 or greater Home Favorite Chase seems good, easy to follow and profitable. Will also use that, thanks Stevex as well as Wallcos and JM.
Shutout System thread seems very cluttered and don`t really like the system, so sticking with Crusher instead.

stevex · 04-14-11, 04:51 PM

Yeh the Shutout system sort of reminds me of SOLOMANS NBA system where it's a 5-game chase. So you got to stick with it, but the A bets win for the most part so if your doing a labby your fine.

hagball52 · 04-14-11, 06:44 PM

Got another sweep to mark down on your JM calender. NYM @ COL starting 05/09/2011

stevex · 04-14-11, 07:59 PM

ghislaine, if you need me to explain the Shutout system for you just shoot me a PM or actually what I'll do is put an explanation in this thread to help you out a bit. The system is money, trust me.

ken23lau · 04-14-11, 08:57 PM

Originally posted by hagball52

Yeah I don't know what to do. I went to G's thread and he doesn't count an incomplete series as a loss so I kinda did the same but it doesn't really matter to me cause it's all about the money and not the record. So if you all think I should chalk it up as a loss then it's a loss. 19-3

If you want to report your record with honesty I think the most accepted option would be to put it as a push as mentioned above. It definitely can't be counted as a win though because the series lost twice and cancelled once, there's not even one single win. I still don't know how G came up with a win lol

UCcats · 04-14-11, 11:05 PM

Hey I bet on kc at -1.5 runs today and they won that but I guess the book I used said there was no action because they said it got rained out so I was wondering if this is normal

hagball52 · 04-14-11, 11:37 PM

Originally posted by ken23lau

If you want to report your record with honesty I think the most accepted option would be to put it as a push as mentioned above. It definitely can't be counted as a win though because the series lost twice and cancelled once, there's not even one single win. I still don't know how G came up with a win lol

I don't think he recorded it as a win but he didn't take the loss. Some people are finicky about their records. Last week I had 8 plays but one of them (BAL) got rained out on the first game so I dropped it and got my money back then it went on to win but I didn't count it and I stated that. So I went 7-0 instead of 8-0. No big deal. On the Boston series it's not really a push cause there was money lost if you were playing the series. I'm not so focused on the impeccable record as I am in just getting the wins to profit and show plus money at the end of the season. Maybe I'll make some kind of foot note to explain because losses in a chase series are usually pretty devastating. Any input is appreciated.

Wallco99 · 04-14-11, 11:42 PM

Originally posted by hagball52

I don't think he recorded it as a win but he didn't take the loss. Some people are finicky about their records. Last week I had 8 plays but one of them (BAL) got rained out on the first game so I dropped it and got my money back then it went on to win but I didn't count it and I stated that. So I went 7-0 instead of 8-0. No big deal. On the Boston series it's not really a push cause there was money lost if you were playing the series. I'm not so focused on the impeccable record as I am in just getting the wins to profit and show plus money at the end of the season. Maybe I'll make some kind of foot note to explain because losses in a chase series are usually pretty devastating. Any input is appreciated.

Amen to that! If I end a series with (-$1), and if I bet the series according to system rules and wager amounts, then I record it as a loss. If I lose money because I didn't play a (B) or (C) after an (A) loss, and that series wins (B) or (C), I record it as a win, even though my bankroll went down. There will be a lot of rainouts in baseball, you have to record a 1 unit loss in a series as 1 loss, same as you would count a 34 unit loss as 1 loss. The amount doesn't matter, it's whether the series put you up or down when concluded. Just my opinion, and how I will grade my system.

hagball52 · 04-14-11, 11:45 PM

Not looking good for the boys in blue tonight. I don't want to jump the gun but it looks like I'll go 2-2 tonight. Dang Twins had it in the bag but NO ! Anyway I'll have a few more plays tomorrow plus the [B] bets on the series that lost tonight. GL all