John Morrison 2011 MLB

shinnman · 04-15-11, 12:09 AM

Originally posted by UCcats

Hey I bet on kc at -1.5 runs today and they won that but I guess the book I used said there was no action because they said it got rained out so I was wondering if this is normal

ya i had kc m/l and -1.5 to bring it to kc-1. got paid on the m/l but no play on the -1.5, that is standard though

ghislaine · 04-15-11, 05:39 AM

Originally posted by stevex

ghislaine, if you need me to explain the Shutout system for you just shoot me a PM or actually what I'll do is put an explanation in this thread to help you out a bit. The system is money, trust me.

That would be cool

Just got put off by the thread, it was very cluttered and full of sniping littleminds

Might give it another try, I trust Your opinion !!!

ghislaine · 04-15-11, 06:05 AM

...aaand if You say a system is money, than thats what it is !!
And I like that

Wallco99 · 04-15-11, 08:11 AM

Originally posted by soldier1047

TPS Backtest- (No injury filter and no +1.5 filter)

2010

Top 3
LA Angels- 19-2

Loses:
July 26-28 vs Boston Aug 27-29 vs. Baltimore
Boston Red Sox- 20-1

Losses:
April 16-19 vs. Tampa Bay
NY Yankees- 21-1

Losses:
May 19-20 vs. Tampa Bay
Bottom 3-

Baltimore Orioles

Hey Mr. Soldier, any chance of sending me that data you said you had. I could really use a second set of lines today. Covers.com is too inconsistent. Thanks in advance. I sent my email in a PM.

hagball52 · 04-15-11, 09:07 AM

Went 2-2 last night. Series totals are now at 21-3 with 2 pending. Today the [B] bets will be on LAD and MIN. I'm starting 4 more series today. My Plays are MIL, CIN, TEX and BOS. I'm giving those red sox one more chance to show me what they got. GL all

hagball52 · 04-15-11, 09:17 AM

Originally posted by Wallco99

Amen to that! If I end a series with (-$1), and if I bet the series according to system rules and wager amounts, then I record it as a loss. If I lose money because I didn't play a (B) or (C) after an (A) loss, and that series wins (B) or (C), I record it as a win, even though my bankroll went down. There will be a lot of rainouts in baseball, you have to record a 1 unit loss in a series as 1 loss, same as you would count a 34 unit loss as 1 loss. The amount doesn't matter, it's whether the series put you up or down when concluded. Just my opinion, and how I will grade my system.

That makes sense. From time to time I might make a reference to incomplete series but going forward I will record them as losses. Thanks for the input.

soldier1047 · 04-15-11, 09:39 AM

Ok Wallco. I will send it today.

ghislaine · 04-15-11, 10:30 AM

BOL to us tonight !! Have had three weak nights now in a row, and have to compound and up the risk tomorrow if this is another losing night...
Got five games going, lets get that cash and heal the BK

repo08 · 04-15-11, 10:35 AM

Originally posted by 1gamer

I would like to hear a "sound off" of how many people on this thread have actually used and made money (Or lost money) on JM's MLB System? The reason I ask is that it amazes me how people will "trash" on a system they never before used (Especially against a proven money maker like Wallco)...I'm willing to bet most of the people following this thread have never even used JM's MLB system...
or Wallco's CHASE 110 for that matter... CASH IT!

I could not agree with you more!! I have gambled for a living for the last 20 years and I follow these kinds of sites because I love to keep up with what systems are hot and which ones are not! I rarely take the time to post anything but I have noticed a lot of haters all over the place lately!! And I’m with you, I would bet 90% of the people who get on here and hate don’t have the discipline it takes or the guts to make a C bet ½ of the time and that’s why they lose!! To answer your question I have played his system for a long time and made a lot of money!!! Some seasons have lost but by the end of the year I have shown a profit. Anybody who knows anything about gambling knows it’s not his system anyway and the system has been around longer than he has. And it is a good one!! They’re all going to lose! It not about the day but the month and year! Why I took the time to say this much I have no idea! 5 minutes of my life I won’t get back!

Kev the Brit · 04-15-11, 12:29 PM

90% of the people who get on here and hate don’t have the discipline it takes or the guts to make a C bet ½ of the time and that’s why they lose!!

And the main reason for their reluctance to play the C bet is that they were riding winning series risking too much of their bankroll. I'm risking 1%, compounded, and a C bet is not an issue. And if it loses, the lost amount is small enough to be divided up over the next few series, and targetted before the next failure rolls in.

I've already completely recovered from the Tampa Bay cock up on the 1st weekend.

Kev

Wallco99 · 04-15-11, 01:17 PM

Let me pose a question to this forum. If I was to get on here and say that I have created a baseball system that over the past five years has amassed 420 units, with one losing season during that five year period, would you see this as successful. Or, would that one losing season deem the whole sytem a failure. I have tried extensive backtests for the 2006 season, and nothing I do comes up positive. However, the past four seasons have been outstanding, as I posted yesterday. The 2006 season was bad, but I don't think it was as bad as I think, because I am working with incomplete data for that season, and guessing at several of the lines and who was actually favorites in some of the games. I am going to go back two more years to see if that season was a fluke. Even in Chase 110, we had one terrible season, but the 10 year backtest showed incredible results. I don't think there is any system out there that hasn't had a losing season at some point. There may be, but I would doubt it. If we are in this for the long haul, then this system has been nothing short of successful over a five year span. Even in the stock market, you will have that one year that takes away a good chunk of your profits. But if the other years make it up, then who cares. I really like the results I've gotten in recent years, and am curious of everyone's take and their opinion of such a system. I am assuming that since so many people followed Chase 110, that one bad year in the past doesn't affect the whole product, but that is for you all to decide.

ken23lau · 04-15-11, 01:31 PM

Originally posted by Wallco99

Let me pose a question to this forum. If I was to get on here and say that I have created a baseball system that over the past five years has amassed 420 units, with one losing season during that five year period, would you see this as successful. Or, would that one losing season deem the whole sytem a failure. I have tried extensive backtests for the 2006 season, and nothing I do comes up positive. However, the past four seasons have been outstanding, as I posted yesterday. The 2006 season was bad, but I don't think it was as bad as I think, because I am working with incomplete data for that season, and guessing at several of the lines and who was actually favorites in some of the games. I am going to go back two more years to see if that season was a fluke. Even in Chase 110, we had one terrible season, but the 10 year backtest showed incredible results. I don't think there is any system out there that hasn't had a losing season at some point. There may be, but I would doubt it. If we are in this for the long haul, then this system has been nothing short of successful over a five year span. Even in the stock market, you will have that one year that takes away a good chunk of your profits. But if the other years make it up, then who cares. I really like the results I've gotten in recent years, and am curious of everyone's take and their opinion of such a system. I am assuming that since so many people followed Chase 110, that one bad year in the past doesn't affect the whole product, but that is for you all to decide.

Let me answer you with my opinion. In the sports betting industry, all that matters to me is long run profits. In the short term there will be deviations from this long run trend, such as the losing season from your backtest. That's why one must always bet with a low risk to sustain the bankroll from those deviations. Now if you're making 420 units in 5 years, that's a pretty amazing long run profit and that's what matters which would approve it as an acceptable and profitable system. However, since you mentioned that the losses of 2006 were horrendous, I think what you need to test is to make sure that the average bettor that started at the beginning of the 2006 season that's wagering let's say (1% for A bet) can sustain the losses with his starting bankroll from that year and not go under.

soldier1047 · 04-15-11, 02:02 PM

A friend of mine sent the database to you, Wallco. You got it?

PanamaKid · 04-15-11, 02:02 PM

TPS Plays for 4/15

(A) Philadelphia Phillies -195 7:05PM EST

(A) Cincinnati Reds -180 7:10PM EST

stevex · 04-15-11, 02:13 PM

Big night for -150 Home Favorite System players and Shutout System as well has a few plays!

repo08 · 04-15-11, 02:52 PM

Originally posted by Wallco99

Let me pose a question to this forum. If I was to get on here and say that I have created a baseball system that over the past five years has amassed 420 units, with one losing season during that five year period, would you see this as successful. Or, would that one losing season deem the whole sytem a failure. I have tried extensive backtests for the 2006 season, and nothing I do comes up positive. However, the past four seasons have been outstanding, as I posted yesterday. The 2006 season was bad, but I don't think it was as bad as I think, because I am working with incomplete data for that season, and guessing at several of the lines and who was actually favorites in some of the games. I am going to go back two more years to see if that season was a fluke. Even in Chase 110, we had one terrible season, but the 10 year backtest showed incredible results. I don't think there is any system out there that hasn't had a losing season at some point. There may be, but I would doubt it. If we are in this for the long haul, then this system has been nothing short of successful over a five year span. Even in the stock market, you will have that one year that takes away a good chunk of your profits. But if the other years make it up, then who cares. I really like the results I've gotten in recent years, and am curious of everyone's take and their opinion of such a system. I am assuming that since so many people followed Chase 110, that one bad year in the past doesn't affect the whole product, but that is for you all to decide.

that one bad year in the past doesn't affect the whole product, but that is for you all to decide.[/quote

1gamer · 04-15-11, 03:10 PM

Originally posted by repo08

I could not agree with you more!! I have gambled for a living for the last 20 years and I follow these kinds of sites because I love to keep up with what systems are hot and which ones are not! I rarely take the time to post anything but I have noticed a lot of haters all over the place lately!! And I’m with you, I would bet 90% of the people who get on here and hate don’t have the discipline it takes or the guts to make a C bet ½ of the time and that’s why they lose!! To answer your question I have played his system for a long time and made a lot of money!!! Some seasons have lost but by the end of the year I have shown a profit. Anybody who knows anything about gambling knows it’s not his system anyway and the system has been around longer than he has. And it is a good one!! They’re all going to lose! It not about the day but the month and year! Why I took the time to say this much I have no idea! 5 minutes of my life I won’t get back!

I too...could not agree with you more...The haters have no "Skin In The Game"...so it's easy to hate.

For the record: Here's my betting history for (The system thought to be JM's) and Chase 110:

2009 MLB Season JM $4,000
2010 MLB Season JM ($1,000) (Not a good season)
2010/11 CHASE 110 $2,300 (Found the system halfway though the season)

NOW LET'S KICK SOME SERIOUS ASS THIS SEASON WITH (The system thought to be JM's) and Wallco's 1 losing season in 5 regular for +420.

CASH IT!

jcygts6 · 04-15-11, 04:27 PM

Dps system play 4/15 Oakland A's -134

xgame · 04-15-11, 04:35 PM

Originally posted by PanamaKid

TPS Plays for 4/15

(A) Philadelphia Phillies -195 7:05PM EST

(A) Cincinnati Reds -180 7:10PM EST

Just recomfirm, (A) this mean a bet right? thax

xgame · 04-15-11, 04:36 PM

Originally posted by jcygts6

Dps system play 4/15 Oakland A's -134

is this chasing system too?

jcygts6 · 04-15-11, 04:37 PM

It is 1st bet of a 3 game chase series

jcygts6 · 04-15-11, 04:38 PM

Dps is not a chasing system... Read back in the thread to see the rules.

jcygts6 · 04-15-11, 04:38 PM

But tps is a 3 game progression

xgame · 04-15-11, 04:43 PM

thank you!!! jcygts6

xgame · 04-15-11, 05:04 PM

Jcygts6 help, I can't find thread to see the rules for Dps.

mikey360 · 04-15-11, 05:04 PM

Originally posted by 1gamer

I too...could not agree with you more...The haters have no "Skin In The Game"...so it's easy to hate.

For the record: Here's my betting history for (The system thought to be JM's) and Chase 110:

2009 MLB Season JM $4,000
2010 MLB Season JM ($1,000) (Not a good season)
2010/11 CHASE 110 $2,300 (Found the system halfway though the season)

NOW LET'S KICK SOME SERIOUS ASS THIS SEASON WITH (The system thought to be JM's) and Wallco's 1 losing season in 5 regular for +420.

CASH IT!

Can you tell me what the Chase 110 system is, not heard of that one, thanks

HoulihansTX · 04-15-11, 05:45 PM

I cant believe people bet this shit.

stevex · 04-15-11, 05:46 PM

Houlihans, keep betting your monopoly money and stay out, thanks.

shinnman · 04-15-11, 06:06 PM

Originally posted by stevex

Houlihans, keep betting your monopoly money and stay out, thanks.

im with you man, haters stay out

PanamaKid · 04-15-11, 06:25 PM

Originally posted by xgame

Just recomfirm, (A) this mean a bet right? thax

Yes. It's the first bet in a 3 or 4 bet series.

Wallco99 · 04-15-11, 06:47 PM

Originally posted by soldier1047

A friend of mine sent the database to you, Wallco. You got it?

Yes, thank you.

jcygts6 · 04-15-11, 06:49 PM

Dps system is posted in this thread... Go back a few pages and you will see it

Wallco99 · 04-15-11, 06:52 PM

Originally posted by mikey360

Can you tell me what the Chase 110 system is, not heard of that one, thanks

It's mine for NBA, ask next season.

hagball52 · 04-15-11, 07:04 PM

Wallco, It sounds like you did your homework and the only way to really find out is to kick it in to gear and go with it. Just put a disclaimer on it for the fools who will blame you for losses. We're all big boys here and are responsible for our own wagers. If you were touting it and charging a hefty price that would be one thing but you're not and I think most of us are willing to come along for the ride.

smclaurin2 · 04-15-11, 07:25 PM

Wallco,