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  • floridagolfer
    SBR MVP
    • 12-19-08
    • 2757

    #1821
    Originally posted by toomer
    look this system is simple read the rules on the first page. I have been playing since the very beging of the season with bos/ny -1.5 run line up three units right now.Going for 4 since it was the rockies that opened.The rest can have fun with their extra filters that they want to add.
    I assume the only way you're going for four is if you played the opening day of the season when there was only one game on the schedule.
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    • floridagolfer
      SBR MVP
      • 12-19-08
      • 2757

      #1822
      Originally posted by IWinMyBets
      Early line showing NY Mets at -240 @ home vs. Washington.

      According to SBR numbers, the Mets opened at -230 and Colorado opened at -235. (I thought last year there was some kind of consensus that when looking at opening lines, SBR was the source, but maybe I'm mistaken.)
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      • do5000
        SBR Wise Guy
        • 06-06-08
        • 853

        #1823
        Originally posted by floridagolfer
        According to SBR numbers, the Mets opened at -230 and Colorado opened at -235. (I thought last year there was some kind of consensus that when looking at opening lines, SBR was the source, but maybe I'm mistaken.)
        i also remember that we used SBR for opening lines. although that definitely was debated.
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        • IWinMyBets
          Restricted User
          • 01-23-10
          • 106

          #1824
          For those who played this system last year, I'm all up for hearing what worked and what didn't work. There was a lot of discussion leading up to opening day...Many of the filters suggested over the past several weeks, was mentioned to improve on the areas where the risk could be avoided while increasing the reward.
          I personally have several different sportsbooks that I work from, and I went into each of them before I posted any early line.

          If everyone agrees that The SBR early line was the one that we should go with is the best, that is great by me. I simply want to see us get on a win streak with our ultimate choices.

          I do admire and respect everyones input and opinion here.

          After going through many past posts, I'm still leaning with playing both the Fav and second Fav. at which point I would be playing the Mets and Colorado.

          Best of Luck to all who are still watching and contributing to this system and this thread.
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          • VegasPlayer
            SBR MVP
            • 07-27-09
            • 3676

            #1825
            Thanks for the insight IWinMyBets. You saved me some reading. I played this last year with alot of success. There was some discussion in here last year about opening lines, but most of that occurred toward the end of the year when the lines were screwed up. I would tread lightly for a week or two as the opening lines should become pretty consistent by then. I definitely would not play in September for the obvious reasons - Skewed lines, lack of effort, call ups, etc.
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            • allenc85
              SBR Sharp
              • 03-26-10
              • 403

              #1826
              Iwin - I'm playing the top two favorites, and so far so good. I'm waiting until the chase goes to a C bet, then jumping in. Through one week I've gotten to play once in each of the chases, both winning on the D bet. After next week I'm going to start at the B bets, just figured now I should tread lightly.

              So far the Chase 1 (the highest opening ML) has won 3 series and Chase 2 has won 3 and is currently going to its B bet due to the Mets loss. I am determining the picks based on opening lines just because thats what all the back testing went off of.

              When there has been a tie I break the tie by team record (which right now doesn't hold too much value) and how stable the line is after opening. I figure if a team opens at -175 but is currently at -150 and another team opens at -175 and is at -170 the one at -170 would be the play, so long as they are both winning ball clubs.
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              • reverend
                SBR Wise Guy
                • 06-01-09
                • 880

                #1827
                I will be starting to play this system at some point during this week. I will keep my picks posted in my thread below, along with the 2 other systems I play.

                Good luck all
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                • bigdog56
                  SBR Rookie
                  • 09-28-09
                  • 4

                  #1828
                  Still looking for some help or feedback here. Anybody?

                  Guys, what are your thoughts on this angle? We know a team on the road is guaranteed more at bats than a team playing at home, which makes the probability to score more runs higher. In addition to looking at the highest ML home or away, what if we just looked for the highest ML Road team and played that on either the ML/-1/-1.5 line. Sometimes the largest ML favorite of the day will be + odds, which creates a great RL number. So far this is 3-1 on the year (3 A bet wins, 1 A bet loss, B pending today with Philly). Is it possible for somebody to back test this for the last couple years?
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                  • reverend
                    SBR Wise Guy
                    • 06-01-09
                    • 880

                    #1829
                    Originally posted by bigdog56
                    Still looking for some help or feedback here. Anybody?

                    Guys, what are your thoughts on this angle? We know a team on the road is guaranteed more at bats than a team playing at home, which makes the probability to score more runs higher. In addition to looking at the highest ML home or away, what if we just looked for the highest ML Road team and played that on either the ML/-1/-1.5 line. Sometimes the largest ML favorite of the day will be + odds, which creates a great RL number. So far this is 3-1 on the year (3 A bet wins, 1 A bet loss, B pending today with Philly). Is it possible for somebody to back test this for the last couple years?
                    that is a solid idea. worth looking into.

                    if the largest ML fav is on the road, then that is an even bigger sign that they should cash
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                    • IWinMyBets
                      Restricted User
                      • 01-23-10
                      • 106

                      #1830
                      Originally posted by allenc85
                      Iwin - I'm playing the top two favorites, and so far so good. I'm waiting until the chase goes to a C bet, then jumping in. Through one week I've gotten to play once in each of the chases, both winning on the D bet. After next week I'm going to start at the B bets, just figured now I should tread lightly.

                      So far the Chase 1 (the highest opening ML) has won 3 series and Chase 2 has won 3 and is currently going to its B bet due to the Mets loss. I am determining the picks based on opening lines just because thats what all the back testing went off of.

                      When there has been a tie I break the tie by team record (which right now doesn't hold too much value) and how stable the line is after opening. I figure if a team opens at -175 but is currently at -150 and another team opens at -175 and is at -170 the one at -170 would be the play, so long as they are both winning ball clubs.

                      Great AllenC,
                      I am going with the -1RL on all plays due the amount of Juice on these Favorite plays. That's why I had a few pushes during this past week of testing. I'm on a "D" bet with my fav's and an "A" bet with my second Fav.

                      And I am going very very easy this first week.

                      It's relatively easy to see that Philly will be my 'D" bet, and I'm leaning toward St. Louis for my second favorite 'A" play.

                      I'm also following "Reverends" plays on the Home/Away Sweep system, so I should be loaded up with action for Monday 4/12.

                      Thanks for your input. Best of luck to all.
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                      • press coverage
                        SBR Rookie
                        • 10-18-09
                        • 36

                        #1831
                        Originally posted by bigdog56
                        Still looking for some help or feedback here. Anybody?

                        Guys, what are your thoughts on this angle? We know a team on the road is guaranteed more at bats than a team playing at home, which makes the probability to score more runs higher. In addition to looking at the highest ML home or away, what if we just looked for the highest ML Road team and played that on either the ML/-1/-1.5 line. Sometimes the largest ML favorite of the day will be + odds, which creates a great RL number. So far this is 3-1 on the year (3 A bet wins, 1 A bet loss, B pending today with Philly). Is it possible for somebody to back test this for the last couple years?
                        I ran the #'s from opening day 2009 through August 31st 2009. Couple of things to note: 1) If there was a tie between 2 teams with the highest opening odds, I used the team that had the most favorable RL odds & 2) if 2 teams had the same opening odds and RL odds, but had different results, I used the team that LOST (figuring that I would have picked the wrong team, plus it gives us the worst case scenario).

                        Here are the results using a -1 RL:

                        Gm 1: 31-0
                        Gm 2: 19-0
                        Gm 3: 7-0
                        Gm 4: 6-0
                        Gm 5: 1-0
                        Gm 6: 1-0
                        Total: 65-0
                        Overall record: 65-61-19

                        Here are the results using the -1.5 RL:
                        Gm 1: 27-0
                        Gm 2: 19-0
                        Gm 3: 9-0
                        Gm 4: 4-0
                        Gm 5: 5-0
                        Gm 6: 1-1
                        Total: 65-1
                        Overall record: 65-80-0

                        So, as you can see using the -1.5 RL would have had 1 series loss (from May 17 through May 24 there were 8 losses in a row; however during this time there were 3 scratches using the -1 RL, which allowed for the -1 RL series win).

                        Remember this is only 1 year of data, so take that for what it's worth. I don't think that it is worth it to play this given that you will need a much bigger bankroll because you will go deeper into the series and accordingly you will not have as many series wins as you get playing the overall favorite -1 RL.

                        PC
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                        • SantiagoJoe
                          SBR Rookie
                          • 08-24-09
                          • 13

                          #1832
                          Favorite Accuscore Home Team Chase

                          Gents,

                          For those that are interested, I have been following the highest Accuscore home ground favourites for the last few days as proposed by (I think it was) TheBestThereIs.

                          TheBestThereIs said that for the last 2 years it had not gone to a 6 game chase - well it has this year.

                          Tracking from 5th April, you would have had 2 straight wins (Diamonbacks and Brewers) then there has been a 6 game chase as below

                          7th April - Chicago White Sox (Decimal odds = 2.43 on the -1.5 runline) - Lost
                          8th April - Texas Rangers (Decimal Odds = 2.40 on the -1.5 runline) - Lost
                          9th April - Baltimore Orioles (Decimal Odds = 2.35 on the -1.5 runline) - Lost
                          10th April - Arizona Diamondbacks (Decimal Odds = 1.87 on the -1.5 runline) - Lost
                          11th April - Detroit Tigers (Decimal Odds = 2.10 on the -1.5 runline) - Lost
                          12th April - St Louis Cardinals (Decimal Odds = 1.910 on the -1.5 runline) - Won

                          So on the 6th wager I had 32.7 units on the line to win one unit. Using 1% of my bank roll for the initial 'To win' amount, the 6th wager was 44.2% of the remaining bankroll after the initial 2 wins and the subsequent 5 losses.

                          Cripes I wouldn't want that to happen too often in a year.

                          Cheers
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                          • SantiagoJoe
                            SBR Rookie
                            • 08-24-09
                            • 13

                            #1833
                            TheBestThereIs... Are you still in this forum? You said that you were going to post your back-testing for the last 2 years for using the highest home ground favourite as decided by Accuscore for the pick for the day..

                            Any chance that you can post it?

                            Cheers


                            Jason
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                            • allenc85
                              SBR Sharp
                              • 03-26-10
                              • 403

                              #1834
                              I got the Giants as the play Tuesday, and for those interested the Dodgers as the 2nd, both are A bets. I'm waiting until either reaches a C bet for one more week, then I'm going to begin entering at B bets.
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                              • do5000
                                SBR Wise Guy
                                • 06-06-08
                                • 853

                                #1835
                                Originally posted by allenc85
                                I got the Giants as the play Tuesday, and for those interested the Dodgers as the 2nd, both are A bets. I'm waiting until either reaches a C bet for one more week, then I'm going to begin entering at B bets.
                                Giants at home again, looks good.
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                                • fjordo
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 11-26-09
                                  • 1298

                                  #1836
                                  So far, the biggest favourite of the day is doing well IMO. I have it at...

                                  On the ML, 7-0 as chase, longest going to a C game.

                                  On the -1RL, 5-0-2 as chase, longest going to a C game.

                                  On the -1.5RL, 5-0 as chase, longest going to a D game.

                                  I'm interested to know if anyone has some stats on how a -2RL, or -2.5RL would have done in the past. Also interested in how the highest road favourite of the day has done on the -1.5RL.
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                                  • IWinMyBets
                                    Restricted User
                                    • 01-23-10
                                    • 106

                                    #1837
                                    FAV2 Dodgers Win. Could have gone with -3.5RL
                                    FAV1 Go Giants .

                                    BOL to All
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                                    • IWinMyBets
                                      Restricted User
                                      • 01-23-10
                                      • 106

                                      #1838
                                      This is the Sportsbook.com line. Will cross check with SBR Book.

                                      Early Line for Wednesday.
                                      Philly -240 FAV1
                                      St. Louis -210 FAV2

                                      Yankees -210 at home vs. Angels. I feel the St. Louis matchup is the better play for a FAV2.
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                                      • mminkovski
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 06-22-07
                                        • 1077

                                        #1839
                                        Philly is the biggest favorite today
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                                        • floridagolfer
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 12-19-08
                                          • 2757

                                          #1840
                                          Originally posted by fjordo
                                          So far, the biggest favourite of the day is doing well IMO. I have it at...

                                          On the ML, 7-0 as chase, longest going to a C game.

                                          On the -1RL, 5-0-2 as chase, longest going to a C game.

                                          On the -1.5RL, 5-0 as chase, longest going to a D game.

                                          I'm interested to know if anyone has some stats on how a -2RL, or -2.5RL would have done in the past. Also interested in how the highest road favourite of the day has done on the -1.5RL.
                                          I have the -1.5 as 4-0 on the chase, but that's a very minor accounting difference. I did not include the Sunday night opener to the season when there was only one game on the schedule; technically, there can't be a "biggest" favorite when there's only one game. Regardless, it's smooth sailing thus far.
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                                          • allenc85
                                            SBR Sharp
                                            • 03-26-10
                                            • 403

                                            #1841
                                            Originally posted by IWinMyBets
                                            This is the Sportsbook.com line. Will cross check with SBR Book.

                                            Early Line for Wednesday.
                                            Philly -240 FAV1
                                            St. Louis -210 FAV2

                                            Yankees -210 at home vs. Angels. I feel the St. Louis matchup is the better play for a FAV2.
                                            Highest 2 opening lines I have from SBRodds is the Phillies @ -230 and the Rockies @ -210, with the Cards @ -188 & the Yanks @ -180... now the Cards are -220, Philly -210, the Yanks -201 & Rockies -179...

                                            So just to continue what I have done so far, which is take the opening line (I've used SBRodds every time thus far), and since the opening line was clear cut Phils & Rockies (and also since the Chase 2 is on an A bet) I'm going to ride them. I think personally the Cardinals & Phillies are clearly the top two plays, but I'm going to stick to what I've been doing.
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                                            • IWinMyBets
                                              Restricted User
                                              • 01-23-10
                                              • 106

                                              #1842
                                              Philly covered for us no matter if we went with -1RL or -1.5RL. Personally, I've been playing the -1RL from the beginning. Since I chose St. Louis as my FAV2 play, I ended up with a push on that 2-1 win. This puts me at 6 wins and 0 losses during my "testing" period. I've been risking $5 on the A bet...$15 on the B bet...and $35 on the C bet. All at -1RL.
                                              It looks like it might be time to boost up the UNIT size a bit to take advantage of what seems to be a plausible system to me.
                                              Best of Luck to All.
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                                              • allenc85
                                                SBR Sharp
                                                • 03-26-10
                                                • 403

                                                #1843
                                                Well, Phillies win and both Rockies and Cards lose/push (only won by one)... So, according to SBR I got Phillies, again, Chase 1 @ -1.5 (-120) and Chase 2 Cardinals -1.5 (-105), Chase 1 being an A bet and Chase 2 being a B bet if -1.5 RL or A bet if playing -1 RL.
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                                                • allenc85
                                                  SBR Sharp
                                                  • 03-26-10
                                                  • 403

                                                  #1844
                                                  I've been testing the top two with the first being -1.5RL and the second being a -1RL @ $10/units... so far the most you would have had invested would have been when Chase 1 went to a D and Chase 2 went to a C, and you would have had about $235 tied up. Would have hate to see what that would have looked like if both lost and went to an E and D bet.
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                                                  • IWinMyBets
                                                    Restricted User
                                                    • 01-23-10
                                                    • 106

                                                    #1845
                                                    Originally posted by allenc85
                                                    Well, Phillies win and both Rockies and Cards lose/push (only won by one)... So, according to SBR I got Phillies, again, Chase 1 @ -1.5 (-120) and Chase 2 Cardinals -1.5 (-105), Chase 1 being an A bet and Chase 2 being a B bet if -1.5 RL or A bet if playing -1 RL.

                                                    I Agree.
                                                    FAV1 Philly
                                                    FAV2 Cards

                                                    Don't forget if you have a push on the -1RL there is no Chase. You just start back at the A bet. At -1.5 then you would proceed with a B bet.

                                                    Good Luck to All

                                                    Sorry Allen, I mis-read. You have it exactly correct.
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                                                    • do5000
                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                      • 06-06-08
                                                      • 853

                                                      #1846
                                                      Lasts nights philly game was crazy. let's hope for another 7-run margin this afternoon.
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                                                      • reverend
                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                        • 06-01-09
                                                        • 880

                                                        #1847
                                                        looking good guys.

                                                        i am going to start this soon inside my thread.

                                                        let do this!
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                                                        • bsebal7
                                                          SBR Hustler
                                                          • 04-03-09
                                                          • 71

                                                          #1848
                                                          Great job gentlemen!! This thing has turned into a monster.... Let's get it going!!!
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                                                          • thebestthereis
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 03-01-09
                                                            • 11459

                                                            #1849
                                                            Originally posted by SantiagoJoe
                                                            TheBestThereIs... Are you still in this forum? You said that you were going to post your back-testing for the last 2 years for using the highest home ground favourite as decided by Accuscore for the pick for the day..

                                                            Any chance that you can post it?

                                                            Cheers


                                                            Jason
                                                            I haven't been here for a bit now. I don't have accuscore anymore but espn.com has these for free in the mlb previews. You would take the highest % favorite at home. Sorry for not posting.
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                                                            • Petman
                                                              SBR Rookie
                                                              • 03-19-10
                                                              • 42

                                                              #1850
                                                              Hmmm, like I needed another reason to play...
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                                                              • floridagolfer
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 12-19-08
                                                                • 2757

                                                                #1851
                                                                For Friday, St. Louis (-250) gets the slight nod over Philadelphia (-240). Good luck to all.

                                                                Only three more days on the sidelines for those of us who aren't playing the first and last two weeks of the season.
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                                                                • do5000
                                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                                  • 06-06-08
                                                                  • 853

                                                                  #1852
                                                                  Originally posted by floridagolfer
                                                                  For Friday, St. Louis (-250) gets the slight nod over Philadelphia (-240). Good luck to all.

                                                                  Only three more days on the sidelines for those of us who aren't playing the first and last two weeks of the season.
                                                                  STL it is. although its tough to NOT bet on Halladay at home.
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                                                                  • allenc85
                                                                    SBR Sharp
                                                                    • 03-26-10
                                                                    • 403

                                                                    #1853
                                                                    Both Chase 1 & Chase 2 on B bets, her we go Cards & Philly
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                                                                    • floridagolfer
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 12-19-08
                                                                      • 2757

                                                                      #1854
                                                                      Originally posted by do5000
                                                                      STL it is. although its tough to NOT bet on Halladay at home.
                                                                      Of course Halladay at home looks like a cinch, but at that steep price, I'd be inclined to bet it -1.5 and hope for the best.
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                                                                      • mminkovski
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 06-22-07
                                                                        • 1077

                                                                        #1855
                                                                        OK, whoever backed STL get a C bet on the Yankees today
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