Betfair $3.1 million slow-pay and other pro player issues (Video)

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  • yokspot
    SBR Sharp
    • 11-16-05
    • 287

    #491
    So now what? I understand youre Latvian, are you going to sue Kacharava in Russia? With 3.1 million to play with you have a great shot. I see no point in suing Betfair in Malta, however.
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    • bettilimbroke999
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 02-04-08
      • 13254

      #492
      Well anyway I hope you get your money but it seems like Betfair and Kacharava are ******* you. I dont know why you're not taking legal action as it seems like the only way you will be paid at this point and an obvious choice with so much money at stake but Im sure you have reasons you want to keep it out of court and I can understand you not wanting to share them with a public internet forum.
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      • anty
        SBR Hustler
        • 02-27-06
        • 64

        #493
        Originally posted by yokspot
        So now what? I understand youre Latvian, are you going to sue Kacharava in Russia? With 3.1 million to play with you have a great shot. I see no point in suing Betfair in Malta, however.
        No, I am Russian, just my account is in Latvian bank. I can't say at the moment what I am going to do, my friends are working on different solutions.
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        • Dark Horse
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 12-14-05
          • 13764

          #494
          Incredible. Imagine Vegas trying to pull one like this.

          Just take them to court, get your money, and preferably land some of these BF criminals in jail.
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          • Hybris
            SBR MVP
            • 07-22-09
            • 1023

            #495
            Betfair need some real competition. This is getting out of hand.
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            • kkkkk
              SBR Wise Guy
              • 03-30-09
              • 523

              #496
              Originally posted by Hybris
              Betfair need some real competition. This is getting out of hand.
              +1
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              • yokspot
                SBR Sharp
                • 11-16-05
                • 287

                #497
                And..?

                Betfair still rated "A" at SBR. Sorry, this makes a mockery of SBR ratings. Betfair tried to claw back millions from the Happy Hour, now 3.1 million from ONE punter? This is a joke. What does a book have to do to go as low as, say, B+? Bomb the SBR offices and violate John from behind? C'mon, people.

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                • tommygun
                  SBR MVP
                  • 07-01-10
                  • 2239

                  #498
                  those that play at betfair know it is A+
                  BETTING EXCHANGES, easy money.

                  Soccer Tipping: 5-0-1
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                  • jjgold
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 07-20-05
                    • 388179

                    #499
                    There is no competition and never will be

                    Betfair has everyone by the ballls
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                    • LineCle
                      SBR Rookie
                      • 08-09-11
                      • 39

                      #500
                      Originally posted by the sink
                      I still don't understand what a masters-account is...
                      Why didnt u use moneybookers?
                      I don't think its any better than betfair
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                      • LineCle
                        SBR Rookie
                        • 08-09-11
                        • 39

                        #501
                        Originally posted by jjgold
                        This whole thing is bizarre
                        So I guess betfair got a kick back from this 3rd party for not paying you
                        unreal
                        I think so. maybe should give more time perhaps?
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                        • LineCle
                          SBR Rookie
                          • 08-09-11
                          • 39

                          #502
                          Originally posted by tommygun
                          those that play at betfair know it is A+
                          Yes it is.
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                          • marcojuiceman
                            SBR MVP
                            • 05-25-11
                            • 2870

                            #503
                            so he hasnt received even a dime?
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                            • Dark Horse
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 12-14-05
                              • 13764

                              #504
                              Originally posted by tommygun
                              those that play at betfair know it is A+
                              They pay you with the money they skimmed off the rich. A+ssholes.
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                              • yokspot
                                SBR Sharp
                                • 11-16-05
                                • 287

                                #505
                                Well, this is at least worth bumping.
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                                • SportsMushroom
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 09-28-10
                                  • 4177

                                  #506
                                  Originally posted by yokspot
                                  Well, this is at least worth bumping.
                                  yeap, hopefully this will keep some people from giving money to those crooks at betfair
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                                  • sharpcat
                                    Restricted User
                                    • 12-19-09
                                    • 4516

                                    #507
                                    Amazing that they did the exact same thing as Easystreet is accused of here except they fukked multiple players but somehow their rating did not drop.
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                                    • YorkHunt
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 12-11-10
                                      • 7496

                                      #508
                                      Originally posted by sharpcat
                                      Amazing that they did the exact same thing as Easystreet is accused of here except they fukked multiple players but somehow their rating did not drop.
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                                      • in play, run(s)
                                        SBR Sharp
                                        • 06-10-09
                                        • 270

                                        #509
                                        They fuked other players too... google for betfair casino scam

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                                        • sharpcircle
                                          SBR Sharp
                                          • 02-05-11
                                          • 308

                                          #510
                                          So SBR must have changed their grade after this right....

                                          if not lol at watchdog rep
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                                          • sportsfanatic
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 03-10-07
                                            • 3967

                                            #511
                                            Originally posted by pokernut9999
                                            Hell yea , if I am going to win 3.1 million I will not play there


                                            Thanks SBR
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                                            • yokspot
                                              SBR Sharp
                                              • 11-16-05
                                              • 287

                                              #512
                                              Originally posted by anty
                                              No, I am Russian, just my account is in Latvian bank. I can't say at the moment what I am going to do, my friends are working on different solutions.
                                              Is there any movement? Legal action in the pipeline? You obviously have an powerful case.

                                              This is the biggest individual theft I've heard of to date, and by a long way. I thought people at Full Tilt owed six figures had it bad, but that's nothing in comparison.
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                                              • jjgold
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 07-20-05
                                                • 388179

                                                #513
                                                Betfair does not care because there is zero competition
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                                                • sharpcircle
                                                  SBR Sharp
                                                  • 02-05-11
                                                  • 308

                                                  #514
                                                  jjgold,

                                                  Why doesn't SBR care?
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                                                  • sportsfanatic
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 03-10-07
                                                    • 3967

                                                    #515
                                                    sigh, i wish i was a millionaire...

                                                    oh well, going to the sbr points casino to make my dreams come true!
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                                                    • anty
                                                      SBR Hustler
                                                      • 02-27-06
                                                      • 64

                                                      #516
                                                      Originally posted by yokspot
                                                      Is there any movement? Legal action in the pipeline? You obviously have an powerful case.

                                                      This is the biggest individual theft I've heard of to date, and by a long way. I thought people at Full Tilt owed six figures had it bad, but that's nothing in comparison.
                                                      No movement at all from the cheats part. Betfair continue to keep silence on the matter and PSP refuse to pay and do all the dirty tricks like blackmailing me to sign a paper in which I would give up on money. Funny guys...
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                                                      • pjesnik24
                                                        Restricted User
                                                        • 11-01-05
                                                        • 1286

                                                        #517
                                                        Originally posted by sharpcircle
                                                        jjgold,

                                                        Why doesn't SBR care?
                                                        good question
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                                                        • xasapidis
                                                          SBR Rookie
                                                          • 06-03-09
                                                          • 22

                                                          #518
                                                          really strange story...first of all this thing about laying real and barca is crazy and i am not sure i believe it but anyway i dont understand why u use latvian bank and why u dont use mb and messed with all these master accounts and all this shit...you should call them before withdrawing to sugest you the best solution...i dont believe its betfair fault maybe 10% only but i still believe u will get paid once...
                                                          betfair pays every normal player(even and big professionals) and very fast..about premium charges this is a way to ban those very profitable traders who make small players leave because of losing all the time causing bf big damage cuz they pay millions in advertisments in order to atract again new small players...of course they dont have any problem with very profitable simple players but they have with traders this is the purpose of this premium charge
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                                                          • kkkkk
                                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                                            • 03-30-09
                                                            • 523

                                                            #519
                                                            Originally posted by xasapidis
                                                            really strange story...first of all this thing about laying real and barca is crazy and i am not sure i believe it but anyway i dont understand why u use latvian bank and why u dont use mb and messed with all these master accounts and all this shit...you should call them before withdrawing to sugest you the best solution...i dont believe its betfair fault maybe 10% only but i still believe u will get paid once...
                                                            betfair pays every normal player(even and big professionals) and very fast..about premium charges this is a way to ban those very profitable traders who make small players leave because of losing all the time causing bf big damage cuz they pay millions in advertisments in order to atract again new small players...of course they dont have any problem with very profitable simple players but they have with traders this is the purpose of this premium charge
                                                            absolutely wrong. imho his only fault in this story was he waited so long to make a withdraw. if i was him i would have done many small withdraws every week, cose i dont think you need his all balance to bet. let say if his balance was 500k at some time, i would have withdrawn at least 100k.
                                                            second he never stated he laid Barca ML, there are at least 20 other type of bets. F.e. if Barca host Bilbao normal odds should be 1.10. But there are also AH bet. Let say Barca is -1.75AH. So Barca might have won 2-1 and AH wasnt covered. Barca had i think 30 wins, so ML betting should have been hard, but AH or totals can bring a lot money.
                                                            third about betting and trading. There are a lot markets where market is ded. Once i have done 15k bet of 30k for whole game. If it wasnt me or other trader, there will never be a Volume and Charges for Betfair.
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                                                            • xasapidis
                                                              SBR Rookie
                                                              • 06-03-09
                                                              • 22

                                                              #520
                                                              they propably prefer to miss this liquidityeven if some markets have only a few money matched(but real money with real profit for them) its complicated they have obviously counted evth and concluded that they dont want professional traders especialy those who use bots they are their main target as i know...
                                                              for the rstory of the russian guy i insist that it is strange story and as you said its not normal to leave so big amount in you account for any reason...betfair is a good tool i hape that betdaq will grow so that bf decrease its commissions(although i am at 2% and its ok ) but i believe that big players who play with 2% or even 1.5% if they r smart dont need to go anywhere else...(at the moment)
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                                                              • *Torches*
                                                                Restricted User
                                                                • 08-13-11
                                                                • 92

                                                                #521
                                                                Good one for those using betfair
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                                                                • *Torches*
                                                                  Restricted User
                                                                  • 08-13-11
                                                                  • 92

                                                                  #522
                                                                  Originally posted by pjesnik24
                                                                  good question
                                                                  there is an unexplained answer to it
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                                                                  • yokspot
                                                                    SBR Sharp
                                                                    • 11-16-05
                                                                    • 287

                                                                    #523
                                                                    Originally posted by anty
                                                                    No movement at all from the cheats part. Betfair continue to keep silence on the matter and PSP refuse to pay and do all the dirty tricks like blackmailing me to sign a paper in which I would give up on money. Funny guys...
                                                                    Are you not taking legal action against Kacharava? Sue this f*****g Russian mobster's ass, the partial payment you received totally vindicates you as far as I can see.
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                                                                    • nenad
                                                                      Restricted User
                                                                      • 08-12-09
                                                                      • 714

                                                                      #524
                                                                      wow 3 milion at a time withdraw i dont think its possible
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                                                                      • Ace_of_Spades
                                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                                        • 10-14-09
                                                                        • 13518

                                                                        #525
                                                                        Been with Betfair for years and had no problems. If Betfair do go down hill, Betdaq will gladly open their doors for Betfair players.
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