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  • Extra Innings
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 02-26-10
    • 15058

    #141
    Wow...they just deleted 2 pages after that post
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    • Eleven
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 02-07-09
      • 730

      #142
      A third arbitrator should get called upon and act as a tie-breaker.
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      • LegitBet
        Restricted User
        • 05-25-10
        • 538

        #143
        Very impressive.
        I think the name of the expert is not as important as is his response to each and every one of Justin7's points.
        "long live the polo logo!"
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        • slash
          SBR MVP
          • 08-10-05
          • 1000

          #144
          Originally posted by Eleven
          A third arbitrator should get called upon and act as a tie-breaker.
          A third? As far as I know, only Justin has mediated this case...
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          • darrell74
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 04-16-07
            • 14648

            #145
            Looks like easy street just took a big public relations hit

            Do they have any affiliated books?

            Is Cory gonna get his money?
            When is the software company gonna display the results of the royals?

            I'd like to know how this ends.
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            • Grandmaster B
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 09-05-09
              • 6035

              #146
              Originally posted by Justin7
              A nice effort, which will likely be rewarded by deleting your post and putting you on post review. You'll always be free to post here though
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              • Dark Horse
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 12-14-05
                • 13764

                #147
                Before taking sides, more should be known about the charge back history of this player. I personally feel that a player who does charge backs gives up his rights to fair settlements. Why would I care if a thief runs into another thief? This player is just as D- as the book. They deserve each other. If he already knew he would do a charge back if he lost, he could take far greater risks, so the 46K is a disproportional amount in winnings. The fact that he admitted to doing charge backs does not suddenly make him an honest player. And the fact that he won big at other casinos only underscores that point. This guy is a hit-or-miss type of player, who charges back after a miss. I don't really understand why such a crucial point is so easily overlooked here. It is at least as important as the cheating by the book. I also think it is completely fair for books to share info on which players have done charge backs. Such players should be blacklisted.
                Last edited by Dark Horse; 04-09-11, 06:03 AM.
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                • Monte
                  SBR MVP
                  • 08-21-10
                  • 2056

                  #148
                  TheRx are the biggest bunch of assholes i ever came across on the internet.
                  Having SBG Global as sponsor for years and years now, deleting posts as they wish, but talking about honesty and helping people out.
                  Those ppl only deserve one thing - and that is being locked into a ******* jail cell.
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                  • shari91
                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                    • 02-23-10
                    • 32661

                    #149
                    Originally posted by Dark Horse
                    Before taking sides, more should be known about the charge back history of this player. I personally feel that a player who does charge backs gives up his rights to fair settlements. Why would I care if a thief runs into another thief? This player is just as D- as the book. They deserve each other. If he already knew he would do a charge back if he lost, he could take far greater risks, so the 46K is a disproportional amount in winnings. The fact that he admitted to doing charge backs does not suddenly make him an honest player. I don't really understand why such a crucial point is so easily overlooked here. It is at least as important as the cheating by the book. I also think it is completely fair for books to share info on which players have done charge backs. Such players should be blacklisted.
                    In this case there wasn't any possibility of Cory doing a charge back. His deposits were all made in cash. That's why the issue has been deemed moot in this case.
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                    • MBENZ
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 01-07-07
                      • 5238

                      #150
                      Originally posted by Dark Horse
                      Before taking sides, more should be known about the charge back history of this player. I personally feel that a player who does charge backs gives up his rights to fair settlements. Why would I care if a thief runs into another thief? This player is just as D- as the book. They deserve each other. If he already knew he would do a charge back if he lost, he could take far greater risks, so the 46K is a disproportional amount in winnings. The fact that he admitted to doing charge backs does not suddenly make him an honest player. I don't really understand why such a crucial point is so easily overlooked here. It is at least as important as the cheating by the book.

                      How do you ********** cash deposits?I know he isn't snow white but this should only be judged on the facts of this case and this case alone.This outfit will be exposed for what they are before this is over.
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                      • Dark Horse
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 12-14-05
                        • 13764

                        #151
                        Originally posted by shari91
                        In this case there wasn't any possibility of Cory doing a charge back. His deposits were all made in cash. That's why the issue has been deemed moot in this case.
                        He's still a thief for the other charge backs, which puts him in the same boat as the stealing book. We don't know how much money this guy owes other books. And until that is clear it is too early to consider that history irrelevant. What goes around comes around type of 'justice'. To illustrate. If he won 26K somewhere else with a hit or miss strategy (charging back for the misses), is that 26K still his money? And does a cash deposit from those winnings qualify as his money? Nothing is isolated here. I would consider all of this as stolen money. A sh*t book and a sh*t player. F*ck them both.
                        Last edited by Dark Horse; 04-09-11, 06:13 AM.
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                        • shari91
                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                          • 02-23-10
                          • 32661

                          #152
                          Originally posted by Dark Horse
                          He's still a thief for the other charge backs, which puts him in the same boat as the stealing book. We don't know how much money this guy owes other books. And until that is clear it is too early to consider that history irrelevant. What goes around comes around type of 'justice'.
                          I understand what you're saying but I guess I got confused with your post, as it appears MBenz did, by this statement:

                          "If he already knew he would do a charge back if he lost, he could take far greater risks, so the 46K is a disproportional amount in winnings."

                          I was just explaining that he couldn't have done a charge back if he lost as there was nothing to charge back here.
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                          • Santo
                            SBR MVP
                            • 09-08-05
                            • 2957

                            #153
                            We know they were P2P (as brands are blocked), but do we know they were cash? RX posters claim you can ********** a P2P CC deposit...
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                            • Dark Horse
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 12-14-05
                              • 13764

                              #154
                              Originally posted by shari91
                              I understand what you're saying but I guess I got confused with your post, as it appears MBenz did, by this statement:

                              "If he already knew he would do a charge back if he lost, he could take far greater risks, so the 46K is a disproportional amount in winnings."

                              I was just explaining that he couldn't have done a charge back if he lost as there was nothing to charge back here.
                              Does that matter? Those cash deposits could be entirely made up of stolen funds (see addition to my above post)?
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                              • Fishhead
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 08-11-05
                                • 40179

                                #155
                                WALT DISNEY himself would have had a difficult time coming up with this.....................Geezus H. Crickets



                                Now that we have a resolution of this issue, EasyStreetSports moving forward is pleased to announce that we will be having a CR VIDEO POKER CONTEST

                                The reason for this contest is to show the public that this was never about the money, but the principle of running a fair operation for all players.

                                This contest will be held in Costa Rica at an announced venue and the chosen contestants will have their expenses paid.


                                Total cash awards could exceed $46,000.

                                * The Contest will be held in beautiful Costa Rica.
                                * A total of 6 contestants will be chosen to participate.
                                * 3 posters from the RX & 3 posters from SBR.
                                * To be eligible for this event, posters must have at least 1000 posts prior to March 1st.
                                * Contestants must have registered for an Easy Street account, but no deposit is required.
                                * Selected contestants will receive round trip airfare, hotel accommodations and transportation to and from the event.
                                * Local forum moderators will be invited to observe the contest.
                                * The contest venue will be made public.
                                * Overall Winner will receive 10,000 in Cash!
                                * 2nd through 6th place will ALL walk away with prizes.



                                Stay tuned for the full details to be posted next week.


                                Full details of the contest and the rules will be posted soon, so please stay tuned.
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                                • Eleven
                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                  • 02-07-09
                                  • 730

                                  #156
                                  Originally posted by slash
                                  A third? As far as I know, only Justin has mediated this case...
                                  Its like politics now, anybody who has an opinion is accused of having a dog in the race, so finding someone who doesnt have a dog in the race is what Im saying, a watchdog cant have sponsors. I dont care either way, I stick to british books anyway, and this fiasco only reinforces my stance.
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                                  • Fishhead
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 08-11-05
                                    • 40179

                                    #157
                                    Originally posted by Eleven
                                    Its like politics now, anybody who has an opinion is accused of having a dog in the race, so finding someone who doesnt have a dog in the race is what Im saying, a watchdog cant have sponsors. I dont care either way, I stick to british books anyway, and this fiasco only reinforces my stance.

                                    Hundreds, and probably thousands, have viewed ALL THE EVIDENCE that has been made public and over 90% are siding with the player...................I think that's a pretty damn good 3RD PARTY in itself.
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                                    • shari91
                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                      • 02-23-10
                                      • 32661

                                      #158
                                      Originally posted by Dark Horse
                                      Does that matter? Those cash deposits could be entirely made up of stolen funds (see addition to my above post)?
                                      You're right, they definitely could have been if Cory did indeed do all or some of the charge backs that he's rumoured to have done.

                                      I'm a very big believer in karma. But I think this would have sat better with me if Alex or Marvin had come out and said "The guy has scammed xx, xx, xx, xx books (and provided proof of this) so we decided to freeroll his 11 deposits with no intention of paying out if he won."

                                      But they didn't say that. Instead you have Wilheim going on about this guy's past and a few posters here who are rather vocal in their support of EasyStreet.

                                      So if the book itself isn't saying that this is their reason for non payment, I don't see how his past should be considered a factor. The reasons for their non payment should be analysed and obviously proven on their end, regardless of what fellow posters may think of him as a person.

                                      Although again - I do believe each of us reaps what we sow in this world.
                                      Last edited by shari91; 04-09-11, 07:13 AM.
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                                      • MBENZ
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 01-07-07
                                        • 5238

                                        #159
                                        Since EZ sees fit to withhold a players money as they conclude is a fraud,why don't they use that money to pay the credit players they defrauded instead of holding some stupid contest.An RX mod openly admitted that they have credit players that were stiffed.This place reeks and anybody that deposits and gets stiffed now deserves it.
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                                        • Fishhead
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 08-11-05
                                          • 40179

                                          #160
                                          Originally posted by MBENZ
                                          Since EZ sees fit to withhold a players money as they conclude is a fraud,why don't they use that money to pay the credit players they defrauded instead of holding some stupid contest.An RX mod openly admitted that they have credit players that were stiffed.This place reeks and anybody that deposits and gets stiffed now deserves it.

                                          I missed this, is this indeed a fact?
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                                          • MBENZ
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 01-07-07
                                            • 5238

                                            #161
                                            Originally posted by Fishhead
                                            I missed this, is this indeed a fact?
                                            Check out post 22-31.

                                            EasyStreet stiffs player for 56k ( 1 2 3 ... Last Page)
                                            Last edited by SBR Jonelyn; 01-15-15, 04:04 PM.
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                                            • MBENZ
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 01-07-07
                                              • 5238

                                              #162
                                              Sorry Fish,this place is not allowing to paste thread.It's in the main thread at Peeps about EZ.


                                              EasyStreet stiffs player for 56k ( 1 2 3 ... Last Page)
                                              Grand Slam
                                              Last edited by SBR Jonelyn; 01-15-15, 04:05 PM.
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                                              • HeeeHAWWWW
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 06-13-08
                                                • 5487

                                                #163
                                                =BINOMDIST(E152,21815,0.00002476,FALSE)

                                                0 58.266%
                                                1 31.473%
                                                2 8.500%
                                                3 1.530%
                                                4 0.207%
                                                5 0.022%
                                                6 0.002%
                                                7 0.000%

                                                (to 3 dec places, there's never exactly 0%)


                                                >2.5 1.76% = 1 in 57


                                                Anyone want to check?
                                                Last edited by HeeeHAWWWW; 04-09-11, 08:30 AM.
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                                                • Justin7
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 07-31-06
                                                  • 8577

                                                  #164
                                                  Originally posted by Climate
                                                  Justin why use a Poisson Dist? Poisson is more suited to problems where the number of trials is unknown but you can define the average number of successes in a fixed period of time.

                                                  In this case we know the number of trials and can define the probability of success for each trial. So solving for the binomial dist is more suitable. My calculations show that getting 3 or more royal flushes in 21,000 hands has a probability of 1.6353% or roughly 1 in 61.
                                                  Did you use a binomial distribution? Show your work. Others using a binom got a very similar result to Poisson.
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                                                  • Justin7
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 07-31-06
                                                    • 8577

                                                    #165
                                                    Ok. I made a mistake somewhere. I agree it is very close to 2%.
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                                                    • darrell74
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 04-16-07
                                                      • 14648

                                                      #166
                                                      SBR and Rx moderators in the same room.

                                                      Could be a little tension, huh.
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                                                      • empty cookie jar
                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                        • 05-14-10
                                                        • 876

                                                        #167
                                                        Originally posted by fishhead
                                                        hundreds, and probably thousands, have viewed all the evidence that has been made public and over 90% are siding with the player...................i think that's a pretty damn good 3rd party in itself.
                                                        wrong
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                                                        • Extra Innings
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 02-26-10
                                                          • 15058

                                                          #168
                                                          Originally posted by Justin7
                                                          Ok. I made a mistake somewhere. I agree it is very close to 2%.
                                                          Doesn't make a difference if it was .002%, 3% or 7%.

                                                          It's fair to say 2% is far from improbable which proves the point.
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                                                          • Fishhead
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 08-11-05
                                                            • 40179

                                                            #169
                                                            Originally posted by empty cookie jar
                                                            wrong
                                                            I should have said over 90% that are not BIASED in either way, sorry.
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                                                            • Fishhead
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 08-11-05
                                                              • 40179

                                                              #170
                                                              Originally posted by Extra Innings
                                                              Doesn't make a difference if it was .002%, 3% or 7%.

                                                              It's fair to say 2% is far from improbable which proves the point.


                                                              It's totally irrelevant and why all this Royal frequency bullshit should never be mentioned again........
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                                                              • pokerplayer22
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 05-09-09
                                                                • 1207

                                                                #171
                                                                Originally posted by MBENZ
                                                                Since EZ sees fit to withhold a players money as they conclude is a fraud,why don't they use that money to pay the credit players they defrauded instead of holding some stupid contest.An RX mod openly admitted that they have credit players that were stiffed.This place reeks and anybody that deposits and gets stiffed now deserves it.
                                                                I didnt know of this either. But obviously it comes as no shock that they defrauded other players also. It's known in this industry as pulling a "Powers".

                                                                But you're right, they should at the very least, use that money to pay back their previous stiff jobs
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                                                                • Fishhead
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 08-11-05
                                                                  • 40179

                                                                  #172
                                                                  Originally posted by pokerplayer22
                                                                  I didnt know of this either. But obviously it comes as no shock that they defrauded other players also. It's known in this industry as pulling a "Powers".

                                                                  But you're right, they should at the very least, use that money to pay back their previous stiff jobs

                                                                  They owe Cory............this making it up by paying others or running a contest and other similar offers is not solving this matter in a responsible way.

                                                                  Cory1111 is the person owed the funds.
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                                                                  • ufcmma36
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 02-22-10
                                                                    • 1065

                                                                    #173
                                                                    I hope SBR takes all the winnings in that contest!!!!
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                                                                    • Fishhead
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 08-11-05
                                                                      • 40179

                                                                      #174
                                                                      Originally posted by ufcmma36
                                                                      I hope SBR takes all the winnings in that contest!!!!

                                                                      The contest is an insult to the vast majority of postup players that are aware of the dispute.
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                                                                      • ufcmma36
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 02-22-10
                                                                        • 1065

                                                                        #175
                                                                        I agreee! maybe SBR could win and give 10K to Cory? Its pretty screwed... But if they send you an email saying you have been chosen you wont go to CR?
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