EZStreet theft, deception and TheRx whitewashing Video (banned at TheRx)

**El Stufruado** · 04-08-11, 09:33 AM

Originally posted by benjy

Fantastic work. I'm totally impressed.

I'm tempted to go over to the Rx and tell them what scummy, unprincipled, cretinous, douchebags they are being.

It will be deleted before anyone gets to read it , waste of time imo

**FourLengthsClear** · 04-08-11, 09:46 AM

Scummy book
Scummy player

I care a lot less about this than I would if it was an "average" player.

I am not surprised by SBR/Justin taking the view that they have firstly because it is fundamentally correct and secondly because the book is not a sponsor.

**spankie** · 04-08-11, 09:47 AM

they should hire sheen, it's all that can save them now.

**Santo** · 04-08-11, 10:09 AM

It's a good video/analysis - the 'expert' remaining anonymous is the most worrying thing to me.

**wrongturn** · 04-08-11, 10:11 AM

The anonymous part is actually minor comparing to the arguments this "expert" made, which is probably why he wanted to be anonymous.

**Mammon** · 04-08-11, 10:32 AM

Justin,

You pretty much destroyed the Easy/RX position. Excellent work and keep it coming!

**WVU** · 04-08-11, 10:35 AM

Excellent synapse and rebuttal, Justin. Wilheim should be ashamed at the mess he created but not doing his due diligence

**jayc88** · 04-08-11, 10:56 AM

great vid
another scam book gets busted , great job justin and sbr

**Santo** · 04-08-11, 11:02 AM

Originally posted by wrongturn

The anonymous part is actually minor comparing to the arguments this "expert" made, which is probably why he wanted to be anonymous.

Basically my point; the fact that he's anonymous suggests he doesn't want to be associated with the report. It's vaguely plausible that Wil/whomever somehow mangled a proper report in translating it to be 'reader friendly', which is why I asked for the full one, but in that case you'd expect them to release the name / detailed report (which is what I asked for over there).

**daimoshokage** · 04-08-11, 11:12 AM

**wrongturn** · 04-08-11, 11:14 AM

The most laughable argument is that RNG can be overwhelmed by player's fast play. Remember it is not like a bot continually sending many dealing hand requests at same time, which is similar to what deny of service attack does to websites, in this case the player, or a bot if used, has to play one hand and wait for the game server to deal another hand before next request. It is not possible to overwhelm a server by a single player/bot in this playing fashion. Even the server can be overwhelmed somehow, what result is going to be? A playing speed at snail pace or no response at all!

**Stallion** · 04-08-11, 11:17 AM

EasyStreet is a scam book and should be an F-. Great work Justin!!!

**socalaaron** · 04-08-11, 11:36 AM

Very interesting and informed take on this... Really wish we could somehow get the whole story..

**KGambler** · 04-08-11, 11:44 AM

Great work Justin.

Originally posted by Justin7

There is no name attached to the report, because no engineer is so incompetent that he would make these conclusions if he actually looked at the facts. This leaves one of two possibilities: 1. The Rx told the engineer to assume many “facts” that it knew were false, or 2. TheRx simply fabricated the report. In either case, TheRx is attempting to defraud the public with more misinformation.

Reagarding the "third party expert" they hired, I have to agree with these conclusions. This so-called expert doesn't seem to know jack-shit about computer software nor the mathematics of gambling. He repeats all of the lies and distortions that Easystreetsports.com and Shilheim had already trotted out previously. Despite the fact that most of these lies, distortions and errors had already been pointed out over at theRX and here at SBR, he didn't succeed in finding a single one of these inconsistencies. It really looks like Easystreetsports and theRX could not find a competent expert who would agree with their own conclusions, so they either bribed someone to lie or simply created this "expert" out of whole cloth.

I have to lean towards the second possibility. Shilheim and his modlings over at theRX all happen to display a shocking ignorance of math, science and technology. They just don't seem all that educated, to put it mildly. Even the simplest of math problems had them stumbling and bumbling. What are the chances that they happened upon a software engineer and gaming expert who shares their complete inability to understand simple math, make rational arguments or adhere to the actual facts? To borrow a phrase from their "expert", it seems like a "statistical impossibility". The farce of a report they presented really makes it seem like the uneducated buffoons over at theRX put their heads together and attempted to make a case for their client Easystreetsports.com.

Besides repeating all of the same lies, distortions and errors as the imbeciles over at theRX, this mystery "expert" even repeats Shilheim's ridiculous claim that, despite his extensive background working with Video Poker, he has never seen such a high incidence of RFs. Again, what are the chances that they found an engineer who can't add, who doesn't understand statistics, who made all of the same obvious mistakes, and who used all of the same inane arguments - all without disagreeing on a single point?

**KGambler** · 04-08-11, 11:57 AM

I was interested to learn that the phone call to Cory, where he supposedly couldn't remember how he hit his third royal, actually took place well over a week after the hand was played. That P.O.S. shill Wilheim over at theRX has been saying, repeatedly, that the phone call took place two hours after the third royal was hit. Easystreetsports.com and their paid shills over at theRX have been caught in so many bald faced lies that I have lost count.

**AribaAriba** · 04-08-11, 12:00 PM

Originally posted by El Stufruado

did we ever think he was going to get paid. Right off the get go after all the things being said by everyone from EZ/RX wasnt looking good.

you are right that he will get paid on this matter, but the most revealing to old school poster now is on how RX is corrupt especially their Head Moderator there (Will). Take note, this guy lives in the same compound as to where Ez street located at. I lost all my respect on that site and i knew it all that there are shills all over that place to sell their service and its pretty obvious how they censored all posts their like a communist Russia.

**Louisvillekid1** · 04-08-11, 12:02 PM

who in their right mind would ever go to the rx or play at ez after that 17 min video...

great job, you hit'em up ....

what can they say at this point? i mean a rebuttal to that video is 'statically impossible' ....well at-least 700/1

great job sbr, this cory dude is a beast.... gotta love a good degenerate in their prime

lol 'sir you just played 8700 hands can you please tell me what we dealt you on hand # 4365? 'oh you can't'? Your def cheating.. haha

**Santo** · 04-08-11, 12:07 PM

GJMike, who I trust (and who dislikes TheRX), has posted that he was at the offices last week on other (sport related) business and that the expert was there, and able to answer his questions, which just makes it all the more muddled...

**Kindred** · 04-08-11, 12:33 PM

I thought he used a bot because of not pausing after the royal...until this video. The different pauses between hands he probably was on a rush and kept playing until he lost a hand. And playing that many hands isn't hard, not a video poker player myself but blackjack that would be really easy.

The Expert Easy Street and their scumbag affiliate RX forum are trying to use to discredit him makes them SCUM!

Seriously if this guy could rig the software he shouldn't waste his time with broke ass Easy Street, he could go after Bookmaker and the other sportsbooks with deep pockets that use DGS software.

RX are scum, so is covers. Why anyone frequents those websites is beyond me. Players complain the casino is rigged and sportsbooks hate that. When a player wins the sportsbooks claim he must have cheated. Fuckkkinnnnn LAME

cory111 should make a video using play money and DGS software to show them he can play that fast. Probably wouldn't get him paid but put one more hole in their lame ass story. Unless he does plan to go to Costa Rica, in which case I'd say bring someone with you and video it otherwise they'll just lie and say you couldn't do it.

**KGambler** · 04-08-11, 12:38 PM

Originally posted by Santo

GJMike, who I trust (and who dislikes TheRX), has posted that he was at the offices last week on other (sport related) business and that the expert was there, and able to answer his questions, which just makes it all the more muddled...

I just went and read GJMike's post over at PP. Wow, what a blithering idiot. He mis-states some of the facts of the case, says that Cory should have travelled to CR to take a polygraph, that he personally "probably" would not have paid the player, and that he thinks Cory was able to mess with the RNG. This guy is a total and complete moron. Why would a player who had a bot which could defeat the DGS RNG draw attention to himself by bringing a case against a joke shop like Easystreetsports??? If he had a machine that printed money, do you really think he would be playing at Easystreetsports and drawing attention to himself when they can't pay him???

He also makes a foolish claim about defeating an RNG himself, in his spare time as a small favor to a friend, which WVU completely destroys.

And what is he talking about that the player hit 2 royals at a different casino two days prior? Is he just getting confused over the NorthBet royals, which happened months ago, or this supposed to be new info?

Where do these idiots come from?

Yi · 04-08-11, 12:41 PM

Great Post!!!

**Santo** · 04-08-11, 12:45 PM

WVU doesn't completely destroy it; the allegation refers to proprietary software built on a Microsoft platform which at the time had a known RNG deficiency - not production-grade software which DGS is. I don't think Cory defeated the RNG, I do believe Mike met the expert and that he exists.

I don't think Mike has followed the case in detail, hence the mis-statements -- I do know him to be a competent programmer who's been involved with various projects relating to offshore, one of which made me a lot of money and the two I've used were both designed/updated well.

**KGambler** · 04-08-11, 12:52 PM

Originally posted by Santo

WVU doesn't completely destroy it; the allegation refers to proprietary software built on a Microsoft platform which at the time had a known RNG deficiency - not production-grade software which DGS is. I don't think Cory defeated the RNG, I do believe Mike met the expert and that he exists.

I don't think Mike has followed the case in detail, hence the mis-statements -- I do know him to be a competent programmer who's been involved with various projects relating to offshore, one of which made me a lot of money and the two I've used were both designed/updated well.

Fair enough, but then why does this ass clown jump to the conclusion that he thinks the player could defeat the RNG? This is simply an asinine conclusion. There is no reason to believe this at all. Not only is there no proof, not only do the known facts of the case point to it not being true, but the behavior of the player is totally inconsistent with having a superbot/money printer.

And if he is not following the case closely, why is he making these stupid comments and continuing to argue with people who have paid attention to the actual facts?

He does not seem credible.

**MBENZ** · 04-08-11, 12:59 PM

Originally posted by HedgeHog

Definitely a great video; Justin made a slam dunk case against EZ. As far as the EZ rating goes, remember that they were a C+ before this scandal broke. Also, note that this is the only legit complaint, albeit a big one, against EZ which has been making payouts to all other winners as far as we can tell. So how big a drop should they get? In my opinion, a D+ or D is fair. D- or worse is not, because it puts them in the same category as Sportsbook.com which routinely steals. SBR currently has the rating right.

There are numerous post at other sites from long time players about them stiffing on the credit side.This is not their first rodeo at the no pay corral.

**pokerplayer22** · 04-08-11, 01:10 PM

Originally posted by MBENZ

There are numerous post at other sites from long time players about them stiffing on the credit side.This is not their first rodeo at the no pay corral.

I also saw a post at EOG that says that their employees are being paid late and some not at all...and this came from someone who supposedly worked at EZ

**HedgeHog** · 04-08-11, 01:13 PM

Originally posted by MBENZ

There are numerous post at other sites from long time players about them stiffing on the credit side.This is not their first rodeo at the no pay corral.

Which sites? I'd like to check these complaints out.

**cc440unn** · 04-08-11, 01:19 PM

they re just bullshitt... theyre probably broke .... 46k. is it not peanutt for a bookmaker ?

**xstud** · 04-08-11, 01:21 PM

Originally posted by pokerplayer22

I also saw a post at EOG that says that their employees are being paid late and some not at all...and this came from someone who supposedly worked at EZ

At this point ANY poster who registers and their first post at a new site is claiming something as absurd as this is just as big of a fraud as cory. Not to mention the first reply was from Cory.

Anyone who registers to chime in with supposed facts in support of Easystreet or Cory after the decision that TheRX made bottom line is a fraud and a crook and likely a ghost.

**WVU** · 04-08-11, 01:23 PM

Originally posted by Santo

WVU doesn't completely destroy it; the allegation refers to proprietary software built on a Microsoft platform which at the time had a known RNG deficiency - not production-grade software which DGS is. I don't think Cory defeated the RNG, I do believe Mike met the expert and that he exists.

I don't think Mike has followed the case in detail, hence the mis-statements -- I do know him to be a competent programmer who's been involved with various projects relating to offshore, one of which made me a lot of money and the two I've used were both designed/updated well.

Santo, I have much respect for you and a fan of your posts. Do you really believe Mike was able to defeat a casino's RNG by using DOS attack methods and all this in only a matter of hours? That is alot to swallow. Computer hackers, programmers, and MIT type braintrusts have been trying to do this since 1997 and somehow he was able to do it over lunch?

His explanation of how a DOS type attack could slow down the processor enough to allow for prediction and manipulation of the supposed random numbers doesn't sound likely. That direction has been tried many times before.

**jjgold** · 04-08-11, 01:28 PM

Originally posted by pokerplayer22

I also saw a post at EOG that says that their employees are being paid late and some not at all...and this came from someone who supposedly worked at EZ

Its over for them

**MBENZ** · 04-08-11, 01:32 PM

Originally posted by HedgeHog

Which sites? I'd like to check these complaints out.

Peeps for one,I believe you'll find a few in the EZ thread and there are others before this cory crap started.

**HeeeHAWWWW** · 04-08-11, 01:33 PM

Originally posted by wrongturn

The anonymous part is actually minor comparing to the arguments this "expert" made, which is probably why he wanted to be anonymous.

He's anonymous cos he doesn't exist - those are not the arguments of anyone who has the vaguest clue what they're talking about, they're the arguments of a shill.

**Santo** · 04-08-11, 01:40 PM

Originally posted by WVU

Santo, I have much respect for you and a fan of your posts. Do you really believe Mike was able to defeat a casino's RNG by using DOS attack methods and all this in only a matter of hours? That is alot to swallow. Computer hackers, programmers, and MIT type braintrusts have been trying to do this since 1997 and somehow he was able to do it over lunch?

His explanation of how a DOS type attack could slow down the processor enough to allow for prediction and manipulation of the supposed random numbers doesn't sound likely. That direction has been tried many times before.

WVU - Similarly I have great respect for you, as I do for Mike. My reading of Mike's post is that this was a pre-production system developed in Visual Basic. This sounds like a mock-up of a design by a programmer based in Vegas that was some way short of a production system that you're talking about.

As I said in a post at the RX, I know people (maybe the same as some you know) who have invested much money in trying to defeat RNG's - I don't believe Cory did it, and I doubt Mike could do it to DGS in a few hours / over lunch.

Do I believe he could do it to a Visual Basic program many years ago over lunch? Definitely. We're talking about an RNG that is about the same level as something in Excel 97 or 2000, not something that's designed as military / casino-grade software with external seeds etc. I believe MSDN still carries the support article, but those early Microsoft RNG's repeated every million or so calls; overloading the system could reduce that significantly.

(Incidentally I think MS upgraded their RNG in 2003)

**sharpcat** · 04-08-11, 01:40 PM

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**MBENZ** · 04-08-11, 01:42 PM

Interesting piece here Hedge.

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Re: EasyStreet stiffs player for 56k
The ONLY story is that this was going to happen. EASYSTREET is a STIFF book. They have stiffed millions on the credit end and now will NEVER pay this guy. WHEN WILL YOU ALL LISTEN. The RX takes money from this STIFFF book FULLY knowing there background as STIFFS. They will DEFEND them with no conscience.

I have been through matters with DGS casino software. There is no SHOT this guy cheated. I can GUARANTEE you if anyone calls BRUCE over at DGS he will tell you that is all on the UP and UP. I have seen guys win in the DGS casino. It happens. Just like slot machines in VEGAS.

STOP with there is ALOT more to this STORY bullshit. You should be ashamed of yourself taking BLOOD money and not BACKING players and always BACKING stiff mother ******* books.

If you all do not remember this is part of the ownership of EASYSTIIFF.
http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/200...nabbed_in.html

They STEAL from there mothers why wouldn't the steal from you.

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