All Betonline.ag, Sportsbetting.ag and Lowvig.ag Issues

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Let's take two examples:
1) BetOnline. Put two +100 legs into the Parlay calculator.
...Comes out at +299. That's close enough to +300.
...So, I'll call that true odds. Very fair.

2) LowVig. Put two +100 legs into the Parlay calculator.
...Comes out at +276. That's way short of +300.
...Way short of the odds listed on the Straight bets.
...I get it. They don't want to get gouged on short-juice across multiple legs of the parlay.

And my point on the Moneyline market. Today's NFL straddles at LowVig are:
-240/+200, -410/+324, -204/+177, -400/+316, -320/+260.
...Those straddles are at least 50% too wide.
...Can't bet into these #s.

Was it a same game parlay or not? That's the real ?

I'm shocked.

When you say put it in the calculator, do you mean loading up a betslip? So that's definitely what they are paying?

[Chiefs83]

Any codes for the telegram page

[11281]

BetOnline said they needed to verify my identity and froze my account for three days. Has anyone else experienced this? My wager amount has increased as well as my win percentage.

[infotimbo]

When you say put it in the calculator, do you mean loading up a betslip? So that's definitely what they are paying?

I just checked myself, and it seems to affect reduced-juice markets only, which do not translate to the parlay. I the end, you get the same payout on both, betonline (left) as well as lowvig (right), but not the reduced juice, as the betslip indicates.

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I just checked myself, and it seems to affect reduced-juice markets only, which do not translate to the parlay. I the end, you get the same payout on both, betonline (left) as well as lowvig (right), but not the reduced juice, as the betslip indicates.

Thanks Timbo!! Makes sense now. And reasonable.

I knew there had to be some explanation better than lowvig were so scummy to just shave ML parlays and hope no one noticed.

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[infotimbo]

Thanks Timbo!! Makes sense now. And reasonable.

I knew there had to be some explanation better than lowvig were so scummy to just shave ML parlays and hope no one noticed.

still something they should fix asap. You can't really show one price and pay another, no matter if those improved odds are intended to be parlayed or not.

[littlekona]

Any codes for the telegram page

VIP program has turned embarrassing the low amounts they are sending out BUT its still easy the best best offshore book payouts fast in minutes most of the time, high limits and best offering including a good poker room and great race book with top rebates.
anyone complaining its either an honest mistake they will fix or just trying to pull standard funny business like we see few here trying and stories are full of BS.

[ChuckyTheGoat]

still something they should fix asap. You can't really show one price and pay another, no matter if those improved odds are intended to be parlayed or not.

Thx, Timbo. Yes, that's what I was saying.

On Parlays, LowVig strips out the reduced-juice. So, the Parlay becomes equivalent to what you'd see at BetOnline.

[2Sweeet]

Thanks Timbo!! Makes sense now. And reasonable.

I knew there had to be some explanation better than lowvig were so scummy to just shave ML parlays and hope no one noticed.

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Me 2 so don't be shocked. LOL

[2Sweeet]

still something they should fix asap. You can't really show one price and pay another, no matter if those improved odds are intended to be parlayed or not.

I agree with this also.

[juvunits]

Just wondering if sportsbetting .ag and betonline are the exact same? Do have to sign up for both or will my account work on both?

Also I’m hearing a lot about betonline being trustworthy, is sportsbetting.ag the same?

[dr_seanathan]

Just wondering if sportsbetting .ag and betonline are the exact same? Do have to sign up for both or will my account work on both?

Also I’m hearing a lot about betonline being trustworthy, is sportsbetting.ag the same?

SportsBetting.ag is trustworthy

They are sister books

I would at the least, use two different emails for your two different accounts and do not put the same bets into both accounts at the same times

[15cnbrk12345]

I haven’t been able to access the BetOnline site for a long time — I don’t think the problem is only on my end.

[macb]

Both sites down for maintenance still

[macb]

they are both .ag now as well. Not .eu

[littlekona]

Down here too. Not besy time for maintenance on a Saturday with UK hoses , EPL and then USA football soon


Weekly VIP cash boost TG message just hit too but site down


EDIT BOL BACK LETS GO!!!!!

[littlekona]

and down again. vip rep just says team working on getting back up asap

[littlekona]

back live now

[15cnbrk12345]

back live now

Yes it's back.

[Crusherrr]

I claimed my weekly bonus and it disappeared. Strange.

[Wild-Oscar]

Betonline cancelled my live wager on North Carolina vs. Syracuse 18 minutes after is was accepted. NC scored on the first play after the bet was accepted however the play had not yet occurred at the time the wager was placed and accepted. Contacted customer service and waited 36 minutes before a live person responded. Escalated and denied with the the explanation it was "post placed". It wasn't. Posting this for informational purposes for anyone interested.

Puzzled why BOL enjoys such a vaunted reputation. Customer service is horrible, charge for withdrawls, limited wagering options. But they do pay and that is most important so there is that. Just think their gushing reviews are undeserved.

[littlekona]

Betonline cancelled my live wager on North Carolina vs. Syracuse 18 minutes after is was accepted. NC scored on the first play after the bet was accepted however the play had not yet occurred at the time the wager was placed and accepted. Contacted customer service and waited 36 minutes before a live person responded. Escalated and denied with the the explanation it was "post placed". It wasn't. Posting this for informational purposes for anyone interested.

Puzzled why BOL enjoys such a vaunted reputation. Customer service is horrible, charge for withdrawls, limited wagering options. But they do pay and that is most important so there is that. Just think their gushing reviews are undeserved.

live wagering every platform everyone has issues at times.......bottom line is they take big action AND they pay FAST and been trusted for years....live wagering disputes happen everywhere its just how it is sometimes illl wager live and it spins for 20 seconds sometimes accepts sometimes doesnt all my sites offshore and stateside....also have had bets voided when a TD or goal happens as i bet sometimes in my favor too.

[Brooklyn Dick]

live wagering every platform everyone has issues at times.......bottom line is they take big action AND they pay FAST and been trusted for years....live wagering disputes happen everywhere its just how it is sometimes illl wager live and it spins for 20 seconds sometimes accepts sometimes doesnt all my sites offshore and stateside....also have had bets voided when a TD or goal happens as i bet sometimes in my favor too.

What a Crock. If the bet was accepted it can't be cancelled for past post. It is there own software, not yours..............And you can bet your bottom dollar if the other team scored he would have been down...

[littlekona]

What a Crock. If the bet was accepted it can't be cancelled for past post. It is there own software, not yours..............And you can bet your bottom dollar if the other team scored he would have been down...

ive had some voided in my favor. Ive even had horse race wagers i made right as gates open voided and some in my favor some not..... its not a crock its just how it is with anything live even stateside books happens on occasion

[QuantumLeap]

BetOnline changed a ticket of mine. The time a LIVE bet was accepted was originally almost 4 hours after the match started and then changed back to the correct time. If they can change the time of a ticket they can change an amount.
Imagine if you had a $40,000 bet and they changed it to $30,000. Why would anyone bet here?
The problem arose when I made the following bet:
PYRAMIDS FC vs PHARCO FC - Side Handicap 0:2 PYRAMIDS
I took this to mean Pyramids -2. The score was 1-0 Pyramids and the Pyramids scored 1 more goal.
I was told that "since Pyramids didn't score my bet was a loss". I tried to explain to them that there was a goal after I bet. Then I realized that the time my bet was accepted was 10:59 GMT-7. The match started at 07:00 GMT-7. That would mean my bet was accepted almost 4 hours after the match started.
Here is a screen capture of my ticket at that time.

Notice the time accepted was 10:59 GMT-7.
After arguing with a supervisor that there was a goal scored after my bet, I realized I would not get through to these dummies even though the bet was supposedly accepted 4 hours after the match started. The dumb supervisor actually said they take bets ahead of matches, meaning futures bets. He wasn't smart enough to realize this bet was stamped with a time 4 hours after the match started.
So I'm not contesting the bet anymore. It's no worth my time for these people to be so stupid as to not know their own product or to lie about it.
I filled out a review of BetOnline from an email I received and another supervisor contacted me. I went to look at my ticket only to see it had been changed.

Notice how the ticket had been changed to the right time that I made the bet. This is evidence that BetOnline is changing tickets and can't be trusted. Why ever make a bet here when if you contest it they will change a ticket in their favor like they did here?

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What time was the second goal scored? After 7:59 GMT-7?

0-2 on the bet slip does mean that was supposedly the score at the time.

[QuantumLeap]

What time was the second goal scored? After 7:59 GMT-7?

0-2 on the bet slip does mean that was supposedly the score at the time.

It was scored during the 57th minute:

https://www.sofascore.com/football/match/pharco-fc-pyramids-fc/cavbsdJWb

If the match started at 07:00 GMT-7 then the 1st half would be over some time after 07:45 GMT-7. Count in 15 minutes of intermission brings us a few minutes after 08:00 GMT-7. Add in 12 minutes into the 2nd half gives us some time after 08:12 GMT-7 for the 2nd goal to score. My bet is marked as being accepted at 07:59 GMT-7 which would have been well before the time of the 2nd goal.

I tried telling that to BetOnline but they are either too stupid to figure it out or they are deliberately lying. Either way they are wrong about the bet. But that doesn't matter because they wouldn't budge on that.

But it's more important that the time of the bet being accepted was changed from 10:59 GMT-7 to 07:59 GMT-7. I was assured by a supervisor over and over again that this was not possible but you can see the difference in my 2 screenshots.

I also took screen shots of my conversation with the supervisor to show that I was arguing about the time of the bet being 4 hours after game time so people would know I didn't alter the screen shot.

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It was scored during the 57th minute:

https://www.sofascore.com/football/match/pharco-fc-pyramids-fc/cavbsdJWb

If the match started at 07:00 GMT-7 then the 1st half would be over some time after 07:45 GMT-7. Count in 15 minutes of intermission brings us a few minutes after 08:00 GMT-7. Add in 12 minutes into the 2nd half gives us some time after 08:12 GMT-7 for the 2nd goal to score. My bet is marked as being accepted at 07:59 GMT-7 which would have been well before the time of the 2nd goal.

I tried telling that to BetOnline but they are either too stupid to figure it out or they are deliberately lying. Either way they are wrong about the bet. But that doesn't matter because they wouldn't budge on that.

But it's more important that the time of the bet being accepted was changed from 10:59 GMT-7 to 07:59 GMT-7. I was assured by a supervisor over and over again that this was not possible but you can see the difference in my 2 screenshots.

I also took screen shots of my conversation with the supervisor to show that I was arguing about the time of the bet being 4 hours after game time so people would know I didn't alter the screen shot.

That match started at 7.00am. There was 2 mins added play in the first half, which finished at 7.47am. 15 mins half time break, so 2nd half resumed at 8.02am and the 2nd goal was scored at 08:14 gmt-7

07:59 would have been during the half time break. Is that as you remember it?

It seems quite clear how this should be graded if you are giving us the correct information. You must have only been speaking toa CS person who did not check properly.

Check your inbox and I'll message you a contact to try.


As far as the time change. It looks like both bet and grade times are exactly 3 hours wrong on slip 1. More likely a server timezone issue than any attempt to purposely defraud you, I'd guess.

[QuantumLeap]

That match started at 7.00am. There was 2 mins added play in the first half, which finished at 7.47am. 15 mins half time break, so 2nd half resumed at 8.02am and the 2nd goal was scored at 08:14 gmt-7

07:59 would have been during the half time break. Is that as you remember it?

It seems quite clear how this should be graded if you are giving us the correct information. You must have only been speaking toa CS person who did not check properly.

Check your inbox and I'll message you a contact to try.


As far as the time change. It looks like both bet and grade times are exactly 3 hours wrong on slip 1. More likely a server timezone issue than any attempt to purposely defraud you, I'd guess.

Thanks Opti! That's exactly the correct way to figure out the time of the 2nd goal. Yet these idiots at BetOnline were unable to do so. I spoke to one Customer Service guy name Andrew and then also asked to speak to a Supervisor who was named Patrick.

As far as the time change goes, that's the same thing Patrick tried to convince me, that it was a time zone issue. He said the system time was 3 hours ahead of GMT-7. The problem with that is that each ticket time is GMT-7 in both cases and doesn't deal with Eastern Time Zone vs Mountain Time Zone.

The thing to note is that the time changed. Having the correct time, especially in a live bet, is essential in getting the bet graded correctly and can make the difference between winning, pushing or losing.

[Dogsrule2025]

Some of you know I played with Bookmaker, terrible outfit, mgmt, customer support and the list goes on. I started playing with Betonline and deposited $75k with them 2023.
Ive made $10k deposit with them. I will say great customer service and support staff. However I must be missing something, they don’t offer deposit bonuses or free plays. They have a new VIP program which seems avg at best. They gave me a one time $50 free play, lol. I’ve never seen such a thing.

Back when BM was a reputable book, they gave me free plays ranging from $500-5k based on my dep volume.

It sounds like BetUS offers some good promos but not sure how legit they are. Any recommendations on the best offshore books?

[Brooklyn Dick]

Unfortunately there are none left. But I am sure some shills will recommend a few.....

[littlekona]

the VIP program at BOL did decline BUT its stil easy the best and most reliable bookand has fast payouts. check your VIP section they do have a feature they added called reloads and its been giving me like $15 free everyday just by claiming it

[littlekona]

plus they do have daily drops and the weekly monthly bonus they been doing but thats not vety much but its something....if you have not claimed any they let you go back 6 months or so i think to claim old ones...Lets see if we can get a good Christmas one this year. the 13 days of Christmas was great a few years ago be nice to have that back w same structure and free plays

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Thanks for tips Kona

[Dogsrule2025]

As much as I bash Bookmaker because I know they kept $25k BTC that was sent to one of their hot wallets, I must say they were like pro’s compared to Betonline which is like playing with a grade school team. I deposited about $100k with Betonline, $22k in November (Diamond 1 status) and just received my November bonus of $534.

while at BM, I received betpoints (except when they deactivated them while I was playing $100-300k per day), 20% cash on top of all my deposits, and offered up to 10% free plays on top of my deposits. In total I received about $50k in free plays.

In told Betonline to close my account and they offer me a $50 free plays, lol. wtf Why would anyone play there? They payout, great, there are a lot of books that payout. What a joke!