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[slewfan]

On March 4, 2024, the claim that the Biden administration had secretly flown 320,000 migrants into the U.S. in 2023 went viral. That claim originated from a report by the Center for Immigration Studies, a conservative think tank. The report, and its assertions, gained significant exposure when the Daily Mail covered it and Elon Musk shared the Daily Mail article on X (formerly known as Twitter). Former U.S. President Donald Trump also repeated the claim in his Super Tuesday victory speech on March 5, 2024.
The central assertions made by CIS, repeated by the Daily Mail or others, were that:

• A Biden administration program was responsible for flying 320,000 migrants directly into the United States between January and December 2023. (True)
• The program was a secret whose details were discovered by an outside group. (False)
• The program allowed unvetted aliens to enter the United States. (False)
• The U.S. government admitted that the program was a national-security risk. (False)
• Such a program could affect U.S. politics by altering voter demographics. (False)

Of these five claims, only the first was true. The program has never been a secret, it does not transport "unvetted" aliens, and participation in it requires significant vetting and a sponsor who is a U.S. citizen. The program provides no pathway to citizenship, which is a requirement to vote.

Did Biden Secretly Fly 320K Unvetted Migrants to American Airports in 2023? | Snopes.com

Dwight thanks for letting me know about my wrong numbers on contest!!
GL on your picks!

This article is a total propaganda net written by a proletariat Left.

But he did allow over 15 million other illegal people in..

[DwightShrute]

[b1slickguy]

[jackpot269]

uhhh what the fukk?

320,000 migrants is true and you dont think this is a problem

who knows how many "illegals"

if Trump loses this election, it will be the last election in USA

I Just Posted an article about an issue that was being talked about. From a group that checks facts. The lie about it being secret flights is classic GOP. They can't just go with the truth, even if they think it is bad, they always got to add on lies. (usually it's all lies anyway)
Like the Jan 6 tapes. When the GOP took the house in 2022, McCarthy gave Tucker 40.000 hours of tapes and said anyone else that wanted them, just ask. About a year later, when they were being released, all you heard from GOP was took us 3 years to get these tapes. When someone from their own party offered them to everyone a year before. Sad part is their cult always believes this shit.

Show me where I said illegal immigration was not a problem. Been a problem for many decades.




''if Trump loses this election, it will be the last election in USA.''

If you want to bet some money on this, let me know.

[DwightShrute]

I Just Posted an article about an issue that was being talked about. From a group that checks facts. The lie about it being secret flights is classic GOP. They can't just go with the truth, even if they think it is bad, they always got to add on lies. (usually it's all lies anyway)
Like the Jan 6 tapes. When the GOP took the house in 2022, McCarthy gave Tucker 40.000 hours of tapes and said anyone else that wanted them, just ask. About a year later, when they were being released, all you heard from GOP was took us 3 years to get these tapes. When someone from their own party offered them to everyone a year before. Sad part is their cult always believes this shit.

Show me where I said illegal immigration was not a problem. Been a problem for many decades.




''if Trump loses this election, it will be the last election in USA.''

If you want to bet some money on this, let me know.

when you say secret flights like as if they were flown in on a Stealth bomber, its being a little disingenuous. They are boing flown in, 30,000 a month. Why do you think they are doing this? I know you can't say so because it make the dems look like traitors. It all about votes ----> power -----> Money. I suspect you know this but you just can't bring yourself to say it. I get it. Politics. Too bad.

30,000 a month! Unvetted. The out some info on an app and then they get flown into the States, get a debit card, a hotel, a cell phone and flight to anywhere they want. Mostly persuaded to one of the swing States of course. Oh I know, this is normal for countries to do. Fly in hundreds of thousands of people and allow millions cross the border illegally. Happens all over the world. No ill effects. Hey look at Germany, France and England for example. The millions of migrants has had a profound positive effect on their countries. I mean, when you allow millions of mostly young males to come in, what could possibly go wrong?

As far as the j6 tapes go, its my understanding that no one was given those tapes. You were given permission to view them in a designated room at the Capitol. Just to clarify. The footage was vital to show that the government fought to withhold the video and did withhold it from the defense and the court. Once evidence was uncovered by Tucker, the judge released the guy who was serving a 4 year federal prison sentence for trespassing. No violence whatsoever. Held in solitary for a year or so. Where is the investigation about that? The MSM said a cop was killed because he was bashed in the head by a fire extinguisher. Tucker showed the same cop on video hours later walking around the building alive.

Do you know how thick those doors are? Why did the cops open them? Why did Pelosi refuse 10,000 national guards? Do you think its at all possible that the dems wanted to see a riot so they could gain a political advantage while also blaming Trump? Maybe that is why the bombs were never detonated and no one has caught the person who planted them. They were a back up plan. Threat to out democracy? The biggest threat in US history.

You don't think these people are capable of doing anything like this? If not, then you probably believe Oswald shot JFK and Building 7 fell by itself.

[jackpot269]

when you say secret flights like as if they were flown in on a Stealth bomber, its being a little disingenuous. They are boing flown in, 30,000 a month. Why do you think they are doing this? I know you can't say so because it make the dems look like traitors. It all about votes ----> power -----> Money. I suspect you know this but you just can't bring yourself to say it. I get it. Politics. Too bad.

30,000 a month! Unvetted. The out some info on an app and then they get flown into the States, get a debit card, a hotel, a cell phone and flight to anywhere they want. Mostly persuaded to one of the swing States of course. Oh I know, this is normal for countries to do. Fly in hundreds of thousands of people and allow millions cross the border illegally. Happens all over the world. No ill effects. Hey look at Germany, France and England for example. The millions of migrants has had a profound positive effect on their countries. I mean, when you allow millions of mostly young males to come in, what could possibly go wrong?

As far as the j6 tapes go, its my understanding that no one was given those tapes. You were given permission to view them in a designated room at the Capitol. Just to clarify. The footage was vital to show that the government fought to withhold the video and did withhold it from the defense and the court. Once evidence was uncovered by Tucker, the judge released the guy who was serving a 4 year federal prison sentence for trespassing. No violence whatsoever. Held in solitary for a year or so. Where is the investigation about that? The MSM said a cop was killed because he was bashed in the head by a fire extinguisher. Tucker showed the same cop on video hours later walking around the building alive.

Do you know how thick those doors are? Why did the cops open them? Why did Pelosi refuse 10,000 national guards? Do you think its at all possible that the dems wanted to see a riot so they could gain a political advantage while also blaming Trump? Maybe that is why the bombs were never detonated and no one has caught the person who planted them. They were a back up plan. Threat to out democracy? The biggest threat in US history.

You don't think these people are capable of doing anything like this? If not, then you probably believe Oswald shot JFK and Building 7 fell by itself.

The program has never been secret. DHS announced it when it began in October 2022:

The U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS) is developing a new, voluntary Advance Travel Authorization (ATA) process to collect information from eligible noncitizens requesting advance authorization to travel to the United States to seek a discretionary grant of parole. … ATA launched October 12, 2022, to implement a parole process for certain undocumented noncitizens from select countries and their qualifying immediate family members, under which those individuals may request advance authorization to travel to the United States to seek a discretionary grant of parole. … CBP's ATA collection is conducted through the CBP One™ mobile application.

These Migrants Were Not 'Unvetted'

The assertion that these migrants are simply dumped in America without any vetting is false, despite being made by the Daily Mail, Musk and several members of the GOP:
To participate, eligible beneficiaries receiving ATAs must "have a supporter in the United States" and "undergo and clear robust security vetting." Their supporters must agree "to provide them with financial support for the duration of their parole in the United States."
CIS characterized the humanitarian asylum program as "Biden Parole Flights." Such a phrase is great fodder for scary social media posts, like the one below from former Trump aide Steven Miller's PAC, but the word parole means a specific thing in the context of immigration law that differs from its meaning in the criminal justice system.

The other major component of the policy changes is a new process to allow up to 24,000 Venezuelans who are outside the United States to travel by air to the U.S. interior and be paroled into the country. … Venezuelans granted parole will be allowed to stay for up to two years and apply for work authorization. Parole does not provide a dedicated pathway to U.S. lawful permanent residence.
This is not parole from jail.


The tapes, I guess Truck Lied then because he said he got 40,000 hours on tapes and showed 5 minutes on his show. If he was only allowed to view in them in a room he would have had nothing to show, not even the 5 minutes.


That guy beings released had nothing to with Tucker. I've told you this several times

Please stop telling this lie. When you ask other poster to state lies you have told, all they got to do is fellow my post. Here is one you repeat ever chance you get.

[COLOR=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.95)]Albert Watkins, the attorney who handled Chansley’s plea and sentencing, tells TIME that the new footage did not play any role in his former client’s release. “Absolutely no,” he says. “I have seen no indication of any filings related to the new footage. There are no docket entries indicating the same.”

See, just stop. Why do you do that, you know it's a lie, yet you post it over and over.[/COLOR]

[DwightShrute]

The program has never been secret. DHS announced it when it began in October 2022:

The U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS) is developing a new, voluntary Advance Travel Authorization (ATA) process to collect information from eligible noncitizens requesting advance authorization to travel to the United States to seek a discretionary grant of parole. … ATA launched October 12, 2022, to implement a parole process for certain undocumented noncitizens from select countries and their qualifying immediate family members, under which those individuals may request advance authorization to travel to the United States to seek a discretionary grant of parole. … CBP's ATA collection is conducted through the CBP One™ mobile application.

These Migrants Were Not 'Unvetted'

The assertion that these migrants are simply dumped in America without any vetting is false, despite being made by the Daily Mail, Musk and several members of the GOP:
To participate, eligible beneficiaries receiving ATAs must "have a supporter in the United States" and "undergo and clear robust security vetting." Their supporters must agree "to provide them with financial support for the duration of their parole in the United States."
CIS characterized the humanitarian asylum program as "Biden Parole Flights." Such a phrase is great fodder for scary social media posts, like the one below from former Trump aide Steven Miller's PAC, but the word parole means a specific thing in the context of immigration law that differs from its meaning in the criminal justice system.

The other major component of the policy changes is a new process to allow up to 24,000 Venezuelans who are outside the United States to travel by air to the U.S. interior and be paroled into the country. … Venezuelans granted parole will be allowed to stay for up to two years and apply for work authorization. Parole does not provide a dedicated pathway to U.S. lawful permanent residence.

This is not parole from jail.

The tapes, I guess Truck Lied then because he said he got 40,000 hours on tapes and showed 5 minutes on his show. If he was only allowed to view in them in a room he would have had nothing to show, not even the 5 minutes.


That guy beings released had nothing to with Truck. I've told you this several times

Please stop telling this lie. When you ask other poster to state lies you have told, all they got to do is fellow my post. Here is one you repeat ever chance you get.

[COLOR=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.95)]Albert Watkins, the attorney who handled Chansley’s plea and sentencing, tells TIME that the new footage did not play any role in his former client’s release. “Absolutely no,” he says. “I have seen no indication of any filings related to the new footage. There are no docket entries indicating the same.”

See, just stop. Why do you do that, you know it's a lie, yet you post it over and over.[/COLOR]

come on Jackpot. Unvetted? These are the same people who told you the border was secure for years! Only when the polls showed that it was the right at the top of issues that voters cared about, did the dems pretend they cared. Do you know what allowing 15-20 million people into teh country in a few short years does? How many billions of dollars it costs?

Just imagine if they spent a fraction of the time and money just on its own people rather than people from other countries? My friend just came back from CA. She took he daughter to Disneyland. She loved it. However, she said it Hollywood walk of fame was disgusting. Drug addicts everywhere and smelled like a toilet. She also couldn't believe the smells of urine in other parts of LA and the miles of tents on the sidewalks.

This government are purposely spending billions of dollars in order to secure votes in a few years. They and their friends will make a ton of money long the way.

These people should be in prison. Instead, the government funds wars all over the world, spends billions bringing in people from other countries and convinced so many of you that this is ok. Over a half a million criminals that they know of, including thousands of rapists and murderers. And to make it worse, you accept it and will vote against the only candidate who will deport these people and put the country first. Unreal.

[b1slickguy]

Some banks in Australia are also questioning their customers' motives for withdrawing cash. Why would banks do this?

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[jackpot269]

come on Jackpot. Unvetted? These are the same people who told you the border was secure for years! Only when the polls showed that it was the right at the top of issues that voters cared about, did the dems pretend they cared. Do you know what allowing 15-20 million people into teh country in a few short years does? How many billions of dollars it costs?

Just imagine if they spent a fraction of the time and money just on its own people rather than people from other countries? My friend just came back from CA. She took he daughter to Disneyland. She loved it. However, she said it Hollywood walk of fame was disgusting. Drug addicts everywhere and smelled like a toilet. She also couldn't believe the smells of urine in other parts of LA and the miles of tents on the sidewalks.

This government are purposely spending billions of dollars in order to secure votes in a few years. They and their friends will make a ton of money long the way.

These people should be in prison. Instead, the government funds wars all over the world, spends billions bringing in people from other countries and convinced so many of you that this is ok. Over a half a million criminals that they know of, including thousands of rapists and murderers. And to make it worse, you accept it and will vote against the only candidate who will deport these people and put the country first. Unreal.

Most of the illegal drugs, in the USA come from Mexico or at least thru Mexico. There are no more drugs here now than when Trump was POTUS. Prices of most drugs dropped by 50% while Trump was POTUS and has stayed low due to the flooding of it here in the USA. The supply exploded while Trump was POTUS and have not slowed down. Under Trump is when the fentanyl started coming in, and with a steady rise from when it first found in my region.
The reason I'm telling you this, they are not going to stop the criminals from coming or bringing drugs, unless something slows demand. Sure, you can stop the ones wanting to come here to work and send almost all their money back home to their families.
I know Fox news has been lying to you for years and telling you different. I've seen it, out on the streets. The day workers, waiting to go to work, and the ones that work for the cartels selling the dope. Seen it, and heard it myself, firsthand, needed no one to tell me about it. They will not stop the cartels from getting their people, or products in. Not even Trump, it got worse not better his first term.

So, you are saying people convicted of felonies should be in jail? I agree!

[slewfan]

Barry lookin’for a fourth term. He be lovin’ the power. If we get lucky and Trump wins, we’ll get rid of the Bidens, Kamala, Pelosi, Clintons and Obama’s once and for all. How sweet that would be.


‘SICKENING’

Critics pounce after Obama scolds Black men hesitant to vote for VP Harris

[BOA12]

I Just Posted an article about an issue that was being talked about. From a group that checks facts. The lie about it being secret flights is classic GOP. They can't just go with the truth, even if they think it is bad, they always got to add on lies. (usually it's all lies anyway)
Like the Jan 6 tapes. When the GOP took the house in 2022, McCarthy gave Tucker 40.000 hours of tapes and said anyone else that wanted them, just ask. About a year later, when they were being released, all you heard from GOP was took us 3 years to get these tapes. When someone from their own party offered them to everyone a year before. Sad part is their cult always believes this shit.

Show me where I said illegal immigration was not a problem. Been a problem for many decades.




''if Trump loses this election, it will be the last election in USA.''

If you want to bet some money on this, let me know.

The duke of SBR is a hard core Nationalist.

Epitome of a shit poster.

[slewfan]

Trump tried to fix Immigration. He was attacked by the left relentlessly. Even accused of building cages and putting children in them. But when the truth came out, it turned out to be Obama and the democrats who built the cages and separated kids from their families.

Kamala and Joe opened the border to 10's of millions of unvetted illegal people. But they get a pat on the back from the Lefties.

Democrats never - ever tell the truth.

[jackpot269]

I'm shocked!
Vance suggests the left stole 2020 … by doing what his own campaign did

Vance couldn't say Trump lost. Instead, he reverted to a version of the same response he presented during that debate.
“Did Donald Trump lose the 2020 election?” he was asked.
“Did big technology companies censor a story that independent studies have suggested would have cost Trump millions of votes?” he replied.

And now the throughline: The Times’s Elon Musk story notes that the Trump campaign had a direct hand in now-X limiting a story about Vance.
Hackers linked to Iran reportedly obtained the briefing book compiled as Trump was vetting potential running mates. (His former vice president, Mike Pence, needed to be replaced on the ticket for noteworthy reasons.) The hackers shopped the briefing book around, finding few takers.
Independent journalist Ken Klippenstein bit, however, publishing the document on his website. And in short order, X banned Klippenstein’s account, purportedly because the linked document included personal information about Vance.

But also because the Trump campaign wanted it to be limited, according to the Times’s Elon Musk story.
“After a reporter’s publication of hacked Trump campaign information last month,” the story notes, “the campaign connected with X to prevent the circulation of links to the material on the platform, according to two people with knowledge of the events. X eventually blocked links to the material and suspended the reporter’s account.”
In 2020, Twitter blocked the New York Post story after warnings from the federal government — then run by Donald Trump! — that foreign actors might disseminate stolen information. They soon lifted that limit. In 2024, X blocked Klippenstein’s story in coordination with the Trump campaign.

Vance suggests the left stole 2020 … by doing what his own campaign did (msn.com)

[DwightShrute]

they did steal the election. They rigged it also. When the FBI tells social media companies that the Hunter laptop story is about to break, they all colluded to suppress the story. The NY Post, who broke the story, their Twitter was suspended and would remain suspend until they removed the story. The story about the Biden crime family making secret deals with the CCP and Ukraine. Then 51 former US intelligence official all colluded to lie to the public by signing a letter saying the Laptop was just Russian disinformation. They did did intentionally to effect the election. That is the definition of rigging or election interference or whatever you want to call it. Up to 17% of the people who voted for Biden in those swing states said they would have changed their vote if they knew about the laptop. Google it. That is more than enough to change the election results to Trump.

Here's evidence the election was stolen. Its undeniable. Only if you are willing to hear the truth. If you aren't, then you can keep on simply repeating the fake news liberal media's narrative and all the others that turned out to be lies as well like Russia collusion, fine people on both sides, Trump told people to drink bleach, Border Patrol on horseback whipped illegals, there was an insurrection on J6, and dozens more.

[jackpot269]

they did steal the election. They rigged it also. When the FBI tells social media companies that the Hunter laptop story is about to break, they all colluded to suppress the story. The NY Post, who broke the story, their Twitter was suspended and would remain suspend until they removed the story. The story about the Biden crime family making secret deals with the CCP and Ukraine. Then 51 former US intelligence official all colluded to lie to the public by signing a letter saying the Laptop was just Russian disinformation. They did did intentionally to effect the election. That is the definition of rigging or election interference or whatever you want to call it. Up to 17% of the people who voted for Biden in those swing states said they would have changed their vote if they knew about the laptop. Google it. That is more than enough to change the election results to Trump.

Here's evidence the election was stolen. Its undeniable. Only if you are willing to hear the truth. If you aren't, then you can keep on simply repeating the fake news liberal media's narrative and all the others that turned out to be lies as well like Russia collusion, fine people on both sides, Trump told people to drink bleach, Border Patrol on horseback whipped illegals, there was an insurrection on J6, and dozens more.

Levin is as biased, and believable as MSM and the other news outlets/personalities you talk about daily.

You think a lot more of social media companies, than I do. If they are as powerful as you think they are ( can take away your free speech or 1st amendment) then they absolutely got Trump elected in 2016.100% no doubt, he doesn't get elected without the Facebook push, that he got the last few months before the election.


About free speech or 1st amendment. Social media cannot take mine away from me. It's sad, that they have the ability to take yours, or anyone else's. I will never give them that power over me.

Your argument about the 2020 election is weak at best. There are many reasons why this is true, but the ones that come to mind right now are: you say nothing about Trump, Vance and Musk doing the same thing, or the E-mails Russia hacked in 2016. Once again you are being hypocritical.

For anyone that Dwight tells to show just one lie he has told, below is #2 in three days that I have pointed out. Just follow my post and I'll give you plenty.

'' Then 51 former US intelligence official all colluded to lie to the public by signing a letter saying the Laptop was just Russian disinformation.''

That is not what the signed document said. (or letter as you called it) I've told you this at least 10 times. You are being untruthful again.

'' Then 51 former US intelligence official all colluded to lie to the public by signing a letter saying the Laptop was just Russian disinformation. They did did intentionally to effect the election. That is the definition of rigging or election interference or whatever you want to call it.''

Just like 2016, with the Clinton E-mails. This was interference from another country. We should never allow other counties to decide who our POTUS will be. So, this is even worse assuming all you said was even true. We already know one line was not true.

Please don't ever say, ''only if you are willing to hear the truth,'' with all the untruthful things you post on a regular.
Plus, you simply keep on repeating,the lying right-wing media's narrative.

Levin would not know the truth, if it was a 150ft oak, that fell and landed on his head. He is committed to deception.

[jackpot269]

J.D. Vance Says Trump Was Right to Try to Steal the Election, Because of Twitter

The reason J.D. Vance has a chance to become vice-president of the United States is that, unlike Mike Pence, Donald Trump’s running mate on his two previous campaigns, he’s willing to repeat Trump’s false claim to have won the 2020 election. His support for the Big Lie is the essential act that has thrust him into his upward trajectory.

But Vance knows perfectly well that Trump did legitimately lose the 2020 election. And unlike Trump, who is unable to articulate linear arguments, Vance is a Yale-trained lawyer who holds a certain pride in his standing among fellow intellectuals, even as he postures as their class enemy. And so, even as he supports Trump’s lies, he cannot simply parrot them. He feels compelled to wrap them in a pseudo-intellectual veneer.
A new interview with Lulu Garcia-Navarro of the New York Times put Vance’s sweaty dishonesty on vivid, almost uncomfortable display. When first asked whether he believes Trump lost the 2020 election, Vance tries to deflect, as he did during the vice-presidential debate: “I think that Donald Trump and I have both raised a number of issues with the 2020 election, but we’re focused on the future. I think there’s an obsession here with focusing on 2020. I’m much more worried about what happened after 2020, which is a wide-open border, groceries that are unaffordable.”

Deflection is a familiar move for use when one’s allies do something unacceptable. A hackish response is to insist the unacceptable position should not be discussed because it is a distraction — a move that allows you to avoid endorsing it directly but avoids a breach within your own coalition. Conservatives hardly have a monopoly on the form of argument “Why are you angry about a bad thing done by my allies when you should be angry about a bad thing done by my opponents?” You’ll see some progressives pull it out any time the left does something indefensible. In the Trump era, though, this reflex has become possibly the most dominant tic of conservative rhetoric.

To read all of this very well written article.
J.D. Vance Says Trump Was Right to Try to Steal the Election, Because of Twitter (msn.com)

[jackpot269]

Trump tried to fix Immigration. He was attacked by the left relentlessly. Even accused of building cages and putting children in them. But when the truth came out, it turned out to be Obama and the democrats who built the cages and separated kids from their families.

Kamala and Joe opened the border to 10's of millions of unvetted illegal people. But they get a pat on the back from the Lefties.

Democrats never - ever tell the truth.

''But when the truth came out, it turned out to be Obama and the democrats who built the cages and separated kids from their families. ''

So, Mr. Trumps first order business as POTUS was to clean this up, get rid of the cages and stop the children from being away from their families?
Oh, OK I understand he had a few other important things to do first. So, it was 2nd? Oh, I see so on the 2nd day then? I get it, there was a lot. So, the 2nd week? Oh, but surly the 2nd month? After the 1st year? No, really after the 2nd year? Never mind.

Thought I had caught him doing the right thing, but nope just like Obama same ole same.

[slewfan]

''But when the truth came out, it turned out to be Obama and the democrats who built the cages and separated kids from their families. ''

So, Mr. Trumps first order business as POTUS was to clean this up, get rid of the cages and stop the children from being away from their families?
Oh, OK I understand he had a few other important things to do first. So, it was 2nd? Oh, I see so on the 2nd day then? I get it, there was a lot. So, the 2nd week? Oh, but surly the 2nd month? After the 1st year? No, really after the 2nd year? Never mind.

Thought I had caught him doing the right thing, but nope just like Obama same ole same.

You mean while the Democrats were attacking him along with the fake news with false Russian bullshat and rapes and all other kinds of things to keep him from governing and doing his job.

Despite all of the Democrat lies along with the fake news, he had one of the best economies for the middle class ever.

I think for someone who 'says' he's not a Democrat, you sure side with the left and slant the facts to favor them.

[jackpot269]

You mean while the Democrats were attacking him along with the fake news with false Russian bullshat and rapes and all other kinds of things to keep him from governing and doing his job.

Despite all of the Democrat lies along with the fake news, he had one of the best economies for the middle class ever.

I think for someone who 'says' he's not a Democrat, you sure side with the left and slant the facts to favor them.

If he can't stand the heat, get out of the Kitchen. I can explain what this means.

People on TV lie. What are you going to do? I don't know about most, but Trump is going to cry! Biggest crybaby to be POTUS, at least in my lifetime. Some on TV lie so bad, it cost their company 3/4 of a billion to stay out court.


Why do you think Russia was ''false Russian bullshat'' several went to jail over Russia. At least some plead guilty. Not found guilty, by a jury, but admitted to breaking the law.

One of the best economies ever? I did much better, in the mid to late 90's. I was no better off in Trumps first 3 years, than in Obama's last 4 years. Thats bad, to be no better than Obama.
Then covid hit, and Trump dropped the ball. We were back to a 2008 type economy.
I'm sure it was different for everyone.


If you think I'm a democrat that is fine, I've never given any money to anyone in politics,or had a card for a party, and I have never voted a straight ticket.

The GOP and Democrats- I follow no one blindly.
If I ever do it will be, JC. I can explain what this is, if you need me too.


''you sure side with the left and slant the facts to favor them.''

Well, everyone is entitled to their opinion. My goal when I post, is for it to be truthful. In my opinion the GOP supporters that post in these threads, cannot just be straight forward honest about anything. When you try to debate an issue, they CAN NOT STAY ON THE SUBJECT. Always spinning or going to something else.
Hypocritical about so many things one quick example: Biden had a fundraiser, and it was very successful. Then, on this forum the GOP talked shit for a week about the huge amount and it was elitest. The next weekend Trump had a record fundraiser, most ever or some bullshit, and it was all praise, about how he out did Biden, and it was great. ( Hypocritical) If it is wrong for one, its wrong for the other. There is way too much money in all of politics.

[jackpot269]

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• Claudia De la Cruz for President and Karina Garcia for Vice President (Independent)
• Rachele Fruit for President and Dennis Richter for Vice President (Independent)
• Robert F. Kennedy Jr. for President and Nicole Shanahan for Vice President (Independent)
• Jill Stein for President and Samson LeBeau Kpadenou for Vice President (Independent)

[slewfan]

If he can't stand the heat, get out of the Kitchen. I can explain what this means.

People on TV lie. What are you going to do? I don't know about most, but Trump is going to cry! Biggest crybaby to be POTUS, at least in my lifetime. Some on TV lie so bad, it cost their company 3/4 of a billion to stay out court.


Why do you think Russia was ''false Russian bullshat'' several went to jail over Russia. At least some plead guilty. Not found guilty, by a jury, but admitted to breaking the law.

One of the best economies ever? I did much better, in the mid to late 90's. I was no better off in Trumps first 3 years, than in Obama's last 4 years. Thats bad, to be no better than Obama.
Then covid hit, and Trump dropped the ball. We were back to a 2008 type economy.
I'm sure it was different for everyone.


If you think I'm a democrat that is fine, I've never given any money to anyone in politics,or had a card for a party, and I have never voted a straight ticket.

The GOP and Democrats- I follow no one blindly.
If I ever do it will be, JC. I can explain what this is, if you need me too.


''you sure side with the left and slant the facts to favor them.''

Well, everyone is entitled to their opinion. My goal when I post, is for it to be truthful. In my opinion the GOP supporters that post in these threads, cannot just be straight forward honest about anything. When you try to debate an issue, they CAN NOT STAY ON THE SUBJECT. Always spinning or going to something else.
Hypocritical about so many things one quick example: Biden had a fundraiser, and it was very successful. Then, on this forum the GOP talked shit for a week about the huge amount and it was elitest. The next weekend Trump had a record fundraiser, most ever or some bullshit, and it was all praise, about how he out did Biden, and it was great. ( Hypocritical) If it is wrong for one, its wrong for the other. There is way too much money in all of politics.

If your goal is to be truthful, why use so much conjecture.?. If the media lies and you print their stories, then you are lying also.?.

You have TDS like so many others. So many of your statements are untrue and hypocritical. We all make mistakes. Some more than others.

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When you try to debate an issue, they CAN NOT STAY ON THE SUBJECT. Always spinning or going to something else.

Imagine if any media outlet acted that way, there would be outrage!

Oh wait a sec, they love Newsmax, OAN and Breitbart... so maybe not, if it spins the way they want to hear it anyway. "Drone Vision".

[DwightShrute]

Levin is as biased, and believable as MSM and the other news outlets/personalities you talk about daily.

You think a lot more of social media companies, than I do. If they are as powerful as you think they are ( can take away your free speech or 1st amendment) then they absolutely got Trump elected in 2016.100% no doubt, he doesn't get elected without the Facebook push, that he got the last few months before the election.


About free speech or 1st amendment. Social media cannot take mine away from me. It's sad, that they have the ability to take yours, or anyone else's. I will never give them that power over me.

Your argument about the 2020 election is weak at best. There are many reasons why this is true, but the ones that come to mind right now are: you say nothing about Trump, Vance and Musk doing the same thing, or the E-mails Russia hacked in 2016. Once again you are being hypocritical.

For anyone that Dwight tells to show just one lie he has told, below is #2 in three days that I have pointed out. Just follow my post and I'll give you plenty.

'' Then 51 former US intelligence official all colluded to lie to the public by signing a letter saying the Laptop was just Russian disinformation.''

That is not what the signed document said. (or letter as you called it) I've told you this at least 10 times. You are being untruthful again.

'' Then 51 former US intelligence official all colluded to lie to the public by signing a letter saying the Laptop was just Russian disinformation. They did did intentionally to effect the election. That is the definition of rigging or election interference or whatever you want to call it.''

Just like 2016, with the Clinton E-mails. This was interference from another country. We should never allow other counties to decide who our POTUS will be. So, this is even worse assuming all you said was even true. We already know one line was not true.

Please don't ever say, ''only if you are willing to hear the truth,'' with all the untruthful things you post on a regular.
Plus, you simply keep on repeating,the lying right-wing media's narrative.

Levin would not know the truth, if it was a 150ft oak, that fell and landed on his head. He is committed to deception.

Levin doesn't hide the fact that he is biased. Everyone is biased. I am biased. You are biased. The difference between Levin and the MSM is that he doesn't pretend he's not biased. They do. Being biased doesn't mean you are wrong either. Tons of biased people are right about all sorts of things quite often. What you are doing is using a lazy argument when attempting to somehow diminish the facts he presented by saying he is biased. That's is silly.

You said you watched the video before. Is there something that you can dispute that isn't factual? I doubt it. He may be biased, but he is highly intelligent and he does his homework. If anyone watched the video, there is no possible way you can deny the election was stolen.

Now, back to the 51 former intelligence officials. Same applies. More than once I have shown you how they deliberately worded the headline in order to purposely deceive the public.

Hunter Biden story is Russian disinfo, dozens of former intel officials say
More than 50 former intelligence officials signed a letter casting doubt on the provenance of a New York Post story on the former vice president’s son.

More than 50 former senior intelligence officials have signed on to a letter outlining their belief that the recent disclosure of emails allegedly belonging to Joe Biden’s son “has all the classic earmarks of a Russian information operation.”

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/19/hunter-biden-story-russian-disinfo-430276

The fact that the MSM went with that same false narrative right up to the election is a disgrace on journalism. They pushed the lie. Why? Well, because it works. The proof is that 4 years later, you are still making excuses for the lie. Read the friggen headline. That is from Politico. They purposely lied while claiming they are a fact checker with no bias.

So claiming to be unbiased but lying is ok but being biased but telling the truth isn't?

And I never even mentioned the big Tech colluded to suppress the Hunter lap top story. Twitter suspended the NY Post's Twitter page unless they agreed to remove the story. The 2nd oldest paper in the country was gaged because their reporting did look good for the democrats. The FBI told Facebook to bury the story. YouTube blocked it. Big Tech blocked anyone from downloading the Parler app because they said they would allow people to read the article. You know, the first amendment.

I mean, how can you possible say the election wasn't rigged?

[slewfan]

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[jackpot269]

Levin doesn't hide the fact that he is biased. Everyone is biased. I am biased. You are biased. The difference between Levin and the MSM is that he doesn't pretend he's not biased. They do. Being biased doesn't mean you are wrong either. Tons of biased people are right about all sorts of things quite often. What you are doing is using a lazy argument when attempting to somehow diminish the facts he presented by saying he is biased. That's is silly.

You said you watched the video before. Is there something that you can dispute that isn't factual? I doubt it. He may be biased, but he is highly intelligent and he does his homework. If anyone watched the video, there is no possible way you can deny the election was stolen.

Now, back to the 51 former intelligence officials. Same applies. More than once I have shown you how they deliberately worded the headline in order to purposely deceive the public.

Hunter Biden story is Russian disinfo, dozens of former intel officials say
More than 50 former intelligence officials signed a letter casting doubt on the provenance of a New York Post story on the former vice president’s son.

More than 50 former senior intelligence officials have signed on to a letter outlining their belief that the recent disclosure of emails allegedly belonging to Joe Biden’s son “has all the classic earmarks of a Russian information operation.”

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/19/hunter-biden-story-russian-disinfo-430276

The fact that the MSM went with that same false narrative right up to the election is a disgrace on journalism. They pushed the lie. Why? Well, because it works. The proof is that 4 years later, you are still making excuses for the lie. Read the friggen headline. That is from Politico. They purposely lied while claiming they are a fact checker with no bias.

So claiming to be unbiased but lying is ok but being biased but telling the truth isn't?

And I never even mentioned the big Tech colluded to suppress the Hunter lap top story. Twitter suspended the NY Post's Twitter page unless they agreed to remove the story. The 2nd oldest paper in the country was gaged because their reporting did look good for the democrats. The FBI told Facebook to bury the story. YouTube blocked it. Big Tech blocked anyone from downloading the Parler app because they said they would allow people to read the article. You know, the first amendment.

I mean, how can you possible say the election wasn't rigged?

I didn't make any excuses. I said you lied about the "letter" that more than 50 former senior intelligence officials signed.

almost 4 years, and no creditable evidence that will stand up in court. Just talk. With all the money and investigating nothing to prove a rigged election.
Why, because there is a 99.99999% chance it was not. Just a sore loser

[DwightShrute]

I didn't make any excuses. I said you lied about the "letter" that more than 50 former senior intelligence officials signed.

almost 4 years, and no creditable evidence that will stand up in court. Just talk. With all the money and investigating nothing to prove a rigged election.
Why, because there is a 99.99999% chance it was not. Just a sore loser

Come on. Hunter is going to prison but will be pardoned by papa. Biden's former business partner testified at all the secret deals the Biden family made with the CCP and the Ukraine. How many offshore LLC's does a family have to open up? The Biden's have powerful allies. wake up.

[jackpot269]

Come on. Hunter is going to prison but will be pardoned by papa. Biden's former business partner testified at all the secret deals the Biden family made with the CCP and the Ukraine. How many offshore LLC's does a family have to open up? The Biden's have powerful allies. wake up.

If he committed crimes, he should pay the price for the crime, if that includes jail time, he should be sentenced, just as I would be. Same for Trump. Let a jury decide after they hear ALL THE EVEIDENCE.

A jury, not some know it all's on a sports forum.


Your alarm is going off again. Did you hit snooze; I know a good fix for that.

[DwightShrute]

If he committed crimes, he should pay the price for the crime, if that includes jail time, he should be sentenced, just as I would be. Same for Trump. Let a jury decide after they hear ALL THE EVEIDENCE.

A jury, not some know it all's on a sports forum.


Your alarm is going off again. Did you hit snooze; I know a good fix for that.

they won't let you see the crimes. They are protecting Biden. His son will pay until his daddy pardons him.

Speaking of evidence. Hillary bleach bitted her computer, had he staff smash all her devices with hammers, and deleted 33,000 email AFTER getting an FBI subpoena to hand them all over. She even admitted it. She joked about it. Nothing happened to her. Trump has 34 guilty charges for paying off Sloppy Daniels which isn't even against the law.

Biden has classifies docs in several places including his open garage where his crackhead son lived and the special council didn't charge him because he said he was unable to comprehend what he did while at teh same time he was supposedly able to be president. Oh but Trump had docs too. Let's raid his place. While we are at it, lets fine Trump 500 million for for inflating the value of his property and ban him and his family from doing business in NY even thought the bank where her borrowed the money testified on Trump's behalf saying he repaid the loan, plus interest, one time as he's always done and they would be glad to lean him more money anytime he wants. Your hatred of Trump has clouded your judgement. Wake the fukk up man.

Do you not see what is happened? Are you that much in denial? This is the definition of election interference and apparently you (and a handful of others) are the only ones who refuse to see it. They are playing you and you are letting them.

[19th Hole]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Reality 👇 <a href="https://t.co/ADrs6rI1OZ">pic.twitter.com/ADrs6rI1OZ</a></p>&mdash; TheBitchIsBack😋 (@hotnostril) <a href="https://twitter.com/hotnostril/status/1846508131724993005?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >October 16, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[19th Hole]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-media-max-width="560"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">THREAD: In addition to his military career &amp; drunk driving arrest, there’s another topic about which <a href="https://twitter.com/Tim_Walz?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Tim_Walz</a> has been lying for political purposes —the conception of his own children. Since IVF treatments entered the news earlier this year, Walz has been repeatedly claiming he… <a href="https://t.co/hHdfSsiGaI">pic.twitter.com/hHdfSsiGaI</a></p>&mdash; Tom Elliott (@tomselliott) <a href="https://twitter.com/tomselliott/status/1825898567304728890?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >August 20, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-media-max-width="560"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Helpful list: <a href="https://t.co/7oKbxufyR7">https://t.co/7oKbxufyR7</a></p>&mdash; Tom Elliott (@tomselliott) <a href="https://twitter.com/tomselliott/status/1825919673826693208?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >August 20, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>



<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-media-max-width="560"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Tim Walz's wife confirms she did not undergo IVF as the Governor and VP candidate stated several times. DETAILS: <a href="https://t.co/mp0jwwZkDz">https://t.co/mp0jwwZkDz</a></p>&mdash; VOZ (@VozMediaUSA) <a href="https://twitter.com/VozMediaUSA/status/1826230698786869622?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >August 21, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>



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[jackpot269]

"Speaking of evidence. Hillary bleach bitted her computer, had he staff smash all her devices with hammers, and deleted 33,000 email AFTER getting an FBI subpoena to hand them all over. She even admitted it. She joked about it. Nothing happened to her. Trump has 34 guilty charges for paying off Sloppy Daniels which isn't even against the law."

Did the DOJ not recovery theses. After a federal judge order that they try? Did Trump not lie and say he was going to lock her up. You ever wonder, why after he got won the election you never heard about it again? He got them votes from the ones he lied to and then they forgot.

Your evidence was not good enough for a court or the GOP congress. See sports forum know it all's. Just talk.

That alarm is going off again! That snooze is a bitch. I got a fix for that snooze button.

[slewfan]

they won't let you see the crimes. They are protecting Biden. His son will pay until his daddy pardons him.

Speaking of evidence. Hillary bleach bitted her computer, had he staff smash all her devices with hammers, and deleted 33,000 email AFTER getting an FBI subpoena to hand them all over. She even admitted it. She joked about it. Nothing happened to her. Trump has 34 guilty charges for paying off Sloppy Daniels which isn't even against the law.

Biden has classifies docs in several places including his open garage where his crackhead son lived and the special council didn't charge him because he said he was unable to comprehend what he did while at teh same time he was supposedly able to be president. Oh but Trump had docs too. Let's raid his place. While we are at it, lets fine Trump 500 million for for inflating the value of his property and ban him and his family from doing business in NY even thought the bank where her borrowed the money testified on Trump's behalf saying he repaid the loan, plus interest, one time as he's always done and they would be glad to lean him more money anytime he wants. Your hatred of Trump has clouded your judgement. Wake the fukk up man.

Do you not see what is happened? Are you that much in denial? This is the definition of election interference and apparently you (and a handful of others) are the only ones who refuse to see it. They are playing you and you are letting them.

If Hunters last name was ''Trump''. He would have been arrested years ago. It is undeniable.

[19th Hole]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-media-max-width="560"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">JUST IN - <a href="https://twitter.com/JDVance?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@JDVance</a> Slams Reporter for Repeatedly Asking About 2020 Election:<br><br>&quot;Do your job and focus on the problems the American people care about, rather than BULLSHlT from 4 years ago.&quot; �������� <a href="https://t.co/i04XG57COZ">pic.twitter.com/i04XG57COZ</a></p>&mdash; ��Qᵁᴱᴱᴺ��ᴹᴬᴳᴬ��ᵁᴸᵀᴿA�� (@QueenMAGAUltra) <a href="https://twitter.com/QueenMAGAUltra/status/1846684743544324424?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >October 16, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[b1slickguy]

"So the burden of proof to determine whether or not their food is dangerous is actually the guy trying to turn his product into profit and not the governmental organization whose job it is to keep us safe."

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Why would the FDA approve putting potentially DANGEROUS chemicals like food dyes into our food? Well, maybe it's because payments from Big Food and Big Pharma make up 46 PERCENT of the FDA's funding? Let's call this what it is: BRIBERY. <a href="https://t.co/pJvtdK039b">pic.twitter.com/pJvtdK039b</a></p>&mdash; Glenn Beck (@glennbeck) <a href="https://twitter.com/glennbeck/status/1846727831797080432?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >October 17, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[slewfan]

This guy literally destroyed CNN in 4 minutes. These talking head gals are nasty and narrow minded.


https://youtu.be/yFf_1-Eoru4?t=234