Trump Legal Cases

**DwightShrute** · 09-26-23, 05:56 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Oh -<br><br>(but according to Rupert, 2020 election integrity was unquestionable)<br><br>Ok <a href="https://t.co/g1tuBqwBEF">pic.twitter.com/g1tuBqwBEF</a></p>— Rasmussen Reports (@Rasmussen_Poll) <a href="https://twitter.com/Rasmussen_Poll/status/1706803086864372208?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >September 26, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

**Mike Huntertz** · 09-26-23, 06:27 PM

What does Hunter Biden have to do with the orange turds legal cases?
It would not be admissible in court as a defense so why bring it up in this thread?
This is about the orange fraud you love so much.

Donald Trump "repeatedly" misrepresented his wealth - by up to $3.6bn (£3bn) - to banks and insurers, a New York judge has ruled.

Trump liable for fraud, judge finds in New York civil case - BBC News

the turd is a very bad crooked person...

**DwightShrute** · 09-26-23, 07:03 PM

Originally posted by Mike Huntertz

What does Hunter Biden have to do with the orange turds legal cases?
It would not be admissible in court as a defense so why bring it up in this thread?
This is about the orange fraud you love so much.

Donald Trump "repeatedly" misrepresented his wealth - by up to $3.6bn (£3bn) - to banks and insurers, a New York judge has ruled.

Trump liable for fraud, judge finds in New York civil case - BBC News

the turd is a very bad crooked person...

Biden is weaponizing the justice department was against the leading contender of the opposition for next year’s election is what it has to do with it. Wake up my friend!

as far as misrepresenting his worth, it’s subjective.

**Mike Huntertz** · 09-26-23, 07:14 PM

Originally posted by DwightShrute

Biden is weaponizing the justice department was against the leading contender of the opposition for next year’s election is what it has to do with it. Wake up my friend!

as fast as misrepresenting his worth, it’s subjective.

I'm awake, how is Hunter Biden weaponizing anything, he's dirty like the orange turd.
He's not POTUS.
No light in the rabbit hole has you a little drowzy?

**DwightShrute** · 09-26-23, 07:25 PM

Originally posted by Mike Huntertz

I'm awake, how is Hunter Biden weaponizing anything, he's dirty like the orange turd.
He's not POTUS.
No light in the rabbit hole has you a little drowzy?

When they are telling you where to look, they are telling you where not to look. It’s just a distraction from Biden’s corruption and him destroying the country with all the shut he’s doing. How can anyone not see this?

**Mike Huntertz** · 09-26-23, 07:35 PM

It's very difficult for a sane person to believe that is a few short years Biden took over all the judiciary?
He doesn't have control of everything and isn't smart enough to pull it off.
the orange turd has more charges against him than Santos has told lies. And some idiots think he's innocent in all of them.
How anyone can believe he's a choir boy is beyond me???

**DwightShrute** · 09-26-23, 08:03 PM

Mike, you will be voting for trump next year. If you love your country that is.

**DwightShrute** · 09-26-23, 08:49 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">BREAKING: Months after Biden announced his candidacy in 2019, the Chinese sent Hunter a quarter of a million dollars to Joe Biden's Wilmington Delaware address. Joe Biden shook the hand of the guy that sent Hunter the money, had coffee with him, spoke to him on the phone and… <a href="https://t.co/dXR1ZlSQor">pic.twitter.com/dXR1ZlSQor</a></p>— Jesse Watters (@JesseBWatters) <a href="https://twitter.com/JesseBWatters/status/1706836169692959203?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >September 27, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

**DwightShrute** · 09-26-23, 08:51 PM

Originally posted by Mike Huntertz

What does Hunter Biden have to do with the orange turds legal cases?
It would not be admissible in court as a defense so why bring it up in this thread?
This is about the orange fraud you love so much.

Donald Trump "repeatedly" misrepresented his wealth - by up to $3.6bn (£3bn) - to banks and insurers, a New York judge has ruled.

Trump liable for fraud, judge finds in New York civil case - BBC News

the turd is a very bad crooked person...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">In an attempt to destroy my father and kick him out of New York, a Judge just ruled that Mar-a-Lago, in Palm Beach Florida, is only worth approximate “$18 Million dollars”… Mar-a-Lago is speculated to be worth we’ll over a billion dollars making it arguably the most valuable… <a href="https://t.co/b0U6J5ykWJ">pic.twitter.com/b0U6J5ykWJ</a></p>— Eric Trump (@EricTrump) <a href="https://twitter.com/EricTrump/status/1706795629505114508?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >September 26, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

**Mike Huntertz** · 09-26-23, 10:38 PM

Originally posted by DwightShrute

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">In an attempt to destroy my father and kick him out of New York, a Judge just ruled that Mar-a-Lago, in Palm Beach Florida, is only worth approximate “$18 Million dollars”… Mar-a-Lago is speculated to be worth we’ll over a billion dollars making it arguably the most valuable… <a rel="nofollow" href="https://t.co/b0U6J5ykWJ">pic.twitter.com/b0U6J5ykWJ</a></p>— Eric Trump (@EricTrump) <a rel="nofollow" href="https://twitter.com/EricTrump/status/1706795629505114508?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >September 26, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

son of turd is a liar like the orange turd.....a billion dollars....hahahahaha

The judge determined that the orange turd:

Overvalued Mar-a-Lago by 2,300% in one financial statement

**Mike Huntertz** · 09-26-23, 10:41 PM

WEALTHInside a $218 million private island in Palm Beach — Florida’s most expensive home for sale

PUBLISHED SAT, MAR 25 20239:00 AM EDT

Inside a $218 million private island in Palm Beach, Florida (cnbc.com)

**BOA12** · 09-27-23, 05:30 AM

Originally posted by Mike Huntertz

WEALTHInside a $218 million private island in Palm Beach — Florida’s most expensive home for sale

PUBLISHED SAT, MAR 25 20239:00 AM EDT

Inside a $218 million private island in Palm Beach, Florida (cnbc.com)

The party of Alternate truths, facts & reality #1 candidate doing what his ignorant base wants, lie non stop about

EVERYTHING, their hero, never mine.

**DwightShrute** · 09-27-23, 09:17 AM

Originally posted by Mike Huntertz

WEALTHInside a $218 million private island in Palm Beach — Florida’s most expensive home for sale

PUBLISHED SAT, MAR 25 20239:00 AM EDT

Inside a $218 million private island in Palm Beach, Florida (cnbc.com)

as I said before, its subjective. Many times its worth what someone is willing to pay for it. I am sure you must be aware of this. Look at cars/trucks. They might be the most overpriced things in society. That and real estate. Is a brand new truck worth $35,000? Its got an engine and 4 wheels basically. In my opinion it should be $8000 or so. But people will pay $35,000 so that is the price. My neighbor just bought one. Nice red truck. The house across the street was on the market for a couple year for $449,000. Last month someone bought it for $790,000.

Access that reasonable part of your brain Mike. Unlike a few posters here, I know you have it.

**Mike Huntertz** · 09-27-23, 10:43 AM

Originally posted by DwightShrute

as I said before, its subjective. Many times its worth what someone is willing to pay for it. I am sure you must be aware of this. Look at cars/trucks. They might be the most overpriced things in society. That and real estate. Is a brand new truck worth $35,000? Its got an engine and 4 wheels basically. In my opinion it should be $8000 or so. But people will pay $35,000 so that is the price. My neighbor just bought one. Nice red truck. The house across the street was on the market for a couple year for $449,000. Last month someone bought it for $790,000.

Access that reasonable part of your brain Mike. Unlike a few posters here, I know you have it.

You think that if the most expensive house in Florida is worth $218 Million that someone would pay the orange turd a billion dollars when it is accessed at $18 Million. You're smarter than that.

Engoron wrote, citing multiple arguments made by defense to justify the allegedly inflated valuations of Trump's assets. "That is a fantasy world, not the real world."

You are also living in a fantasy world..... deep down in the rabbit hole!

Who's being unreasonable?

**Hareeba!** · 09-27-23, 02:54 PM

Trump Disputed $26M Mar-A-Lago Valuation as Too High in 2020

Judge Engoron simply cited undisputed facts and Trump’s words

**DwightShrute** · 09-27-23, 03:03 PM

Originally posted by Mike Huntertz

You think that if the most expensive house in Florida is worth $218 Million that someone would pay the orange turd a billion dollars when it is accessed at $18 Million. You're smarter than that.

Engoron wrote, citing multiple arguments made by defense to justify the allegedly inflated valuations of Trump's assets. "That is a fantasy world, not the real world."

You are also living in a fantasy world..... deep down in the rabbit hole!

Who's being unreasonable?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">If Mar-a-Lago is only worth $18M, I’d like to make a public cash offer to buy the property for $18M. <a href="https://t.co/pj43AfO7Z8">https://t.co/pj43AfO7Z8</a></p>— Patrick Bet-David (@patrickbetdavid) <a href="https://twitter.com/patrickbetdavid/status/1707099327188074983?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >September 27, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

**Hareeba!** · 09-27-23, 04:23 PM

**Optional** · 09-27-23, 08:11 PM

There is no use arguing about mar-a-lago value.

A big proportion of the Trump valuation is based on potential use with it being broken up for a residential estate.

Any headline valuations need to explain on what basis its being valued but that would not make a sexy headline.

The New York case is a law twisting hacket job that will probably blow up in the prosecutors face at some point.

**DwightShrute** · 09-27-23, 08:17 PM

Originally posted by Optional

There is no use arguing about mar-a-lago value.

A big proportion of the Trump valuation is based on potential use with it being broken up for a residential estate.

Any headline valuations need to explain on what basis its being valued but that would not make a sexy headline.

The New York case is a law twisting hacket job that will probably blow up in the prosecutors face at some point.

Almost certainly.

What its worth today compared to what it would be worth if its subdivided are totally different. Two things can be similarly true when it comes to land value.

This really shows it imo

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">So simple yet some can’t get it.��<a href="https://t.co/uSF4oqJbh8">pic.twitter.com/uSF4oqJbh8</a></p>— I Meme Therefore I Am �� (@ImMeme0) <a href="https://twitter.com/ImMeme0/status/1707173044295193003?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >September 27, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

**Hareeba!** · 09-27-23, 08:32 PM

Originally posted by Optional

There is no use arguing about mar-a-lago value.

A big proportion of the Trump valuation is based on potential use with it being broken up for a residential estate.

Any headline valuations need to explain on what basis its being valued but that would not make a sexy headline.

The New York case is a law twisting hacket job that will probably blow up in the prosecutors face at some point.

Mar-a-Lago was designated a National Historic Landmark in 1969, making it monetarily less valuable to a potential buyer. It can't be developed or turned into a single-family estate. It's deed requires it to remain a club, which radically reduces its resale value.

**Optional** · 09-27-23, 08:42 PM

^^^ yes the 18 million figure seems even more stupidly low than the Billion figure sounds stupidly high.

Not sure what the New York clown show thinks they are up to. Even if they convict him it will only be fuel on the Trump has been unfairly prosected fires.

I suspect many of those that support it now don't understand how bad what they are doing really is, and will look once torn apart if they get a "win".

**Optional** · 09-27-23, 08:44 PM

Originally posted by Hareeba!

Mar-a-Lago was designated a National Historic Landmark in 1969, making it monetarily less valuable to a potential buyer. It can't be developed or turned into a single-family estate. It's deed requires it to remain a club, which radically reduces its resale value.

Yes, there is apparently a signed agreement from Trump to not break it up, which definitely undermines his valuation based on that premise.

But a court making the ridiculous assertion of an 18 mill valuation makes the system look even more corrupt than Trump's valuation games.

Dumb dumb move by the court imho.

**Hareeba!** · 09-27-23, 08:56 PM

Originally posted by Optional

Yes, there is apparently a signed agreement from Trump to not break it up, which definitely undermines his valuation based on that premise.

But a court making the ridiculous assertion of an 18 mill valuation makes the system look even more corrupt than Trump's valuation games.

Dumb dumb move by the court imho.

It wasn't the Court, it was the Palm Beach County assessor which appraised Mar-a-Lago's market value to be between $18 million and $27.6 million.

Trump's fraud was in putting it down in excess of $400 million

**Optional** · 09-27-23, 09:05 PM

Originally posted by Hareeba!

It wasn't the Court, it was the Palm Beach County assessor which appraised Mar-a-Lago's market value to be between $18 million and $27.6 million.

Trump's fraud was in putting it down in excess of $400 million

I did not realize. Apologies to the "dumb dumb" judge.

I was the dumb dumb sucked in by this...

$18 mill remains a ridiculously low overall valuation for the property though. Maybe the valuation is land value only or soemthing like that to be so low.

I still think this New York case cannot hurt Trump and will possibly help him as it runs out. Their use of an out of jurisdiction federal law to ramp up the misdemeanor activity to a felony should not be supported by anyone of any political persuasion.

**DwightShrute** · 09-27-23, 09:19 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">IT'S TRUE!!!�� <a href="https://t.co/UQn6HvROAR">pic.twitter.com/UQn6HvROAR</a></p>— il Donaldo Trumpo (@PapiTrumpo) <a href="https://twitter.com/PapiTrumpo/status/1707217154825756750?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >September 28, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

**Hareeba!** · 09-28-23, 02:46 PM

Appeals court rejects TFG's request to delay civil trial in wake of fraud ruling that threatens business empire

The biggest loser in American history

**DwightShrute** · 09-28-23, 03:13 PM

Originally posted by Hareeba!

Appeals court rejects TFG's request to delay civil trial in wake of fraud ruling that threatens business empire

The biggest loser in American history

**getaloadoffatso** · 09-28-23, 03:39 PM

I know nothing about real estate values, but I saw where the people who list homes in that area said it would list for 300 million today

These people were not political in nature, just listing agents who agreed on that price

Once again, I know nothing except for the fact that the 18 million evaluation is beyond ridiculous

**Hareeba!** · 09-28-23, 03:59 PM

Originally posted by getaloadoffatso

I know nothing about real estate values, but I saw where the people who list homes in that area said it would list for 300 million today

These people were not political in nature, just listing agents who agreed on that price

Once again, I know nothing except for the fact that the 18 million evaluation is beyond ridiculous

Tell that to the Palm Beach County Assessor, who, unlike you, I'd imagine would know.

And ask why Trump contested the $26 odd million valuation 3 years ago as being too high.

**DwightShrute** · 09-28-23, 04:02 PM

Originally posted by Hareeba!

Tell that to the Palm Beach County Assessor, who, unlike you, I'd imagine would know.

And ask why Trump contested the $26 odd million valuation 3 years ago as being too high.

so he could pay lower property taxes.

**Hareeba!** · 09-28-23, 04:57 PM

Greg Casar exposing absurd GOP hypocrisy with a simple request for a show of hands

https://twitter.com/i/status/1707500991635951863

**Mike Huntertz** · 09-28-23, 11:50 PM

Originally posted by DwightShrute

so he could pay lower property taxes.

He contests a 26M valuation to avoid taxes and then talks about it's worth increasing expontionally?
Give me a break!

**BOA12** · 09-29-23, 03:08 AM

Originally posted by Hareeba!

Best place for the face of the master race.

**BOA12** · 09-29-23, 03:22 AM

Originally posted by Optional

There is no use arguing about mar-a-lago value.

A big proportion of the Trump valuation is based on potential use with it being broken up for a residential estate.

Any headline valuations need to explain on what basis its being valued but that would not make a sexy headline.

The New York case is a law twisting hacket job that will probably blow up in the prosecutors face at some point.

This post gave dwitwit a woody.

**Hareeba!** · 09-29-23, 08:15 PM

Jack Smith's prosecutors weigh in on Trump's campaign spox posting a video of him holding a Glock.
Trump "was caught potentially violating his conditions of release," they write.