Trump Legal Cases

[jackpot269]

So why are Jan 6 defendants sitting in jail with no bail waiting for trails due to constant delays by the prosecution ?

Stripping away the opportunity to prepare for trial is tantamount to denying altogether the assistance of counsel for the defense .


Oh , and telling his defense attorney a good lawyer would start preparing a defense once they knew there was a grand jury investigation underway is a joke . Just like her .

I didn't know there were still j6 defends waiting on court date in jail with no bail. That should never happen. It's been 2.5 years.
Plenty of defendants have to stay in jail while they prepare a defense but 2.5 years with no bail no court is bullshit for anyone.

So you are saying the DC judge is as bad as the Florida judge just the other way? I know Florida judge already had some rulings over turned.

[jt315]

I didn't know there were still j6 defends waiting on court date in jail with no bail. That should never happen. It's been 2.5 years.
Plenty of defendants have to stay in jail while they prepare a defense but 2.5 years with no bail no court is bullshit for anyone.

So you are saying the DC judge is as bad as the Florida judge just the other way? I know Florida judge already had some rulings over turned.

Part of the reason you don’t know about Jan 6 defendants rotting in prison cells waiting for trial is a complicit mainstream media . They are activists , not journalists .

As far as I know , the only overturned ruling by the Florida judge was her request for a special master .
She also wants the prosecution to know why a DC grand jury was empaneled when the alleged crimes committed were in Florida .

The present and prior comments by the DC judge should disqualify her immediately . But it’s the swamp and she won’t be touched .

[DwightShrute]

[Mike Huntertz]

Disgusting how the Dems in power are going after Trump like this right before an election!

Going after the orange turd???
He has been indicted by a jury of regular Americans(Dems, Rep and Ind,) who weighted the evidence and thought there was enough evidence to go to trial. 4 TIMES! That is how the system works.
If some one robs a store do you think the police are "going after him" or following the laws of the land.
Get out of the turd rabbit hole for a second or two.

[jackpot269]

How many got out on bail, and was never jailed? Not that I agree with your reasoning.

[ByeShea]

Going after the orange turd???
He has been indicted by a jury of regular Americans(Dems, Rep and Ind,) who weighted the evidence and thought there was enough evidence to go to trial. 4 TIMES! That is how the system works.
If some one robs a store do you think the police are "going after him" or following the laws of the land.
Get out of the turd rabbit hole for a second or two.

Equal justice is how the system works. Not selective justice.

Also using RICO statutes in Georgia to arrest Trump and his legal team over charges that clearly will viewed interpretively (in other words, difficult to prove)? He's got a court trial the day before Super Tuesday?

Do you not see how petty and transparent this is? Did you also think the Trump mug shot was a good idea politically? It was not.

[DwightShrute]

Equal justice is how the system works. Not selective justice.

Also using RICO statutes in Georgia to arrest Trump and his legal team over charges that clearly will viewed interpretively (in other words, difficult to prove)? He's got a court trial the day before Super Tuesday?

Do you not see how petty and transparent this is? Did you also think the Trump mug shot was a good idea politically? It was not.

When you watch CNN and other fake news outlets all the time, you will already get the sense he's guilty and likely won't know that the defense has no right to state their case to the grand jury. Its political like you said. Like we all know it is.

This is banana republic shit.

[d2bets]

When you watch CNN and other fake news outlets all the time, you will already get the sense he's guilty and likely won't know that the defense has no right to state their case to the grand jury. Its political like you said. Like we all know it is.

This is banana republic shit.

Who cares what the media says. The courts are going to give Trump due process just like every other defendant. Literally the opposite of Banana Republic shit. Is France a Banana Republic too? Sarkozy was prosecuted recently. In Banana Republics, leaders are above the law. Here, they are not. It's not perfect, but definitely not a Banana Republic. If Trump could shield himself from prosecution by virtue of running for or holding office, that would be Banana Republic Shit.

[Mike Huntertz]

McConnell is senile now, Biden is close and the orange turd is next....maybe nominate some younger people?

[d2bets]

McConnell is senile now, Biden is close and the orange turd is next....maybe nominate some younger people?

No more boomers. Gen-X to the rescue.

[Mike Huntertz]

No more boomers. Gen-X to the rescue.

Any Gen-will do just not a gaggle of geriatrics running the country!

[OldBill]

State election officials prepare for efforts to disqualify Trump under 14th Amendment

State election officials prepare for efforts to disqualify Trump under 14th Amendment
Efforts to keep former President Donald Trump off the 2024 ballot under the 14th Amendment are gaining momentum as election officials in key states are preparing for or starting to respond to legal challenges to Trump's candidacy.
The argument to disqualify Trump from appearing on primary or general election ballots in 2024 boils down to Section 3 of the U.S. Constitution's 14th Amendment, which states that an elected official is not eligible to assume public office if that person "engaged in insurrection or rebellion against" the United States, or had "given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof,"

Several advocacy groups have said that Trump's actions on Jan. 6, 2021, fit that criteria -- that he directly engaged in an insurrection. The legal theory has been pursued, unsuccessfully, against a few other elected Republicans; arguing their actions around Jan. 6 and support for overturning the 2020 election results amounted to the disqualifying behavior.
Trump has denied any involvement in the attack on the Capitol.

The push to disqualify Trump under this constitutional clause gained more traction when two members of the conservative Federalist Society, William Baude and Michael Stokes Paulsen, recently supported the idea in the pages of the Pennsylvania Law Review. Following the Baude and Paulsen article, retired conservative federal appeals judge J. Michael Luttig

Michigan fields its first 14th Amendment lawsuit

Robert Davis -- widely known in Michigan as a citizen activist who serially sues state politicians -- on Monday filed a lawsuit that urges Secretary of State Benson to declare Trump is ineligible to run for office.

[DwightShrute]

Who cares what the media says. The courts are going to give Trump due process just like every other defendant. Literally the opposite of Banana Republic shit. Is France a Banana Republic too? Sarkozy was prosecuted recently. In Banana Republics, leaders are above the law. Here, they are not. It's not perfect, but definitely not a Banana Republic. If Trump could shield himself from prosecution by virtue of running for or holding office, that would be Banana Republic Shit.

Lol

[DwightShrute]

They are gonna try and assassinate Trump because everything else they are trying is only making him more popular.

[Optional]

When you watch CNN and other fake news outlets all the time, you will already get the sense he's guilty and likely won't know that the defense has no right to state their case to the grand jury. Its political like you said. Like we all know it is.

This is banana republic shit.

I'm not even American and know that a grand jury is not an adversarial procedure. It's to hear the prosecution case and decide if charges are warranted, which are then tested in a court case.


So you don't respect the grand jury system.

As well as not respecting the voting system.

And not respecting the court system to decide anything.

And not respecting the legal system to charge people where needed.

And not respecting the federal investigative bodies.


And yet YOU are the one constantly saying other people hate America???

Just in case you are not aware you are the frontline tool of anti-American forces and should never claim to like or respect the country ever again. You are an enemy of Western culture and freedom Dwight.

[BOA12]

I'm not even American and know that a grand jury is not an adversarial procedure. It's to hear the prosecution case and decide if charges are warranted, which are then tested in a court case.


So you don't respect the grand jury system.

As well as not respecting the voting system.

And not respecting the court system to decide anything.

And not respecting the legal system to charge people where needed.

And not respecting the federal investigative bodies.


And yet YOU are the one constantly saying other people hate America???

Just in case you are not aware you are the frontline tool of anti-American forces and should never claim to like or respect the country ever again. You are an enemy of Western culture and freedom Dwight.

And I thought it was just me that noticed.

[DwightShrute]

I'm not even American and know that a grand jury is not an adversarial procedure. It's to hear the prosecution case and decide if charges are warranted, which are then tested in a court case.


So you don't respect the grand jury system.

As well as not respecting the voting system.

And not respecting the court system to decide anything.

And not respecting the legal system to charge people where needed.

And not respecting the federal investigative bodies.


And yet YOU are the one constantly saying other people hate America???

Just in case you are not aware you are the frontline tool of anti-American forces and should never claim to like or respect the country ever again. You are an enemy of Western culture and freedom Dwight.

Literally none of what you said is accurate. It's the exact opposite of what's really true. Maybe one of the far Left lunatics will buy what you are trying to sell, but believe me, no one with an ounce of common sense will.

I was never the one who invented the phrase "you can indict a ham sandwich". Stereotypes usually exist for a reason.

I hate to burst your liberal CNN throne-sniffing bubble, but there are corrupt federal law enforcement personnel, prosecutors and people working in the courts including judges. Its not just politicians or an online forum mod who make up nonsense and pretend it's true. No man, I hate to douse your personal attacks with a slew of realities.

Accusing me of not respecting those things you mentioned is a lie. You either know it and you are lying or you are too dumb to understand. Perhaps a little of both? Regardless, its a bad look for you. In case you haven't noticed, nothing in life is perfect. Pointing out flaws in anything doesn't necessarily mean one doesn't have appreciation or admiration for it. One can acknowledge the American justice system is the best in the world but also point out it's flaws. Same goes with the voting system and investigating bodies. And I have and will, when it's warranted.

Where as some people, you in this case, wouldn't say shit if they were neck deep in it and simply because the dumbest most dishonest people on TV tell you not to. They will tell you all sorts of things and like a good ole boy, you eat it up. Yum! Useful idiots they are called.

Somewhere along they way, these pathetic scumbags have convinced you to support them even when they disregard laws and watch their own country fall to pieces. You cheer as public servants turn into tyrants and your fellow countryman lose their businesses while they themselves break all the rules they set out. Oh and they make millions doing so. You are so fukking brainwashed that you cheer as buildings burn, your neighbor is whisked away for not taking an experimental drug and then have the audacity to type the lie you did in the last paragraph when it's clear as day the exact opposite is true.

Remember Opti, never question power. Always comply. Don't believe your own eyes and ears. Just listen and obey like a good little boy.

[Optional]

Literally none of what you said is accurate.

Could not read any further.

You said the grand jury meant nothing to you in the post I replied to.

You have said Trump won in 2020 maybe 200 times.

You cry that Trump should not be subject to court inquisition or that courts which said he had no case to be heard over election rigging should not be listened to.

You say over and again Trump should not be allowed to be charged with any crime.

You say the DOJ/FBI are corruptly investigating.


But then YOU say nothing I said is accurate.

You are delusional or think you can brazenly lie and be believed like Trump. But you are not very good at it like him.

Your desperation is showing.

[guitarjosh]

Could not read any further.

You said the grand jury meant nothing to you in the post I replied to.

You have said Trump won in 2020 maybe 200 times.

You cry that Trump should not be subject to court inquisition or that courts which said he had no case to be heard over election rigging should not be listened to.

You say over and again Trump should not be allowed to be charged with any crime.

You say the DOJ/FBI are corruptly investigating.


But then YOU say nothing I said is accurate.

You are delusional or think you can brazenly lie and be believed like Trump. But you are not very good at it like him.

Your desperation is showing.

Where does management draw the line between acceptable & unacceptable political banter?

[Optional]

Where does management draw the line between acceptable & unacceptable political banter?

Too many different threads overwhelming the new posts list is what we are trying to avoid.

As we increase the number of sport threads it will make it less of an issue too.

[DwightShrute]

Could not read any further.

You said the grand jury meant nothing to you in the post I replied to.

You have said Trump won in 2020 maybe 200 times.

You cry that Trump should not be subject to court inquisition or that courts which said he had no case to be heard over election rigging should not be listened to.

You say over and again Trump should not be allowed to be charged with any crime.

You say the DOJ/FBI are corruptly investigating.


But then YOU say nothing I said is accurate.

You are delusional or think you can brazenly lie and be believed like Trump. But you are not very good at it like him.

Your desperation is showing.

I did read your entire post and just as I expected, its full of lies and inaccuracies. Shocker! You are addicted to failure, deception and you hate America. Too bad there's no experimental vaccine you can take for it.

I expect you'll be posting math questions next.

[slewfan]

In the meantime, The real criminal and habitual liar resides in the White House as we speak...

Some readers will remember “Baghdad Bob,” the Saddam Hussein regime’s spokesman during the 2003 US invasion of Iraq, who confidently claimed “There are no American tanks in Baghdad!” as American tanks were literally in the background.


The Biden administration has its own Baghdad Bob — White House Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre. Some of her pronouncements are just silly, like her claim that the decrepit President Biden has so much energy “I can’t even keep up with him.”


But this week’s howler was a much more consequential lie.


When asked about congressional concerns about the border crisis, she said, “The president has done more to secure the border, to deal with this issue of immigration than anybody else. He really has.”


You might dismiss this as a laughable but harmless fairy tale, like Biden’s supposedly boundless energy, but it has real policy consequences. The border crisis the president sparked on Inauguration Day has continued unabated ever since.

And yet, they are worried about Trump.?.

[DwightShrute]

In the meantime, The real criminal and habitual liar resides in the White House as we speak...

Some readers will remember “Baghdad Bob,” the Saddam Hussein regime’s spokesman during the 2003 US invasion of Iraq, who confidently claimed “There are no American tanks in Baghdad!” as American tanks were literally in the background.


The Biden administration has its own Baghdad Bob — White House Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre. Some of her pronouncements are just silly, like her claim that the decrepit President Biden has so much energy “I can’t even keep up with him.”


But this week’s howler was a much more consequential lie.


When asked about congressional concerns about the border crisis, she said, “The president has done more to secure the border, to deal with this issue of immigration than anybody else. He really has.”


You might dismiss this as a laughable but harmless fairy tale, like Biden’s supposedly boundless energy, but it has real policy consequences. The border crisis the president sparked on Inauguration Day has continued unabated ever since.

And yet, they are worried about Trump.?.

When they’re telling you where to look, they’re telling you where not to look.


All these Trump indictments are to stop him from winning the presidency as we all aware but simultaneously to distract the sheep away from the Biden crime family.

[slewfan]

When they’re telling you where to look, they’re telling you where not to look.


All these Trump indictments are to stop him from winning the presidency as we all aware but simultaneously to distract the sheep away from the Biden crime family.

They also left out some factoid. Criminals never practice what they preach..

The median salary for men on Biden’s staff is $105,000, while women who work for the president earn significantly less at a median salary of $84,000.

We're talking biological men with a penis and biological women with a vagina actually.

[JIBBBY]

I will just say this! MAGA!

[khicks26]

I'm not even American and know that a grand jury is not an adversarial procedure. It's to hear the prosecution case and decide if charges are warranted, which are then tested in a court case.


So you don't respect the grand jury system.

As well as not respecting the voting system.

And not respecting the court system to decide anything.

And not respecting the legal system to charge people where needed.

And not respecting the federal investigative bodies.


And yet YOU are the one constantly saying other people hate America???

Just in case you are not aware you are the frontline tool of anti-American forces and should never claim to like or respect the country ever again. You are an enemy of Western culture and freedom Dwight.

DAM Opti putting the hammer down.

[BOA12]

DAM Opti putting the hammer down.

Worship's America's Father Of Lies; Why ideology trumps their ilk's Christianity.

[jackpot269]

When you watch CNN and other fake news outlets all the time, you will already get the sense he's guilty and likely won't know that the defense has no right to state their case to the grand jury. Its political like you said. Like we all know it is.

This is banana republic shit.

Banana Republic that's funny!
You make it sound like this only applies to Trump! It's been the standard since the, 5th amendment was added to the constitution December 15th 1791.
So it's been used politically against a lot of defendants over the last 230 years. MILLION'S

[khicks26]

Literally none of what you said is accurate. It's the exact opposite of what's really true. Maybe one of the far Left lunatics will buy what you are trying to sell, but believe me, no one with an ounce of common sense will.

I was never the one who invented the phrase "you can indict a ham sandwich". Stereotypes usually exist for a reason.

I hate to burst your liberal CNN throne-sniffing bubble, but there are corrupt federal law enforcement personnel, prosecutors and people working in the courts including judges. Its not just politicians or an online forum mod who make up nonsense and pretend it's true. No man, I hate to douse your personal attacks with a slew of realities.

Accusing me of not respecting those things you mentioned is a lie. You either know it and you are lying or you are too dumb to understand. Perhaps a little of both? Regardless, its a bad look for you. In case you haven't noticed, nothing in life is perfect. Pointing out flaws in anything doesn't necessarily mean one doesn't have appreciation or admiration for it. One can acknowledge the American justice system is the best in the world but also point out it's flaws. Same goes with the voting system and investigating bodies. And I have and will, when it's warranted.

Where as some people, you in this case, wouldn't say shit if they were neck deep in it and simply because the dumbest most dishonest people on TV tell you not to. They will tell you all sorts of things and like a good ole boy, you eat it up. Yum! Useful idiots they are called.

Somewhere along they way, these pathetic scumbags have convinced you to support them even when they disregard laws and watch their own country fall to pieces. You cheer as public servants turn into tyrants and your fellow countryman lose their businesses while they themselves break all the rules they set out. Oh and they make millions doing so. You are so fukking brainwashed that you cheer as buildings burn, your neighbor is whisked away for not taking an experimental drug and then have the audacity to type the lie you did in the last paragraph when it's clear as day the exact opposite is true.

Remember Opti, never question power. Always comply. Don't believe your own eyes and ears. Just listen and obey like a good little boy.

No its all accurate. Maybe its time for a little self-reflection.

[Mike Huntertz]

Could not read any further.

You said the grand jury meant nothing to you in the post I replied to.

You have said Trump won in 2020 maybe 200 times.

You cry that Trump should not be subject to court inquisition or that courts which said he had no case to be heard over election rigging should not be listened to.

You say over and again Trump should not be allowed to be charged with any crime.

You say the DOJ/FBI are corruptly investigating.


But then YOU say nothing I said is accurate.

You are delusional or think you can brazenly lie and be believed like Trump. But you are not very good at it like him.

Your desperation is showing.

Shrute is so far down the rabbit hole he reminds me of Gollum and the orange turd is "his precious".
There is no light nor truth down there only lies and conspiracy theories.....Dwight is a lost cause!

[DwightShrute]

Maybe one of the far Left lunatics will buy what you are trying to sell, but believe me, no one with an ounce of common sense will.

Worship's America's Father Of Lies; Why ideology trumps their ilk's Christianity.

Banana Republic that's funny!
You make it sound like this only applies to Trump! It's been the standard since the, 5th amendment was added to the constitution December 15th 1791.
So it's been used politically against a lot of defendants over the last 230 years. MILLION'S

Shrute is so far down the rabbit hole he reminds me of Gollum and the orange turd is "his precious".
There is no light nor truth down there only lies and conspiracy theories.....Dwight is a lost cause!

DAM Opti putting the hammer down.

[khicks26]

Literally none of what you said is accurate. It's the exact opposite of what's really true. Maybe one of the far Left lunatics will buy what you are trying to sell, but believe me, no one with an ounce of common sense will.

I was never the one who invented the phrase "you can indict a ham sandwich". Stereotypes usually exist for a reason.

I hate to burst your liberal CNN throne-sniffing bubble, but there are corrupt federal law enforcement personnel, prosecutors and people working in the courts including judges. Its not just politicians or an online forum mod who make up nonsense and pretend it's true. No man, I hate to douse your personal attacks with a slew of realities.

Accusing me of not respecting those things you mentioned is a lie. You either know it and you are lying or you are too dumb to understand. Perhaps a little of both? Regardless, its a bad look for you. In case you haven't noticed, nothing in life is perfect. Pointing out flaws in anything doesn't necessarily mean one doesn't have appreciation or admiration for it. One can acknowledge the American justice system is the best in the world but also point out it's flaws. Same goes with the voting system and investigating bodies. And I have and will, when it's warranted.

Where as some people, you in this case, wouldn't say shit if they were neck deep in it and simply because the dumbest most dishonest people on TV tell you not to. They will tell you all sorts of things and like a good ole boy, you eat it up. Yum! Useful idiots they are called.

Somewhere along they way, these pathetic scumbags have convinced you to support them even when they disregard laws and watch their own country fall to pieces. You cheer as public servants turn into tyrants and your fellow countryman lose their businesses while they themselves break all the rules they set out. Oh and they make millions doing so. You are so fukking brainwashed that you cheer as buildings burn, your neighbor is whisked away for not taking an experimental drug and then have the audacity to type the lie you did in the last paragraph when it's clear as day the exact opposite is true.

Remember Opti, never question power. Always comply. Don't believe your own eyes and ears. Just listen and obey like a good little boy.

Hold on I think you could fit a few more platitudes in this if you try.

[jackpot269]

They also left out some factoid. Criminals never practice what they preach..

The median salary for men on Biden’s staff is $105,000, while women who work for the president earn significantly less at a median salary of $84,000.

We're talking biological men with a penis and biological women with a vagina actually.

Looks like the men got a $1000 raise when Biden took over and the ladies got $11000 oops $12000

An analysis of median salaries in the Trump White House found a $33,300 chasm between the median salary for male staffers ($106,000) and the median salary for female staffers ($72,700).

[khicks26]

WOW why don't you just tell him to eat a dick like gregit did.

[khicks26]

Worship's America's Father Of Lies; Why ideology trumps their ilk's Christianity.

Very True