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  • muldoon
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    #1576
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    • brainfreeze
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      • 05-13-14
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      #1577
      Originally posted by raydog
      L Roy Hubbard was one seriously fukked up dude... can you imagine spending thousands upon thousands going up the "bridge" and getting to OT111 ... only to have hubbard tell you, that 75million yrs ago, the world was basically as it was in the 50s and that people were loaded into planes and dropped into lava volcanoes and they became thetans... when we are born, we are born with all these body thetans (spirits) attached to us and we had to get rid of them, of course, by paying more and going through more levels i mean holy shit what a nutjob... wonder if anyone would have ever joined if they knew, from the start, what they were going to be taught??? being told that if anyone around you, even family, didnt believe in scientology, that you had to "disconnect from them" ... what was it about a guy, who wrote science fiction books, that was so appealing??? the documentary cracked me up

      fwiw, people, when a cult leader tries to check himself into a mental hospital, its probably best to search for a new group to join
      Yes, the guy was a science fiction writer on some sea org... Who probably got political and got popular with celebs, and it all fell in to place, working for pennies, severe punishments " losing family " the worse, that place for sure has ruined a lot of lives, hallelu-Yah it's crumbling...
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      • brainfreeze
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        • 05-13-14
        • 5689

        #1578
        Scripture of the day LOVE

        1 John 4:7 - Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God.


        I would ask people pray for Mr. Kent Hovind, he should be home already but he's been found guilty of contempt from something in 07. Guy has been locked up for a very long time, and get this .... wait for it..

        the prosecutor on his case was locked up for soliciting a five year old and raping her, then committed suicide in jail...the judge on Kent's case said his charge was " worse then rape " then had it erased from the transcripts, that should be a call for mistrial alone... I would ask folks to pray on his behalf and even write a letter to his judge asking for leniency ... Thanks for reading, God bless..
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        • brainfreeze
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          • 05-13-14
          • 5689

          #1579
          When you talk like this to the masses .... Your bound for trouble.




          Here's another good site for people who want to help or just be updated about Dr. Kent's case..
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          • KVB
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 05-29-14
            • 74817

            #1580
            From my research Kent Hovind is criminal who pick and chooses parts of the bible for his benefit. I'll pray the Lord has mercy on him. He belongs in jail. He went out of his way many times to cross the bible and specifically the Word of Jesus.

            He should have rendered to Caesar what was Caesar's. He's no role model. You're right Freeze, he should be in prayers, but not that he be freed; rather that the Lord puts it on his heart to follow Christ.

            To me, supporting this fellow any other way does not seem biblical from a New Testament perspective.

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            • brainfreeze
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              • 05-13-14
              • 5689

              #1581
              Originally posted by KVB
              From my research Kent Hovind is criminal who pick and chooses parts of the bible for his benefit. I'll pray the Lord has mercy on him. He belongs in jail. He went out of his way many times to cross the bible and specifically the Word of Jesus.

              He should have rendered to Caesar what was Caesar's. He's no role model. You're right Freeze, he should be in prayers, but not that he be freed; rather that the Lord puts it on his heart to follow Christ.

              To me, supporting this fellow any other way does not seem biblical from a New Testament perspective.

              Where are you getting any of this KVB ? Instead of opinion, please link to facts.... by the way he didn't evade taxes, his charges are structuring " taking his churches money out of the bank and paying bills " guy drives a van and has a little house, no rolls Royce's , your misinformed.... and he brings thought provoking truth to the table about creationism, instead of the lie of evolution the universities wants everyone to eat ... Again, facts please..
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              • KVB
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 05-29-14
                • 74817

                #1582
                You must be kidding right? I used the WikiPedia entry for him and many of the 219 footnotes included. If he is correctly quoted in those sources, then he verbally and directly contradicts Jesus' teachings.

                I like his message, but not coming from him. I understand current Science, the Bible,and the current state of the New World Order to a more satisfactory degree than Hovind. I also don't consider him a very good spokesman for his many causes...if what I read is true, then I feel he gives those who fight for the truth a bad name.

                And yes, he evades taxes and illegally classifies his possessions to directly contradict Jesus' teachings. I don't see how this can be an opinion.
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                • brainfreeze
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                  • 05-13-14
                  • 5689

                  #1583
                  Originally posted by KVB
                  You must be kidding right? I used the WikiPedia entry for him and many of the 219 footnotes included. If he is correctly quoted in those sources, then he verbally and directly contradicts Jesus' teachings.

                  Wikipedia, literally has his mugshot for a picture... I might use wiki, as a source but not my only source when the site shows bias instead of facts, now how has he contradicted the word ? Give me a statement of his that you believe he did this, and please link me to him saying it some where, thanks..

                  I like his message, but not coming from him. I understand current Science, the Bible,and the current state of the New World Order to a more satisfactory degree than Hovind. I also don't consider him a very good spokesman for his many causes...if what I read is true, then I feel he gives those who fight for the truth a bad name.

                  You like his message but not from him ? Wow... Spoke like a true christian, if you know all what you say better then him, please go out and reach a billion people, as he has done...

                  And yes, he evades taxes and illegally classifies his possessions to directly contradict Jesus' teachings. I don't see how this can be an opinion.

                  Again, his charges are " structuring " taking money out of the bank.... He's not on the gov dole, " 5013c " he has no ties to gov, if he was like MOST Churches today he wouldn't have spent 10 seconds in prison let alone ten years ..
                  let me guess, you think his charges are worse then rape as well, right ? Worth locking him away 10yrs ... Whatever, ...

                  who cares the irs got caught targeting people like him, let them roam free and enjoy the spoils right ?
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                  • KVB
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 05-29-14
                    • 74817

                    #1584
                    He's as a liar and deceiver. It's truly a shame when someone like that does reach so many people. I can only pray he plants seeds that God will nurture.

                    He reminds of the guy who used the Bible to mathematically predict exactly when Jesus would return. He spent countless hours to painstakingly come up with a date based on in depth Bible research.

                    He must have missed that part when Jesus says no man will ever know.

                    Same story with Hovind. He neglects important parts of the Bible to further his agenda.

                    And Brainfreeze don't judge me. I can agree with the message that he tries to convey, but acknowledge he does a poor job of it. There's nothing about that stance that implies non-Christian.

                    Also, don't get so hung up on Wikipedia, there are plenty of court documents with claims and quotes from Hovind himself.
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                    • xdodger19
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 11-20-12
                      • 18012

                      #1585
                      kkk are not christians



                      kent knows a lot when it comes to exposing evolutionists lies, but is kind of naive when it comes to theology

                      the gentleman you are referring to is Harold Camping, Camping is part of a cult called dispensationalism.
                      So that was a deception, because dispensationalists don't represent true Christianity but they are promoted in the media as representing Christians. That's just deception.
                      Last edited by xdodger19; 04-04-15, 03:18 PM.
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                      • KVB
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 05-29-14
                        • 74817

                        #1586
                        Originally posted by xdodger19
                        kkk are not christians



                        kent knows a lot when it comes to exposing evolutionists lies, but is kind of naive when it comes to theology

                        the gentleman you are referring to is Harold Camping, Camping is part of a cult called dispensationalism.
                        So that was a deception, because dispensationalists don't represent true Christianity but they are promoted in the media as representing Christians. That's just deception.
                        He is also very poor at the tax game. He makes horrible decisions.

                        Good post all around dodger.
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                        • muldoon
                          SBR MVP
                          • 01-04-10
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                          #1587
                          Originally posted by xdodger19
                          kkk are not christians
                          You get to decide who is a Christian? The church they were attending seemed to disagree.
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                          • xdodger19
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 11-20-12
                            • 18012

                            #1588
                            to answer the op,
                            #1 I would start with simple question. Where does life come from.
                            Life reproduces after its own kind, people make people, horses make horses.
                            Nature does not have the capacity to create life.
                            God created life.
                            Then you have people called atheists, they try to obfuscate what they believe or don't know what they believe.
                            They believe that natural processes of nature caused non-living matter to form life. Then that life reproduced other than its own kind over successive generations.
                            Then if you believe in God then read the Bible.
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                            • xdodger19
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 11-20-12
                              • 18012

                              #1589
                              1 Corinthians 2:15-16New King James Version (NKJV)

                              15 But he who is spiritual judges all things, yet he himself is rightly judged by no one. 16 For “who has known the mind of the Lord that he may instruct Him?”[a] But we have the mind of Christ.
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                              • muldoon
                                SBR MVP
                                • 01-04-10
                                • 4397

                                #1590
                                Originally posted by xdodger19
                                to answer the op,
                                #1 I would start with simple question. Where does life come from.
                                Life reproduces after its own kind, people make people, horses make horses.
                                Nature does not have the capacity to create life.
                                How is that a simple question.

                                Offering a simplistic "it must be god" doesn't answer the question. If offers an un-provable answer to the question. No way to test it, no way to prove it.
                                Last edited by muldoon; 04-04-15, 07:55 PM. Reason: typo. I blame jesus
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                                • raydog
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 11-07-07
                                  • 6984

                                  #1591
                                  Originally posted by brainfreeze
                                  Where are you getting any of this KVB ? Instead of opinion, please link to facts.... by the way he didn't evade taxes, his charges are structuring " taking his churches money out of the bank and paying bills " guy drives a van and has a little house, no rolls Royce's , your misinformed.... and he brings thought provoking truth to the table about creationism, instead of the lie of evolution the universities wants everyone to eat ... Again, facts please..
                                  this doesnt exist... there is 0 truth or facts that support creationism and so many that support evolution...why you and others continue to remain deaf and disregard facts, can only be described as having blinders on ..
                                  faith and what you have been told to believe, do not constitute truth... it never will .. the bible is as credible as a dr.suess book and the illiterate generations of the past have only passed down a theory based on being scared to death of hell...

                                  over 93% of the members of the national academy of science are Atheist ...to the rational, nothing more is really needed, but if you live a full life, you will continue to see the God theory debunked from many different angles.....and, very ignorantly, most god fearing still wont accept it... christianity is in a sad state of affairs these days , while atheism continues to grow rapidly... people are beginning to rationally respond to facts. its a good thing..

                                  goodluck to you guys and regardless of your beliefs, continue to be good people to all...
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                                  • brainfreeze
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                                    • 05-13-14
                                    • 5689

                                    #1592
                                    Originally posted by xdodger19
                                    kent knows a lot when it comes to exposing evolutionists lies, but is kind of naive when it comes to theology
                                    I can agree that Kent doesn't know everything ... He never claimed to, but yes he does a good job of exposing evolution for what it is... A lie, I wouldn't say he's naive, more outspoken and takes a different approach then everyday creationist.. I'm not going to say he's right about EVERYTHING he says though, doesn't the Word say let God be true and every man a liar ? Gods word is what I hang my hat on, it's trust worthy and without fault, Kent is human... He's not perfect, but I agree with a lot of what he says and I support what he has done and no matter what anyone says or does to him, I will still stand behind him.
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                                    • brainfreeze
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                                      • 05-13-14
                                      • 5689

                                      #1593
                                      Originally posted by xdodger19
                                      1 Corinthians 2:15-16New King James Version (NKJV)

                                      15 But he who is spiritual judges all things, yet he himself is rightly judged by no one. 16 For “who has known the mind of the Lord that he may instruct Him?”[a] But we have the mind of Christ.
                                      Praise Yah! I'm enjoying your post dodger... What a blessing!
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                                      • Mr KLC
                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                        • 12-19-07
                                        • 31097

                                        #1594
                                        Happy Easter, Brainfreeze. God bless you as we celebrate the most unselfish act in the history of mankind. Its so good to know that the Lord loved us so much that he sacrificed his Son not just for us believers, but everyone, including all the posters on SBR that don't believe. Its so good to know that Jesus is preparing a place for all of us right now that have faith in him, and recognize him as our Savior. Praise God!
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                                        • brainfreeze
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                                          • 05-13-14
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                                          #1595
                                          Originally posted by Mr KLC
                                          Happy Easter, Brainfreeze. God bless you as we celebrate the most unselfish act in the history of mankind. Its so good to know that the Lord loved us so much that he sacrificed his Son not just for us believers, but everyone, including all the posters on SBR that don't believe. Its so good to know that Jesus is preparing a place for all of us right now that have faith in him, and recognize him as our Savior. Praise God!
                                          Yes thank Yahshua for going to the cross, don't know exact time and dates " like the birth of Christ " but I'm always thankful for Him doing so, the blood of the Messiah is life changing and everlasting. I thank Him for everything He's done and is doing .. and yes He came to make us whole, we're all sinners... Being made perfect in Christ..
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                                          • recon1
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 08-13-12
                                            • 2579

                                            #1596
                                            Originally posted by brainfreeze
                                            Scripture of the day LOVE

                                            1 John 4:7 - Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God.


                                            I would ask people pray for Mr. Kent Hovind, he should be home already but he's been found guilty of contempt from something in 07. Guy has been locked up for a very long time, and get this .... wait for it..

                                            the prosecutor on his case was locked up for soliciting a five year old and raping her, then committed suicide in jail...the judge on Kent's case said his charge was " worse then rape " then had it erased from the transcripts, that should be a call for mistrial alone... I would ask folks to pray on his behalf and even write a letter to his judge asking for leniency ... Thanks for reading, God bless..
                                            I'm not sure of the details of their particular individual, but if he means something to you, i'll pray for him and that Gods Will be done.
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                                            • recon1
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 08-13-12
                                              • 2579

                                              #1597
                                              Verse to know

                                              I urge others to read Joel 2:31.
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                                              • brainfreeze
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                                                • 05-13-14
                                                • 5689

                                                #1598
                                                Originally posted by raydog
                                                this doesnt exist... there is 0 truth or facts that support creationism and so many that support evolution...why you and others continue to remain deaf and disregard facts, can only be described as having blinders on ..
                                                faith and what you have been told to believe, do not constitute truth... it never will .. the bible is as credible as a dr.suess book and the illiterate generations of the past have only passed down a theory based on being scared to death of hell...

                                                over 93% of the members of the national academy of science are Atheist ...to the rational, nothing more is really needed, but if you live a full life, you will continue to see the God theory debunked from many different angles.....and, very ignorantly, most god fearing still wont accept it... christianity is in a sad state of affairs these days , while atheism continues to grow rapidly... people are beginning to rationally respond to facts. its a good thing..

                                                goodluck to you guys and regardless of your beliefs, continue to be good people to all...
                                                The evolutionists’ theory is that a first cell from who-knows-where gradually evolved to become you and me by random mutations (accidental changes). Evolutionists believe that they now sit triumphantly enthroned at the top of a pile of increasingly complex forms of life created by unplanned, undirected random accidents.

                                                You have your own religion, you just don't see it as such..

                                                Here's a few question for you though..
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                                                • brainfreeze
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                                                  • 05-13-14
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                                                  #1599
                                                  Originally posted by recon1
                                                  I'm not sure of the details of their particular individual, but if he means something to you, i'll pray for him and that Gods Will be done.
                                                  Thank you recon, appreciate that brother...
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                                                  • KVB
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 05-29-14
                                                    • 74817

                                                    #1600
                                                    Originally posted by recon1
                                                    I urge others to read Joel 2:31.
                                                    31 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and terrible day of the Lord come.

                                                    King James

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                                                    • brainfreeze
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                                                      • 05-13-14
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                                                      #1601
                                                      Originally posted by KVB
                                                      31 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and terrible day of the Lord come.

                                                      King James

                                                      36"But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father alone.

                                                      2 Peter 3:10
                                                      10But the day of the Lord will come like a thief, in which the heavens will pass away with a roar and the elements will be destroyed with intense heat, and the earth and its works will be burned up.
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                                                      • KVB
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                                                        • 05-29-14
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                                                        #1602
                                                        I like 1 Thessalonians 5:2

                                                        2For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.

                                                        That idea of the thief in the night really hits home for me. They always strike when least expected, always taking you by surprise.

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                                                        • brainfreeze
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                                                          • 05-13-14
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                                                          #1603
                                                          Originally posted by recon1
                                                          I'm not sure of the details of their particular individual,
                                                          This is a long video, but skim through this recon, tons of good info and books he recommends .. Treasure trove of info here, I really think talking like this to the masses made him a huge target for what has happened to him, to smart for his well being.. When it comes to the world and flesh..

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                                                          • brainfreeze
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                                                            • 05-13-14
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                                                            #1604
                                                            Originally posted by KVB
                                                            I like 1 Thessalonians 5:2

                                                            2For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.

                                                            That idea of the thief in the night really hits home for me. They always strike when least expected, always taking you by surprise.

                                                            Exactly, some will take this scripture and say " He's a thief! " He comes like a thief, it gives description. He will come by surprise to most, but for the few who await Him, I'm sure it will be a comfortable greeting.

                                                            By the way KVB, I don't know you personally and we don't know Kent's heart, but I believe he is a man of God, so anyone who says their Messiah is Christ Jesus, and believes the Holy Bible to be the inspired word of God, lives and preaches to that effect, I'm with them, him and you alike...so let's not get down on kent, there's a lot of propaganda to his case and a lot of strange facts as well. We should all be on the same page and be for truth, and helping people find said truth, which is Christ and the Holy Word of God.
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                                                            • muldoon
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                                                              • 01-04-10
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                                                              #1605
                                                              Amazing. The most racist, homophobic, judgmental people in a forum dedicated to sin, also believe in fairy tales and how an omnipotent "god" gave his only son.

                                                              If he's omnipotent, the word "only" should never be inferred as though he couldn't just fire up the virgin-o-matic and have 20 or more.
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                                                              • Mr KLC
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                                                                • 12-19-07
                                                                • 31097

                                                                #1606
                                                                Originally posted by muldoon
                                                                Amazing. The most racist, homophobic, judgmental people in a forum dedicated to sin, also believe in fairy tales and how an omnipotent "god" gave his only son.

                                                                If he's omnipotent, the word "only" should never be inferred as though he couldn't just fire up the virgin-o-matic and have 20 or more.
                                                                You use the terms "racist", and "dedicated to sin", and state that we're judgmental?
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                                                                • muldoon
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                                                                  #1607
                                                                  Originally posted by Mr KLC
                                                                  You use the terms "racist", and "dedicated to sin", and state that we're judgmental?
                                                                  The forum is filled with racism - is that actually in doubt?

                                                                  Is gambling not considered a sin to many in a variety of faiths?
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                                                                  • Mr KLC
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                                                                    • 12-19-07
                                                                    • 31097

                                                                    #1608
                                                                    Originally posted by muldoon
                                                                    The forum is filled with racism - is that actually in doubt?

                                                                    Is gambling not considered a sin to many in a variety of faiths?
                                                                    Gambling can definitely be frowned upon. The love of money is the actual sin. 1 Timothy 6:10 "For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evils. It is through this craving that some have wandered away from the faith and pierced themselves with many pangs."
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                                                                    • jtoler
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                                                                      • 12-17-13
                                                                      • 30967

                                                                      #1609
                                                                      Originally posted by muldoon
                                                                      The forum is filled with racism - is that actually in doubt?

                                                                      Is gambling not considered a sin to many in a variety of faiths?
                                                                      How is it a sin?
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                                                                      • muldoon
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 01-04-10
                                                                        • 4397

                                                                        #1610
                                                                        Originally posted by jtoler
                                                                        How is it a sin?
                                                                        Gambling, as a means of acquiring material gain by chance and at the neighbor’s expense, is a menace to personal character and social morality. Gambling fosters greed and stimulates the fatalistic faith in chance. Organized and commercial gambling is a threat to business, breeds crime and poverty, and is destructive to the interests of good government. It encourages the belief that work is unimportant, that money can solve all our problems, and that greed is the norm for achievement.
                                                                        That's just from the head of the United Methodists.

                                                                        They didn't use the word sin though - so I guess it doesn't count lol.
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