great post, i've nominated ir....
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Depending on table position, tournament stage, chip position, and the pair/two pair/three of a kind/full house draw possibilities, on the flop, a player with suited 5-2, especially a desperate, bored, or novice at the game, would be more inclined to call a big bet if two matching suited cards are there. I don't personally think I would raise all-in with a two card flush draw, but if one of the two matching suit cards on the flop are an A, and I have any suspicion that another player has paired that A and has a mid-to-high level kicker (6-J), by my numbers, unless the buy in was half my paycheck mind you, it appears to be a worthwhile trap, even though my chance of hitting on the turn is only like 16%, and assuming I don't hit there, 16.7% on the river. About a 1 in 3 chance, and while some people wont even bet strong on a coin flip draw(50-50) with the strongest hand possible after the flop and their opposition chasing, well, depending on my mood, I've been known to do it. And if they fold... well, I just bought the pot with something only slightly better than a bluff. And btw, on PokerStars, I've hit a flush a hell of a lot more often than 16, or even 17% of the time. If I had to wager a guess, I'd estimate that I hit more than double that, 33%, and I play a minimum of 3 hours a day, every day. But, whose to say? NL Texas Hold Em' has never been advertised as a game for the faint of heart, nor for those who are deathly fearful of taking a chance against the odds. A scared player rarely wins with any regularity in the long term. And here's a question for you, if you don't go all-in chasing a flush, what would you go all in with? Pocket rockets and flopping a third? Yeah, that'll get you real far...Comment -
Took a little break to get back to the same usual,
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [Jh Jc]
Watashiko: raises 1050 to 1350 and is all-in
Hero: calls and is all-in
Watashiko: shows [7c 7h]
*** FLOP *** [3d As 3h]
*** TURN *** [3d As 3h] [6s]
*** RIVER *** [3d As 3h 6s] [7s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Hero: shows [Jh Jc] (two pair, Jacks and Threes)
Watashiko: shows [7c 7h] (a full house, Sevens full of Threes)Comment -
Anyways, I can post 2, 3 outers every minute...there is zero chance an ace is NOT coming.
Going to watch bball, be back soon for more bad beats.
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [Th Ts]
marianruiz: raises and is all-in
Hero: raises 2098 to 2645 and is all-in
marianruiz: shows [9d Ah]
*** FLOP *** [4s 9h Jc]
*** TURN *** [4s 9h Jc] [Ac]
*** RIVER *** [4s 9h Jc Ac] [2s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
marianruiz: shows [9d Ah] (two pair, Aces and Nines)
Hero: shows [Th Ts] (a pair of Tens)Last edited by k13; 11-16-10, 07:57 PM.Comment -
The usual and as you can see PS never runs out of aces. Do you honestly believe this piece of shit has only a 22.5% chance to win this? Bullshit. You would be a fucken millionaire in a day if you bet on these odds.
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [As Ks]
Rothda: raises 240 to 270
Hero: raises 1620 to 1890 and is all-in
Rothda: calls 1130 and is all-in
Rothda: shows [Jh Ac]
*** FLOP *** [Qd Ah Js]
*** TURN *** [Qd Ah Js] [Ad]
*** RIVER *** [Qd Ah Js Ad] [Th]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Hero: shows [As Ks] (a straight, Ten to Ace)
Rothda: shows [Jh Ac] (a full house, Aces full of Jacks)Comment -
When I tell you its every fucken minute, its every fucken minute. *yawn*
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [Ah Ad]
NACHOGOMILA: calls 30
Hero: raises 1715 to 1745 and is all-in
dajrad65: calls 2360
dajrad65: shows [Kc Qc]
*** FLOP *** [Jd Kh 9h]
*** TURN *** [Jd Kh 9h] [Kd]
*** RIVER *** [Jd Kh 9h Kd] [6c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
dajrad65: shows [Kc Qc] (three of a kind, Kings)
Hero: shows [Ah Ad] (two pair, Aces and Kings)Comment -
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [8c 4d]
*** FLOP *** [4c 8s 7h]
Looks like a decent flop right...nah, this is automatic gut shot on the river, none of these cars were random
*** TURN *** [4c 8s 7h] [3d]
*** RIVER *** [4c 8s 7h 3d] [6h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Hero: shows [8c 4d] (two pair, Eights and Fours)
pooksin: shows [5h 8h] (a straight, Four to Eight)Comment -
Its every hand, like I said. automatic automatic, **** you ****
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [Qc Ah]
dozer72: raises 1600 to 2400
Hero: raises 1445 to 3845 and is all-in
dozer72: calls 1330 and is all-in
dozer72: shows [Ad Js]
*** FLOP *** [9h Jc 7d]
*** TURN *** [9h Jc 7d] [Ac]
*** RIVER *** [9h Jc 7d Ac] [3c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Hero: shows [Qc Ah] (a pair of Aces)
dozer72: shows [Ad Js] (two pair, Aces and Jacks)Comment -
You guys can win 3 sports bets in a row yet you think its normal to be losing 70-80% hands every couple minutes.
I have AQ vs AJ, why am I not happy? Why am I pissed off? Why is my final table ending?
Because its not random.Comment -
Its fucken amazing how you can be over 70% ahead yet be Minus 50% overall for the whole month.
Not even talking about braking even,
That means I'm probably winning around 20% of these hands if that, just fucken beyond the biggest bullshit in the world.
We'll just call it variance.
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Here we see typical collusion. 8 players left, 7 pay.
Seat 1: NZ.Vollmond (12155 in chips)
Seat 2: gbustamante (15355 in chips)
Seat 3: dozer72 (3460 in chips)
Seat 4: peter_akinao (2265 in chips)
Seat 5: MalaBata81 (12740 in chips)
Seat 6: pokerhooliga (15290 in chips)
Seat 8: KingKuba (280 in chips)
Seat 9: robertczz (5955 in chips)
NZ.Vollmond: posts the ante 75
gbustamante: posts the ante 75
dozer72: posts the ante 75
peter_akinao: posts the ante 75
MalaBata81: posts the ante 75
pokerhooliga: posts the ante 75
KingKuba: posts the ante 75
robertczz: posts the ante 75
robertczz: posts small blind 800
NZ.Vollmond: posts big blind 1600
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [8d 2s]
peter_akinao: raises 590 to 2190 and is all-in
MalaBata81: folds
pokerhooliga: folds
robertczz: folds
NZ.Vollmond: folds
Uncalled bet (590) returned to peter_akinao
Idiot big stacks calling left and right with nothing, yet won't call 0.5BB now
Guess what happened next....Comment -
These are both good points. I'd like to expand a little on Muldoon's point.
One theory is that people are more willing to play poorly online because there is no embarassment involved. If you make a terrible play in the real world, whether you win or lose, it's at least slightly embarassing. Everyone is sitting there looking at YOU, judging YOU. Online, you can hide behind your avatar, screen name, and computer screen. No one knows it was YOU who made that terrible play.Comment -
Lost every single coin flip in a row. Lost every AJ vs KQ today.
amazing.
you can close your eyes and you won't do less than 40% in the nfl
Yet I'm praying to win 20% of my hands when 80% ahead.
beyond a fucken joke.Comment -
send poker stars about collustion
8 players 7 pay
Dude shoves 2000, blinds are 1600, Big Stack is on BB, has 0.5bb to call, folds.
Obviously next hand he limps in to check check check me down all the way
Poker stars does a review of it, finds nothing wrong.
Fucken ****Comment -
ak vs ak vs aq go all pre flop, what do you think happens?
Obviously an ace still flops and a king as well
this happens all the timeComment -
it never ever fucken stops.
How the fucken can you lose every single fucken all in being ahead so often
SB vs BB
** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [Ad 9d]
hero: raises 2490 to 2890 and is all-in
JillTheQueen: calls 2420 and is all-in
JillTheQueen: shows [3d Ac]
You know the fucken 3 is going to come right now, its not even a fucken question
*** FLOP *** [Qc 3s 5c]
*** TURN *** [Qc 3s 5c] [4h]
*** RIVER *** [Qc 3s 5c 4h] [8h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Hero: shows [Ad 9d] (high card Ace)
JillTheQueen: shows [3d Ac] (a pair of Threes)Comment -
This is where Poker Stars and online poker is the most rigged. I have zero chance to win this hand, absolutely beyond zero. This the only theory that is actually proven, short stock on to big stack bb.
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [As 3c]
Hero: raises 670 to 1270 and is all-in
LEWN007: calls 670
LEWN007: shows [2s Jh]
*** FLOP *** [5h 9d 2c]
*** TURN *** [5h 9d 2c] [9c]
*** RIVER *** [5h 9d 2c 9c] [Kd]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
LEWN007: shows [2s Jh] (two pair, Nines and Deuces)
Hero: shows [As 3c] (a pair of Nines)Comment -
So i'm -50% roi for the month after 10000 hands behind ahead.
variance right lolComment -
yes random, lose every hand when 70% +
this is not fucken random
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [Qc Ac]
Hero: raises 1885 to 2285 and is all-in
$pti4ka$23: calls 2085
$pti4ka$23: shows [Qd Jc]
*** FLOP *** [6d Ad 3h]
You feel pretty good don't you, no magical jack, no no no, I already know exactly the next fucken cards, **** you,
*** TURN *** [6d Ad 3h] [td]
*** RIVER *** [6d Ad 3h Td] [2d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
$pti4ka$23: shows [Qd Jc] (a flush, Ace high)
Hero: shows [Qc Ac] (a pair of Aces)Comment -
oh wait, I'm only 94% on the fucken flop and I still have no fucken chance.
I would fucken bet $10 000 I'm going to lose this hand, can you fucken belive that. barely fucken 5% chance and I would fucken bet my fucken life on it that's how fucken unrandom that is.,
When you play a million fucken hands of this fucken bullshit run by fucken **** then you know its not fucken random at all.Comment -
btw, the previous and the next hand were suck outs too, don't think its one hand.
don't worry you only need to play about 7 hands to see 5% suck outs.
AA will be losing to KJo in about 4 hands.Comment -
Wake up in the morning, lets see if we can hit one in a billion odds again in less than an hour
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [Tc Td]
*** FLOP *** [9d 3s Th]
Nice flop eh, nope....
*** TURN *** [9d 3s Th] [Qc]
*** RIVER *** [9d 3s Th Qc] [Js]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Hero: shows [Tc Td] (three of a kind, Tens)
moujap: shows [Jh Jd] (three of a kind, Jacks)
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [Qc As]
Hero: raises and is all-in
Cyonada: calls
Cyonada: shows [Jh Ac]
*** FLOP *** [3c 2h 9c]
*** TURN *** [3c 2h 9c] [9d]
*** RIVER *** [3c 2h 9c 9d] [Jc]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Cyonada: shows [Jh Ac] (two pair, Jacks and Nines)
Hero: shows [Qc As] (a pair of Nines)
Next one A10 < A4
Next one KJs < Q10o
90%, 85%, 70%, 60%, **** it don't matter, you'd expect to win at least one right?????
**** no, you are dealing with fucken ****Comment -
Online poker is definitely riggedComment -
interesting thought. thanks for the shareComment -
FACT: There is no accountability
I challenge anyone to counter that simple fact.Comment -
No evidence, just another conspiracy theory based on a small sample size of bad luck. People always remember the bad beats happen to them, and take for granted when they are on the other side of the coin.Comment -
I play on two sites. Bodog and Full Tilt. I have more success on bodog and get more big hands on bodog. i get a couple quads or boats every session on bodog but could go days without one on full tilt. To me full tilt is more legit and bodog seems to have more "action flops". Not saying anything is rigged just seems odd there is such a discrepency between the two sites. One other thing I would say is that the players on full tilt are much better then bodog.Comment -
yeah it all sucksComment -
Good read
I play online poker allot and seen some sick bad beats.Something like this could easily be true.Poker Sites make money from rake so more money in the pot the more they rake.They are out to make money just like any other buisness.
Online we can play allot more hands per hour than we can live so you will see more bad beats.Comment -
You never seem to post any hands about beats you give out. A little poker education couldn't hurt before you go on saying its rigged. Here are some hands I found interesting. BTW, I'm not by any means trying to be a jerk, I'm simply trying to help.
Note: Its funny how blind and stack sizes are left out.
You got it in bad twice, sigh, variance happens. Don't play if you can't handle it. I could dig up thousands of similar hands from my database.
What the hell are you doing min-reshipping with A3o. Even playing in ship/fold mode or with <10 big blinds this is 100% the wrong play. Fold and live to fight another day, villain is 100% committed to call and you were lucky to be ahead. Even though you were ahead, you shouldn't have been in the hand.*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [As 3c]
Hero: raises 670 to 1270 and is all-in
LEWN007: calls 670
LEWN007: shows [2s Jh]
*** FLOP *** [5h 9d 2c]
*** TURN *** [5h 9d 2c] [9c]
*** RIVER *** [5h 9d 2c 9c] [Kd]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
LEWN007: shows [2s Jh] (two pair, Nines and Deuces)
Hero: shows [As 3c] (a pair of Nines)
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [As 3c]
Hero: raises 670 to 1270 and is all-in
LEWN007: calls 670
LEWN007: shows [2s Jh]
*** FLOP *** [5h 9d 2c]
*** TURN *** [5h 9d 2c] [9c]
*** RIVER *** [5h 9d 2c 9c] [Kd]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
LEWN007: shows [2s Jh] (two pair, Nines and Deuces)
Hero: shows [As 3c] (a pair of Nines)
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [As 3c]
Hero: raises 670 to 1270 and is all-in
LEWN007: calls 670
LEWN007: shows [2s Jh]
*** FLOP *** [5h 9d 2c]
*** TURN *** [5h 9d 2c] [9c]
*** RIVER *** [5h 9d 2c 9c] [Kd]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
LEWN007: shows [2s Jh] (two pair, Nines and Deuces)
Hero: shows [As 3c] (a pair of Nines)
Or...
Was this heads up? Was it >100/200 blind level?
My suggestion would be to spend a little time with a coach or do a hand history swap/review with someone over at 2+2 (shit I could even help.) That place (2+2) is full of information to help make you a better player. By the looks of it you may also have a bit of a tilt issue. Keep it cool when playing. I've had nothing but bad things come out of playing tilted, I'm talking bankroll busting swings throughout the course of a day (not just a few hundred dollars either,) money I had played and built up over months even years. Put it this way, I was ranked in the top 5% of both Full Tilt and Pokerstars according to Official Poker Rankings in 2008 and barley play anymore. Also remember that a downswing may last a session or it may be an entire lifetime; no one knows. Just play the best game you know, make +EV decisions, and the Sklanski (spelling) dollars will add up.
Good luck buddy. If you ever want to have any hands/session logs reviewed let me know.
Do you have Holdem Manager or a similar program?Comment -
AQ vs AJ is getting it in bad????Comment -
As I type I flop a flush, I know I'm going to lose, I check raise shove.
Next I have AQ vs A4 pre, I don't have a 70% chance to win, no matter what you think.
Took a break for a while, its the same old shit. 70% is like 58%.
I have PT3.Comment -
I can't even finish typing that's how fast these bad beats come.
This is so fucken proggrammed its not even funny. I call every fucken turn rive. its so fucken unrandom.
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [Ah As]
*** FLOP *** [Kc 8h 5s]
*** TURN *** [Kc 8h 5s] [Ac]
*** RIVER *** [Kc 8h 5s Ac] [2c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Stinger_PS: shows [8c 7c] (a flush, Ace high)
Hero: shows [Ah As] (three of a kind, Aces)
No there was no slow play, no I don't need to explain the chip stacks or anything. Its just fucken bullshit.Comment -
Amazing I can take a break for weeks, pop in Poker Stars.
Lose 70-80% + hands 10 times in a row like its nothing playing 1 hour.
Meanwhile no one on this board will win 10 coin flips in a row sports betting.
btw, it took me less than a 100 hands for that and only playing 20% of them.
The probabilities are thru the roof.Comment
