If you don't think the Lakers Win the West, You are Delusional

[No coincidences]

The Dallas Mavericks. Thanks.

FYI I didn't bet the Lakers to win it all.

I give up forever. The Mavericks were "sub-par" defensively?!?!?!

Wow.

Educate yourself you fvcking dipshit.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/.../NBA_2011.html

[BigDofBA]

Me and Vegas are both dumb. Me and Vegas are on the same side here, and the rest of SBR is saying Lakers are not betting than the Golden State Warriors?

Bro I will not be replying to anymore of your posts. You haven't watched the nba for more than a couple years. You bump your bet threads 15 minutes into games. You're a rookie.

Golden State is better than LA yeah maybe without 2 of the best players in the NBA. Nash and Gasol are better than anyone in a Golden State uniform, but let's keep commenting in this thread when LA loses without them.

So are you going to answer my question or just prance around it.

You still think LA will win the West?

You think the Lakers are the 3rd best team in the NBA?

Gasol and Nash aren't two of the best players in the NBA?

[BigDofBA]

I give up forever. The Mavericks were "sub-par" defensively?!?!?!

Wow.

Educate yourself you fvcking dipshit.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/.../NBA_2011.html

It's obvious this guy just talks out his ass. Dallas had Tyson Chandler and their stats speak for themselves.

[Goat Milk]

I give up forever. The Mavericks were "sub-par" defensively?!?!?!

Wow.

Educate yourself you fvcking dipshit.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/.../NBA_2011.html

You should give up forever. You don't know shit about the nba. You guaranteed the Heat would not win the East 2 years ago on this site and you put 3/4 of your bankroll on it while BigDoA bumped his Thudner threads after game 1 of the finals last year saying "looking good" clearly someone that's watched the nba for 10 years.

Wait...3/4 of your roll....that's only like $116 bucks. I guess you're back in the game now.

[No coincidences]

You should give up forever. You don't know shit about the nba. You guaranteed the Heat would not win the East 2 years ago on this site and you put 3/4 of your bankroll on it while BigDoA bumped his Thudner threads after game 1 of the finals last year saying "looking good" clearly someone that's watched the nba for 10 years.

Wait...3/4 of your roll....that's only like $116 bucks. I guess you're back in the game now.

In other words, you have no defense for the stupidity of what you just said.

Keep digging -- this is getting downright laughable.

[BigDofBA]

You should give up forever. You don't know shit about the nba. You guaranteed the Heat would not win the East 2 years ago on this site and you put 3/4 of your bankroll on it while BigDoA bumped his Thudner threads after game 1 of the finals last year saying "looking good" clearly someone that's watched the nba for 10 years.

Wait...3/4 of your roll....that's only like $116 bucks. I guess you're back in the game now.

Hahah. Did you really look up my old threads.

I bumped the shit out of the OKC/Lakers threads because a bunch of delusional people on this site kept saying the Lakers were better than OKC and the regular season didn't mean anything.

The Lakers can' just turn it on anymore. Kobe can't carry the team every game.

Do you still think LA is going to win the West?

I love how you act like you know everything but you're wrong on so many of your statements. Belittling others and talking about how long you've watched the NBA on a message board doesn't make you special.

How old are you? How long have you watched the NBA? I love you how dodge questions and facts and come back with stupid little comments trying to attack people.

[Sport_Fish]

Its simple, Lakers aren't as bad as some people believe they are, and they just aren't as good as others believe they are.

Lakers out in 2nd round of playoffs - the most likely outcome. Although if they end up being a 6-7th seed they could be out 1st round depending on the match-up.

[BigDofBA]

Its simple, Lakers aren't as bad as some people believe they are, and they just aren't as good as others believe they are.

Lakers out in 2nd round of playoffs - the most likely outcome. Although if they end up being a 6-7th seed they could be out 1st round depending on the match-up.

I think most people thought LA would at least get to the second round.

The clown that started this thread was crowing them Western Conference champs before he even saw how the pieces fit together. Now it's apparent they have serious issues.

Truth of the matter is, LA is only a little bit better "on paper" than they were last year and last year they got pushed to 7 in the first round and lost in 5 in the second round.

[thetrinity]

Its simple, Lakers aren't as bad as some people believe they are, and they just aren't as good as others believe they are.

Lakers out in 2nd round of playoffs - the most likely outcome. Although if they end up being a 6-7th seed they could be out 1st round depending on the match-up.

for one, i think they make the playoffs even though the schedule seems to get harder, aint gona win multiple series against the wests elite though.

[onlooker]

The clown that started this thread was crowing them Western Conference champs before he even saw how the pieces fit together. Now it's apparent they have serious issues.

A lot of people and so called experts were crowning them before the season started.

[BigDofBA]

Anyway, I guess he isn't going to answer my question.

He made some ignorant statements and was proven wrong. His responses were about what I would expect from someone that was incorrect with a ridiculous statement.

Since the guy talks about how knowledgeable he is and how many years he has watched the NBA, I just want to know how old he is and how long he really has been watching the NBA,

[Bblanse]

Don't know how or why Goat keeps backing this useless D Antoni's lakers team. Maybe if Nash is back, they will win the games against small/average team they've been losing so far e.g cleveland, Orlando, Utah e.t.c. There is no way lakers win teams like Spurs, Knicks, Clipers, Memphis, Golden state, Atlanta, and the giant of OKC and Miami. Those teams will flat drown the lakers under their useless coach. Wouldn't be suprised if any of those teams swept them in d playoff( if they get lucky to get a spot....stern helping them). Passing on Phil was dumb and huge mistake. Guys like howard, Gasol will be playing and posting superstars number under him along with Kobe.
Goat, can you beat Washington tomorrow?

[BigDofBA]

Teams that are locks to win the West aren't happy with losing by single digits.

The fact that we have ask the question if LA will beat the worst team in the NBA tomorrow is telling.

[thetrinity]

Don't know how or why Goat keeps backing this useless D Antoni's lakers team. Maybe if Nash is back, they will win the games against small/average team they've been losing so far e.g cleveland, Orlando, Utah e.t.c. There is no way lakers win teams like Spurs, Knicks, Clipers, Memphis, Golden state, Atlanta, and the giant of OKC and Miami. Those teams will flat drown the lakers under their useless coach. Wouldn't be suprised if any of those teams swept them in d playoff( if they get lucky to get a spot....stern helping them). Passing on Phil was dumb and huge mistake. Guys like howard, Gasol will be playing and posting superstars number under him along with Kobe.
Goat, can you beat Washington tomorrow?

he doesnt keep backing them, he thinks that when nash and gasol are back two of the best players in the nba they will make the finals.

[Ratzz]

serious points LAKER-HATERS are conveniently over-looking (as usual)

1) Lakers only gave up 68 pts in the 1st Half...
(getting better)*i am seeing alot of improvement.. in this area.

2) during the Halftime time D'Antoni said
"somebody take Melo out of the game"
huge improvement neutralizing opposing players.
(after he left the game.. Melo*scored like 0 pts. or less)*
very effective.

3) bAll movement. pretty sure i saw somebody other
than Kobe handle the ball in the 2H. So another great
adjustment.

i think this thing got turned around tonight.
it really hard to see if you are a Laker-Hater,
because they are so filled with.. well, 'hate' i guess
that they just can't see the facts for what they are..

LH's need a reality check.. i consider tonight's game a huge victory
for the Lakers*

[Sport_Fish]

I think most people thought LA would at least get to the second round.

The clown that started this thread was crowing them Western Conference champs before he even saw how the pieces fit together. Now it's apparent they have serious issues.

Truth of the matter is, LA is only a little bit better "on paper" than they were last year and last year they got pushed to 7 in the first round and lost in 5 in the second round.

Hmm I actually thought MOST people had them WCF champs before the season started and the other few had them as CHAMPS.

Now I think its divided up into 4 groups:

1. The hopeless ones: Still believe Lakers will win it all
2. The stubborn ones: Stilll believe Lakers are good enuf to win West
3. The realists: Lakers are still a solid NBA team and will compete in the playoffs (their elimination from round 1 or 2 depends obviously on how seeding plays out)
4. The less educated: Lakers won't make playoffs

Lakers slightly better this year than last? I agree with that. But problem is, West is way stronger now. So alot of the additional talent this team added has been 'nullified', if u will. And Lakers are more or less in the same position as last year.

[thetrinity]

good post but group 4 is starting to look a little more realistic. another 10-15 games of this itll be curtains.

hey goat still doesnt look as bad as MWPs 73-9 prediction.

[Bblanse]

Am i seeing things or what? A supposed great team considering a pitied loss a huge victory? Lol. This is what you console yourself with. So you think other teams too aren't trying to improve? Every team works on their weak......before it was the bench is improvin, kobe is passing the ball more, meta is making his shots, we are using Howard & Gasol more, blah blah blah......now its gasol needs to be traded, need a pg, need to use gasol more in d paint, when nash comes back........start winning and stop making excuse. Kobe, Howard, in the team means you shouldn't be losing to teams like utah(twice), cavs, orlando.....and not get a pitied loss by okc, knicks. Do you blv knicks couldn't beat you by double digits if they wanted to?

[wantitall4moi]

tonight was a foregone conclusion, Knick could have won by 50 if they had wanted to just like oKC could have. i sad that somewhere also, that Knicks might open the backdoor right up for thm, whch they did but stupid fouls by the lakers shut it again, that rarely happens, but refs sort of had to blow the whistle even if they didnt want to.

[zsr]

wantitall good to see you again pal.

Goat Milk LOL at you still acting like a know it all after losing all your money and disappearing till chargers quit bumping your threads. You still know nothing about basketball i see and have somehow convinced yourself your an expert, even after your burial and going into hiding

[zsr]

Anyway, I guess he isn't going to answer my question.

He made some ignorant statements and was proven wrong. His responses were about what I would expect from someone that was incorrect with a ridiculous statement.

Since the guy talks about how knowledgeable he is and how many years he has watched the NBA, I just want to know how old he is and how long he really has been watching the NBA,

He has to be an 18 year old kid. I cant imagine an adult being so arrogant while consistently being wrong about literally everything.

He gets proven wrong everytime he tries to call himself an NBA expert, then he simply ignores the facts and changes the subject to how 3 years ago he picked Boston to make the finals, or how he picked the Heat to beat the bulls 2 years ago. Ive never seen anything like it. I want to know WTF is going on in his head that he can be so wrong about everything yet be able to convince himself he's a genius.

This isnt even bringing up how he lost his entire roll in the NFL playoffs last year, lied about his NBA thread when he was down another 5k? and then went into hiding until poster Chargers quit bumping it.

[TwoWays]

The only way Lakers win is if they utilize Howard more. I don't think they ran one offense play for him vs. Knicks, or just even gave him the ball in the 4th quarter. That crap is just some bad coaching. You could have easily gotten Chandler in foul trouble and then dominated in the paint. Lakers will be on the brink of missing the playoffs if they keep letting Duhon, Meeks, Ebanks, Jamison launch three-pointers with 20 sec. left on the shot clock.

[JoJo5473]

I read somewhere yesterday that for the past 3 full seasons, the average 8th seed in the west won 48 games, Lakers are 9-14 now, which means to make the playoffs they have to finish the rest of the season better than 39-20.
Just saying.....

[Eagles27]

Lakers out in 2nd round of playoffs - the most likely outcome.

Everytime someone mentions Lakers and playoffs in the same sentence.. lol

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[thetrinity]

I read somewhere yesterday that for the past 3 full seasons, the average 8th seed in the west won 48 games, Lakers are 9-14 now, which means to make the playoffs they have to finish the rest of the season better than 39-20.
Just saying.....

i think itll be more like 43 44 wins will make it as 8 seed. the dregs of the conference aint as bad. lakers at 9-14 are only 2.5 games out of 8th. the east will be a different story where 6 teams have no chance already.

[Ratzz]

The only way Lakers win is if they utilize Howard more. I don't think they ran one offense play for him vs. Knicks, or just even gave him the ball in the 4th quarter. That crap is just some bad coaching. You could have easily gotten Chandler in foul trouble and then dominated in the paint. Lakers will be on the brink of missing the playoffs if they keep letting Duhon, Meeks, Ebanks, Jamison launch three-pointers with 20 sec. left on the shot clock.

this is incorrect.. the only way to win is for the Lakers to use Kobe more..
if he averages 29 ppg now.. they can add 30 pts per game by doubling the amount of shots he takes. *

what they need to eliminate is 'Assists' altogether.. they had 13 last night..*
if they can bring that figure down, and bring Kobe's 'shot attempts' up, then they have a chance.

[ngates815]

Everyone just settle down...He picked the heat to win it all last year...And he was certainly the only person thinking that a stacked team would win it!!!!!!!!!!


The guy is amazing...You can't talk shit to him, because then he'll pull out that fact on you, like he was really going out on a limb.

[wantitall4moi]

I said it in a couple other threads, I figure 46-35 gets a team in. I also broke it down where even if everyone come back and is healthy before Christmas, they still will have a very difficult time making the play offs.

Its still relatively early, and being back 2.5 (from the 8 seed) might not sound like much it is only going to widen until they get everyone back and are able to actually show they can win.

The funniest part is watching these tal,king heads all change their tune now and backtrack. I started saying Lakers were in trouble last year. They just had a 'perfect' season in regards to injuries and effort. This year they have gotten hurt, and have zero effort especially on the defensive side of the ball. So that exposes their sever lack of depth even more. They got exposed in the play offs last year but it ended so quickly n one had the time or bothered to mention it. Then they signed Nash and rented Howard and everyone said they wee instant contenders. Only guy who said they would stlll struggle..me. They should pay me to talk about the NBA, I predicted this shit for the past two years. Only thing I got 'wrong' was I figured it would be Howard who wouldnt be playing, instead it is nash. So ask yourself this question in August who will have a bigger impact on being injured Nash or Howard? But since they hired Dantoni that might change some peoples minds. But still 80% of people would say Howard. They only say Nash now because it is happening and they need to grasp as straws for reasons why the Lakers suck rather than looking at the obvious ones.

even totally 100% healthy this team would probably only be 14-9, so surely not serious contenders, but still somewhere around a 6 or 7 seed, instead of the 12 seed they are.

[thetrinity]

does anyone put any stock into the fact that la is +2.2 in points ppg this season, which is good enough for 5th in the west? i sorta do, but then i think of the games where they poured it on when they were up big and the games at okc and new york where the final score was a lot closer then it should have been in reality. it usually still is a good indicator of strength by the end of the year after all of this stuff has evened out. i cant think of a team with that good of a disparity missing the playoffs ever.

[wantitall4moi]

does anyone put any stock into the fact that la is +2.2 in points ppg this season, which is good enough for 5th in the west? i sorta do, but then i think of the games where they poured it on when they were up big and the games at okc and new york where the final score was a lot closer then it should have been in reality. it usually still is a good indicator of strength by the end of the year after all of this stuff has evened out. i cant think of a team with that good of a disparity missing the playoffs ever.

no because Kobe is having a career year shooting the ball. I suspect he crashes and burns eventually, so by the time they might be ready to gel as a team his arms will have fallen off. Howard was (I havent checked the stats lately) also having a career year offensivley. Also if he was even a 54% free thro shooter he would add a full point to his average and I am sure a full point to that number you quoted.

Offense isnt and wasnt the problem. I said that too even when Brown had them running the so called princeton offence, they were outscoring ast years average using that. It has been 100% about the defene. They made an effort to play defense when Bickerstaff was there, and what do you know they went 4-1. But they also only put in that effort because they knew it was a temporary thing and once they got the new guy they wouldnt have to put so much effort into it.

These guys are lazy and have a sense of self entitlement. Well thats a given. But they always believe their own hype. Kobe should frigging know better, after what happened with Peyton and Malone., but then again he was the reason that team failed. So I doubt he figured he would have to sabotage another so called 'super team' to get his way.

Making fun of the Lakers isnt really fun anymore. because everyone is doing it. So piling on after these johnny come latelies are now piling on isnt all that exciting. I just hope they dont bury the Lakers so bad (more than the Lakers have themselves) to make people stop betting them and watching a game that opened +7 go to +5.5 when the Lakers had about zero chance to cover even DD as long as the Knicks didnt die on the way to the arena. I surely dont like that Lakers opened -5.5 @ Was and the Wizards have actually taken a little bit of money here. But then again it is early Laker fans will drive this to 7 I am sure. The automatic was the under 201, thats long gone though and sitting at 199.5 most places now. But Wiz are playing better, especially at home, they beat Miami and had a real chance to beat GSW (who isnt your mammas GSW)

But I dont want to break down games in this thread because it this is an instant classic.

[smoke a bowl]

Possible best thread of the year candidate. LMFAO at Goat.

[onacloud]

Everytime someone mentions Lakers and playoffs in the same sentence.. lol

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Lakers 1-11 when Kobe scores 30+

[King Mayan]

Laker haters

Lakers in 7 nba finals for the last 12 years.. How many for Philadelphia, new York, Chicago??

perrenial losers.

[PAULYPOKER]

Wow I am Delusional

[lewsparks77]

look up delusional in a text book and you will see a pic of a Laker fan. Nash wont fix the defense. their coach want them to be a run and gun team when they are old and slow. I would bet my life saving that the lakers do not win the west. tard