If you don't think the Lakers Win the West, You are Delusional

**darkhat** · 12-09-12, 11:55 PM

Originally posted by wantitall4moi

too many reasons to list but here is a start...

3 of their top 6 guys cant play
no bench and havent had one in years
kobe bryant
dwight howard
mike dantoni
cant win on the road
cant win at home either I guess
no defense

there are more but those are the obvious ones.

but wait til nash comes back he will turn it around for them....

But if he isnt back before New years this team is looking to be 14-17 with 51 games left to play. I think the 8 seed in the west will need to win at least 45 games. So they will have to go 31-20 their last 51 games IMO. Pretty tough task. Not impossible though. But when you cant win on the road and get beat by any team with a better than 500 record at home its a bad sign.

**bjb7223** · 12-09-12, 11:57 PM

i would be up 10 K if I faded this team since oct 30

**brainfreeze0** · 12-09-12, 11:58 PM

Now a days the Lakers fans cheer just to see them get back into a single digit loss. Tonight the boos reigned down on them as they left the court. Jack Nicholsons face said it all.

**BigDofBA** · 12-10-12, 12:00 AM

Originally posted by brainfreeze0

Now a days the Lakers fans cheer just to see them get back into a single digit loss. Tonight the boos reigned down on them as they left the court. Jack Nicholsons face said it all.

LOL. So true.

I laughed at the guy that started this thread because he was talking about how the Lakers only lost by single digits to OKC....anyone with half a brain could see that OKC dominated that game.

**hawley** · 12-10-12, 12:02 AM

They cannot stop a thing.

Wonder if D'antoni is shown the door now. If only they didn't treat Jackson so poorly

**No coincidences** · 12-10-12, 12:03 AM

Originally posted by hawley

They cannot stop a thing.

Wonder if D'antoni is shown the door now. If only they didn't treat Jackson so poorly

This is all on the younger Buss now. It was him and only him that blocked the Jackson deal.

**bjb7223** · 12-10-12, 12:04 AM

Originally posted by No coincidences

This is all on the younger Buss now. It was him and only him that blocked the Jackson deal.

Jimmy

**hawley** · 12-10-12, 12:04 AM

Originally posted by No coincidences

This is all on the younger Buss now. It was him and only him that blocked the Jackson deal.

Brown had a shorter leash than this.

Nash isn't going to change a thing on the defensive end. Maybe it is just an effort thing but i doubt that.

**Ratzz** · 12-10-12, 12:12 AM

i think the Lakers are just saving themselves for the playoffs.

why waste perfectly good FGs and risk injury playing defense?!

especially now when it doesn't matter.

the move is to wait for Nashty to come back, then make the playoffs
and dispatch the No.1 seed in 4 games..
then do the same with the No.2 seed...

after that it should get easy.. because we'll be playing like a 3-4 seed..
so we'll just take care of that in 4 games..

then rest for the Finals.. and then sweep that.

so i'm thinking rest up now.. then 16-0 in the playoffs..
and we're done.

LAKERS WIN AGAIN.,*

**brainfreeze0** · 12-10-12, 12:12 AM

Originally posted by hawley

Brown had a shorter leash than this.

Nash isn't going to change a thing on the defensive end. Maybe it is just an effort thing but i doubt that.

Thats whats so laughable. Some ppl are trying to act like Nash is going to be some superstar that comes in and turns the whole thing around. Puhhhhleeezz. Don't get me wrong, Nash is a superstar player, but this team has so many issues that Nash is by no means the make or break player here.

They fire Mike Brown and what has happened since then. Nothing. That's what they get and I hope Mike and Phil are sitting at the bar laughing their asses off at whats happening in this organization.

**No coincidences** · 12-10-12, 12:14 AM

Originally posted by hawley

Brown had a shorter leash than this.

Nash isn't going to change a thing on the defensive end. Maybe it is just an effort thing but i doubt that.

Nash has the "potential" to improve their offense. But if you don't think it's going to take quite some time for Nash and Kobe to figure things out re: ball sharing on offense....

He's an absolutely liability defensively, which won't help what is already a bad defensive team coached by a guy who doesn't put a premium on defense.

Quick: name the last NBA champion that didn't play good D.

**onlooker** · 12-10-12, 12:16 AM

Nash will probably sit out the rest of the season. He don't want no part of that mess in LA.

**Ratzz** · 12-10-12, 12:17 AM

Originally posted by No coincidences

Quick: name the last NBA champion that didn't play good D.

LOL*

umm.. Tyrannosaurus Wrecks.

but that was along time ago.

**bjb7223** · 12-10-12, 12:23 AM

Originally posted by Ratzz

LOL*

umm.. Tyrannosaurus Wrecks.

but that was along time ago.

ironically that was the 1987-88 Lakers

**Darkside Magick** · 12-10-12, 12:26 AM

Phil Jackson somewhere laughing his azz off!!!!

**king_danilo92** · 12-10-12, 12:28 AM

warriors are the real deal.

**No coincidences** · 12-10-12, 12:28 AM

Originally posted by Darkside Magick

Phil Jackson somewhere laughing his azz off!!!!

FTR, I'm surprised Jackson even wanted to come back in the first place. He's known for taking over teams ripe to make a championship push. I don't see any of those qualities coming from this roster, despite all of its star power....

**Luckycharms2012** · 12-10-12, 12:34 AM

Lakers are Horseradish!

**BigDofBA** · 12-10-12, 12:40 AM

Originally posted by No coincidences

FTR, I'm surprised Jackson even wanted to come back in the first place. He's known for taking over teams ripe to make a championship push. I don't see any of those qualities coming from this roster, despite all of its star power....

I thought the same thing.

**Luckycharms2012** · 12-10-12, 12:43 AM

It's all about the belief. Phil can make them believe. Lakers made a big mistake.

**Luckycharms2012** · 12-10-12, 12:44 AM

If you believe, you can achieve!

**brainfreeze0** · 12-10-12, 12:47 AM

worst case for D'Antoni is they buy out his contract also and he gets to enjoy an early tan somewhere

**Eagles27** · 12-10-12, 02:23 AM

Originally posted by Ratzz

i think the Lakers are just saving themselves for the playoffs.

Mora has a message for you lol
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**jsmithj88** · 12-10-12, 05:39 AM

Wouldnt this be the most embarrassing moment for Kobe if he doesn't get his team into the playoffs?

**Seto** · 12-10-12, 07:10 AM

you guys do realise this team is still the bookies' favorite/2nd favorite to win the rest right?

or is Lakers to not win the West around -200 a lock?

**crustyme** · 12-10-12, 08:11 AM

goat mush strikes again.

but i bet he jerks off to views/replies cause thats what brokedik airbettors like him treasure.

**wantitall4moi** · 12-10-12, 08:53 AM

Originally posted by Seto

you guys do realise this team is still the bookies' favorite/2nd favorite to win the rest right?

or is Lakers to not win the West around -200 a lock?

means absolutely ZERO. Lakers are favored every game still just about, except against the elite teams. Even favored on the road where they have shown an ability to win consistently in almost 3 years.

Books put up stupid line on them because stupid people still bet on them.

Futures also have dog shit limits so tying up that little bit of money until June or July isnt worth it, not when you can parlay it on them fading them every game.

But I doubt that the odds you cite are current, if they are it is a book you probably dont want to be playing at.

**Ratzz** · 12-10-12, 09:22 AM

Originally posted by wantitall4moi

Books put up stupid line on them because stupid people still bet on them.

true. but to the Laker fan.. dropping a HUGE wad on dough on Showtime is:

A) a demonstration of tue faith

B) increases the likelihood of that specific even happening. (massive lol here)

i have won so many personal bets with Laker fans that i know already.
alas, i do will never cash them and would never ask them to pay up,
as i know that it was just their bellicose motions running amuck..
but they are hilarious, and they will not see the light.

everything is still "when Nash gets back"

i really can't wait for that to happen.

**thetrinity** · 12-10-12, 10:17 AM

does goat lose his nba guru card if they dont even make the playoffs

**thetrinity** · 12-10-12, 10:26 AM

they have 9 more games left b4 the first of the year, 4 of them are on the road against legit playoff teams, probably 1-3 at best in those games, then the other 5 games, hard to call anything a gimme when you lose home games to orlando, so it looks like new years day they will be around 13-17 or 14-16, with the tougher part of their schedule coming up.

**wantitall4moi** · 12-10-12, 10:34 AM

Originally posted by thetrinity

they have 9 more games left b4 the first of the year, 4 of them are on the road against legit playoff teams, probably 1-3 at best in those games, then the other 5 games, hard to call anything a gimme when you lose home games to orlando, so it looks like new years day they will be around 13-17 or 14-16, with the tougher part of their schedule coming up.

Cleveland sucks, Washington sucks, Knicks have their moments but if they arent hitting their outside shots they arent good. Philly is borderline. Lakers have to go 2-2 there, maybe even 3-1. Despite their horrbile road record. Then they have some home games against bad teams too.

lakers could go 3-7 or 4-6 their next 10 or they could go 7-3, depending on if they turn it around. I broke it down in another thread somewhere.

**Seto** · 12-10-12, 10:56 AM

Originally posted by wantitall4moi

means absolutely ZERO. Lakers are favored every game still just about, except against the elite teams. Even favored on the road where they have shown an ability to win consistently in almost 3 years.

Books put up stupid line on them because stupid people still bet on them.

Futures also have dog shit limits so tying up that little bit of money until June or July isnt worth it, not when you can parlay it on them fading them every game.

But I doubt that the odds you cite are current, if they are it is a book you probably dont want to be playing at.

-290, fair enough. Lines weren't up yet

**Ratzz** · 12-10-12, 11:06 AM

seems like there are less and less people showing up to back the Lakers...

used to be 50-50 split...

looks like 90-10 now..

i guess everybody must wake up sometime..

watch 'em come out in droves when the Lakers beat a winner on the road..
or if they stretch a 2 game marathon win streak together.

**thetrinity** · 12-10-12, 12:28 PM

Originally posted by Ratzz

seems like there are less and less people showing up to back the Lakers...

used to be 50-50 split...

looks like 90-10 now..

i guess everybody must wake up sometime..

watch 'em come out in droves when the Lakers beat a winner on the road..
or if they stretch a 2 game marathon win streak together.

doesnt take much to get the kobe fanboys wound up, beating cleveland and ny back to back would do the trick.

**Kindred** · 12-10-12, 01:06 PM

Laker freakshow