If you don't think the Lakers Win the West, You are Delusional

[You mad bro]

the team doctors said that k0bie's lucky he not dead..

112˚ fever.. internal bleeding.. brain hemorrhage

he's amazing

lmao and u believe that .. smh i thought u were better than this ratzz

[MP123]

I keep saying this... This team makes no sense... I'm a diehard laker fan... It's so frustrating seeing pau n Dwight in the high post n the guards try to penetrate... The game will be so easy if they just feed to pau n Dwight in the low block... The triangle would've been perfect w these guys the only guy who suffers is Nash but as a unit they will be unbeatable... N Idc what kinda roster they bring they won't make it far in the playoffs without TEAM defense... U can't rely on Kobe metta man to man n Dwight n pau cleaning up... The other team with a gameplan in the playoffs will eat the lakers alive like this... Dantoni n Mike Brown... SOOOOO FRUSTRATING!!!!!!!

[You mad bro]

I keep saying this... This team makes no sense... I'm a diehard laker fan... It's so frustrating seeing pau n Dwight in the high post n the guards try to penetrate... The game will be so easy if they just feed to pau n Dwight in the low block... The triangle would've been perfect w these guys the only guy who suffers is Nash but as a unit they will be unbeatable... N Idc what kinda roster they bring they won't make it far in the playoffs without TEAM defense... U can't rely on Kobe metta man to man n Dwight n pau cleaning up... The other team with a gameplan in the playoffs will eat the lakers alive like this... Dantoni n Mike Brown... SOOOOO FRUSTRATING!!!!!!!

haha sucks to be you ... better start getting used to losing

[MP123]

They have a good enough bench they got Jamison Morris Duhon and Hill all u need is a 8man rotation... They just need a better coach... Defensive minded n low block coach... I wish the kupchak n Jim would've taken Phil... This team is just so frustrating right now!!!! Mark my words if the Lakers keep this type of offense n defense forget title they won't even make it to the finals

[You mad bro]

They have a good enough bench they got Jamison Morris Duhon and Hill all u need is a 8man rotation... They just need a better coach... Defensive minded n low block coach... I wish the kupchak n Jim would've taken Phil... This team is just so frustrating right now!!!! Mark my words if the Lakers keep this type of offense n defense forget title they won't even make it to the finals

lmfaoooo .... u really think that jamison morris duhon and hill are even halfway decent? what a fuccking joke .... none of these 4 have any talent other than jamison and he is playing like shiit now ... cmon man

[MP123]

Lol I'm not gonna sit here n argue w u kid honestly it's frustrating as a laker fan I put in my 2 cents n that's it... Get a life kid

[You mad bro]

Lol I'm not gonna sit here n argue w u kid honestly it's frustrating as a laker fan I put in my 2 cents n that's it... Get a life kid

get a life kid? you know nothing about the sport and wanna post about it ... gtfo clown

go use ur 2 cents elsewhere

[face]

They have a good enough bench they got Jamison Morris Duhon and Hill

jamison, morris, and duhon went for a combined 1-16, played 80 minutes combined, and scored 4 points combined tonight

hill sucked too, but i have seen him have good nights

[You mad bro]

jamison, morris, and duhon went for a combined 1-16, played 80 minutes combined, and scored 4 points combined tonight

hill sucked too, but i have seen him have good nights

[MP123]

The whole laker team with the exception of Bryant was nonexistent tonight... U can't have ur PF/C play on the high block ur making it too easy for the other teams defense.. The pacers r a defensive minded team... W a better system they can all excel... N I'm not talking about putting points on the board I'm talking about excelling in their role of the team that's what wins championships

[You mad bro]

The whole laker team with the exception of Bryant was nonexistent tonight... U can't have ur PF/C play on the high block ur making it too easy for the other teams defense.. The pacers r a defensive minded team... W a better system they can all excel... N I'm not talking about putting points on the board I'm talking about excelling in their role of the team that's what wins championships

yeah but the guys u mentoned cant excel in their role cuz they are way to bad ... u cant have jordan hill duhon morris and jamison come in and expect to even keep up with other teams

look at the clippers bench

odom ... bledsoe.... crawford ... when hill and billups comes back ... barnes ..

that is a deep bench

[MP123]

U don't have to put them all in as a group... At the forewards n center u can rotate pau Howard mwp hill Jamison... Also when Nash gets back u can rotate Nash Kobe Duhon n Morris always keeping either Kobe or Nash and Dwight or pau... Also always have either Jamison or artest at the 3.. And when u have Jamison at the 3 u put Hill at the 4... Ull always have a energy guy on the floor someone to clean up defensively n rebound the ball.. They need a TEAM defense mostly... Rotations on the low block... Plus the clippers are very deep but they have a bunch of scattered talent whose going to clean up on the glass who's going to hustle for loose balls they can't pound it inside until griffin n Jordan develop a solid post game... Look at what the hornets did to them... And they didn't even have their best players... Basketball is a matchup game taking advantage of the other teams matchup disadvantages... That's why the heat didn't win 2 years ago until they started posting up lebron opened up everything... Plus they played team defense it wasn't a man to man only when someone gets beat they rotate to stop penetration n rotate to take away the open man down low run out at open shooters contest shots... It's not just the talent u have its a team game

[You mad bro]

U don't have to put them all in as a group... At the forewards n center u can rotate pau Howard mwp hill Jamison... Also when Nash gets back u can rotate Nash Kobe Duhon n Morris always keeping either Kobe or Nash and Dwight or pau... Also always have either Jamison or artest at the 3.. And when u have Jamison at the 3 u put Hill at the 4... Ull always have a energy guy on the floor someone to clean up defensively n rebound the ball.. They need a TEAM defense mostly... Rotations on the low block... Plus the clippers are very deep but they have a bunch of scattered talent whose going to clean up on the glass who's going to hustle for loose balls they can't pound it inside until griffin n Jordan develop a solid post game... Look at what the hornets did to them... And they didn't even have their best players... Basketball is a matchup game taking advantage of the other teams matchup disadvantages... That's why the heat didn't win 2 years ago until they started posting up lebron opened up everything... Plus they played team defense it wasn't a man to man only when someone gets beat they rotate to stop penetration n rotate to take away the open man down low run out at open shooters contest shots... It's not just the talent u have its a team game

but what you dont understand is these 4 players when in a game can individually screw it all up for a team ... none have any talent ... metta world peace sucks ... and u cant play the top 4 for 40 minutes a game .. nash is to old and pau gasol is jsut a weak 7 ft bitch ... dwight coming off surgery ... lakers are shit and they dont have a bench ..

let it go

[MP123]

Mwp is a great role player... Did u watch the laker game today? He did miss those 2 free throws in the end of the game but he hustled his ass off he had a great game... It doesn't show in the box score but ill take mwp anyday

[You mad bro]

Mwp is a great role player... Did u watch the laker game today? He did miss those 2 free throws in the end of the game but he hustled his ass off he had a great game... It doesn't show in the box score but ill take mwp anyday

okay have fun losing

now go to bed

[Kindred]

Mwp is a great role player... Did u watch the laker game today? He did miss those 2 free throws in the end of the game but he hustled his ass off he had a great game... It doesn't show in the box score but ill take mwp anyday

He didn't help my fantasy team, I liked him better when he was jumping into the stands to fight the fans

[MP123]

It's not me losing I'm not trippin I dumped on the rockets -6 that 1 was obvious I'm a newb to this site but u gotta be daimo to not c that 1

[You mad bro]

It's not me losing I'm not trippin I dumped on the rockets -6 that 1 was obvious I'm a newb to this site but u gotta be daimo to not c that 1

daimo is an idiot capper .. but love when he goes off on everyone on this site ... mad funny

[thetrinity]

264 posts and counting

[ColdBeerHere]

Dwight Howard 3 for 12 from the FT line last night wow utterly atrocious

[wantitall4moi]

hatred? where and how? I tell it like it is. I told people lakers would stink last year and they did. They had an inflated win record because they stayed healthy and played alot of teams that had injured players. once they made the playoffs (the REAL season) they got their asses smoked. Barely made it out of the first round and for all intents and purposes got swept in the second.

Guys on that team also played over their heads most of the season, despite what people want to try and remember. Gasol played well until the play offs, Bynum was pretty dominant when they used him correctly, and ron artest actually played well which was a mjor shock. Lakers played a near perfect game last year and still werent close to good enough.

Now they add a 40 year old guy, who is still good sure, and a damaged goods guy who might be a step backwards in some respects to the guy they essentially traded for him and people think theyre light years better? THOSE people are the clueless ones.

Bynum was 26 years old and showed he could dominate a game if used properly. Howard is a misfit crybaby who stood around in the paint and grabbed misses and if he got a chance might dunk the ball his offensive skill set is almost zero. That is something Lakers will have to address unless they are happy with him standing around and getting rebounds and an occasional dunk.

Howard might be one of the most overated guys in the NBA, and that was when he was healthy. Guys like him who find excuses and whine and piss and moan about everything arent the type of guys who should be coveted. If he was really al that why didnt he get moved earlier? Because of some make believe 'he wont play for anyone long term' bullshit? Well Orlando basically gave the guy away. Which I suppose is what they were going to see happen anyway. But lakers were the only team DUMB enough to take him and HOPE to hell he signs a deal with them. Hubris is a terrible thing.

There are simply way too many negatives in this deal, and really only one or maybe 2 possible positives.

I love it because in the end the odds of something bad happening are much more likely than something good.

The perfect storm would be the Clippers winning the Pacific, Lakers being a 5 or 6 seed and then being eliminated by the Clippers in the play offs. But that probably wont happen. I figure if Howard is healthy OKC will be the team to eliminate them, although Clippers and Denver will have some major talent and depth not sure their coaching is good enough to do it.

But Mike brown isnt that good and he has already shown he cant handle guys with big egos and we have also seen what happened in Orlando to a coach that couldnt handle dwight howard. Exactly like the lebron james situations, they axed the coach hoping the star player would stay, but that wasnt good enough. so orlando learned a lesson, rather than watching another press conference by a self absorbed asshole they just traded him to anyone that would take him.

Like i said there are a lot of ways this could end badly, I am sure we will see them play out as the year goes on.

first one has already started, howard is going to miss the start of the season due to his back. So how many games is that? If he sits stil Christams and misses 12-15 games then what? It will take him another 10-20 to get into shape so theres half the season gone on a guy you dont have a contract with, and what if he decides to take it easy so not to hurt himself before he can sign with a team he really wanted to play for? That is just one possible scenario that stems from an already known aspect of this move. Lakers only had 4 games without bynum last year so transpose that to this year and howard how many games without him to start? How good are they without him (or bynum)? If he misses 20 games and they start 10-10 or worse then what?

Like i said will be interesting.

Fans or deluded people only want to see the best of any situation,they are never willing to look at all the possibilities. I just know that eventually the lakers will be a great fade, not sure how not having him works but it will surely make for some interesting futures.

this was the third comment I made, but people should really read everything I have said about the lakers..for the past 3 years, they might actually learn something.

[No coincidences]

I'll have to find the post where Goat said the Lakers will win every West series on the way to the finals in no less than 5 games. That might be the funniest thing I've ever read at SBR. Can't wait to see his disastrous proclamations crash and burn come playoff time.

[Goat Milk]

No Coincidences and others all bumped my threads when MIA started year 9-8. No team won more than 1 game in a 7 game series verse miami out of the east.

I win.

[wantitall4moi]

No Coincidences and others all bumped my threads when MIA started year 9-8. No team won more than 1 game in a 7 game series verse miami out of the east.

I win.

not sure if youre trolling or really that retarded. The differences between that miami team and this lakers tea are staggering, theyre so far on opposite ends of 'potential' that they arent even worth discussing.

[Ratzz]

this was the third comment I made, but people should really read everything I have said about the lakers..for the past 3 years, they might actually learn something.

excellent post (the original), well written, insightful. I have been predicting similar results. It is too forced, Kobe forcing Kupchak into poor long-term decisions. Everyone trying to impress and placate the Emperor.. the Laker fable can easily be read and forecast in Andersen's "The Emperor's New Clothes"*

I'll have to find the post where Goat said the Lakers will win every West series on the way to the finals in no less than 5 games. That might be the funniest thing I've ever read at SBR. Can't wait to see his disastrous proclamations crash and burn come playoff time.

every laker fan told me the same thing, complete disconnect with reality. "if Artest is back, we will sweep the Thunder".
lakers won a single game, where the refs put Kobe (alone) on the Line, for 20+ Free Throws, Lakers won by 3.
I appears that the Kobe faithful, are living in a dream, and have that same unwise "no retreat" credo that dooms so many military leaders. "Never Retreat" can only fail, because it is inflexible. (Two invasions of Russia come to mind)

No Coincidences and others all bumped my threads when MIA started year 9-8. No team won more than 1 game in a 7 game series verse miami out of the east.

I win.

this might be a good time for that 'retreat'.
if this thread were mine, i would say,, "i was taken with emotion.. it all seemed to make perfect sense for an instant"

"and in that instant i created this thread... now that i have more input, i see there are some flaws... etc..
perhaps i was a tad hasty"*

this position is increasingly impossible to defend.*

[No coincidences]

No Coincidences and others all bumped my threads when MIA started year 9-8. No team won more than 1 game in a 7 game series verse miami out of the east.

I win.

First of all, proof? You keep clumping me into the "Miami hate" from a year ago for no reason whatsoever. I'd like to see where I did that.

Big difference between standing by a Miami squad in its title prime and these dysfunctional Lakers. If you can't see that, then I can't help you.

[No coincidences]

not sure if youre trolling or really that retarded. The differences between that miami team and this lakers tea are staggering, theyre so far on opposite ends of 'potential' that they arent even worth discussing.

Both. Add egotistical and lonely.

[Goat Milk]

First of all, proof? You keep clumping me into the "Miami hate" from a year ago for no reason whatsoever. I'd like to see where I did that.

Big difference between standing by a Miami squad in its title prime and these dysfunctional Lakers. If you can't see that, then I can't help you.

Are you joking? You said MANY times, countless, that Spolestra would never win a ring. You want me to go find the posts? You said several times that Miami would not win when they first formed.

You and Lyon and everyone were laughing at me when they started the year .500. I don't forget things. You want me to go find your posts?

[t-wizzle]

Goat you're wrong about no team winning more than 1 game in a series against the Lakers but this does feel a lot like 2 years ago when everyone overreacted to the Heat's slow start.

Will LA trade Gasol?

[No coincidences]

Goat you're wrong about no team winning more than 1 game in a series against the Lakers but this does feel a lot like 2 years ago when everyone overreacted to the Heat's slow start.

Will LA trade Gasol?

Again, how is it even remotely comparable given the personnel?

[t-wizzle]

Again, how is it even remotely comparable given the personnel?

A team that added big name players and will take some time to gel.

[No coincidences]

Are you joking? You said MANY times, countless, that Spolestra would never win a ring. You want me to go find the posts? You said several times that Miami would not win when they first formed.

Two years ago, I said they wouldn't win with Spoelstra as their head coach unless LeBron absolutely took over. I never once said he'd "never win a ring" last season.

Here they are:

http://forum.sbrforum.com/search.php?searchid=6698008

In fact, I found this gem:

Spoelstra is a loser. Everyone knows that.

Followed by my response:

Spoelstra's not a loser -- he's just a coach without enough experience.

The comment re: knee-jerk reactions is rich given that's all you've been doing all night long tonight.

http://forum.sbrforum.com/players-talk/1751932-bos-gm6-ml-cant-overthink.html

Now go away. I buried you again.

[No coincidences]

A team that added big name players and will take some time to gel.

It starts and ends there.

The personnel of those Heat vs. these Lakers is downright laughable.

[Goat Milk]

dude there are so many fukkin posts I can bump that have you saying Miami won't win the title and won't even get out of the east. Everyone on this site knows it including TWizzle. I guaranteed Miami would win the east. Spoelstra is a loser. You found that gem?

"Are you telling me Spoelstra, Boosh and this joke of a supporting cast is going to beat the Celtics in a 7-game series? Come on LB." - No Coincidences.

[Goat Milk]

It drives me crazy that LeBron always tries to act so hard when he's hitting big shots against mediocre teams.

This team has ZERO chance of making the NBA Finals. ZERO.