If you don't think the Lakers Win the West, You are Delusional

**Balco10** · 08-17-12, 02:30 AM

It's a stupid topic at this point and who gives a flying Fuk! It's football season for crying out loud.

**pepero428** · 08-17-12, 12:34 PM

Originally posted by Seto

Ibaka isn't even fit to lace Howard's boots.

Evan Dunlap:

Dwight's last game with the Magic: 20 pts/22rebs/6 asts in 44 minutes, played all but :26 of 2nd half...with a herniated disk

No. 1 play is an example of why this is a major upgrade for the Lakers in terms of athleticism. Dwight Howard averaged 10.6 FTA almost double what Andrew Bynum attempted 5.6
Bynum is roughly 70% ft shooter so if he averages 5 fta probably makes 3 or 4
Howard is roughyl 50% ft shooter so if he averages ~ 10 fta probably makes 5. About the same points as Bynum from free throws but puts teams more in foul trouble as he averages more ft attempts than bynum.

Also
the Lakers bench have some young players, bench actually younger average age than Miami bench.

joel anthony is 30 ---------- devin ebanks will be 23 years old
shane battier is 33 ---------- steve blake will be 33 in February
james jones 32 in October ---- jordan hill is 25 years old (~5 pts/6 rebounds in the playoffs)
udonis haslem is 32 years old -------- chris duhon is 29 years old
mike miller will be 33 in February ------- antawn jamison is 36
mario chalmers tuns 27 in May ----- jodie meeks is 24 years old (will probably play 15 MPG behind Kobe)

Avg. age of Starters

Miami 28+ 29 + 31 + 37 + 33 = 158/5 = 31.6 round to nearest tenth = 32 years old
Lakers 33 + 27 + 33 + 39 + 32 = 164/5 = 32.8 round to nearest tenth = 33 years old

lebron turns 28 this December _______ mwp will be 33 years old in November
bosh will turn 29 in March _________ howard will be 27 years old in December
wade will be 31 in January _______ kobe is 33 (turns 34 in August After playoffs)
ray allen is 37 ___________ nash will be 39 in February
rashard lewis is 33 _________ pau is 32, turns 33 after playoffs

**upscope** · 08-18-12, 01:08 AM

Originally posted by Goat Milk

Let me know when you place a good-sized bet on Lakers or Heat to win it all--since it's such an obvious pick--I guess if it were so obvious then books would be bankrupt giving out +200 futures on sure things.

You lose.

Thanx for making my point Goat. You're thumping your chest trying desperately to get people to believe you're an NBA guru because you picked the +200 pre-season fav. The point is correctly picking the +200 fav vs the field of 30 teams is not an accomplishment that qualifies one as being an NBA guru. What it does do is let everyone know that you were capable of recognizing which team the books felt was most likely to win...congrats genius~

**frostno98** · 08-18-12, 01:36 AM

If my Nuggets don't do it, I will rooting for OKC who's still the better team in the West than the old Lakers.

**Seto** · 08-18-12, 02:23 AM

Originally posted by frostno98

If my Nuggets don't do it, I will rooting for OKC who's still the better team in the West than the old Lakers.

Wish luck to OKC then

**Ratzz** · 08-19-12, 06:22 AM

i am afraid this point is officially moot. IBAKA just contract extension with the THUNDER.
Any discussions about The Wild West (Lakers–this.. Fakers–that)

…are officially *O*V*E*R*.*

**Bryant24** · 08-21-12, 05:32 PM

New team, but I think they're gonna get it.

**SportsTerminator** · 08-25-12, 07:51 PM

Lakers are the team to beat .

**BigDofBA** · 11-03-12, 12:22 AM

Yeah....

I know it's early but LA has issues.

**hawley** · 11-03-12, 12:27 AM

Originally posted by BigDofBA

Yeah....

I know it's early but LA has issues.

Three losses into the season. Come on pal.

**brainfreeze0** · 11-03-12, 01:02 AM

Wonder how many of us are delusional at this point by this threads standards

**Ratzz** · 11-03-12, 08:52 AM

k0bie> STATS vs. Clippers:

23-shots
6 TURNOVERS
"1 ASSIST"

GASOL and D12.. combined shots.. 16 FG Attempts.

in case anybody wants to know.. that is 69% more shots that both BIG MEN combined.
who would do that?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8YxH6XCpB4

i have said since the trades happened.. since before the pre-season debacle..
that this "INSTANT champion'.. "just add Gatorade'' ..

WAS-GOING-TO-FAIL... they are not 0-3.. they are 0-11.

this is a lottery team. they will lose Howard <Brooklyn>
where he will start hitting .66% of his FTs... because he wants to be there

Kupchak, UNBELIEVABLY blew through FOUR 1st Rounders and TWO 2nd Rounders in 6 months..
their Lottery pick is going to someone else!! lol..

what a mess..

**chopperocker** · 11-03-12, 08:55 AM

auto fade for the 2012-13 season OVERRATED and OVERPRICED. complete f'n squares.

**BigDofBA** · 11-03-12, 10:04 AM

Originally posted by hawley

Three losses into the season. Come on pal.

I said it was early did I not?

With that said, they DO have issues. Brown can't coach and the pieces they have don't fit together well.

**No coincidences** · 11-03-12, 10:07 AM

Same old Lakers (and I do mean old literally). Only difference is now they have a sulky baby instead of a loose cannon on the low blocks that brings the team's attitude and body language down even more.

**wantitall4moi** · 11-03-12, 10:44 AM

As usual I am the smartest guy in any thread when it comes to the lakers, everything I said about them is a glaring example of why theyre losing.

Kobe, Howard, and Gasol cant play better than they are. Nash could improve somewhat but is hurt, but even if he gets quite a bit better it doesnt help their bench or their defense.

If lakers played half the defense theyplayed last year they would be 3-0 right now.

**No coincidences** · 11-03-12, 10:50 AM

Originally posted by wantitall4moi

If lakers played half the defense theyplayed last year they would be 3-0 right now.

Their D is nothing short of atrocious. Say all you want about having to adjust to each other and adjust to a new offense, but the defense is all about effort and they're showing zero.

**Goat Milk** · 11-03-12, 12:53 PM

LOL just like you guys were bumping my MIA threads 2 years ago when they started 9-8

Remember me guaranteeing they would win the East or I would leave this site forever?

Same thing gonna happen here again.

Watch what you all say.

Don't make yourselves look like fools when playoffs roll around, you'll be wishing you hadn't made a comment in this thread

**Goat Milk** · 11-03-12, 12:55 PM

Regular season means nothing. How many times do I have to explain this on this site. I remember BigDOA and others talking about "Miami's issues closing games" when they formed. And "no way they would beat a defensive juggernaut like the Bulls in a 7 game series. No way."

Relax.

**RudyRuetigger** · 11-03-12, 12:58 PM

In Goat we Trust

**40ozfreedom** · 11-03-12, 03:26 PM

If you dont think the Knicks win the Atlantic, you're delusional.

OH WAIT!!!

I've heard this story before. besides, when was the last time the lakers won a basketball game? may?

**BigDofBA** · 11-03-12, 11:25 PM

Originally posted by Goat Milk

Regular season means nothing. How many times do I have to explain this on this site. I remember BigDOA and others talking about "Miami's issues closing games" when they formed. And "no way they would beat a defensive juggernaut like the Bulls in a 7 game series. No way."

Relax.

Why do people keep saying the regular season means nothing?

All of the higher seeds advanced every round in the playoffs last year except for the bulls because they had the Rose injury.

Also, if you look at the last 15 years, the team that wins it all has been one of the top 2 teams in the regular season like 95% of the time and most of the time, the best team in the league during the regular season wins it all.

If you really think that the season doesn't matter you're stupid. Look at the teams that have won in all the past 10-15 years.

Bulls 3x
Spurs 4x
Lakers 5x
Heat 2x
Celtics
Mavericks

If you want to go back further, you can go ahead and count the Bulls first three titles as well.

I think Dallas was the lowest seed to win (#3) it all. So pretty, the better teams during the regular season are the better teams during the playoffs.

People made excuses for the Lakers last year and they went out in the second round of the playoffs as #3 seed to the #2 seed Thunder just like they were supposed to.

The regular season doesn't matter thing is an excuse.

**iQon** · 11-03-12, 11:33 PM

Originally posted by Ratzz

they are not 0-3.. they are 0-11.

this is a lottery team. they will lose Howard

where he will start hitting .66% of his FTs... because he wants to be there

And the winner for dumbest post of the month goes to...

**wantitall4moi** · 11-03-12, 11:40 PM

Originally posted by Goat Milk

Regular season means nothing. How many times do I have to explain this on this site. I remember BigDOA and others talking about "Miami's issues closing games" when they formed. And "no way they would beat a defensive juggernaut like the Bulls in a 7 game series. No way."

Relax.

thats right Lakers have had the best or close to the best record the past few years, first round elimination one year and should have gotten beat by Denver last year but refs made sure they made it, but they were unceremoniously swept in four games in round two, so six of one I guess.

Unless Pat Riley or Phil Jackson starts coaching this team again I give them abut a 1% chance to win another title, and I dont care who is on the team, especially as long as kobe bryant is one of them.

**lunchbawks** · 11-03-12, 11:45 PM

lakers aren't half the team san antonio is. spurs are the deepest team in the league andeveryone can shoot.

LA you have 3 max players and a crap bench, until they prove otherwise

**BigDofBA** · 11-03-12, 11:46 PM

Here is a stat for all of the bandwagon Laker fans that continue to say the regular season means nothing and have the false hope their "team" will somehow turn it on when it matters.

In the 32 years since the 1980 season, the NBA championship has been won by one of the two No. 1 seeds 23 times, or 72 percent of the time.

5 times the title has been won by the # 2 seed.

So 28 out of the last 32 years the NBA champion has been a #1 or #2 seed.

Yeah, obviously the regular season doesn't matter. LOL. Morons.

I believe the other champs were

#5 Houston
#4 Detroit
#3 Dallas

**Big Bear** · 11-07-12, 08:54 AM

spurs

**Goat Milk** · 11-07-12, 09:03 AM

Spurs and Bulls top seeds in each conference each of the last couple years and neither could get by the more talented teams. Chicago will never beat MIA with that roster. Ever. I said it when MIA first joined and all the "experts" on this site claimed MIA was basically Cleveland,

LOL the disrespect. D Wade a 25 5 and 6 career stats player find me 5 other guys that have those numbers for their career.

You can't. It's 2 of the 3 best players in the world on 1 team and a top 20 player.

Lakers have 2 of the top 5 players in the world on 1 team and 2 top 25 players. No team outside of MIA will be stopping them this year.

**ngates815** · 11-07-12, 09:08 AM

lol

**wantitall4moi** · 11-07-12, 09:33 AM

Originally posted by Goat Milk

Spurs and Bulls top seeds in each conference each of the last couple years and neither could get by the more talented teams. Chicago will never beat MIA with that roster. Ever. I said it when MIA first joined and all the "experts" on this site claimed MIA was basically Cleveland,

LOL the disrespect. D Wade a 25 5 and 6 career stats player find me 5 other guys that have those numbers for their career.

You can't. It's 2 of the 3 best players in the world on 1 team and a top 20 player.

Lakers have 2 of the top 5 players in the world on 1 team and 2 top 25 players. No team outside of MIA will be stopping them this year.

who did they sign I didnt hear about?

HOward is probably the most over rated player of the past 20 years. Now he is hurt, and he was always soft. So he is a triple threat when it comes to his contributions to a team.

Kobe is playing on 38 year old legs, and is clearly slowing down, it showed last year, and it is already showing this year as he is already hurting. But he is still a a ball hogging egomaniac so he has that going for him.

Nash wasnt relevant 3 years ago, he is not even in the same league as the young quick guys, he never did play defense.

Gasol is just going through the motions now collecting a paycheck. they tried to trade him and it failed, he hasnt forgot that you can bet on that. He will have a game or two here or there where he shows what he could do if he was given the chance but not much else.

So I am not sure where youre getting the top players on this team.

But even if they did, the bench is full of scrubs that dont belong on a D league team let alone an NBA roster.

**Frisco** · 11-07-12, 09:41 AM

Ray Allen and Rashard don't start for Miami. Whomever stated they do needs to watch more games.

**ngates815** · 11-07-12, 09:42 AM

Originally posted by wantitall4moi

who did they sign I didnt hear about?

HOward is probably the most over rated player of the past 20 years. Now he is hurt, and he was always soft. So he is a triple threat when it comes to his contributions to a team.

Kobe is playing on 38 year old legs, and is clearly slowing down, it showed last year, and it is already showing this year as he is already hurting. But he is still a a ball hogging egomaniac so he has that going for him.

Nash wasnt relevant 3 years ago, he is not even in the same league as the young quick guys, he never did play defense.

Gasol is just going through the motions now collecting a paycheck. they tried to trade him and it failed, he hasnt forgot that you can bet on that. He will have a game or two here or there where he shows what he could do if he was given the chance but not much else.

So I am not sure where youre getting the top players on this team.

But even if they did, the bench is full of scrubs that dont belong on a D league team let alone an NBA roster.

Did you pick the Miami heat to win it all last year? Did you pick them to make it to the finals the year before? I didn't think so, so your opinion doesn't matter.................................. ..

**Frisco** · 11-07-12, 09:45 AM

"Kobe is playing on 38 year old legs, and is clearly slowing down, it showed last year,"

Kobe has looked exceptionally quick this year. Great shooting percentage so far too. Not sure how you can say he's slowing down too much

And isn't Kobe like 34 anyway??

**Ratzz** · 11-07-12, 12:30 PM

this thread is ridiculous..

they are 1-11 this season..

their lone victory was against the PISTONS having on off-night

Faker fans are truly insane,,

cannot...
will not read the writing on the wall.

**No coincidences** · 11-07-12, 12:57 PM

Originally posted by Frisco

Kobe has looked exceptionally quick this year. Great shooting percentage so far too. Not sure how you can say he's slowing down too much

And isn't Kobe like 34 anyway??

Kobe is 34, but he's far from 100%. Again.

Bryant said he was playing on one leg and told reporters in the locker room after the game that he felt like his right foot was "about to fall off" during the game.

Bryant: Felt like injured foot 'about to fall off'

http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/8585914/kobe-bryant-los-angeles-lakers-says-felt-injured-foot-was-fall-off

Kobe Bryant said he was playing on one leg and told reporters in the locker room after Friday's game that he felt like his right foot was "about to fall off" during the game.