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WOODSON is better than Polamalu...............both could certainly be OVERrated because like many great players, they receive great attention from the media.
But make no bones about it, both are better than just ALL-PRO and HALL OF FAME players..............they are both great, Woodson slightly more so.
Not sure if WOODSON is OVERrated actually.................some would state he is UNDERrated.Comment -
The knock on Woodson is his durability. He seems to finish every season with an injury and fades down the stretch every year. At age 35, he's getting towards the end and every game from here on out is a gift.
He is being considered for DEFENSIVE PLAYER of the year currently, an award he won just two years ago if not mistaken................and how is a SAFETY not considerd a DEFENSIVE BACK???
WOODSON is one of a select few GREAT DEFENSIVE players we have seen in the past 30 years..............
Sure Woodson won a DPOY award but so did Bob Sanders and sucked ever since. I wouldn't even have him in the top 5 for DPOY this year, 1.Allen 2.Suggs 3.JPP 4.Willis 5.VonMiller. I know he's got some nifty fantasy numbers, but he's not even a top 5 NFL DB anymore.Comment -
Plus, Woodson didn't even deserve DPOY.
People who actually know something about defensive back play mostly agreed DARRELLE REVIS deserved it.[quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
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[quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]Comment -
I'm pretty sure that woodson is the leading cornerback tackler in the NFL EVERY YEAR
He is also up there in picks this year.
Fades down stretch? I remember Woodson almost taking the shitty fukin raiders to through the AFC when he sacked Brady and then they invented that "tuck rule"
You guys don't remember woodson on the raiders, do you. People were scared to throw his way.
Also heisman winner. For a CB. Let me know when else that has happened.Cause Sleep is the Cousin of DeathComment -
They had problems at Soldier field last year before Cutler got hurt. That game was close. Additionally, Philly had a chance to beat them in Philly on Cold night. That game came down to a Vick INT in last minute. Rodgers has admitted that he does not like playing in the Cold. When people start dropping his missles because its 0 degrees out do you think that Starks and Grant can deliver? Maybe. Im just saying, this team is built for indoor conditions. Bad weather is the only chance the field has to take down the Pack and now they are getting 2x games at home in Jan. You tell me?Comment -
this is the dumbest bet i have ever seen... -150? really?Comment -
giants have the best shot. tough RBs, clutch QB. If the whole team (Eli already has it) finds the heart they had in 2007, they can do it
saints are soft and not worth shit outside Brees. Brees needs to go like 32/35 3 TDs 0 INTs to win
Niners have 0.00% chance to win in Lambeau -3 degrees. Smith would choke to death on that stage. O/U 3 INTs. Pass D is horrible (torn up by SKELTON last week). No way in hell they are ready for a win like thatComment -
NFL
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[quote=rockhardfister;12779164]They had problems at Soldier field last year before Cutler got hurt. That game was close. Additionally, Philly had a chance to beat them in Philly on Cold night. That game came down to a Vick INT in last minute. Rodgers has admitted that he does not like playing in the Cold. When people start dropping his missles because its 0 degrees out do you think that Starks and Grant can deliver? Maybe. Im just saying, this team is built for indoor conditions. Bad weather is the only chance the field has to take down the Pack and now they are getting 2x games at home in Jan. You tell me?[/quote
GB struggles with Chicago somewhat because Soldier Field is one of the most torn up fields in the NFL and the Bears know them so well. On your other point...who likes playing in sub freezing weather? I get what you're saying but what power running/great defensive team are you speaking of from the NFC that can overpower them? There isn't one. The Giants are probably worse running the ball than the Packers. Saints and Falcons are southern dome teams. Reality is catching up with SF. The Bears are done....who else is there? Finally....Pro Bowl Tackle Chad Clifton will be back shortly to protect Rodgers blind side. I'd say GB makes the SB atleast 65% of the time which makes -150 a decent valueComment -
I like Woodson, but he holds and is very prone to being exposed. D coordinator is a genius for putting him in great spots.Comment -
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[QUOTE=Mr Handicapable;12781682]Agree its a good bet and they should get there. However, the Giants and the Falcons are both capable of playing great defense and eating the clock up. GB blew the doors off ATL last year and also handled them this year but that doesnt mean its always going to be like that. ATL may look like a dome team but they can run and they they have an effective short passing game, the #2 rush def and #10 pass def. I dont know how anyone can discount the Saints! common man. Giants D is capable of taking over any game but they havent been healthy in the secondary. This thing is wide open.Comment -
I'm pretty sure that woodson is the leading cornerback tackler in the NFL EVERY YEAR
He is also up there in picks this year.
Fades down stretch? I remember Woodson almost taking the shitty fukin raiders to through the AFC when he sacked Brady and then they invented that "tuck rule"
You guys don't remember woodson on the raiders, do you. People were scared to throw his way.
Also heisman winner. For a CB. Let me know when else that has happened.
He is also THE MASTER at stripping the football................he practically invented it.
Guy is so good it's unbelievable.
By the way, he is also a GREAT LEADER............he has more leadership qualities in his little pinky than Revis does in half his body.
Woodson is do darn good!Comment -
Your starting to sound like Patriot fans. In the last decade your Pack got beat by NY in the NFC championship game and VICKtimized by the Falcons at Lambeau.Comment -
they will be 10.5 to 11 pts first game and depending who they play in nfc title game and how they played id say -8 to minus 9...Comment -
Charles Woodson is ranked #39 in tackles amongst DBs in 2011.I'm pretty sure that woodson is the leading cornerback tackler in the NFL EVERY YEAR
He is also up there in picks this year.
Fades down stretch? I remember Woodson almost taking the shitty fukin raiders to through the AFC when he sacked Brady and then they invented that "tuck rule"
You guys don't remember woodson on the raiders, do you. People were scared to throw his way.
Also heisman winner. For a CB. Let me know when else that has happened.
He has never been ranked higher than #20 in tackles amongst DBs.
If you want to ignore his 35 year age and pretend he's still 25, I guess you can dream.Comment -
This same monster Giants D that just gave up 4 tds/no picks to Tony Romo with receivers running downfield all by themselves.
Rodgers could get hurt....anyone could get hurt but the original thread is about the line of (-150). That means that 40% of the time Rodgers would be knocked out of the game and Flynn would be unable to win it. He missed 1 game last year because his head got bounced off the Detroit turf. These will be on grass....you people are grasping at straws. Huge HUGE upset if anyone beats GB in Lambeau this year.Comment -
Total Tackles by cornerbacks in 2011:
87 Jason McCourty TEN
86 Charles Tillman CHI
79 Deangelo Hall WAS
72 Kyle Arrington NE
71 Devin McCourty NE
69 Tim Jennings CHI
67 Ronde Barber TB
63 Cortland Finnegan TEN
62 Cedric Griffin MIN
62 Ladarius Webb BAL
62 Cary Williams BAL
61 Charles Woodson GB
Woodson is 12th on this list, which is no where near elite considering the NFL only has 64 starting CBs.
Total Tackles by cornerbacks career (active)
1157 Ronde Barber (1997-2011)
991 Antoine Winfield (1999-2011)
886 Charles Woodson (1998-2011)
Woodson is 3rd on the total tackles active career list for CBs, but it's mostly a tribute to his longevity over 14 seasons.
I also did a search of career active CB tackles/game (min 100 tackles) and Woodson is only #24 on that list.Comment
