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After 8 of their starting 22 guys got hurt through those 5 games, you would see the depth BSU has as opposed to the depth of those other teams, and the reason why they are not an elite program.Comment -
I think 4-1 ........and Nellyinctown i agree with you ......the depth is better now than it has been but we are not as deep as those other teams but if we are in a conference with sec teams we would then have more money and in turn be able to get more top quality players.Comment -
when is the last time Boise played an Sec team
was it gerogia loss 48-13
you know why you really think this
You prefer thinking like this and having the idea where you got srewed out of the BCS
rather than actually playing someone and getting Pounded
the evidence is there , When You do schedule someone you barely make top 10
when you dont you make a good Bcs Bowl game
anyway thats the real deal how that Boise organization works and thinksComment -
Sure they will go 5-0 or 4-1 facing the best SEC teams on back to back to back to back to back weeks.
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That's why they play the games!
Personally, I would like to see a TCU or Boise play for the National championship. Who thought Utah would beat Alabama a few years ago? NCAA football isn't just 2 or 3 power conferences anymore.
Since the internet was born and high school athletics are being televised and you tube is as big as it is and you can probably name 1000+ other sites, the former lower tier conferences are getting better kids to come to their schools which is narrowing the gap between what the media has (for decades) told us who the top teams are and who they tell us the "weak" conferences are! It's like arguing who the best boxer of all time.
Until the landscape of college football changes and until a playoff system is put into place, this is a thread that will be revisited EVERY year!!!! Let the chips fall where they may and the games play out before getting to excited.Comment -
BSU is a good program because they have guys who stay in the program for 4 or 5 years, whereas for the most part the bigger schools are on a faster track of 2-3 years with their players because they either go pro, come in from top Juco's, or better recruits replace them. I think BSU is starting to see better players, but they are not getting 5 star recruits. The issue is like some of the smaller basketball schools who have 5 starting seniors against 1 and done recruiting teams....a good team is a good team.
To answer the subject of this thread Boise St I think would show well in the National title game against anyone - but their road to get there is not as tough as the teams in the SEC. That isn't their fault though, the system is flawed, and they need a playoff to settle the argument once and for all.Comment -
I'm so tired of hearing casual fans of the sport cry about Boise getting screwed. Here's a thought, get out of the WAC and go independant or make an effort to join a real conference, play a tough schedule if you want to be considered an elite team. If you're a player and want to play for a NC don't go to Boise, go to an SEC school and play against some real competition. If you don't or aren't good enough then shut up and enjoy playing your weekly patsies.
I enjoy watching them play and like the way they are coached but honestly playing those 5 straight SEC schools mentioned earlier I doubt they get a win out of that bunch. They have little depth and would be so beat up lining up against brutal competition week in and week out those games would get ugly. In fact top 5 or 6 SEC schools would beat not just Boise but an entire WAC all-star team and it wouldn't be close. It's one thing to play one big game a year and quite another to play 7 or 8 big games/tough teams all year long. Boise is a fun team to watch, thoughts about them being close to best team in nation are downright laughable. 'Nuff said.Comment -
The problem is $$$$!!! We are still too small to bring in the revenue to join a big conference! We are going to have to beat up on the Mountain West which has turned into a bigger brother of the WAC and add seats to our stadium and settle for BCS games until we have the money that will contribute to a big conference such as the Pac 10!
I can see people getting annoyed obviously I am a BSU fan and I get annoyed of all the talk about how BSU gets screwed, but I think there is more to the story than Boise go play someone worth a $^&% and maybe you will be worthy.
All Boise can do is beat the big boys early in the season Oregon, Va Tech and beat the big boy at the end of the season Oklahoma, and the best team in Texas right now TCU!
Hopefully one day Boise will be in a big conference and all this talk will go away.....or a playoff but I dont see that happening!Comment -
If Boise win out, they deserve to be in National Title game.Comment -
This is why God made bowl games. Boise will be in a bowl game. I really don't care that much if it is a national title game or not. Hopefully it is against a major conference team, though.Comment -
My YMCA team has been undefeated the last 5 years. We deserve a BCS bowl game over Boise. In fact, our competition is just as good as who Boise's played.
Boise is a fuking joke. They play on a joke ass field, with a joke ass gimmicky offense. Quit scamming the system and go out and play someone you fuking crybabies. Quit bitching about noone wants to play you. Noone wants to play you on that crappy ass field. HS teams here in Texas get larger crowds than your pathetic place. You want to play the best than go to their house with zero return to your puke blue bullshit field.
Go back and look at all the top 10 teams FSU played when they won a title. They played 3 top 10 teams and 7 top 25 teams when they won in 1990. Boise might not play 1 top 25 team when it's all said and done. Their best win is still over a suck ass VT team whose currently losing to a suck ass GT team. Boise has scammed the public by playing 1 or 2 teams with a pulse A YEAR and think they deserve something. Why is this even a discussion. Shouldn't you at least play a top 10 team before you can even be considered a top 10 team???
This shit is ridiculous. Applachian State is undefeated too. Why not put them in the title game??? Fuk Boise, fuking scammers.Comment -
If thats your rationale then Boise might as well quit competing in Division I. Undefeated for two straight years, beat a pretty good VTech team and a pretty good Oregon State team, if Boise is so bad, why didnt those two teams beat them? Boise has paid their dues. I remember last year when so many analysts wouldnt put Boise number one and most of them said "Now if Boise comes back and runs the table the next year then yeah we will have no choice but to have them as number one". Well guess what their undefeated again and about to run the table, but most of these analysts are now backtracking on what they said. Disgusting.Comment -
a shot for a national title is not a lifetime achievement award. this isn't the fkn Grammies.Comment -
Seriously it's absurd if you don't think Boise deserves a shot how can you even enjoy watching college football....or why not take all the non automatic qualifying conferences and take them out of Div. 1 what's the ******* point?
By the way Boise handily beats every team they play week in and week out. I'd like to see Auburn play their same schedule the past two seasons and see if they have the same results. This team doesnt take a week off. Every single week they ABSOLUTELY destroy these inferior teams....meanwhile teams like LSU struggle to beat Mcneese ******* stateComment -
Please don't mention Vtech and pretty good in the same sentence. When is the last time VT has beaten a top 10 team? How about next to never. They are overhyped as much as Boise. You can go back 3 decades and not find one quality win VT has had. Try it...
Oregon State? The same OSU who lost to Washington? Neither VT or OSU are what we would call elite teams. They're not even top 20 teams. How can you give BSU credit for not playing even 1 team in the top 10 nor the top 20 and probably not one even in the top 25? How is playing NOONE IN THE TOP 20 PAYING YOUR DUES???
Do yourself a favor and look at all the teams that have played for a MNC the past 10 years. Find me one team that played a schedule as bad as BSU and I will change my view. I'll save you the trouble. BSU's schedule is horrid and embarrassing. To think they deserve a shot by purposely scheduling not 1 top 10 team is egregious. I can list 20+ teams that would go undefeated with BSU's schedule.Comment -
You know a lot of people would have said the same thing about Butler's basketball schedule....and guess what they almost pulled it off.
I'm not saying that Boise is week in and week out the best team in the country and yea they play and easier schedule. But they DESTROY that easier schedule impressively and at this point to not give them the shot is a ******* crime and makes me hate the sport and the way they decide their national champion.
Again if these big conference schools are so much better why don't they schedule Boise State at home? I'll tell you why, it's because they know there's a good chance they'll lose.
Stop sucking the SEC's dick because they arent nearly as good as they've been in the past. If Boise plays Auburn, Florida, Georgia, or LSU they would beat the hell out of them simple as that.
Give the team a chance....and I can't wait for it to happen because they will destroy whoever it is they play for the national championsip. They are so hungry to show the world how much credit they really deserve that it's going to be a blowoutComment -
Dude you must be a republican right? I am guessing that because you state things as facts when they arent true at all......Boise State Beat Va. Tech when they were ranked #10 in the country and they did in on the road......They beat a top 10 TCU team last year, and a top 10 Oklahoma team in a BCS bowl game. Get your facts straight and give credit where credit is dueComment -
Please cut the shit. The minute BSU schedules a legitimate teams than people will give them respect. When your best win is over a VT team who sucks ass, your making a mockery of CFB.
I can only assume that your very young. Let me post for you FSU's schedule when they won the MNC. They were a program like BSU, on the rise but they went out and played teams with a pulse, so there was no question they deserved consideration. Look at the rankings of the teams they played and then tell me that BSU deserves consideration?
@ Kansas (Kickoff Classic)
@ Duke
#17 Clemson
@ #13 North Carolina
Georgia Tech
#3 Miami
#15 Virginia
Wake Forest
@ Maryland
@ #2 Notre Dame
North Carolina State
@ #7 Florida
#2 Nebraska
FSU played 7 top 25 teams. All of which were ranked ahead of every team BSU will play this year. Think about that??? They played 7 teams ranked higher than any team Boise will play. Come on man.Comment -
I dont need to do a history check, all I know is Boise is undefeated for two straight years and beat the number 4 TCU last year in a bowl. Boise started off ranked high, so its not like they started out below the top 25, if so I wouldnt be making this argument. Basically youre saying no matter what they do they cant play for a chip, thats absurd, and Im sick of people saying if they were in the SEC they would have about 3 losses at least by now, thats a bad argument, because if they were in the SEC they would be getting far better talent than what they have now.Comment -
Dude **** rankings and whatever other bullshit reason you want to come up with to tell me why they don't deserve a chance. Name me two teams in the country that are better than Boise....please I beg you Oregon????? LMFAO they've played one real team and it was Stanford who was kicking their ass most of the game... Look at the rest of their schedule. Auburn They struggled to beat clemson at home for god sakes, and beat Kentucky by 3. I'm 26 and I dont know how old or young you are.....but what I do know is that you are not very intelligentComment -
Get your facts straight. Several teams have called Boise out and BSU will not do a one and done with any of the top teams. They want a return to their horrendous crappy blue turf that holds less people than the HS game I'm going to tomorrow night. When is the last time BSU did a one and done??? I'll wait for your response.Comment -
Even if they played in the SEC they wouldnt have more than 1 loss. The SEC is not that great this year.....no teams are that great. If there was any year to give Boise a chance it would be this year and if you disagree then you just don't know what you're talking about it's that simple......They are going to destory Hawaii tomorrow as well and a ranked Nevada team..... I can't even have this argument because if I have to debate it whoever I am debating it with is a ******* nitwit....simple as thatComment -
First you say that they need to schedule top teams....them when they beat those top #10 teams on the road you say the team they played actually sucked... You're just a hater. And Florida States record against the top 25 when they won it has nothing to do this year. THIS YEAR Boise is the most deserving team of being in the national championship....especially once Auburn loses. stop hatingComment -
and like I said, my YMCA team is undefeated 5 straight years with wins over the top 2 team in the state. Of course I'm saying that NO MATTER WHAT they do not deserve to play for the title with that crappy schedule. If they had a legitimate schedule, then I would consider them legitimate. That doesn't mean they can't get a BCS bowl bid but to be considered the best team in the country shouldn't you have to play at least a few teams in the top 10 - 15? How about playing 1 team in the top 25? Right now it's looking like they won't have one quality win the entire year. Not one... Come on man.
It has nothing to do with what conference they are in. It has everything to do with who they play. Step up and play a top 5 team, a top 10 team and a couple of top 20 teams and you'd get respect. TCU is much more deserving and I don't care that BSU beat them LAST YEAR. I'm talking about this year. Schedule better, play better teams and there will be no discussion.
Now let's talk about talent... Boise can't sniff the top 50 in recruiting. Their talent level is sub par. Their coaching is where they shine. The big boys all put out more NFL players each year than what Boise does in many years. It is what it is. Even if BSU joined a big conference they would still lag in talent. Who the hell wants to go to Boise to play? What conference wants to add Boise to their league? Nobody... Sorry to burst your bubble but nobody is beating down BSU's door for them to join their conference.Comment -
You do realize schedules are made years in advance dont you? They can schedule Alabama tomorrow for the 2013 schedule and by that time Alabama can not even be a top 25 team, what then? Guess Boise should be able to predict whose in the top 10 in 3 years before the rank them also? Nah, your argument about talent is the reverse of my explanation.Comment -
What top 10 team has Boise beat? Please don't give me preseason rankings dude. I don't have a reason to hate against BSU. I call it as I see it. Penn State played a crap schedule a few years ago and I bashed them as well.
I know your slow so let me explain why I mentioned FSU. They were an upcoming program like BSU but they actually deserved a BCS bowl bid, based on who they've played THAT YEAR. Look at the history of the MNC and find me a team that played in the title game that had as bad a schedule as BSU? Find me one team. Use facts not emotion.
Like I said, I don't have a problem with BSU getting a bowl bid, even though it's still a scam. BUT to think they deserve MNC consideration when they haven't played a single team in the top 20 is stupid. How can you be called the best when you haven't played the best
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That's the price you pay when you schedule a team. Oregon State and VaTech could very well be leading the Pac10 and ACC with only 1 losses each right now which would have boosted BSU's argument. Unfortunately for them, both teams are trash. If I'm Boise, I don't schedule teams that are known to choke (VaTech, OU). I'd go after teams that are good almost every year nationally (Ohio State, Bama, USC, etc.) Plus if my conference sucks then I would play 4 tough OOC games to offset the suckitude. I'd play at least 2 teams that are always competing for their conference and 2 other teams that are national names.
Boise made a mistake IMO by only playing VaTech and Oregon State. It's not enough. They are not alone, several teams have been left out of the MNC because of schedule. It's always been this way. Noone's singling BSU out. You have to play a quality schedule. That's just the way it is. BSU still might get a BCS bid which I think is wrong because they make a ton of money by not having to play much. It's unfair to other teams.Comment
