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  • JayTrotter
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    • 03-27-10
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    #71
    This is the same thing they say about college basketball, and last time I checked I personally like sports because there is a chance anything can happen. A team hits above it's weight and wins 4 games in a row. Now the Big boys are the ones running the show, if they really felt that Boise was another Alabama A&M they would have a playoff. They don't, so they don't.

    Last time I remembered sports is about showing how you stack up on the field, all the thoughts on the greatness of a conference versus another, are not worth the bandwidth they are printed on.

    People are so scared of change, got to make sure the BIG 12 and SEC stay on top. Play somebody out of conference and then you will be able to have a legitimate beef with the system rewarding Boise for winning.
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    • Donkwin47
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      • 03-12-10
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      #72
      Originally posted by alukk
      Boise St wont be a 10 point dog vs any team this year in a neutral field, The only team that can make them 10 points UD is Oregon.
      It's funny you say that because Oregon is the one team that I'm really hoping Boise ends up playing. Would love to collect that free money with Boise tearing up that joke of a defense.
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      • BiffTFinancial
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        • 01-29-09
        • 22670

        #73
        Originally posted by JayTrotter
        This is the same thing they say about college basketball, and last time I checked I personally like sports because there is a chance anything can happen. A team hits above it's weight and wins 4 games in a row. Now the Big boys are the ones running the show, if they really felt that Boise was another Alabama A&M they would have a playoff. They don't, so they don't.

        Last time I remembered sports is about showing how you stack up on the field, all the thoughts on the greatness of a conference versus another, are not worth the bandwidth they are printed on.

        People are so scared of change, got to make sure the BIG 12 and SEC stay on top. Play somebody out of conference and then you will be able to have a legitimate beef with the system rewarding Boise for winning.
        you can't have everyone play everyone else when, by the nature of the sport, they can only play once a week. hoops is fundamentally different in that you can play a 64-team tournament in 19 days. and please, don't say, 'well, we could do 16 or 8.' teams like West Virginia, Florida State, Virginia Tech, Iowa, they don't deserve to play for the title. there's always next year.
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        • Donkwin47
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          • 03-12-10
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          #74
          Originally posted by BiffTFinancial
          you can't have everyone play everyone else when, by the nature of the sport, they can only play once a week. hoops is fundamentally different in that you can play a 64-team tournament in 19 days. and please, don't say, 'well, we could do 16 or 8.' teams like West Virginia, Florida State, Virginia Tech, Iowa, they don't deserve to play for the title. there's always next year.
          You're dumb. Iowa could beat any team in the nation on the right day. Alabama would be the toughest test for them IMO.. No one really understands how close Iowa is to being undefeated and ranked in the top 3. If they were, you wouldn't be saying this. It tilts me hard when people are results oriented and really don't know what they're talking about.
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          • BiffTFinancial
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            • 01-29-09
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            #75
            Originally posted by Donkwin47

            You're dumb. Iowa could beat any team in the nation on the right day. Alabama would be the toughest test for them IMO.. No one really understands how close Iowa is to being undefeated and ranked in the top 3. If they were, you wouldn't be saying this. It tilts me hard when people are results oriented and really don't know what they're talking about.
            Physician, heal thyself. Sports and particularly gambling are pretty results-oriented. Iowa could beat anyone on any day - that's not the point. You could say that of any number of teams, but as i've said multiple times, they forfeited their right to play for the national title. When? When they lost to Arizona, then at home against Wisconsin. Iowa's a very good team, but they had their chance and lost - twice. Unlike other boring sports, you can't lose a bunch of games in this one and still be champion. Now, please continue educating me on what i'm talking about....
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            • Donkwin47
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              • 03-12-10
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              #76
              LSU had 2 losses just a fewa years ago and WON the national title, but 2 loss teams in your opinion shouldn't even have the right to play in a group of 16 for a chance? They's still have to win 4 games to prove themselves again, no one's handing them anything.. George Mason's run to the Final Four was one of the most exciting things to ever happen in that tournament, but I'm sure people could argue that they should never have been in the tourney to begin with. I'm not arguing solely for Iowa, I just think it's dumb to quickly write off teams so easily.
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              • BiffTFinancial
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                • 01-29-09
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                #77
                Originally posted by Donkwin47
                LSU had 2 losses just a fewa years ago and WON the national title, but 2 loss teams in your opinion shouldn't even have the right to play in a group of 16 for a chance? They's still have to win 4 games to prove themselves again, no one's handing them anything.. George Mason's run to the Final Four was one of the most exciting things to ever happen in that tournament, but I'm sure people could argue that they should never have been in the tourney to begin with. I'm not arguing solely for Iowa, I just think it's dumb to quickly write off teams so easily.
                I'm not sure that that LSU team is your best argument in favor of a playoff. That team was fugly, and that year, it seemed like no one wanted to win the title. And George Mason has nothing to do with this. How exciting last weekend's Iowa-Wisky game does (same with Auburn-LSU and 20 other games i can name from the first 2 months). If this year's Boise team had been playing when LSU won the title, yes, I would have absolutely put them in the title game. But again, that is fiction - it has nothing to do with anything. Anything beyond an optional plus-one format (where it's used only when it is needed - like Auburn 2004) hurts the process, not helps it. And good luck constructing that sort of plus-one. College football is like watching the Wire. It takes awhile for it all to pay off, but it does.
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                • mmike032
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by The Seer
                  not really. Think about this. They played an Oklahoma team that blew their shot at a National Title (kinda like Utah/Bama). They beat a TCU team who was snubbed from the National Title game. They end up getting teams that aren't really motivated to be there and play them, yet, it is their Super Bowl. If they played in the title game it would be a totally different story. No way they could stop Bama's power running game in a title game. Bigger. stronger, faster athletes wouldn't get beat if motivated.
                  this
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                  • navyhawk
                    SBR High Roller
                    • 05-08-10
                    • 184

                    #79
                    cfb is a joke. We even had playoffs in middle school table tennis
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                    • NittanyLionsFan
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                      • 10-26-10
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by OmgUrMom
                      Big Ten sucks, i wouldn't put them a td dog vs any big ten team on neutral field.

                      People will also claim its a joke if they dont make it over a 1 loss team because they are Undefeated.

                      I don't really care either way, they need an 8 or 16 team playoff.
                      LOL @ People who want a playoff. Clueless fkn morons, thanks for trying to ruin college football but sorry it ain't gonna work buddy.
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                      • MrExacta
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                        • 09-16-07
                        • 662

                        #81
                        I like Boise to lose in the next 3 weeks,

                        MrExacta -`
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                        • TexansFan
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                          • 09-06-06
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                          #82
                          Originally posted by NittanyLionsFan
                          LOL @ People who want a playoff. Clueless fkn morons, thanks for trying to ruin college football but sorry it ain't gonna work buddy.
                          Please go into detail on how it would ruin college football. It seems to work out just fine for the other football divisions and every other sport in college as well.

                          What's a joke are the bowl games. They have so many that this year we'll have a .500 team or less get in.
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                          • RonPaul2008
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                            • 06-08-07
                            • 6741

                            #83
                            Originally posted by DIRTYDIRTY
                            boise will lose on the road in reno this year dont trip f*** boise weakest schedule in history LA TECH should have won last night
                            LA Tech should have won? What game were you watching?
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                            • sportfan
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                              • 12-22-09
                              • 10111

                              #84
                              Give me Boise +10 to any team in the top 5 , I'll put my entire bankroll on it
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                              • Donkwin47
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                                • 03-12-10
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                                #85
                                Originally posted by MrExacta
                                I like Boise to lose in the next 3 weeks,

                                MrExacta -`
                                God I wish I could bet you at least a grand with 100% chance of payment.
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                                • sportfan
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                                  • 12-22-09
                                  • 10111

                                  #86
                                  Originally posted by MrExacta
                                  I like Boise to lose in the next 3 weeks,

                                  MrExacta -`
                                  Boise is not gonna lose to Nevada bro , they will stay undefeated
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                                  • Pokerjoe
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                                    • 04-17-09
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                                    #87
                                    Originally posted by gryfyn1
                                    why the hell would any SEC schedule a quality team outside of conference -- the SEC plays an absolutely brutal conference schedule, they dont need to add another even decent team to that.

                                    **** that if your alabama you already have to play Arkansas, South Carolina, LSU, Miss St, Florida, LSU, plus a championship game -- they dont get to play patty cake with taxi squads alll year like Boise does.

                                    Screw that, Appalachian St is undefeated, and they have a game looming with Florida, is they beat Florida do they get to be in the BCS championship game?
                                    Boise plays weak teams because the strong ones are afraid of them. So why should Alabama play Boise? To get some respect. As it stands now, neither they nor any other D1 school gets to stake an honorable claim to the championship. Alabama was the best team last year, but didn't get to win a real title.

                                    There is no D1 national college football champion. None. Ever.

                                    It amazes me how many guys who claim to be heterosexual cry like babies at the very idea of settling the title on the field. They'd rather do it by voting, like figure skating does.
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                                    • stefan084
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                                      • 07-21-09
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                                      #88
                                      Originally posted by Pokerjoe
                                      Boise plays weak teams because the strong ones are afraid of them. So why should Alabama play Boise? To get some respect. As it stands now, neither they nor any other D1 school gets to stake an honorable claim to the championship. Alabama was the best team last year, but didn't get to win a real title.

                                      There is no D1 national college football champion. None. Ever.

                                      It amazes me how many guys who claim to be heterosexual cry like babies at the very idea of settling the title on the field. They'd rather do it by voting, like figure skating does.
                                      agreed--case in point 1994 Penn State undefeated gets snubbed by Nebraska (who by the way deserved the national title the year before) who would not have had a chance in hell to hang w/ PSU that year. PSU was forced to beat up on the high powered ducks squad instead. That whole scenario made me want to vomit in terror
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                                      • hawaii808
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                                        • 07-18-08
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                                        #89
                                        Originally posted by ouman101
                                        I think this is a point that everyone is overlooking. Can Boise State beat any team on any given week? Yes, they could probably beat 95% of the teams in Div. 1, but put them in any of the major conferences. Where they have to play legitimate competition every week, and they lose a few games every year.

                                        Lastly, please stop referring to Oregon State as a significant win. They are 3-3 with the 79th offense and the 117th ranked defense. Sounds like a real quality team to me.
                                        well said my friend!!!
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                                        • KKoz9
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                                          • 09-07-06
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                                          #90
                                          Originally posted by pavyracer
                                          Even if they go undefeated how can they surpass a 1 loss SEC, Big 12, Big Ten or Pac 10 team?

                                          This team will be 10 points dog vs any 1 loss team from these conferences. They are average.


                                          You couldn't possibly be more wrong. You could try, but you would not be successful.
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                                          • KKoz9
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                                            • 09-07-06
                                            • 1982

                                            #91
                                            Originally posted by Pokerjoe
                                            Boise plays weak teams because the strong ones are afraid of them. So why should Alabama play Boise? To get some respect. As it stands now, neither they nor any other D1 school gets to stake an honorable claim to the championship. Alabama was the best team last year, but didn't get to win a real title.

                                            There is no D1 national college football champion. None. Ever.

                                            It amazes me how many guys who claim to be heterosexual cry like babies at the very idea of settling the title on the field. They'd rather do it by voting, like figure skating does.

                                            Bravo!!


                                            ...and i am soooo tired of hearing about the SEC's "brutal" schedule, totally overrated. They have one or two really good teams like every other major conference.

                                            SEC apologists can SUCK IT!!
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                                            • KKoz9
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                                              • 09-07-06
                                              • 1982

                                              #92
                                              Originally posted by sportfan
                                              Give me Boise +10 to any team in the top 5 , I'll put my entire bankroll on it

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                                              • pavyracer
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                                                • 04-12-07
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                                                #93
                                                An undefeated Hawaii opened up as +10 vs the 4th best team in SEC (Georgia) the year LSU won its last national championship. Georgia destroyed them by 5 TD's. After the game the players of Hawaii had to be treated for multiple fractures for the ass beating they took.
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                                                • KKoz9
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                                                  • 09-07-06
                                                  • 1982

                                                  #94
                                                  Originally posted by pavyracer
                                                  An undefeated Hawaii opened up as +10 vs the 4th best team in SEC (Georgia) the year LSU won its last national championship. Georgia destroyed them by 5 TD's. After the game the players of Hawaii had to be treated for multiple fractures for the ass beating they took.


                                                  and your point is??

                                                  How is a 3 year ago Hawaii team relevant?

                                                  apples to oranges.
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                                                  • BiffTFinancial
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                                                    • 01-29-09
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                                                    #95
                                                    Originally posted by TexansFan

                                                    Please go into detail on how it would ruin college football. It seems to work out just fine for the other football divisions and every other sport in college as well.

                                                    What's a joke are the bowl games. They have so many that this year we'll have a .500 team or less get in.
                                                    we have playoffs. Wisky knocked Iowa out last weekend, and Auburn eliminated LSU. just because other sports have it doesn't mean CFB should adopt it. quick: name your favorite FCS playoff game. if you don't like it, don't watch. i don't care for the Tour de France but you don't hear me proposing to change it to make it more to my liking. what's more, as has been detailed over and over in the prior pages, any playoff beyond an optional plus-one serves the Ohio States and Bamas and Oklahomas of the world far more than Boise or TCU. no, no one wants to see Va Tech or Florida State or Iowa or West Virginia anywhere near the chase for the national title after their previous failures this season. they had their chances and blew them.

                                                    the bowl games are cool because 34 teams get to finish their seasons and careers with a win (and the other ones got a nice trip and a bag of goodies). if you know any college football players, ask them how much that means. a ton. and again, if you don't care about UCLA/Temple, don't watch. i will.
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                                                    • pavyracer
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                                                      • 04-12-07
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                                                      #96
                                                      Originally posted by KKoz9
                                                      and your point is??

                                                      How is a 3 year ago Hawaii team relevant?

                                                      apples to oranges.
                                                      Hawaii will become relevant in a few weeks when they beat Boise St.
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                                                      • The Seer
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                                                        • 10-29-07
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                                                        #97
                                                        Originally posted by KKoz9
                                                        Bravo!! ...and i am soooo tired of hearing about the SEC's "brutal" schedule, totally overrated. They have one or two really good teams like every other major conference. SEC apologists can SUCK IT!!
                                                        they are totally overrated, they've only won the last 4 national titles
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                                                        • CBASS
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                                                          • 01-22-10
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                                                          #98
                                                          Originally posted by Pokerjoe
                                                          Here's a list of all the SEC teams with the balls to schedule Boise:

                                                          2011: Ole Miss
                                                          2012: Georgia


                                                          Fixed it for you
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                                                          • KKoz9
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                                                            #99
                                                            Originally posted by The Seer
                                                            they are totally overrated, they've only won the last 4 national titles

                                                            Yes, you are correct, 4 BCS titles...like I said, two good teams like every other conference (and a two loss "champion").
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                                                            • Duff85
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                                                              #100
                                                              They can only beat who they play. If they go undefeated they deserve a shot at the title. The team has won 21 straight games, if they go undefeated it will be on the back of 26 consecutive wins - including 5 over ranked opponents (provided Nevada stays ranked). Your saying that team does not deserve a shot because the system currently entices no one of note to play them. Boise has a been a no win situation for the big teams - beat them you don't get credit, lose to them you go a long way down in the rankings. Hence no big team will play them unless they are forced to.

                                                              Boise haters have no idea. The Broncos are easily one of the best football teams in the country.
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                                                              • jagermeister1
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                                                                #101
                                                                Your logic is so fukkt up. By that rationale, Boise St is damned if they do, damned if they don't.

                                                                They're a good fuqqing team. Stop hating.
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                                                                • Cap dat 4ss
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                                                                  #102
                                                                  Boise deserves it like it or not. They've done everything asked of them over the last 5 years. Maybe if these big power house schools could step up and embarrass Boise when it matters this wouldn't be an issue but Boise St. has been handing their assess to them when given the chance (#8 OU in 2006, #3 TCU last year). If Boise goes undefeated this year, no team deserves it more than them.
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                                                                  • RonPaul2008
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                                                                    • 06-08-07
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                                                                    #103
                                                                    Boise State beat Oregon each of the last two years. If they are undefeated and Auburn or Oregon loses, they should be in the championship.

                                                                    Wonder what the total on Boise/Oregon would be? 100?
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                                                                    • Live4Saturday
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                                                                      • 09-29-10
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                                                                      #104
                                                                      Boise loses to Hawaii
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                                                                      • Justice
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                                                                        • 11-01-10
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                                                                        #105
                                                                        Boise State has proved that they are one of the top two teams for the second year in a row, they increased their strength of schedule by playing VT although VT dropped severely in the polls. Had VT not lost to JMU, Boise would be much more highly regarded. Boise State deserves to be in championship this year over any 1 loss team.
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