boise will lose on the road in reno this year dont trip f*** boise weakest schedule in history LA TECH should have won last night
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right. i have no desire to see a playoff (unless it's some sort of springing/optional plus-one to be used only when the final standings warrant it - eg, when Auburn finished the season undefeated), but beyond that, i never understand why the call for a playoff is made on behalf of the "little guy." if there were an 8- or 16-team playoff this season, who would most readily benefit? Bama, Ohio State and Oklahoma, who as of the moment are on the outside looking in, but if they finish the season with one loss, would certainly be in the top 16 and likely in the top 8.
as it stands now, unless Wisky or Sparty lose, Ohio State has zero chance at a BCS at-large bid. yet, supposedly, the BCS is some sort of conspiracy to aid traditional powers like OSU, Bama and Oklahoma. i'm an OSU fan, and i have no problem with their current place at the back of the line. they certainly earned it.Comment -
I agree stick this team in any of the BCS conferences and at best they are a .500 teamComment -
On what basis do you people think that Boise would not go over .500 in a major conference? I just keep looking at all these posts and laughing... I am not Boise apologist but the fact is...Boise passes the eye test... every time they get challenged by the so called big teams they answer those challenges... outside of 1 game in Athens, Georgia over 4 years ago Boise has been winning every important game...
The SEC is way down... The Big 10 is up but still nothing to be scared of... The ACC... heck Boise alread beat the best team in the ACC in their own state... The Big East? Is there really anyone that thinks Boise does not run through that sorry lot of teams?
They beat Oregon both times the last two seasons... same with Oregon State.. They can only beat who will play them and that is the real issue...Not Boise..Comment -
I still think Boise loses this year also in the regular season.
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I think they should swap out Colorado from the Big 12 and throw in Boise St. and try it for a yr. Colorado would still get worked in the MWC and Boise would get a way better challenge and probably get worked over a couple of times in the Big 12.sbrComment -
A yr in the Big 10 or Big 12 and I would put huge $$$ on the Broncs not having an undefeated season even though I am a Broncs fan.sbrComment -
I think Boise State is a very good team. Moore is a terrific quarterback. One of those guys who just looks like he knows he can score when necessary. And he has the arm, and the accuracy, and the quick throwing motion, and the receivers, and a good back behind him, to get it done. I'll take a look if they get points in a bowl game at the end of this season.
But, with that said, my hesitation is their defense. It's not overpowering at all. They could be exposed before the end of the season on that side of the ball.
I think there is a significant possibility that they could get upset before the end of November. Hawaii at home November 6, at Idaho six days later on November 12, then Fresno State at home on November 19, and then a tough trip to Nevada on November 26. That's not the SEC, but it's not an easy run either. I'll be looking at those lines, especially the Nevada line if BSU is still the rage when that game comes around.Comment -
I dont think any one is saying they go 4-4 if they play in the major conference, but they ain't going 8-0; if they have to play in the Big10 or Sec (even with it down) they may wind up 6-2.
And no one is touting the ACC or Big East, no one thinks Pitt or FSU should be there,
That's they rallying cry, 'they a can only beat who they play' ; but that's just not good enough, its a shame that that they are in this position, but the thats just the factsComment -
Yes, Boise State won, but you have to realize that the Oklahoma QB threw 2 or 3 picks with about 5 minutes left in the game, for them to even be in position to win and go into OT. If Oklahoma was half way intelligent and just ran the ball to run out the clock. Boise wouldn't have even had a chance to win. Oklahoma was up by like 3 td's midway through the 4th.Comment -
clarification: that was a neutral site in Landover, MD, not Lane Stadium in Blacksburg where VT enjoys one of the bigger home field advantages in the sport. no matter the percentage of VT fans - and i agree, there were far more VT fans than BSU fans - FedEx Field doesn't provide nearly the HFA. just ask the Redskins. it's like a lot of new stadiums that aren't nearly as loud as older NFL or college stadiums.
and the argument isn't that Boise can't beat a good team if they have 4-5 weeks to prepare. the argument is that they've never had to play 4 teams with a pulse in succession before. i'm not saying that they'd be lucky to go .500 in the SEC or another major conference, but there's no way they'd go through Bama's schedule without incurring at least 2-3 losses minimum. if Bama loses 2-3 times, they can forget the national title game. passing the eye test means very little. butting heads with good teams week after week and not experiencing a letdown means a ton. other than VT, Boise could play mediocre game and still beat almost any other team on their schedule. imagine running some of those trick plays from last night against a real live defense. that throwback pass to Moore looked like a high school team, the execution was so poor.Comment -
If a 1 loss team makes the championship over Boise St. the BCS is a joke.Comment -
Hawaii was fraudulent, and shouldn't even be in that BCS game verses Georgia. They have no creditability, there's a difference. That year, the only BCS team Hawaii beat was a 2 or 3 win Washington Huskies team at home thanks to a miracle comeback.
Boise is proven, by their two BCS wins, beating the currently number rank 1 Oregon last year, and already beaten two good BCS schools with V. Tech and Oregon State. Boise can hang with any of them BCS schools. Can't wait to see that happen
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You, my friend, must've been watching a different game...the largest lead and only lead OU had in regulation was 7 with just over a minute left in the game (35-28)...check the box.
Why do people just throw around comments with no basis just to make their argument look better?
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Boise State starts the season with 1.5 losses relative to teams in real conferences (so, excluding the ACC and Big East this year), and shouldn't be discussed until all of the varsity teams have 2 losses, period. Their move to the MWC seems to be a proper Darwinistic recognition of this fact. If Bama left the SEC for the Sun Belt and a certain undefeated record, they'd be forfeiting the same sort of credibility that Boise is seeking. Going undefeated by playing no one isn't nearly the accomplishment that it would be to go through Bama's schedule and win the SEC title with one loss.
That said, i'm beginning to warm to the idea of Boise playing in the title game to shut their whiny fans up once and for all, not to mention all the populist pandering arguments from Reilly, Wilbon, Brando and the like. Knock that JV program all the way back to I-AA, i say.Comment -
Agreed. I posted something like this last night.Comment -
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Boise is slow out the gate will hurt them in the long run.Comment -
So many front-runners who can't stand to be threatened by the little guy...what does this country have against people winning? This attitude of the rich get richer and the poor stay poor idea is ridiculous! If the cream of the crop rises to the top then just create a system that allows all the so called "frauds...i.e Boise?" to be weeded out through a playoff and then a real champion will be crowned and earned...say like ummm..College Basketball. No one ever bitches about the little guy winning because they have a system in place and they don't rely on a stupid system such as BCS. It's obvious a line in the sand has been drawn and each side will not even consider meeting anywhere near the line.
All these arguments are tired and really don't matter because the only thing that matters here is money...college football will only do what makes them money and right now that's what the BCS does...it's not about winning and losing, because if it was. Undefeated teams would always have a shot to win it all and we can clearly see they don't. If there was any other system that would allow more money to be made, they would switch to that in a heartbeat.
So stop focusing on who would win what where and by how much and just admit the money is all that matters and that's why no one want lil' ol' Boise State in the picture...They aren't making anyone in the BCS money and that's just bad for business.
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i'll just cut and paste from earlier:So many front-runners who can't stand to be threatened by the little guy...what does this country have against people winning? This attitude of the rich get richer and the poor stay poor idea is ridiculous! If the cream of the crop rises to the top then just create a system that allows all the so called "frauds...i.e Boise?" to be weeded out through a playoff and then a real champion will be crowned and earned...say like ummm..College Basketball. No one ever bitches about the little guy winning because they have a system in place and they don't rely on a stupid system such as BCS. It's obvious a line in the sand has been drawn and each side will not even consider meeting anywhere near the line. All these arguments are tired and really don't matter because the only thing that matters here is money...college football will only do what makes them money and right now that's what the BCS does...it's not about winning and losing, because if it was. Undefeated teams would always have a shot to win it all and we can clearly see they don't. If there was any other system that would allow more money to be made, they would switch to that in a heartbeat. So stop focusing on who would win what where and by how much and just admit the money is all that matters and that's why no one want lil' ol' Boise State in the picture...They aren't making anyone in the BCS money and that's just bad for business.
anyone demanding a playoff on behalf of Boise State should really re-think the logic of that position. they can absolutely beat anyone on any given day, but that can be said of many other teams, and none of them are likely to run a 3- or 4-game playoff gauntlet.
i have no desire to see a playoff (unless it's some sort of springing/optional plus-one to be used only when the final standings warrant it - eg, when Auburn finished the season undefeated), but beyond that, i never understand why the call for a playoff is made on behalf of the "little guy." if there were an 8- or 16-team playoff this season, who would most readily benefit? Bama, Ohio State and Oklahoma, who as of the moment are on the outside looking in, but if they finish the season with one loss, would certainly be in the top 16 and likely in the top 8.
as it stands now, unless Wisky or Sparty lose, Ohio State has zero chance at a BCS at-large bid. yet, supposedly, the BCS is some sort of conspiracy to aid traditional powers like OSU, Bama and Oklahoma. i'm an OSU fan, and i have no problem with their current place at the back of the line. they certainly earned it.
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- the BCS is a conspiracy - a conspiracy to put together a meaningful title game between two worthy combatants.
- you've never heard Chris Petersen or Gary Patterson champion a playoff. in fact, Patterson even said last year that a team like TCU has a better chance to win a national title under the current system than in a 3- or 4-week playoff. why? because that playoff would be the first time that either team has ever faced 3-4 consecutive teams with a pulse (well, maybe TCU a few decades ago). it would be like...playing a real schedule, something that neither school has proven it can do.
- if this is all about money, and keeping it away from non-BCS conferences, then why did TCU and Boise State both get at-large bids last year? the BCS pays for getting invited to a BCS bowl. i could be wrong, but i don't think that the BCS pay-out is higher for the winner of any bowl - it's the invitation that counts.Comment
