Warning From Bodog Employee

[soyouhateme]

Bodog Employee

Turns out that SOYOUHATEME is an disgruntled ex-Bodog employee that was fired for sexual harrasment.

It only that was true, funny how when you tell the truth about a company like Bodog people just love to come up with things - but this is a good story now, disgruntled ex-bodog employee fired for sexual harrasment, this is a beauty...I guess since your truth is out now, then Bodog is now a safe place to bet and keep your money, all the problems are gone, thank you so much

[jjgold]

Just sent another $600, going broke at this place

[NeedProtection]

This book is spending massive bucks advertising it's poker room through pro player sponsorships, TV shows, etc. As shady as their background is, I'd say these guys intend to stick around for the long haul.

[Jamie_UK]

This book is spending massive bucks advertising it's poker room through pro player sponsorships, TV shows, etc. As shady as their background is, I'd say these guys intend to stick around for the long haul.

I agree, only YANKS HAVE PROBLEMS, great book imo

[potsie]

I've always avoided Bodog. Not because I thought they were trying to rip players off intentionally, but because their lines and odds are ALWAYS among the worst! When every other book is paying +100, Bodog is paying -110 and .5 point higher. The increased price is not always realized on the underdog's side either.

As far as the NSF check issue, perhaps they (Bodog) signed on with a processor that cannot handle the volume required. There are allot of books making hasty deals with processors that are not ready to handle the task.

[Utah]

I've always avoided Bodog. Not because I thought they were trying to rip players off intentionally, but because their lines and odds are ALWAYS among the worst! When every other book is paying +100, Bodog is paying -110 and .5 point higher. The increased price is not always realized on the underdog's side either

That is simply not true. They have lines every single day that are better than Pinny or anyone else. Today, I placed 2 small action bets on my Twins on the points and the ML. Bodog was 2c better than pinny on both. Oh, and Tori Hunter just climbed the wall and reached out of the park to steal a home run. Awesome play.

[Utah]

Also. Bodog's customer service is awesome and responds quickly. Additionally, I a play a lot of the "free money" small props at Bodog and they are just fantastic to deal with as they have always ruled in my favor when there is ambiguity in the wording. At least 3 times I felt they legitimately had a case not to rule in my favor and every time they paid me off. Note - anyone who doesn't take advantage of these props is giving up thousands of free money a year.

I just love playing at Bodog when I can find the right odds. I know that I don't have much credibility here since I only have a few posts but I do have over 4,500 posts on one of the other gambling forums under the same name.

[DrunkenLullaby]

Note - anyone who doesn't take advantage of these props is giving up thousands of free money a year.

Now why would you want to go and post this? Do you WANT competition on these things, or are you just so philanthropic as to want to share the wealth?

[Utah]

Now why would you want to go and post this? Do you WANT competition on these things, or are you just so philanthropic as to want to share the wealth?

I don't mind pointing out things like this because it is still a very small portion of income for me and I haven't even come close to sharing enough to compensate for posters who helped me when I started sports betting. Plus, Bodog doesn't change the line fast enough to really hurt anyone playing them. Heck there is very high value one right now on the NO on the "Sales Tax Fairness and Simplification Act" prop and it has been there for days at that line even though I know many people who have hit the NO.

Also, there is so much dang negativity in the sports betting world that I like to post positive things when there are positive things to point out. The sports bettors themselves may be their own worst enemy with their negativity and making the collapse of strong books a self fulfilling prophecy.

[ColdEyeMe]

Also, there is so much dang negativity in the sports betting world that I like to post positive things when there are positive things to point out. The sports bettors themselves may be their own worst enemy with their negativity and making the collapse of strong books a self fulfilling prophecy.

Yeah, that dang negativity. It's such a goldarn bummer. (Can I say "bummer"?)

[LargeMouthBass]

Also. Bodog's customer service is awesome and responds quickly. Additionally, I a play a lot of the "free money" small props at Bodog and they are just fantastic to deal with as they have always ruled in my favor when there is ambiguity in the wording. At least 3 times I felt they legitimately had a case not to rule in my favor and every time they paid me off. Note - anyone who doesn't take advantage of these props is giving up thousands of free money a year.

I just love playing at Bodog when I can find the right odds. I know that I don't have much credibility here since I only have a few posts but I do have over 4,500 posts on one of the other gambling forums under the same name.

So how long have you been working for Bodog? When things don't sound natural, it just sounds phony.

[Utah]

So how long have you been working for Bodog? When things don't sound natural, it just sounds phony.

It is really smart of people like you to bash anything anyone says positive about a book. It is like you want the books to fail to fulfill your internal sense of dread. The sad irony is that the huge overwhelming negativity on this forum hurts rather than helps sports bettors. I can imagine those wanting to start sports betting coming to this forum to do a little research and coming away thinking, "whoa. There is no way in hell I am getting involved in this."

[jjgold]

I requested payout yesterday, I bet I should have in 10 days.

[soyouhateme]

You are such a loser

I requested payout yesterday, I bet I should have in 10 days.

When you are done getting your head out of Calvin's ass, then, and may be then, anyone will listen to you...UNDERSTAND ONE THING...Bodog claims to be ahead of the pack, they claimed to be above everyone else, cutting edge; but, how is waiting for a payment for 3 months, NSF checks, e-checks that take forever to clear, using xxxxxx to process ** knowing that they are already known to the police, I guess that's really ahead of the pack...I said it before, if Bodog really wants to be above everyone else, then pay your clients in time by using bankwire, plain and simple.

[soyouhateme]

Bodog Employee

It is really smart of people like you to bash anything anyone says positive about a book. It is like you want the books to fail to fulfill your internal sense of dread. The sad irony is that the huge overwhelming negativity on this forum hurts rather than helps sports bettors. I can imagine those wanting to start sports betting coming to this forum to do a little research and coming away thinking, "whoa. There is no way in hell I am getting involved in this."

There is nothing wrong with Bodog Customer Service, it's not our fault that the people running the company don't care about their clients, you think Calvin really cares if a customer gets a payment on time? you think anyone at Bodog is concerned that some guy just had his bank account closed and it's accused of fraud by their bank? the CSR's working at TripleCrown are just doing their jobs and feeding clients the crap that we are told to say.

[katstale]

It is really smart of people like you to bash anything anyone says positive about a book. It is like you want the books to fail to fulfill your internal sense of dread. The sad irony is that the huge overwhelming negativity on this forum hurts rather than helps sports bettors. I can imagine those wanting to start sports betting coming to this forum to do a little research and coming away thinking, "whoa. There is no way in hell I am getting involved in this."

Utah is who he says he is. Some of you morons on here can't even evaluate a gift horse when you see it. Many people at the "other forum" made thousands last year from Bodog props. I made 5 figures from these alone. True, I am on the "sharps" line and I don't see many sports betting opportunities, but that doesn't mean there is not value at Bodog. In addition, the props are usually not up for long--but for those of us who make our living at this--it doesn't take long to check them every day.


As for Calvin's pedigree....... I think someone else put it best, you are not gonna find Phi Beta Kappa boy scouts running sportsbooks. You just have to choose degrees of blood suckers.

[LargeMouthBass]

It is really smart of people like you to bash anything anyone says positive about a book. It is like you want the books to fail to fulfill your internal sense of dread. The sad irony is that the huge overwhelming negativity on this forum hurts rather than helps sports bettors. I can imagine those wanting to start sports betting coming to this forum to do a little research and coming away thinking, "whoa. There is no way in hell I am getting involved in this."

Hey I learned my lesson with BetUS, I am just warning people of slow paying books. Do you know how some of these people feel, when they have to wait months to get their money? If you are from the other sites, you should know there are lots of complaints about Bodog so STFU.

[LargeMouthBass]

Utah is who he says he is. Some of you morons on here can't even evaluate a gift horse when you see it. Many people at the "other forum" made thousands last year from Bodog props. I made 5 figures from these alone. True, I am on the "sharps" line and I don't see many sports betting opportunities, but that doesn't mean there is not value at Bodog. In addition, the props are usually not up for long--but for those of us who make our living at this--it doesn't take long to check them every day.


As for Calvin's pedigree....... I think someone else put it best, you are not gonna find Phi Beta Kappa boy scouts running sportsbooks. You just have to choose degrees of blood suckers.

I don't do props so I don't have to evaluate anything. Besides, if you make prop bets, it's better to have less people betting on them so you can get better odds. So no need to advertise it like you are some 14 yo insecure girl with braces that is lacking attention.

[BuddyBear]

I believe what soyouhateme is saying 100%.....I made a deposited maybe 5 or 6 weeks ago via e-checks and it still hasn't cleared. They finally made me fax my bank statement showing it cleared on my end. Sent it today so we'll see what happens.

But clearly anyone with a pulse in the online gaming industry knows that Bodog should be avoided right now.

[Bill Dozer]

I believe what soyouhateme is saying 100%.....I made a deposited maybe 5 or 6 weeks ago via e-checks and it still hasn't cleared. They finally made me fax my bank statement showing it cleared on my end. Sent it today so we'll see what happens.

But clearly anyone with a pulse in the online gaming industry knows that Bodog should be avoided right now.

They haven't let you request a payout because they can't verify the eCheck cleared?

[DrunkenLullaby]

Besides, if you make prop bets, it's better to have less people betting on them so you can get better odds. So no need to advertise it like you are some 14 yo insecure girl with braces that is lacking attention.

[BuddyBear]

They haven't let you request a payout because they can't verify the eCheck cleared?

well i requested the payout and it is set for processing. They did let me request a payout that was no problem but they said they can't process it until it clears and that is the issue.

So yesterday i just faxed them my statement and i got an email today saying they were going to process it. But it will take up to 10 business days.

I would say right now, until things get back to normal at Bodog I would avoid them but in all honesty I am not worried about getting paid by them...i know i will but just frustrating to jump through all these hoops. It will kind of feeling like getting a security deposit back when you rent since it has been so long.

[sammyb]

What a load of shit

If bodog were having problems then why would my neteller withdrawal only take 45 minutes to get to me

you guys a wankers

[Bill Dozer]

well i requested the payout and it is set for processing. They did let me request a payout that was no problem but they said they can't process it until it clears and that is the issue.

So yesterday i just faxed them my statement and i got an email today saying they were going to process it. But it will take up to 10 business days.

I would say right now, until things get back to normal at Bodog I would avoid them but in all honesty I am not worried about getting paid by them...i know i will but just frustrating to jump through all these hoops. It will kind of feeling like getting a security deposit back when you rent since it has been so long.

Good feedback and advice. After talking to mgt. today it sounds like these recent problems are on the decline but the Bodog website is still asking for 4 weeks for checks and one for **.

Let's put them on the clock for this payout.

[shake zula]

I have 4 payouts from bodog that have been approved and I am waiting on the checks. The payouts where requested at different times last week and I should apparently have them within 20 business days. I will keep those interested updated.

I've been reading the threads and am nervous as shit about getting my money so any info that becomes available, I'm interested in hearing it.

[Sportsman]

Expect it

Well thats whats expected, companies like bodog and betus are fighting to stay alive. They need our support!!!

[shake zula]

Well thats whats expected, companies like bodog and betus are fighting to stay alive. They need our support!!!

I want bodog to survive so I won't bash them until I don't get my money by the time they have set. They have been nothing but honest for the last 5 years w/ me and have always been willing to answer my questions.

[NeedProtection]

Hey Michael Cash

Michael Cash - do you realize how much credibility you lose when you claim that Bodog has 5000-10,000 w/d requests per day?

I realize that without BOS that Bodog and Sportsbook.com are close in size with Bodog maybe even bigger with the great success of their poker room, but your claims show ignorance or that you believed some lie that some Bodog employee told you once or something.

You do realize that during the height of football season, Bodog might not have more than 15k people bet on a saturday or sunday. How in the hell can they have 5-10k w/d requests per day, during baseball season?

Another thing to point out is that Pokerstars is by far the biggest gaming site on the net. They are able to payout without these problems. I am sure the banking side of things are a real bitch right now, and there is great incentive in leaving the payouts pending in hopes the player blows the money.

Bodog has been slow to rollout e-money replacements. They could do it on a limited basis with their most active players, or create their own.

I am curious as to where the e-wallet replacement is. I understand the Europeans are pussies and can't wait to surrender and whatnot but you would think some smart, enterprising people would realize that was long as they never want to come to the United States, and specifically stay away from sports betting, they could make a fortune without much in the way of law enforcement heat.

The people that run some of those torrent sites like Piratebay, or some of the big international spamming groups are great candidates. The spammers have clearly figured out the banking and credit card processing side of things, albeit no one will ever be able to handle the volume Neteller was.

Looking back on Neteller, it was insane it lasted as long as it did if you think about it.

[boredtodeath]

Bodog Delays

In reply to Sammyb

If bodog were having problems then why would my neteller withdrawal only take 45 minutes to get to me

My click2pay withdrawal was always credited within an hour, that is because they are paying to an e-wallet. They don't need an outside processor for those payments. The outside processor is needed because the casino itself can not issue checks, or transfer to u.s. bank, those can not indicate it was from a casino.

I am waiting for a check by courier. I didn't even ask for a payout. I emailed to ask what my payment options were as I had deposited via click2pay but did not want my payment sent that method. Told them I would wait to initiate the withdrawal until I received their response.

Next thing I know I get an email for payouts telling me my payout was approved. I quickly contacted them and was told it was being sent via check.

I never initiated the withdrawal through the software or selected the method.

They refused to change it to western union because it was already sent for payment via check.

They said I would recieve check via fed ex in 10-15 days.

Now I am told they can't tell me when I will receive it and I can not find out if the check has been issued yet. Today is 14 days.

There is absolutely no reason they can not find out if it has been issued or when it is likely to be. If they can not send it fedex within the 15 days then at that point it should be sent ** or wire transfer.

I didn't even get the chance to select WUnion. Per the email below they admit that I never requested a payout. But still refuse to change it to **.
THAT IS JUST NOT RIGHT!!!! I know that if they mistakenly issue a payout to the processor they would find away to cancel it! Since it has yet to be issued it isn't very hard to request payment via another method.

Customer Service <service@bodog.com>
Reply-To : service@bodog.com
Sent : Monday, June 4, 2007 6:13 AM
To :
Subject : [] Payout Inquiry


Dear ,

Thank you for your continuing correspondence. We do understand your frustration
with the situation
and we do apologize that there was some confusion with your payout. We can see
that at the time that
your payout was requested, it does appear you were inquiring about the payout
options rather than
requesting a payout.

We understand that the recent payouts
that were processed via
check are taking a lot longer than we initially anticipated and that it can be
very frustrating for
our clients; however, our processor is limited to the number of transactions
that they can process
each day.

Since they have received many more payouts requests than they are able to
process each day, it created
a bit of a backlog for them. We are trying to get this backlog cleared up as
quickly as we possible
can so that our clients can receive their payouts; however, it will take some
time.

Bodog and other casinos seem to think that after they send the transaction to the 3rd party processor they have no further responsibilty. They need to be in constant communication with them. They should be involved until the time the transaction is complete, instead of blaming it on the processor, "we can not get an exact time frame from the processor" blah blah blah. The processor is working for them, they aren't a seperate entity that takes over full responsibility for the payment. If they were, we should be provided their name and number so we can follow-up on getting paid.

I have been in management for 27 years and deal with accounts P&R.

They can estimate how long it will take to process these transactions. They should know how long it will take to reduce the pending transactions to a level that will allow withdrawals to be processed within 3-7 days, etc.

you take the number of pending transactions and divide it by number that can be processed per day that equals number of days to process all of transactions. So if they have 300 transactions to process before yours and can process on an average 100 per day , yours should be processed on the 4th day.(it is more complex but that is the basic principle) Obviously with an accounts payable program this is a breeze. Also, the casino should be getting real time updates as transactions are processed by these 3rd parties.

Of course it requires them to actually know how many transactions are pending and how many are being processed each day. From the emails I have received, I doubt they have a clue.

[SBR_John]

The short of this thread for me is;
A) Bodog is still having processing issues.

B) There are some real players that continue to report good cs, good lines and fast payouts.

C) There are some that have personal agendas with Bodogs owner. These are not real players and have never written to us to look into a delayed payout or even ever had a Bodog account.

Guys, we try to moderate as little as possible. I hope real players looking to share their expierences and can tell the difference.

[shake zula]

The short of this thread for me is;
A) Bodog is still having processing issues.

B) There are some real players that continue to report good cs, good lines and fast payouts.

C) There are some that have personal agendas with Bodogs owner. These are not real players and have never written to us to look into a delayed payout or even ever had a Bodog account.

Guys, we try to moderate as little as possible. I hope real players looking to share their expierences and can tell the difference.

SBR John, so do you think those of us who use bodog should be concerned about our pending payouts?

[SBR_John]

SBR John, so do you think those of us who use bodog should be concerned about our pending payouts?

Not in the sense of will you get paid. You will certainly be paid.

Bill briefed us today on Bodog. According to Bill they are making progress. They have changed their website to indicate payouts could take 30 days as well, so I'm told. We are in daily contact with them. They know we are all very frustrated and claim to be actively trying to resolve the issues.

Those waiting for payouts that are not delievered as promised will of course worry. But the information we have is they will overcome the processing issues in the next 30 days.

[shake zula]

Not in the sense of will you get paid. You will certainly be paid.

Bill briefed us today on Bodog. According to Bill they are making progress. They have changed their website to indicate payouts could take 30 days as well, so I'm told. We are in daily contact with them. They know we are all very frustrated and claim to be actively trying to resolve the issues.

Those waiting for payouts that are not delievered as promised will of course worry. But the information we have is they will overcome the processing issues in the next 30 days.

Who is this John you speak of?

Also are coldeyeme and soyouhateme real players?

I'm new to this forum and just trying to understand the situation.

[SBR_John]

I think they could be one in the same. This coldeyeme fellow has some ancient family dispute over custody, divorce and other drama with the Bodogs owner. His mission is to pay back the Bodog owner who won the custody legal battle apparently. No other.

I dont have a problem with him crusading here. The problem is he acts like he knows something about Bodog and payouts when he doesnt. He is welcome to inform us and share his stories. But its deceptive when he does it pretending to be a player.

[boredtodeath]

&quot;they Are Making Progress&quot;

When I began having payment issues I searched posts on bodog across all forums. I discovered that they have been claiming to be making progress for months. You can read the old posts on this site for that matter.

Also, right after they initiated my payout I began seeing more posts regarding lengthy delays, so I emailed regarding this.

They responded that with the new processor they expected the processing time to be reduced and that players were reporting recieving their checks sooner than the posted time of 15 days. 2 weeks later it is 30 days.

We clearly don't know what is fact and what is fiction. Whether the poster is an employee or not doesn't matter. He was informative and everything he said regarding the customer service locations, processing companies, etc checks out. You can believe him or Bodog. Or neither. There is nothing we can do but inform other players of our experience.We are at their mercy

I am sure we will be paid. But, personally, I don't want to wait to be paid weeks on end. They got my money immediately, I expect to paid whats owed me no longer than 10 days from payout request.

Those that don't mind the wait, go for it!