Warning From Bodog Employee

[soyouhateme]

I'm an employee of Bodog, our customer service is located in Vancouver, Canada, TripleCrown is the name of the company that does the customer service and process payments via Western Union, you know, xxxxxxx, using a company named xxxxx...I had enough of Bodog, customers are not getting pay, we have thousands of client that have not gotten pay in over two months and we have hundreds of clients that are getting checks but they go NSF, ...be smart, don't play at Bodog...if you used your bank account to make deposits, your deposits will be pending forever, which means you cannot get a payout while you have pending deposits - why is that, because Bodog is not getting pay by these processors which are collecting the money, which is your money...if you are not getting pay then contact the company behind Bodog in Vancouver, here is their website www.triplecrowncs.com at 604-639-3423 - don't believe me, check out their website...for those lucky clients lucky enough to get pay, your check by mail takes about 8 weeks and keep in mind, that xxxxxxxxxxx, xxxxxxxx, etc, may give you a check that will go NSF...we have clients that have had their banks accounts closed and accused of fraud by their banks because they deposited their checks from Bodog only to find out later that they go NSF, people are getting in trouble with their banks because of Bodog.
Furthermore, Western Union is fine, but keep in mind that the company they use to process those payments is xxxxxxx, the people running xxxxxxx were arrested last week in Utah, so if you feel safe using Western Union knowing that the police are on to them, then go ahead, don't forget that you are using your real name to pick up those funds

[chano]

Where and what department did you work for?

[soyouhateme]

Bodog Employee

Customer Service, the Operations Manager is Marco [edit of last names] and I cannot tell you my position exactly since I still work there...
Triple Crown Customer Service
West Lobby, 4th Floor
Burnaby, BC V6Z 2H3

[freebie]

and why are you telling us all this stuff? What do you benefit from whistle blowing other than to help the players?

[707782]

just fly by...

[sammyb]

you suck mate

Stop spreading crap and get a life

No one believes you

[sammyb]

SHUSWAPPER take your Bodog bashing someplace else please

[Dumb_lucK]

Hrm, here I thought only disgrunted ex-employee's trashed their books or attempted to blow the whistle..

It's a catchy trend, wonder which book is next..?

[jjgold]

BoDog is strong as ever

these posts are laughable

[bookie]

I don't get the response to this guy. It's no secret that Bodog has had payment issues like everyone else. Here are some concrete details about the situation. Of course like all net information it should be taken with a dose of skepticism, but soyouhateme has provided information that can be checked out and considered a possible piece of the offshore puzzle.

[soyouhateme]

Bodog Employee

and why are you telling us all this stuff? What do you benefit from whistle blowing other than to help the players?

Because as an honest person, it is very wrong for Bodog to turn their backs on people that are having their bank accounts closed and accused of fraud by their banks, imagine getting a check for five thousand and spending the money and having your bank call you back telling you that now you are owing that money and you calling Bodog and we tell you that we will send you another check, that is very wrong.

[raiders72002]

Hrm, here I thought only disgrunted ex-employee's trashed their books or attempted to blow the whistle..

[BigBollocks]

There's nothing he's saying in his post that isn't true. No matter what his status his facts are pretty damn accurate. Why many in this forum blindly support BoDog and their recent actions and day-to-day operations is beyond me. Calvin Ayre is a known con-artist, and once you've proven to **** people once that's it for me.

I do, however, wish the IPs were checked and matched up for credibility's sake in this thread (hint hint John, Billy D, et. all)....

[Sayner Express]

Not to spread fear but part of what he's saying is true. Deposited funds via elec check on 4/29 was supposed to have cleared 5/14 then changed to 5/21 and still has not cleared. Where there is smoke there's fire?
The new law passed by congress really seems to have thrown a monkey wrench into the works. Then add in Calvins reputation. Now I'm wondering if I made a mistake leaving Sportsbook. Jumped from the frying pan into the fire.

[soyouhateme]

you suck mate

Stop spreading crap and get a life

No one believes you

the following article was published in the Vancouver Sun, one of the biggest newspapers in Canada, it's back from January but you can sense that something is not right at Bodog

http://www.majorwager.com/forums/mess-hall/142981-vancouver-sun-u-s-authorities-nipping-bodogs-heels.html

[GamblingPrincessXOXO]

The validity of soyouhateme's claims can be debated - although there does seem to be a sense of truth to them. But I don't see how posters in this forum can knock him from coming in here unless they are bodog shills themseleves.

We should be encouraging employees to come on here and give us a glimpse of the inside operation. Their opinions to me are way more valuable then the speculative garbage that gets tossed around here 99% of the time

[Bill Dozer]

Knowing that SportsbookReview has a good representative sample of player feedback (and the SBRforum as well, see Sportsbook.com thread), I can say this post is not factual and likely motivated by something other than helping players. Listing the company names isn't relevant to any player situation and the author probably thinks it can hurt Bodog.

We currently have one email in the main SBR inbox from a Bodog player still waiting for payment and he is inside of 2 months. In comparison, we get multiple Sportsbook.com emails daily.

When a processor is forced to switch banks before live checks have cleared, they can bounce. We have seen this since post-Neteller and it usually affects one batch of checks. It is not as if all checks from one processor are hit or miss.

eChecks have always had to clear before the book can pay so players don't cancel their check. Now that Bodog has a much different eCheck, which isn't really eCheck at all, they have to physically get the checks to the bank.

Should any of this be acceptable? No. Players should be compensated when inconvenienced and all fees should be paid. If they can't cash an eCheck in two business weeks they shouldn't offer it or list the clear time on the site. Bodog is certainly not at the level it should be or the level is has been for the previous years but posts like this make it harder to keep it in perspective.

[gotsteam]

Knowing that SportsbookReview has a good representative sample of player feedback (and the SBRforum as well, see Sportsbook.com thread), I can say this post is not factual and likely motivated by something other than helping players. Listing the company names isn't relevant to any player situation and the author probably thinks it can hurt Bodog.

We currently have one email in the main SBR inbox from a Bodog player still waiting for payment and he is inside of 2 months. In comparison, we get multiple Sportsbook.com emails daily.

When a processor is forced to switch banks before live checks have cleared, they can bounce. We have seen this since post-Neteller and it usually affects one batch of checks. It is not as if all checks from one processor are hit or miss.

eChecks have always had to clear before the book can pay so players don't cancel their check. Now that Bodog has a much different eCheck, which isn't really eCheck at all, they have to physically get the checks to the bank.

Should any of this be acceptable? No. Players should be compensated when inconvenienced and all fees should be paid. If they can't cash an eCheck in two business weeks they shouldn't offer it or list the clear time on the site. Bodog is certainly not at the level it should be or the level is has been for the previous years but posts like this make it harder to keep it in perspective.

Payment delays of close to 2 months are "A" book material here at SBR?

Can't speak for others, but trikes me a little odd.

[DrunkenLullaby]

Bill, with that being said, might it be a good idea to edit the processor names & locales out of his post, leaving the rest of it in tact because he is certainly entitled to his opinion?

[KC]

why play there? they are the last to post lines...afraid of getting pounded by sharps and now they pay slow..

[Senator7]

why play there? they are the last to post lines...afraid of getting pounded by sharps and now they pay slow..

Agree 100%.

The only thing Bodog has ever been good for is a few decent underdog lines every now and then...

[Bill Dozer]

Payment delays of close to 2 months are "A" book material here at SBR?

Can't speak for others, but trikes me a little odd.

That is a good trick you keep using GS. You like to quote posts and than ask a question as if the person said that. Let me try...

Originally Posted by gotsteam
Payment delays of close to 2 months are "A" book material here at SBR?

Can't speak for others, but trikes me a little odd.

So why do you work for a scam sportsbook if you have trouble sleeping?

Bill, with that being said, might it be a good idea to edit the processor names & locales out of his post, leaving the rest of it in tact because he is certainly entitled to his opinion?

The processor names, some of which I don't think are in use, are pretty much public information.

[soyouhateme]

Knowing that SportsbookReview has a good representative sample of player feedback (and the SBRforum as well, see Sportsbook.com thread), I can say this post is not factual and likely motivated by something other than helping players. Listing the company names isn't relevant to any player situation and the author probably thinks it can hurt Bodog.

We currently have one email in the main SBR inbox from a Bodog player still waiting for payment and he is inside of 2 months. In comparison, we get multiple Sportsbook.com emails daily.

When a processor is forced to switch banks before live checks have cleared, they can bounce. We have seen this since post-Neteller and it usually affects one batch of checks. It is not as if all checks from one processor are hit or miss.

eChecks have always had to clear before the book can pay so players don't cancel their check. Now that Bodog has a much different eCheck, which isn't really eCheck at all, they have to physically get the checks to the bank.

Should any of this be acceptable? No. Players should be compensated when inconvenienced and all fees should be paid. If they can't cash an eCheck in two business weeks they shouldn't offer it or list the clear time on the site. Bodog is certainly not at the level it should be or the level is has been for the previous years but posts like this make it harder to keep it in perspective.

This is not about hurting Bodog, it's about given players that need to get pay another option, calling TripleCrown will put pressure on them to do something about the currect payout situation...to say that you have one email from one client is very much not true, I talk to a least one hundred clients per day, with 95% of the calls dealing with late payouts, NSF checks, and clients wanting to cash out but unable to do so since their e-checks are still pending. Just this week I talked to a client that got a check for 25 grand and the check went NSF, don't put the blame on the processors, some clients get replacements checks but they also go NSF, the correct thing would be to give the clients that get these NSF checks their money via Bank Wire, sure it is expensive for Bodog but when players depend on their money to pay their bills, then right is right, telling a customer that just got a NSF check that we will be mailing another check is very wrong.

[soyouhateme]

That is a good trick you keep using GS. You like to quote posts and than ask a question as if the person said that. Let me try...


So why do you work for a scam sportsbook if you have trouble sleeping?



The processor names, some of which I don't think are in use, are pretty much public information.

Because it pays the bills, I get pay $30 grand per year whcih is not great at all but for a student, it more than ifne...people that question my facts, go open an account, send some money using Western Union and then request a payout via Check by Mail, then let me know when you get your check at the end of July...sure you can request Western Union but you what, with xxxxxxx feeling the heat, do you really want your name in their database?

[gotsteam]

That is a good trick you keep using GS. You like to quote posts and than ask a question as if the person said that. Let me try...


So why do you work for a scam sportsbook if you have trouble sleeping?



The processor names, some of which I don't think are in use, are pretty much public information.

Bill, you really are a PUNK

Bottom line is, Bodog is in full blown slow pay mode, yet they remain an "A" here.

That is a direct result of payments made for "advertising" ( read HUSH MONEY )

For the record I do not work for a sportsbook, -scam type ( such as your "A" rated books ) or otherwise.

And I sleep just fine at night as I don't continue directing players to a book that is not paying, or takes 2 months to pay, and is considered an "A"

The real question, is, how do you sleep

[TLD]

The “agenda” sirens should be going off like crazy in this thread.

“Soyouhateme” is presumably a ghost for the Bozo whose sister lost a custody battle to Calvin Ayre twenty years ago, or whatever the hell got him started on his vendetta.

“Gotsteam” may well work for the same piece of crap sportsbook “Chano” works for (if he’s not his ghost) that apparently SBR criticized some time somewhere, so in retaliation we’ll forever be bombarded with their “advertiser bias” posts.

The only thing this thread lacks is the noxious RaidersShill bitterly taking his cheap shots at SBR.

[soyouhateme]

The “agenda” sirens should be going off like crazy in this thread.

“Soyouhateme” is presumably a ghost for the Bozo whose sister lost a custody battle to Calvin Ayre twenty years ago, or whatever the hell got him started on his vendetta.

“Gotsteam” may well work for the same piece of crap sportsbook “Chano” works for (if he’s not his ghost) that apparently SBR criticized some time somewhere, so in retaliation we’ll forever be bombarded with their “advertiser bias” posts.

The only thing this thread lacks is the noxious RaidersShill bitterly taking his cheap shots at SBR.

Do you even have an account at Bodog? I have a feeling that you don't - I don't just talk the talk but I have provide facts...I have no vendetta against Bodog, all that I'm saying is that if you are going to put your money there, then do it at your own risk.

[gotsteam]

The “agenda” sirens should be going off like crazy in this thread.

“Soyouhateme” is presumably a ghost for the Bozo whose sister lost a custody battle to Calvin Ayre twenty years ago, or whatever the hell got him started on his vendetta.

“Gotsteam” may well work for the same piece of crap sportsbook “Chano” works for (if he’s not his ghost) that apparently SBR criticized some time somewhere, so in retaliation we’ll forever be bombarded with their “advertiser bias” posts.

The only thing this thread lacks is the noxious RaidersShill bitterly taking his cheap shots at SBR.

For the record I have no agenda or vendetta against Bodog or any other book.

My point is a simple one

We see report after report of close to 2 months and no payment or a bounced check.

Bodog is a sponsor / advertiser here so surprise surprise, their A rating remains.

2 months slow paying warrants a D series rating

you have books here rated in the d and c range without such complaints.

[Dark Horse]

Soyouhateme, if I may ask, are you a Canadian studying in Canada?

[soyouhateme]

Soyouhateme, if I may ask, are you a Canadian studying in Canada?

I'm very much a Canadian and I go to school BCIT, not sure why the question but that's my honest answer

[WWTSblows]

Are payments by neteller still getting processed?

[TLD]

Do you even have an account at Bodog? I have a feeling that you don't - I don't just talk the talk but I have provide facts...I have no vendetta against Bodog, all that I'm saying is that if you are going to put your money there, then do it at your own risk.

You have provide facts? Well, heck, why didn’t you say so? That puts everything in a new light. Do carry on then.

Presumptuous as it may be for me to offer you assistance in your non-vendetta, I’ve thought of a few future thread ideas for you:

I’m a Bodog customer and the FBI just showed up at my door accusing me of helping Calvin Ayre launder money…

I just read an amazing eye-opening article about Calvin Ayre’s involvement in a white slavery ring using underage Filipinas to send illegal Western Union wires…

I’m Calvin Ayre’s maid, and you wouldn’t believe all the kiddie porn I have to shred every week…

I’m Calvin Ayre’s proctologist and, well, I’ll let you come up with the rest.

[Michael_Cash]

I call bullshit.

You are absolutely not an employee, current or former of Bodog. You think because you know a managers name that is some sort of proof? Nice try.

Bodog is not paying any slower than any other book of their size right now and that is a FACT. You say people aren't getting paid, where is the proof? There is a difference between not getting paid and having a payment take longer then you would like.

You have absolutely nothing to back up any of these claims and I guarantee you that every single person you could present to me who has had a problem with a cashout at Bodog I could present you 5 players who have cashed out with no problem at all and in a timely manner.

If I had to guess I would say that you are either Calvin Ayre's personal stalker Paddy Roberts or an associate of Calvin Ayre's stalker Paddy Roberts.

Lastly, I can show you at least 3 other books that are paying 2-4 weeks slower than Bodog.

Your "facts" are in fact, LIES.

[DrunkenLullaby]

I call bullshit.

Bodog is not paying any slower than any other book of their size right now and that is a FACT.

I call bullshit.

Oly & BetJam are still paying within a 2 business day timeframe, and that is a FACT. Spiro seems to be the only guy who didn't have his head lodged firmly up his ass when the UIGEA was being threatened. He had a plan, and it has worked whilst all others have had problems & problems aplenty.

[BigBollocks]

That's the only problem I have with this forum. Michael Cash only has four posts, and all of them pertain to boosting up BoDog. He's been booted all over the internet for shilling, but here we go all over again.

If anyone thinks that what Bodog is doing currently is OK for an "A" book then I simply beg to differ....