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  • KVB
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 05-29-14
    • 74817

    #526
    Originally posted by KVB
    ...We remain fully funded with a positive season outlook and a short term sideways to downward market...
    Since that post we ran up a little more to that highest resistance line before meeting the resistance and heading sideways now. Our hope is to escape to the All Star break without any major volatile moves, especially downward. We have been stepping upward, as I mentioned would be healthy before, but we are still on a pretty steep climb.

    Some of us are predicting a -4 unit loss here before the All Star break, and some think we'll lose it and get it back by then. I think we'll lose it and not get it back by then.

    Here's the recent summary...

    Originally posted by KVB
    Here's the KVB MLB Contrarian Fund after 205 plays with links to each play. The current ROI of the Fund is 3.1%...

    963 8-Jul OAK +164 1.64
    Thu 1.64
    Week 1-4 5.03
    Week 5-8 -3.32
    Week 9-12 -7.34
    Week 13 0.56
    Week 14 5.91
    Mon 3.54
    Tue 2.13
    Wed -1.8
    Total 6.35
    Here's the chart...


    ...


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    • Joe Sharp
      SBR MVP
      • 06-01-09
      • 3011

      #527
      Noted. Let's tread lightly thru the weekend and aim to protect our profits. It's not a sprint, we can press after the break. Best of luck KVB.
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      • KVB
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 05-29-14
        • 74817

        #528
        The Fund is in action with Texas and New York...

        Originally posted by KVB
        The KVB MLB Contrarian Fund has picked up...

        922 9-Jul TEX +121
        923 NYY +122
        Backbone plays. Deep line shopping here.
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        • KVB
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 05-29-14
          • 74817

          #529
          Originally posted by Joe Sharp
          Noted. Let's tread lightly thru the weekend and aim to protect our profits. It's not a sprint, we can press after the break. Best of luck KVB.
          Feels like a dicey time for sure, anything can happen.

          What a ride so far though, huh? Crazy.

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          • jjgold
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 07-20-05
            • 388189

            #530
            complicated thread
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            • KVB
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 05-29-14
              • 74817

              #531
              Not really. There's nothing simple about plying the markets but I've simplified it quite a bit..

              It is a report thread though, not really meant for posting plays.

              Aren't you at least curious to see what happens next?

              I am.
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              • KVB
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 05-29-14
                • 74817

                #532
                Here's the recent summary...

                Originally posted by KVB
                Here's the KVB MLB Contrarian Fund with links to each play...

                922 9-Jul TEX +121 1.21
                923 NYY +122 1.22
                Fri 2.43
                Week 1-4 5.03
                Week 5-8 -3.32
                Week 9-12 -7.34
                Week 13 0.56
                Week 14 5.91
                Mon 3.54
                Tue 2.13
                Wed -1.8
                Thu 1.64
                Total 8.78
                Here's the 2 year chart. We are 1.5 units off of the 2 season high.

                I still have some of those support/resistance lines in the charts, for a reason...


                ...

                We coninue to run hot, with increasing momentum. I still maintain we could see about a -4 unit loss before the break, but we avoided any of that yesterday. I have been right an awful lot in predicting what the market will do, I'm hoping to be wrong with this small, prediction.

                We remain fully Funded and are not removing any assets at this time, even though it looks like a real good idea now. Our outlook is the same, expecting a sideways to down market of the the near term but we still remain bullish overall.

                These bull runs can really get going, as we've seen.

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                • KVB
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 05-29-14
                  • 74817

                  #533
                  On WAS, Balty, and Philly in the backbone...

                  Originally posted by KVB
                  The KVB MLB Contrarian Fund has picked up...

                  951 10-Jul WAS +178
                  972 BAL +187
                  979 PHI +145
                  Backbone plays.
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                  • jjgold
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 07-20-05
                    • 388189

                    #534
                    Sexy thread
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                    • KVB
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 05-29-14
                      • 74817

                      #535
                      Originally posted by jjgold
                      Sexy thread
                      There is not one poster the gets this or gets why it happens, not one.

                      Not one poster able to answer how this is possible, not even a guess.

                      Gold, as simple as I make it, this thread goes over the heads of everyone here. Pretty far over their heads too.

                      Only those who have followed all the market tracking Funds over the years are even close to understanding. One issue is the overall poor gambling IQ here at SBR. Bettors haveno chance of understanding these concepts if they can't get the basic concepts.

                      I will continue to educate in the picks thread but it's definitely the epitome of swimming upstream...lol.

                      Perhaps it's video time.
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                      • jjgold
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 07-20-05
                        • 388189

                        #536
                        KVB you need to worry about more getting laid let me worry about charts and technical analysis
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                        • KVB
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 05-29-14
                          • 74817

                          #537
                          Originally posted by jjgold
                          KVB you need to worry about more getting laid let me worry about charts and technical analysis
                          I sleep with a naked woman next to me every night, Gold.

                          Also, added COL...



                          Originally posted by KVB
                          The KVB MLB Contrarian Fund has added...

                          963 10-Jul COL +175
                          Backbone play. BAS shows +172, BetNow +175.
                          Note the rotation number...
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                          • thomorino
                            Restricted User
                            • 06-01-17
                            • 45842

                            #538
                            All Kvb does is post meaningless charts and stays all day, no bets because he never wins. Just a boring and annoying person.
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                            • vitterd
                              Restricted User
                              • 09-14-17
                              • 58460

                              #539
                              Originally posted by jjgold
                              KVB you need to worry about more getting laid let me worry about charts and technical analysis
                              This thread isn’t even near Vitterd All Sports Thread which is now the biggest winning thread in sbr history. This is word jumbles and trying to put together a puzzle. Nobody wants a graph….they want a winner. This belongs in the saloon
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                              • jjgold
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 07-20-05
                                • 388189

                                #540
                                I see bets all the time
                                Morino you’re down 200 units

                                Originally posted by thomorino
                                All Kvb does is post meaningless charts and stays all day, no bets because he never wins. Just a boring and annoying person.
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                                • thomorino
                                  Restricted User
                                  • 06-01-17
                                  • 45842

                                  #541
                                  Originally posted by jjgold
                                  I see bets all the time
                                  Morino you’re down 200 units
                                  Wrong, that is not my record you dumb shit.
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                                  • KVB
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 05-29-14
                                    • 74817

                                    #542
                                    Here's the recent summary...

                                    Originally posted by KVB
                                    Let's get some results down. I fell like I haven't brought up as many teaching points recently but we've kind of been on a little break here in the office and with only one Fund being posted there's only so much to put out there.

                                    Here's the KVB MLB Contrarian Fund through 211 plays with links to each play...

                                    10-Jul WAS +178 -1
                                    COL +175 1.75
                                    BAL +187 -1
                                    PHI +145 1.45
                                    Sat 1.2
                                    Week 1-4 5.03
                                    Week 5-8 -3.32
                                    Week 9-12 -7.34
                                    Week 13 0.56
                                    Week 14 5.91
                                    Mon 3.54
                                    Tue 2.13
                                    Wed -1.8
                                    Thu 1.64
                                    Fri 2.43
                                    Total 9.98
                                    Here's the chart. We continue the bull run and the last test of the SMA 10 as support has led to a breakout of that pre crash range, already.


                                    ...
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                                    • jjgold
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 07-20-05
                                      • 388189

                                      #543
                                      Bull run

                                      Text book
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                                      • KVB
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 05-29-14
                                        • 74817

                                        #544
                                        Originally posted by jjgold
                                        Bull run

                                        Text book
                                        It's the second bull run in the backbone since the beginning of last season. The first was coming out of a partial reverse head and shoulders and this one out of a bull "W" pattern.

                                        Gold, if you have any knowledge of stock trading or technical reading, then try to answer my question.

                                        How is this possible? It's something I've been teaching by example, proving something everyone else in the Forum can only try to argue with zero background knowledge.

                                        Gold this goes far above the level and sports betting IQ of the SBR Forum, far above. Not sure there is a single reader or poster out there that understands what is happening here.

                                        But don't get me wrong, plenty of posters can pick up what I'm putting down, it's just very difficult to pick up anything else here, unless I put it down.

                                        I exist outside the cave Gold, and I'm just trying to shed a little light of reality upon the darkness of ignorance that is SBR. I don't expect but a tiny fraction to understand and only a fraction of that would know what to do with it if they did understand.

                                        The real meat of it all is, of course, always in FlyMe as it's knowledge for the esoteric.

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                                        • jjgold
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 07-20-05
                                          • 388189

                                          #545
                                          This is one of the biggest bull runs you’ve been on let’s not kid yourself

                                          When is the time to start fading you
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                                          • KVB
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 05-29-14
                                            • 74817

                                            #546
                                            Originally posted by jjgold
                                            This is one of the biggest bull runs you’ve been on let’s not kid yourself...
                                            Gold it's practically a yearly occurrence.

                                            This recent run from the bottom this season is a +22.86 run over 41 plays.

                                            Last seasons total run from the bottom to the high this season was +27.76 units over 77 plays, but it was a +21.18 unit run over the last 39 of those plays.

                                            This run is comparable to last year, could continue a little further and when it stops running it could go sideways short term.

                                            Psychologically, understand the rides the technical bettor has been through, look at the charts, patterns, signals, and what happened right after.

                                            We are not going to be quick to time this market on it's pullback, we will watch the lagging indicators and of course the leading indicators.

                                            Don't allow the market to force you to become impatient Gold, you already did that a couple of times this season and we are just heading into the all star break.

                                            We remain fully funded, even at these levels.

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                                            • KVB
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 05-29-14
                                              • 74817

                                              #547
                                              We are in action with Pit, Was, Zona and Cle...

                                              Originally posted by KVB
                                              The KVB MLB Contrarian Fund has picked up...

                                              904 16-Jul PIT +145
                                              906 WAS +138
                                              916 ARI +139
                                              931 CLE +183
                                              Backbone plays. Bookmaker with the generous Cleveland line.
                                              Good Luck, we've been on quite a run leading into the break and I did have some auxillary reports for to share. I will have to get to it later but coming back from the break with 4 backbone market tracking plays makes us market watchers a little nervous.

                                              We reamain fully funded with a positive outlook but we are also running hot with some techncal indicators showing we should get a pullback and sideways market before a further short term direction is decided, up or down..

                                              We can't rule out market shakeouts here and the most conservative of Contrarian Fund strategies is to pull back and buy on the dips. But we are not conservative here and sitting on gains from the bull run we will continue to play the market, even if there is short term pain.

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                                              • KVB
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 05-29-14
                                                • 74817

                                                #548
                                                Running Cleveland back here in the Fund.

                                                Here's the play and the recent summary.

                                                Originally posted by KVB
                                                The KVB MLB Contrarian Fund has picked up...

                                                967 17-Jul CLE +161
                                                Backbone play.

                                                Here's the recent summary...

                                                904 16-Jul PIT +145 1.45
                                                906 WAS +138 -1
                                                916 ARI +139 -1
                                                931 CLE +183 -1
                                                Fri -1.55
                                                Week 1-4 5.03
                                                Week 5-8 -3.32
                                                Week 9-12 -7.34
                                                Week 13 0.56
                                                Week 14 5.91
                                                Week 15 9.14
                                                Total 8.43
                                                Here's the chart, we hit a season high before pulling back to just below the SMA 10, breaking through the SMA 10 could represent some downward pressure here short term in the Fund...



                                                Our value has dropped below the SMA 10, and it could be a concern as we head towards the 10. Notice the last time we dipped below that SMA 10 we had the SMA 100 as support. This time we'll have to rely on that SMA 20.

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                                                • KVB
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 05-29-14
                                                  • 74817

                                                  #549
                                                  Added Was, Pit, and Balty...

                                                  Originally posted by KVB
                                                  The KVB MLB Contrarian Fund has added...

                                                  954 17-Jun WAS +121
                                                  956 PIT +152
                                                  971 BAL +148
                                                  Backbone play...
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                                                  • jjgold
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 07-20-05
                                                    • 388189

                                                    #550
                                                    Best of luck Tanner

                                                    Lol you Cali guys got weird names

                                                    Tanner
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                                                    • KVB
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 05-29-14
                                                      • 74817

                                                      #551
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                                                      • KVB
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 05-29-14
                                                        • 74817

                                                        #552
                                                        The Fund is in action today with Col and Tex but we have not finished yesterday's action...

                                                        Originally posted by KVB
                                                        The KVB MLB Contrarian Fund has picked up...

                                                        912 18-Jul COL +140
                                                        931 TEX +205
                                                        Backbone plays.

                                                        There are no results from yesterday as the SD/WAS will be continued today. Here are yesterday's results so far...

                                                        954 17-Jul WAS +121
                                                        956 PIT +152 1.52
                                                        967 CLE +161 1.61
                                                        971 BAL +148 1.48
                                                        Sat 4.61
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                                                        • KVB
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 05-29-14
                                                          • 74817

                                                          #553
                                                          It's not much of a report but it's the latest KVB NBA Contrarian Fund Playoff summary, so it belongs in this thread.

                                                          It's been a grind...

                                                          Originally posted by KVB
                                                          Here's the KVB NBA Contrarian Fund Playoffs...

                                                          1 Unit
                                                          Record Date NBA Contrarian Fund Playoffs per bet
                                                          567 19-May SA +4 (-101) 0
                                                          579 21-May MEM +5 (-108) 0.93
                                                          501 23-May ATL +1.5 (-110) 0.91
                                                          543 26-May ATL +2 (-103) -1
                                                          872 29-May MIA +5 (-110) -1
                                                          578 MEM +5.5 (-110) -1
                                                          506 30-May BOS +8.5 (+100) -1
                                                          512 31-May WAS +9 (-108) 0.93
                                                          514 MEM +5.5 (-103) -1
                                                          574 6-Jun LAC -6.5 (-105) 0.95
                                                          554 13-Jun DEN +3.5 (-110) -1
                                                          521 19-Jun MIL +2 (-104) 0.96
                                                          582 25-Jun MIL -8.5 (-104) 0.96
                                                          509 17-Jul MIL +4.5 (-110) 0.91
                                                          Total 0.55
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                                                          • Machba
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 01-08-19
                                                            • 6743

                                                            #554
                                                            Kvb (bow)
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                                                            • jjgold
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 07-20-05
                                                              • 388189

                                                              #555
                                                              Tanner what is the game plan today
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                                                              • KVB
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 05-29-14
                                                                • 74817

                                                                #556
                                                                Originally posted by jjgold
                                                                Tanner what is the game plan today
                                                                Yesterday I covered a song for SBR, today I plan to answer one of your questions actually. I need to go back and find it but I think it had to do with when to fade or pull back.

                                                                I went back and looked and did find this little exchange...

                                                                When the chart was this...



                                                                You said this...

                                                                Originally posted by jjgold
                                                                I’m probably looking for a fade starting Sunday or Monday depending on the curve
                                                                That was on July 1st and I responded with this...

                                                                Originally posted by KVB
                                                                Be careful, don't try to swing trade this literal day trading market.

                                                                It can fool you with these curves that it generates.....the rest of this post isa for FlyMe, in the Saloon.

                                                                Sorry pal, I can't lift a heaping spoonful right up to your face.

                                                                You have to be able to accept for yourself. Did you see what I did in the WNBA thread yesterday Gold? I wallked us through one.

                                                                It's not what they bring, it's how they bring it and it's only when you can accept what they bring that you can truly accept how they bring it.






                                                                Anyway I was thinking of introducing some other metrics, including charting and moving averages that can tell us we've been running hot, which ones to ingore, and which ones to pay attention to.

                                                                Let's see what I get to.

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                                                                • KVB
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 05-29-14
                                                                  • 74817

                                                                  #557
                                                                  Originally posted by KVB
                                                                  ...Our value has dropped below the SMA 10, and it could be a concern as we head towards the 10. Notice the last time we dipped below that SMA 10 we had the SMA 100 as support. This time we'll have to rely on that SMA 20...
                                                                  This support of the SMA 20 (light blue line in the charts) is exactly what we got.

                                                                  Here's the recent summary...

                                                                  Originally posted by KVB
                                                                  Here's the KVB MLB Contrarian Fund after yesterday. The Washington loss finished today...

                                                                  954 17-Jul WAS +121 -1
                                                                  956 PIT +152 1.52
                                                                  967 CLE +161 1.61
                                                                  971 BAL +148 1.48
                                                                  Sat 3.61
                                                                  Week 1-4 5.03
                                                                  Week 5-8 -3.32
                                                                  Week 9-12 -7.34
                                                                  Week 13 0.56
                                                                  Week 14 5.91
                                                                  Week 15 9.14
                                                                  Fri -1.55
                                                                  Total 12.04
                                                                  Here's the chart. At the last summary I posted this in the Contrarian report thread...
                                                                  Originally posted by KVB
                                                                  ...Our value has dropped below the SMA 10, and it could be a concern as we head towards the 10. Notice the last time we dipped below that SMA 10 we had the SMA 100 as support. This time we'll have to rely on that SMA 20...

                                                                  Notice the support off of the SMA 20 with yesterday's games, which has led us to a season high...



                                                                  We are running hot, including the near term win percentage for the Fund.

                                                                  We are at a season high of +12.04 units and a 2 year high of +19.91 units.

                                                                  As stated in early summaries, expect sideways to down a little, but it's no reason to reduce Funding. There are healthy losses and pullbacks and quite frankly the Washington loss yesterday puts us at the SMA 20, prime for the bounce, which we got.

                                                                  Had Washington come back this morning and won that game, sure we get a rise, but we don't get the "healthy" give and take market we've come to know and love.

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                                                                  • KVB
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 05-29-14
                                                                    • 74817

                                                                    #558
                                                                    In this recent bull run I want to point out some facts on the charts when it comes to the SMA's and support and resistance.

                                                                    Instead of multiple posts I'm going to try to accomplish all of it with one zoomed graph.

                                                                    1) Our support comes with the SMAs and I want to focus on the recent bull run. Since completing the "W" pattern, where the last part of the W reaches the middle level of the W, completing the W.

                                                                    The first thing we did was hit resistance at the SMA 200, marked with a red circle.

                                                                    From there we found support stepping upwards at the SMA100, 200, 10, then 20, all marked with the green circles. Yes we fell through the SMA 10 to get to the SMA 20, it's the nature of those close Simple Moving Averages. The key is that the SMA 10 didn't fall below the SMA 20 and that the Units, after bouncing off the SMA 20, have blown. through the SMA 10.

                                                                    That leaves us with one SMA on our chart to find support with...the SMA 50, represented by the thin green line. Notice the SMA 50 has blown through both the SMA 100 and 200, it appears to be on it's way...



                                                                    2) I don't usually use the unit lines as reference because each player will get different prices. In our chart here, the red arrows show how we've found support at the +5 and +15 unit marks in the two year chart. In each case it's really the first time those lines market support, as they had previouly been resistance, marked with the yellow highlight. Note both spots marked with the arrows also bounce off of SMA's, which may be the more important factor here.

                                                                    We like to see resistance become support but notice that the +10 unit line in the chart has in the past represented more resistance than support, also marked with the yellow highlight. It's a level we have yet to really show support and that could be something we end up coming back to before the season ends. If you look at the full chart you can see how this is true going back to the beginning of the season.

                                                                    So for now we continue to watch the SMAs especially the SMA 50 and would expect, as said before, a sideways to downward market to help put our units towards that SMA 50. It's a pretty healthy althought steep bull run here as we've stepped up using those moving averages and support as well as turning previous resistance into support.

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                                                                    • KVB
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 05-29-14
                                                                      • 74817

                                                                      #559
                                                                      Here's the recent summary...

                                                                      Originally posted by KVB
                                                                      Here's the KVB MLB Contrarian Fund Backbone through 221 plays with links to each play...

                                                                      912 18-Jul COL +140 1.4
                                                                      931 TEX +205 -1
                                                                      Sun 0.4
                                                                      Week 1-4 5.03
                                                                      Week 5-8 -3.32
                                                                      Week 9-12 -7.34
                                                                      Week 13 0.56
                                                                      Week 14 5.91
                                                                      Week 15 9.14
                                                                      Fri -1.55
                                                                      Sat 3.61
                                                                      Total 12.44
                                                                      We have reached another season high. Here's the two year chart...

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                                                                      • KVB
                                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                                        • 05-29-14
                                                                        • 74817

                                                                        #560
                                                                        A Note on the Fund tracking...

                                                                        Originally posted by KVB
                                                                        Last week I said this...
                                                                        Originally posted by KVB
                                                                        Later this month I will be gone, outright gone and possibly out of touch completely for a couple of days.

                                                                        I have made arrangements to have most betting in my office continue, but it's possibe one or two days go by where I do not post Fund triggers. That is rare.

                                                                        If it's the backbone I will have to put those plays in the tracking, posted or not, as any plays will be part of the index. Hopefully they lose so I won't have add it to every summary...

                                                                        The other option is to stop tracking the Fund backbone altogether and maybe just post the aggressive buys or swings.

                                                                        I really don't like having charts with plays not posted, there's an integrity issue. Best case scenario is the plays lose, and then I won't feel so bad adding the losers into the record.

                                                                        But starting tomorrow I may not be posting the MLB contrarian plays. I might get them in tomorrow, but Tuesday and Wednesday I may not be able to log into SBR at all, even if my office does make the buys...
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