Clemson v. Alabama - Pick

[thomorino]

So then, what made it go below 7?

It's not like Bama has gotten any better over the season as they are scoring at will in just about all games except for the Georgia game.

If anything, Clemson has gotten better.

Like someone said earlier, after Bama went up 28-0 against Oklahoma they were -17 for the rest of the game.

I highly doubt that Bama can run up the score like they have against the other teams when they play Clemson.

Bama has benefited getting the good teams at home except LSU, but LSU has no offense or at least not good enough offense to score against a great defense like Alabama.

Clemson has some really tall receivers who can get the jump balls.

Did you see Venables on the side line when they played Notre Dame? He was a man who was possessed.

The first year defensive coordinator for Alabama on the other hand isn't a secondary guru and therefore Bama can be passed on and Clemson can pass. I'm sure Nick Saban will help with the secondary defense but in the end he isn't in the coach's box to call the defense.

It will be a good game, and I just don't see Bama running away with this one as they could not against Georgia.

Heck, Georgia was manhandled by Texas, so it's all about motivation in college football and I'm 99% certain that Clemson has the motivational edge on this one for how Bama has beat them so badly last year.

There's no motivational edge because its a completely different team since Lawrence is the QB not Bryant, but the number went down mostly because Alabama struggled since Tua was one 1 leg - he's much more healthy now. The line also dropped because Clemson destroyed an overrated ND team.

[thomorino]

So then, what made it go below 7?

It's not like Bama has gotten any better over the season as they are scoring at will in just about all games except for the Georgia game.

If anything, Clemson has gotten better.

Like someone said earlier, after Bama went up 28-0 against Oklahoma they were -17 for the rest of the game.

I highly doubt that Bama can run up the score like they have against the other teams when they play Clemson.

Bama has benefited getting the good teams at home except LSU, but LSU has no offense or at least not good enough offense to score against a great defense like Alabama.

Clemson has some really tall receivers who can get the jump balls.

Did you see Venables on the side line when they played Notre Dame? He was a man who was possessed.

The first year defensive coordinator for Alabama on the other hand isn't a secondary guru and therefore Bama can be passed on and Clemson can pass. I'm sure Nick Saban will help with the secondary defense but in the end he isn't in the coach's box to call the defense.

It will be a good game, and I just don't see Bama running away with this one as they could not against Georgia.

Heck, Georgia was manhandled by Texas, so it's all about motivation in college football and I'm 99% certain that Clemson has the motivational edge on this one for how Bama has beat them so badly last year.

If you look at betting like trading or investing in stocks the view of Clemson is the highest its been all year since they just destroyed ND on national TV. Alabama should have destroyed Oklahoma but the defense played prevent with the huge lead.

[Cuse0323]

If you look at betting like trading or investing in stocks the view of Clemson is the highest its been all year since they just destroyed ND on national TV. Alabama should have destroyed Oklahoma but the defense played prevent with the huge lead.

Clemson destroys ND and it’s because they’re overrated. Bama doesn’t destroy OU, but of course they should have. Your logic is priceless.

[Da Manster!]

Let's look at how the ACC did in the bowl season compared to the SEC - this is comical.

NC State - three star players sat out and skipped the game got absolutely destroyed by an A&M team that was an average SEC team - NC State was at the top of the ACC recordwise most of the year.

Virginia Tech - played in a garbage bowl game because the team was bad all year and still lost.
very competitive game in rainy and windy conditions...a 6-6 team barely losing to a 10 - 2 team
Georgia Tech - Lost Paul Johnson a lame duck coach...the players obviously didn't give a damn

Syracuse - Won because Grier didn't play...you got me there

Duke - beat a Temple team that isn't even in a power conference...Temple was a legit team...after a slow start, they got their act together and played some damn good football down the stretch...Duke blew them out.

Miami - Lost...no surprise there...a warm weathered team playing in freezing temp's

Tech - Lost...yes, you've already told us that

The ACC was embarrassing in bowl games with the exception of Virgina and Duke, this conference has been overrated all year, Lawrence hasn't played anyone remotely close to Alabama.

Alabama has played Georgia, LSU, Oklahoma - they dominated 2 of the 3, the Georgia game they won with Tua on 1 leg.

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[DJK]

There's no motivational edge because its a completely different team since Lawrence is the QB not Bryant, but the number went down mostly because Alabama struggled since Tua was one 1 leg - he's much more healthy now. The line also dropped because Clemson destroyed an overrated ND team.

I've heard lots of people saying ND was overrated.

But, why isn't Clemson given the credit for what happened in the game?

I saw Notre Dame play USC and they were very good. I also saw them play Syracuse when they totally destroy them, so I'm not so sure saying ND is overrated is accurate as it could be more to Clemson is really that good.

ND also beat Northwestern in NW and you saw what NW did to Utah.

Has Bama held any opponent to 8 or 9 total passing yards in a game?

Clemson holding Pittsburgh to only 8 or 9 total passing yards has to be some sort of college record. It could only mean that their pass defense and their D line is really that good; scary good.

[Cuse0323]

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Guy will pick and choose his way through anything. Bama blew out A&M. A&M is good. Clemson gave up 430 passing yards to that same team which now sucks. A&M blew out NC State so they’re good again. Georgia lost their bowl game. Miss St. got beat. Who cares. Doesn’t matter.

[Cuse0323]

I've heard lots of people saying ND was overrated.

But, why isn't Clemson given the credit for what happened in the game?

I saw Notre Dame play USC and they were very good. I also saw them play Syracuse when they totally destroy them, so I'm not so sure saying ND is overrated is accurate as it could be more to Clemson is really that good.

ND also beat Northwestern in NW and you saw what NW did to Utah.

Has Bama held any opponent to 8 or 9 total passing yards in a game?

Clemson holding Pittsburgh to only 8 or 9 total passing yards has to be some sort of college record. It could only mean that their pass defense and their D line is really that good; scary good.

He isn’t gonna give credit where it’s due. Clemson is a product of their schedule sucking. Even if Bama wins, it’s a shit way to cap a game and proves what a terrible gambler he is.

[thomorino]

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Nearly everything you typed was wrong.

First, NC State was ranked 16th when the they played Clemson in the middle of the year.

Second, the Georgia Tech game - You missed that Tech was mediocre all year - 7-6 disappointing all season

3rd the Duke-Temple game - Temple was nothing special and their QB was likely playing hurt in that game against Duke, bullshit

Miami - The reason Miami lost wasn't because of the temperature, it was because their quarterbacks played like trash - which was a problem all year

[thomorino]

I've heard lots of people saying ND was overrated.

But, why isn't Clemson given the credit for what happened in the game?

I saw Notre Dame play USC and they were very good. I also saw them play Syracuse when they totally destroy them, so I'm not so sure saying ND is overrated is accurate as it could be more to Clemson is really that good.

ND also beat Northwestern in NW and you saw what NW did to Utah.

Has Bama held any opponent to 8 or 9 total passing yards in a game?

Clemson holding Pittsburgh to only 8 or 9 total passing yards has to be some sort of college record. It could only mean that their pass defense and their D line is really that good; scary good.

Oh come on. I've said many times I think Clemson is the 3rd best team in the country, I think they are a very good team, I just don't think they are as good as Alabama and Clemson has done nothing all year to suggest they can play with Alabama.

ND's resume was a joke, USC went up and down the field on them and Northwestern wasn't that good, Utah just collapsed mentally after the turnover inside the 10 yard line.

[thomorino]

The SEC was much more impressive all year, including in bowl games, not even close.

[Cuse0323]

You should watch that Clemson A&M game just for shits. You’ll see that the passing yards were inflated because Clemson was dominating. Game was not as close as the final score. It was never in doubt. A&M had to throw all game. Bama hasn’t seen anything like Lawrence. He makes Fromm look like a scrub. Clemson makes teams like ND look overrated. You’re gonna be in for a rude awakening once play starts. This isn’t gonna be like OU. It’s gonna be a battle.

[thomorino]

You should watch that Clemson A&M game just for shits. You’ll see that the passing yards were inflated because Clemson was dominating. Game was not as close as the final score. It was never in doubt. A&M had to throw all game. Bama hasn’t seen anything like Lawrence. He makes Fromm look like a scrub. Clemson makes teams like ND look overrated. You’re gonna be in for a rude awakening once play starts. This isn’t gonna be like OU. It’s gonna be a battle.

It was 14-3 at half, at no point was Clemson dominating.

[navyblue81]

Oh come on. I've said many times I think Clemson is the 3rd best team in the country, I think they are a very good team, I just don't think they are as good as Alabama and Clemson has done nothing all year to suggest they can play with Alabama.

ND's resume was a joke, USC went up and down the field on them and Northwestern wasn't that good, Utah just collapsed mentally after the turnover inside the 10 yard line.

ND's resume was not a joke. They beat 5 ranked teams. Not saying ND is this great and elite team and they piled up wins over top opponents, but to say their resume was a joke is a pretty dumb statement and makes you lose a lot of credibility. They beat more ranked opponents than most teams did.

[Cuse0323]

It was 14-3 at half, at no point was Clemson dominating.

Whatever you say. Just read your little stats but don’t actually watch the game. It was 28-13 going into the 4th. Was never in doubt. And in a hostile environment. Again with your selective criticism. Bama gets outscored by OU substantially after their big lead but you got an excuse for those stats.

[thomorino]

ND's resume was not a joke. They beat 5 ranked teams. Not saying ND is this great and elite team and they piled up wins over top opponents, but to say their resume was a joke is a pretty dumb statement and makes you lose a lot of credibility. They beat more ranked opponents than most teams did.

Fuk off

[thomorino]

Not that I care but

Let's look at ND's resume.

They beat Michigan at home - this was Patterson's first start since trasnferring from Ole Miss, obvoiusly he wasn't good at the start of the year.

They beat Stanford at home - an overrated Stanford team with no pass defense that finished 9-4 - Stanford wasn't even ranked at the end of the year.

They beat a Northwestern team that was a mediocre big ten team - they weren't anywhere near as good as top teams, we saw that in the big ten championship game.

[navyblue81]

Not that I care but

Let's look at ND's resume.

They beat Michigan at home - this was Patterson's first start since trasnferring from Ole Miss, obvoiusly he wasn't good at the start of the year.

They beat Stanford at home - an overrated Stanford team with no pass defense that finished 9-4 - Stanford wasn't even ranked at the end of the year.

They beat a Northwestern team that was a mediocre big ten team - they weren't anywhere near as good as top teams, we saw that in the big ten championship game.

Northwestern, Michigan and Syracuse were decent teams. Not going to say they were great, but they were solid and decent. And not going to say Notre Dame was a machine by any stretch, but their resume as pointed by Kirk Herbestreit was solid. And I trust Herbstreit over you any day of the week. Just saying,.

[thomorino]

Northwestern, Michigan and Syracuse were decent teams. Not going to say they were great, but they were solid and decent. And not going to say Notre Dame was a machine by any stretch, but their resume as pointed by Kirk Herbestreit was solid. And I trust Herbstreit over you any day of the week. Just saying,.

Not that I care, but yeah, Syracuse was decent, but their starting QB was hurt in the first quarter of that game and he was their offense.

[dmncnlou]

38- 23 Alabama. All Trevor Lawrence does is pass off the rpo. He throws down the middle and verticals, that's it. Notre Dame gave Clemson a game before they self destructed. Bama will win by at least 2 touchdowns

[navyblue81]

Not that I care, but yeah, Syracuse was decent, but their starting QB was hurt in the first quarter of that game and he was their offense.

Was he their defense, too, because ND's offense destroyed their D? I swear, you have excuses for everything.

[thomorino]

Was he their defense, too, because ND's offense destroyed their D? I swear, you have excuses for everything.

Everyone who understands football understands you can't seperate offense from defense, when Syracuse's starting QB went out the offense couldn't get first downs and the defense which wasn't good to begin with wore down.

[Slipknot26]

Not really sure why you are all arguing .
You played different teams , the bet is done . Nothing changing now .
What ifs can happen Tuesday after someone loses .

[Cuse0323]

Was he their defense, too, because ND's offense destroyed their D? I swear, you have excuses for everything.

Not to mention that Cuse has a backup that many will know the name of soon enough. He will be a household name, guaranteed. Better passer than Dungey already. And he’s mobile. We weren’t beating ND with Dungey. But, I forgot. He’s an overrated run first QB.

I think people will realize after the first few drives that they may have made a mistake with Bama if they think it was gonna be easy.

[Cuse0323]

Not really sure why you are all arguing .
You played different teams , the bet is done . Nothing changing now .
What ifs can happen Tuesday after someone loses .

Only cause it’s Morono. And for me, I’d like to help people not make the same mistakes as him. Take Bama, fine, but not for the junk reasons he’s spewing. Plus I’m bored. Gave me a reason to rewatch or watch some games.

[thomorino]

Not to mention that Cuse has a backup that many will know the name of soon enough. He will be a household name, guaranteed. Better passer than Dungey already. And he’s mobile. We weren’t beating ND with Dungey. But, I forgot. He’s an overrated run first QB.

I think people will realize after the first few drives that they may have made a mistake with Bama if they think it was gonna be easy.

Dungey was nothing special but he obviously a big upgrade over the backup who likely hadn't even gotten first team reps

[thomorino]

Only cause it’s Morono. And for me, I’d like to help people not make the same mistakes as him. Take Bama, fine, but not for the junk reasons he’s spewing. Plus I’m bored.

Fuk off

[thomorino]

Not that I care but if you look at my record betting Alabama games I have a good record. I don't think anyone thinks it will be that easy, but I think this game could be a blowout, I don't see Clemson being able to run at all.

[dmncnlou]

Not to mention that Cuse has a backup that many will know the name of soon enough. He will be a household name, guaranteed. Better passer than Dungey already. And he’s mobile. We weren’t beating ND with Dungey. But, I forgot. He’s an overrated run first QB.

I think people will realize after the first few drives that they may have made a mistake with Bama if they think it was gonna be easy.

Lol. You never make a mistake with Alabama. Superior coaching and talent . You would need your head examined if you were to ever ML against Alabama.

[Cuse0323]

Dungey was nothing special but he obviously a big upgrade over the backup who likely hadn't even gotten first team reps

Coach had to decide between Dungey and DeVito before the NC State game. Many fans wanted Tommy D. He made the right choice, but TD was always ready to play.

[navyblue81]

Everyone who understands football understands you can't seperate offense from defense, when Syracuse's starting QB went out the offense couldn't get first downs and the defense which wasn't good to begin with wore down.

You do know that he was 1-for-4 with an INT and they were down 13-0 when the backup took over, right? But yeah, I'm sure you have another excuse coming.

Ok enough of this because this thread is about Clemson-Alabama.

[thomorino]

Lol. You never make a mistake with Alabama. Superior coaching and talent . You would need your head examined if you were to ever ML against Alabama.

Agree, Sweeney is a great recruiter and Venables is solid as defensive coordinator but Saban's the much better coach, not even close. I like that Alabama wasn't sharp against Oklahoma and didn't blow them out, I think it sets this game up well.

[Cuse0323]

Lol. You never make a mistake with Alabama. Superior coaching and talent . You would need your head examined if you were to ever ML against Alabama.

Clemson is at Bama’s level. They have been and will be. They recruit and coach just as well.

[thomorino]

Coach had to decide between Dungey and DeVito before the NC State game. Many fans wanted Tommy D. He made the right choice, but TD was always ready to play.

Nobody would argue the backup was ready, and you're missing the point. For a backup to play with a week of practice is completely different than coming in the middle of the game after not getting any reps with the first team all week in practice.

[thomorino]

Clemson is at Bama’s level. They have been and will be. They recruit and coach just as well.

Clemson is not at Bama's level, they just appeared to be because they had Watson - the best dual threat QB to play in college in a long time.

[Cuse0323]

Nobody would argue the backup was ready, and you're missing the point. For a backup to play with a week of practice is completely different than coming in the middle of the game after not getting any reps with the first team all week in practice.

You’re missing the point as usual. He got first team reps.

Point is. ND was gonna smoke em regardless.