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  • raiders72001
    Senior Member
    • 08-10-05
    • 11062

    #736
    Originally posted by asiagambler
    And you can short bitcoin so is that necessarily a good thing?

    Price tumbled hard when CBOE and CME launched bitcoin futures though unlike Bakkt, they were cash settled futures
    It's a tough call on short term institution money. I think the more that bitcoin becomes involved in futures or any other type of bitcoin activity, the better it is long term. More awareness of bitcoin should lead to an increase in price.
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    • milwaukee mike
      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
      • 08-22-07
      • 26914

      #737
      Originally posted by TheMoneyShot
      Interesting perspective... but remember the PO's are coming from wallets... not exchanges. I don't think that would trigger anything.

      Somehow they get the data on rapid buys and rapid sells from exchanges.... that would change the price.
      i was just thinking if bookmaker sends out $1 million in btc at 2pm, and most people are gonna sell once it's confirmed, that could possibly create a bunch of sells in a short amount of time?

      i have seen a bunch of 300 point drops right around the time my payouts are getting confirmed and not too many big jumps
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      • clockwise1965
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 10-01-13
        • 6753

        #738
        Crazy ride for short term investors.
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        • Hman
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 11-04-17
          • 21429

          #739
          Well looks like we're closing in on the $7,000 range


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          • Sam Odom
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 10-30-05
            • 58063

            #740
            Buying a little <7500

            Have no real/legit reason why...
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            • asiagambler
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 07-23-17
              • 6831

              #741
              Originally posted by Sam Odom
              Buying a little <7500

              Have no real/legit reason why...
              Because shorts are about to get rekt
              <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">5,000,000 <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/USDT?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw"># USDT</a> (5,037,203 USD) transferred from Tether Treasury to <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Bitfinex?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etf w">#Bitfinex</a><br><br>Tx: <a href="https://t.co/0XyKd2epR1">https://t.co/0XyKd2epR1</a></p>&mdash; Whale Alert (@whale_alert) <a href="https://twitter.com/whale_alert/status/1176977839775768582?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >September 25, 2019</a></blockquote><script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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              • Hman
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 11-04-17
                • 21429

                #742
                Originally posted by asiagambler
                Because shorts are about to get rekt
                <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">5,000,000 <a rel="nofollow" href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/USDT?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw"># USDT</a> (5,037,203 USD) transferred from Tether Treasury to <a rel="nofollow" href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Bitfinex?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etf w">#Bitfinex</a><br><br>Tx: <a rel="nofollow" href="https://t.co/0XyKd2epR1">https://t.co/0XyKd2epR1</a></p>&mdash; Whale Alert (@whale_alert) <a rel="nofollow" href="https://twitter.com/whale_alert/status/1176977839775768582?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >September 25, 2019</a></blockquote><script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


                Meaning?
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                • asiagambler
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 07-23-17
                  • 6831

                  #743
                  Originally posted by Hman
                  Meaning?
                  Meaning- pump incoming courtesy of tether
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                  • milwaukee mike
                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                    • 08-22-07
                    • 26914

                    #744
                    Originally posted by raiders72001
                    It's a tough call on short term institution money. I think the more that bitcoin becomes involved in futures or any other type of bitcoin activity, the better it is long term. More awareness of bitcoin should lead to an increase in price.
                    since that run to 20k, i've felt the opposite

                    additional activity drowns the network and shows just how worthless bitcoin and other cryptos are, as a means of transfer, there's just no way to make it instantaneous or quick like a credit card

                    it's been years now and still nobody uses bitcoin for anything other than gambling or money laundering, or trading... that's not an asset that's a scam
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                    • Sam Odom
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 10-30-05
                      • 58063

                      #745
                      Can buy dozens of retail gift cards with BTC
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                      • milwaukee mike
                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                        • 08-22-07
                        • 26914

                        #746
                        Originally posted by Sam Odom
                        Can buy dozens of retail gift cards with BTC
                        but why would average joe want to?

                        hey step right up and buy your $1000 amazon gift card... not only do you not get the frequent flier miles and credit card rebates, but you can buy 1000 worth of bitcoin and end up with 900 at amazon because of the price fluctuation!

                        what a great way to waste time and effort just to cost myself money!
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                        • Sam Odom
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 10-30-05
                          • 58063

                          #747
                          Originally posted by milwaukee mike


                          ...but you can buy 1000 worth of bitcoin and end up with 900 at amazon because of the price fluctuation!

                          JFC mikey -- you are sounding like a rookie or someone who just got burned on this price drop

                          Because over the years it has worked just the opposite many many times... (your quote above)


                          Also... Many posters use BTC DCs for daily expenditures


                          Anyhow... good to see your posting
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                          • milwaukee mike
                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                            • 08-22-07
                            • 26914

                            #748
                            Originally posted by Sam Odom
                            JFC mikey -- you are sounding like a rookie or someone who just got burned on this price drop

                            Because over the years it has worked just the opposite many many times... (your quote above)


                            Also... Many posters use BTC DCs for daily expenditures


                            Anyhow... good to see your posting
                            absolutely

                            i've always said cryptos aren't for the masses though
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                            • Hman
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 11-04-17
                              • 21429

                              #749
                              How long did it hang around the $10-12,000 range?

                              Whatever this drops to can we expect it to remain there for the same amount of time?
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                              • milwaukee mike
                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                • 08-22-07
                                • 26914

                                #750
                                Originally posted by Hman
                                How long did it hang around the $10-12,000 range?

                                Whatever this drops to can we expect it to remain there for the same amount of time?
                                no floor and no ceiling for cryptos, and certainly no road map

                                stuff like ripple went from less than .01 to 3.80 pretty quickly, and now at .23

                                pretty surprising to me that bitcoin has been relatively stable, still would like it to stay flat of course!
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                                • Hman
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 11-04-17
                                  • 21429

                                  #751
                                  Originally posted by milwaukee mike
                                  no floor and no ceiling for cryptos, and certainly no road map

                                  stuff like ripple went from less than .01 to 3.80 pretty quickly, and now at .23

                                  pretty surprising to me that bitcoin has been relatively stable, still would like it to stay flat of course!


                                  The payout I received from a sportsbook prior to this one was via direct-deposit.

                                  I think that's the route I'm going to use from here on out because the fee I paid is not more or less than what I pay in Bitcoin transaction fees, and it was in my account the very next night.
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                                  • milwaukee mike
                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                    • 08-22-07
                                    • 26914

                                    #752
                                    Originally posted by Hman
                                    The payout I received from a sportsbook prior to this one was via direct-deposit.

                                    I think that's the route I'm going to use from here on out because the fee I paid is not more or less than what I pay in Bitcoin transaction fees, and it was in my account the very next night.
                                    you rookie!

                                    -sam odom
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                                    • TheMoneyShot
                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                      • 02-14-07
                                      • 28672

                                      #753
                                      Only thing we do know... BTC is worth at least 5k lol
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                                      • raiders72001
                                        Senior Member
                                        • 08-10-05
                                        • 11062

                                        #754
                                        Originally posted by milwaukee mike
                                        since that run to 20k, i've felt the opposite

                                        additional activity drowns the network and shows just how worthless bitcoin and other cryptos are, as a means of transfer, there's just no way to make it instantaneous or quick like a credit card

                                        it's been years now and still nobody uses bitcoin for anything other than gambling or money laundering, or trading... that's not an asset that's a scam
                                        There will be improvements whether it's a sidechain or something that we haven't thought of yet. Bitcoin is 10 years old, don't give up on it.
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                                        • raiders72001
                                          Senior Member
                                          • 08-10-05
                                          • 11062

                                          #755
                                          I'm not sure if this has legs but read this today,

                                          Venezuela's dreams of becoming a crypto nation evidently extend beyond just the state-backed petro.
                                          Earlier today, Bloomberg reported that Venezuela’s central bank could soon be holding an undisclosed amount of Bitcoin and Ethereum as part of its international reserves.
                                          According to Bloomberg’s unnamed sources, the country’s national oil company (and primary source of revenue), Petroleos de Venezuela, is exploring ways to send BTC and ETH to the central bank so that the state-owned firm can pay its monetary obligations to international suppliers.
                                          It’s an idea that’s just crazy enough to work.
                                          https://decrypt.co/9697/venezuela-ce...zy-enough-work
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                                          • MinnesotaFats
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 12-18-10
                                            • 14758

                                            #756
                                            If Venezuela becomes a bitcoin nation then BTC is dead.
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                                            • milwaukee mike
                                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                              • 08-22-07
                                              • 26914

                                              #757
                                              Originally posted by raiders72001
                                              There will be improvements whether it's a sidechain or something that we haven't thought of yet. Bitcoin is 10 years old, don't give up on it.
                                              i think if there are improvements then it won't be bitcoin, it will be something altogether different

                                              banks/governments would never allow for an alternate currency or means of transfer to have widespread usage (remember when the holding of gold/silver was banned!)

                                              and even if they did the platform has shown that it's unusable even at relatively small transaction levels... v1sa handles 150 million transactions every day quickly, after 10 years bitcoin can't even handle 300,000 transactions without a 1 hour delay to get 6 confirmations... and the more transactions the higher the fees required.

                                              hard to see what the long-term future holds, but over the short-term of the next couple years, at least in the united states it looks like more states will be legalizing gambling, which leads to more offshore sportsbooks closing or not allowing customers (like new jersey) which leads to less of a need for bitcoin.

                                              and way too many instances of hacking, theft, scams, etc (i got creamed in the mt gox debacle)... cryptos are interesting because people can have such wide ranging views on them, god knows i've changed my opinions on bitcoin more than a few times!

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                                              • Sam Odom
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 10-30-05
                                                • 58063

                                                #758
                                                $8,147.75



                                                Originally posted by Sam Odom


                                                Buying a little <7500

                                                Have no real/legit reason why...

                                                Came close... real close but didnt dip below 7500 YET
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                                                • Hman
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 11-04-17
                                                  • 21429

                                                  #759
                                                  I think we're gonna be stuck here a long time.

                                                  If we could just get back to $8500 I will sell.

                                                  I'm going to stop the bleeding before it gets worse.
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                                                  • Sam Odom
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 10-30-05
                                                    • 58063

                                                    #760
                                                    H

                                                    hang tough is Sammy's advice
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                                                    • Sam Odom
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 10-30-05
                                                      • 58063

                                                      #761
                                                      $8,391.26


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                                                      • Hman
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 11-04-17
                                                        • 21429

                                                        #762
                                                        It's trying
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                                                        • Sam Odom
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 10-30-05
                                                          • 58063

                                                          #763
                                                          Originally posted by Hman


                                                          It's trying



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                                                          • MinnesotaFats
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 12-18-10
                                                            • 14758

                                                            #764


                                                            JP Morgan may have identified something here
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                                                            • Sam Odom
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 10-30-05
                                                              • 58063

                                                              #765
                                                              Fats

                                                              Cannot trust Governments
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                                                              • MinnesotaFats
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 12-18-10
                                                                • 14758

                                                                #766
                                                                Oh I know Sammy....but might one tank it to create their own? Pump it and dump it to fund a new sovereign cryto?
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                                                                • Sam Odom
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 10-30-05
                                                                  • 58063

                                                                  #767
                                                                  Fats

                                                                  Not out of the question
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                                                                  • Sam Odom
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 10-30-05
                                                                    • 58063

                                                                    #768
                                                                    $8,226.54


                                                                    Cubans Are Turning to Bitcoin

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                                                                    • milwaukee mike
                                                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                      • 08-22-07
                                                                      • 26914

                                                                      #769
                                                                      sammy how much of your net worth is in bitcoin?
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                                                                      • Sam Odom
                                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                                        • 10-30-05
                                                                        • 58063

                                                                        #770
                                                                        Originally posted by milwaukee mike

                                                                        sammy how much of your net worth is in bitcoin?
                                                                        Minuscule

                                                                        If it fell to $5.00... 'So What'
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