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  • Slurry Pumper
    SBR MVP
    • 06-18-18
    • 2811

    #3291
    In the near future I will start with the financial etf XLF. This sector always leads the market. Other than that I would look for a great company that is not tied to oil, or transportation that has been dragged down but has relative strength compared to the other stocks in that sector. Now is the time to be looking so that when it changes you can hop on.
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    • MinnesotaFats
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 12-18-10
      • 14758

      #3292
      Originally posted by KVB
      Yeah, if we cross that line, I'll likely change my strategy and not wait for broader accumulation signs. I'll trade more.

      I still like the idea of some of those potential high growth that we saw boom the last few years, like MJ.

      Maybe even electric vehicles.
      Self driving is going to change everything

      Delivery/ food service game no longer require a CDL. No more cabs/ uber will be fukking cheap as ever. Dudes w no licenses or suspended can still get around lol. Drinking everywhere!!!

      Good for old people too
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      • pavyracer
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 04-12-07
        • 82669

        #3293
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        • KVB
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 05-29-14
          • 74817

          #3294
          Originally posted by MinnesotaFats
          Self driving is going to change everything

          Delivery/ food service game no longer require a CDL. No more cabs/ uber will be fukking cheap as ever. Dudes w no licenses or suspended can still get around lol. Drinking everywhere!!!

          Good for old people too
          Because of ethical considerations, I doubt the self driving gig takes off in the near future. I do understand how much is out there, including trucks.

          If a computer controlling a car sees a a baby stroller in it's way, does it swerve to miss? Will it swerve into a crowd of 50 people to miss the stroller?

          Who decides the "right" choice there? Congress?

          These are issues that need to be overcome for liability purposes at the very least.

          I don't see it as investable at this point.
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          • Shafted69
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 07-04-08
            • 6412

            #3295
            Trumptanic Market is on life support
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            • MinnesotaFats
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 12-18-10
              • 14758

              #3296
              Originally posted by KVB
              Because of ethical considerations, I doubt the self driving gig takes off in the near future. I do understand how much is out there, including trucks.

              If a computer controlling a car sees a a baby stroller in it's way, does it swerve to miss? Will it swerve into a crowd of 50 people to miss the stroller?

              Who decides the "right" choice there? Congress?

              These are issues that need to be overcome for liability purposes at the very least.

              I don't see it as investable at this point.
              Theres already self driving cars in 3 states

              It's coming, called level 5 automation

              Available retail 2021.
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              • MinnesotaFats
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 12-18-10
                • 14758

                #3297
                If Pelosi doesn't sign this Senate bill tonite markets tanknagain tomorrow
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                • keely85
                  SBR MVP
                  • 01-04-15
                  • 4296

                  #3298
                  I think automation is a good 10-20 years off. Theres not enough data for the cars/trucks in special situations. Best option would be to have special lanes for these vehicles on major interstates and they can all just cruise at like 55...the ability to drive through the night would negate time factors.

                  Then you can just have them go to a "hub" 10 miles outside a major city, then a human drives the payload the final 10-30 miles.

                  Plenty of dying industries out there people are hanging onto...mining, farming, prostituting' ... all gonna be automated by robots
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                  • Mike Huntertz
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 08-19-09
                    • 11207

                    #3299
                    Dow Futures for Monday look down -700
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                    • homie1975
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 12-24-13
                      • 15452

                      #3300
                      Down 900 now and hit limit down.
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                      • HockeyRocks
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 07-10-13
                        • 6069

                        #3301
                        No surprise there...
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                        • homie1975
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 12-24-13
                          • 15452

                          #3302
                          Originally posted by HockeyRocks
                          No surprise there...
                          The moment the stimulus is signed it's gona bounce like a dead cat off a cirque du Soleil trampoline
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                          • HockeyRocks
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 07-10-13
                            • 6069

                            #3303
                            I respect your optimism, however, in its present form its more of a bailout for companies rather than help for the American worker...That is the holdup now...
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                            • MinnesotaFats
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 12-18-10
                              • 14758

                              #3304
                              Senate just rejectrd its bill

                              Guys theres no deal coming Mon or Tues

                              Look for another 15% dip mon/ Tues. Dow 1750 by Tuesday (thought it'd come Friday)

                              If congress doesnt get those checks out there's going to be anarchy by the poor
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                              • homie1975
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 12-24-13
                                • 15452

                                #3305
                                My understanding is that the main hold up right now is that the DEMS want more help for student loans and school

                                My understanding is that the business, worker, indiv piece of ot is agreeable to the DEMS.

                                It's the schools and student loans now.

                                This is what I'm hearing
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                                • grease lightnin
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 10-01-12
                                  • 16015

                                  #3306
                                  Originally posted by homie1975
                                  My understanding is that the main hold up right now is that the DEMS want more help for student loans and school

                                  My understanding is that the business, worker, indiv piece of ot is agreeable to the DEMS.

                                  It's the schools and student loans now.

                                  This is what I'm hearing
                                  You have a link on this, homie?
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                                  • HockeyRocks
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 07-10-13
                                    • 6069

                                    #3307
                                    Originally posted by homie1975
                                    The moment the stimulus is signed it's gona bounce like a dead cat off a cirque du Soleil trampoline
                                    Trump has said many many times that he opposes share buy back programs for corporations that receive federal help. However, in the bill it gives the Treasury Secretary the right to waive that provision anytime he wants...BS...
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                                    • keely85
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 01-04-15
                                      • 4296

                                      #3308
                                      How does 500 billion in untraceable money make sense anyway you spin it? When one of the largest points Dems make about Trump is him padding his own pockets?

                                      Dems wouldn’t give a shit if they would just hold Corp accountable. You know damn well they’re gonna have strings attached in taxes for the poor folk that get money.

                                      This shit won’t get done at all prob. And Dems can’t hold out Bc of said anarchy
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                                      • HockeyRocks
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 07-10-13
                                        • 6069

                                        #3309
                                        Originally posted by grease lightnin
                                        You have a link on this, homie?
                                        Political is reporting that it has to do with a 425 Billion dollar "Slush Fund" that can be used at the degresion of the president.....BS
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                                        • HockeyRocks
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 07-10-13
                                          • 6069

                                          #3310
                                          Originally posted by grease lightnin
                                          You have a link on this, homie?
                                          It also has to do with this....Trump has opposed stock buy backs for corporations that receives funds from the gov, but the bill gives the right of the Treasury Secretary to waive that right at his disgresion.....Total BS
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                                          • grease lightnin
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 10-01-12
                                            • 16015

                                            #3311
                                            Yes, Hockey that’s what I am reading
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                                            • homie1975
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 12-24-13
                                              • 15452

                                              #3312
                                              Originally posted by grease lightnin
                                              You have a link on this, homie?
                                              heard it on TV from a reporter on capitol hill who is apparently connected
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                                              • homie1975
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 12-24-13
                                                • 15452

                                                #3313
                                                Originally posted by MinnesotaFats
                                                Senate just rejectrd its bill

                                                Guys theres no deal coming Mon or Tues

                                                Look for another 15% dip mon/ Tues. Dow 1750 by Tuesday (thought it'd come Friday)

                                                If congress doesnt get those checks out there's going to be anarchy by the poor
                                                huge pressure to get this done fast. i think it gets signed late tomorrow (monday night) or first thing tue morning. just my hunch.
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                                                • HockeyRocks
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 07-10-13
                                                  • 6069

                                                  #3314
                                                  Originally posted by grease lightnin
                                                  Yes, Hockey that’s what I am reading
                                                  Amazing isn't it...thinking they would get that by pelosi. remember the Senate needs 60 votes for this to go forward...
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                                                  • homie1975
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 12-24-13
                                                    • 15452

                                                    #3315
                                                    Okay it looks like the Capitol Hill reporter earlier today on TV was full of doo-doo.

                                                    it is the same old story.

                                                    the GOP is trying to push through a bill that takes care of corporations much more than the workers.

                                                    the DEMS are trying to get a bill done that protects the workers much more than the GOP bill does.

                                                    not helping the GOP case is having like 5 senators in self-quarantine incl Rand Paul, Mitt Romney, and Rick Scott.

                                                    they need 60 votes and the senator count right now is 48-47 in favor of GOP.
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                                                    • Mike Huntertz
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 08-19-09
                                                      • 11207

                                                      #3316
                                                      The stimulus program is nothing but rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic!
                                                      The new normal is short any uptick and sell everything.
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                                                      • guitarjosh
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 12-25-07
                                                        • 5774

                                                        #3317
                                                        Originally posted by Mike Huntertz
                                                        The stimulus program is nothing but rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic!
                                                        The new normal is short any uptick and sell everything.
                                                        Bear markets can have massive rallies.
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                                                        • homie1975
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 12-24-13
                                                          • 15452

                                                          #3318
                                                          Originally posted by guitarjosh
                                                          Bear markets can have massive rallies.
                                                          I'll be shocked if this is a V shaped recovery though. The sheer size and breadth of this health crisis has massive tentacles that I think will take the market down and sideways for several mos.
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                                                          • guitarjosh
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 12-25-07
                                                            • 5774

                                                            #3319
                                                            Originally posted by homie1975
                                                            I'll be shocked if this is a V shaped recovery though. The sheer size and breadth of this health crisis has massive tentacles that I think will take the market down and sideways for several mos.
                                                            Sure, but even after the stock market crash of 29 we had a strong rally. In early September 1929, the Dow was at 381.17, the all time high. By the 2nd week of November, we were at 198.69. By Mid April of 1930, it was at 294.07, a nearly 50% increase. Shorting on every uptick in a move like that will leave you bankrupt.
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                                                            • Mike Huntertz
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 08-19-09
                                                              • 11207

                                                              #3320
                                                              We will see, and I hope you're right. That would mean the worst is over.
                                                              I fear that may be a while.
                                                              Stay Safe!

                                                              Originally posted by guitarjosh
                                                              Sure, but even after the stock market crash of 29 we had a strong rally. In early September 1929, the Dow was at 381.17, the all time high. By the 2nd week of November, we were at 198.69. By Mid April of 1930, it was at 294.07, a nearly 50% increase. Shorting on every uptick in a move like that will leave you bankrupt.
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                                                              • Emily_Haines
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 04-14-09
                                                                • 15917

                                                                #3321
                                                                Originally posted by homie1975
                                                                Down 900 now and hit limit down.
                                                                Trump doing a great job!
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                                                                • jjgold
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 07-20-05
                                                                  • 388179

                                                                  #3322
                                                                  It’s not Trump it’s corona
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                                                                  • DoctorStrong
                                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                                    • 12-11-19
                                                                    • 759

                                                                    #3323
                                                                    as soon as they pass the stimulus the market will go up 7%
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                                                                    • Mike Huntertz
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 08-19-09
                                                                      • 11207

                                                                      #3324
                                                                      Originally posted by Emily_Haines
                                                                      Trump doing a great job!
                                                                      When the Japs bombed Pearl Harbour no one said "Roosevelt doing a great job!"
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                                                                      • Sanity Check
                                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                                        • 03-30-13
                                                                        • 10962

                                                                        #3325
                                                                        Incredible how far quality and intelligence of content in this section, declines.

                                                                        With only Trump haters posting.

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