Lost around $34,000 at pinnacle.

[gauchojake]

I just told you guys what happened in post #168 but nobody fukkin listens.

People want to type bro, let them

[calvin34242]

i would say the chances you getting your money back are about as good as jj gold winning 2 games in a row

[Sam Odom]

Merry Christmas !

do they celebrate Christmas in Canada

[calvin34242]

what you need to do is get a bunch of your friends wait til xmas day dress up as santa clause and demand your money back from the pow wow safe

[astro61200]

what you need to do is get a bunch of your friends wait til xmas day dress up as santa clause and demand your money back from the pow wow safe

I'm starting to think this guy has a Santa Clause fetish. First he wants jj to dress up like him, now this.

[Booya711]

I just told you guys what happened in post #168 but nobody fukkin listens.

Greaser - you also post as reigle?

[Jayvegas420]

This happened to me too. I felt the same as the Op. Processors told me it wasn't their fault and it was the books fault and the books told me that it was the processors fault. In the end I never got a dime and instadebit never accepted or claimed responsibility.

Imagine if a local tried to pull this shit.
He'd be outta business In a week.

OP might be fill of but I have a hard time giving the books and processors the benefit of the doubt.

[Sam Odom]

Jay , did your small verification deposit bounce ?

[franklee168]

Greaser - you also post as reigle?

$200.00 for pro status. Strong!

[jjgold]

Booya you broke fukk

take off your football jersey damn

[David Da Huang]

BlowJoe, this isn't some social justice warrior issue that the OP needs you trying to fight for him. Especially from such an ill-informed angle.

If his deposit problem can be resolved and explained satisfactorily then the book should honor his winnings. Doing that would not normally be a problem for you or me. It should not be too difficult for the OP either if he is bona fide.

If he can't then he won't be seeing a cent and should not.

It's not a matter of opinion. This is the way the world works with books.

Things I did:

1.Signup with Pinnacle and Instadebit using my real name, address, and bank account numbers.
2.Deposited $4,825 in a week and received the money immediately into my account.
3. Expected my funds to be cleared in a few business days
4. My first deposit of $25 did not clear.
5. Immediately I explained the situation to Pinnacle and showed proof that I had enough money to cover all the deposits. I also immediately sent in all the necessary documents through BOTH EMAIL AND FAX to Instadebit for them to make the necessary corrections.
6. Pinnacle responded with robotic copy and paste messages from their website.
7. A week past and I received 8 emails stating that all my transactions failed to clear. Now I know Instadebit didn't even bother to make the correction.
8. Because my funds never cleared, Pinnacle voided all my winnings. That is expected of course but I am saddened because I showed proof of my current bank balance prior to my winnings being voided. I had showed them I had enough money in my chequing account to cover all the deposits and I explained the situation to Pinnacle.


MY WHOLE PROBLEM IS HOW DID INSTADEBIT ENTER THE WRONG BANK ACCOUNT INFORMATION WHEN I GAVE THEM THE CORRECT ONE IN THE 1ST PLACE.

[David Da Huang]

Even if INSTADEBIT made a mistake in entering in my bank account information, I gave them a week to make the corrections. Instadebit corrects mistakes within 3 business days...I gave them A WEEK

[RudyRuetigger]

Short odds are this guy purposely transposed a number of the routing or account numbers. Took a shot, with the intention that he would act like it was a mistake if he hit, and then give them the correct info, hoping to collect. And if he lost, the plan was to walk away.

Long odds are that this guy made an honest mistake.

Fire holer is correct that it is strange that this guy emailed his bank account statements and ID's and everything "as a precaution". It is more likely that he only sent instadebit this email with the correct info after he hit pinny for the 34k

I just told you guys what happened in post #168 but nobody fukkin listens.

greaser how many did you drink..thats post 167

[calvin34242]

why didn't instadebit verify your account before they let u keep depositing, they didn't send a few cents to ur bank to confirm ur account, i'm having real problems believing you would be allowed make 9 deposits without your bank account verified from instadebit u said u made 9 deposits in a week so how that can be possible a week go by and your bank account not verified

[RudyRuetigger]

Things I did:

1.Signup with Pinnacle and Instadebit using my real name, address, and bank account numbers.
2.Deposited $4,825 in a week and received the money immediately into my account.
3. Expected my funds to be cleared in a few business days
4. My first deposit of $25 did not clear.
5. Immediately I explained the situation to Pinnacle and showed proof that I had enough money to cover all the deposits. I also immediately sent in all the necessary documents through BOTH EMAIL AND FAX to Instadebit for them to make the necessary corrections.
6. Pinnacle responded with robotic copy and paste messages from their website.
7. A week past and I received 8 emails stating that all my transactions failed to clear. Now I know Instadebit didn't even bother to make the correction.
8. Because my funds never cleared, Pinnacle voided all my winnings. That is expected of course but I am saddened because I showed proof of my current bank balance prior to my winnings being voided. I had showed them I had enough money in my chequing account to cover all the deposits and I explained the situation to Pinnacle.


MY WHOLE PROBLEM IS HOW DID INSTADEBIT ENTER THE WRONG BANK ACCOUNT INFORMATION WHEN I GAVE THEM THE CORRECT ONE IN THE 1ST PLACE.

did sbr give an official reply?

[Optional]

Things I did:

1.Signup with Pinnacle and Instadebit using my real name, address, and bank account numbers.
2.Deposited $4,825 in a week and received the money immediately into my account.
3. Expected my funds to be cleared in a few business days
4. My first deposit of $25 did not clear.
5. Immediately I explained the situation to Pinnacle and showed proof that I had enough money to cover all the deposits. I also immediately sent in all the necessary documents through BOTH EMAIL AND FAX to Instadebit for them to make the necessary corrections.
6. Pinnacle responded with robotic copy and paste messages from their website.
7. A week past and I received 8 emails stating that all my transactions failed to clear. Now I know Instadebit didn't even bother to make the correction.
8. Because my funds never cleared, Pinnacle voided all my winnings. That is expected of course but I am saddened because I showed proof of my current bank balance prior to my winnings being voided. I had showed them I had enough money in my chequing account to cover all the deposits and I explained the situation to Pinnacle.


MY WHOLE PROBLEM IS HOW DID INSTADEBIT ENTER THE WRONG BANK ACCOUNT INFORMATION WHEN I GAVE THEM THE CORRECT ONE IN THE 1ST PLACE.

That all sounds plausible David. And it really does suck big time if you got innocently caught out like this.

Most of my comments in the thread are in response to the poster outraged that Pinny would not pay out and trying to explain why.

Honestly, I think it is too late now to get this turned around. Pinny terms are pretty specific about what happens if they get a NSF.

I am at a loss to understand how Instadebit extend so much credit to an unverified account though. That seems close to negligent to me. Like an invite for potential scammers to take shots.

[calvin34242]

u don't mention anything about this was this done ?????????

Step #3 – Verifying your Bank with Instadebit

After you have filled out the required bank information. Instadebit will want to verify your bank account to make sure it belongs to you. They do this by depositing a small amount of money to the account you registered. this is a amount below $2.00 You will see this deposit in your account within three business days. After the deposit is made, you will need to log into your Instadebit account and tell them how much they deposited to your account. Assuming you enter the correct amount they sent, they know everything is good and your account is now ready to make deposits and withdraws from online sportsbooks of your choice.

[evo34]

i'm still struggling with the fact how u were allowed to make 9 deposits without a successful transaction from ur bank account to the instadebit

This. To everyone elese: Of course both CCs and ACHs can be charged back. That's a known risk and is not the issue here. The issue is why the hell does a company like Instadebit not even bother to verify it has the correct account before handing people money. No non-gaming money transfer company would ever even think of doing something so reckless.

So we're not talking about chargebacks or insuff. funds here. We're talking about failure to ensure account identification was accurate -- the most basic first step of any financial transaction. Baffling, on all fronts.

[calvin34242]

it's pretty much as simple as this if instadebit veryified your account they sent a small amount to ur bank and u confirmed the amount and ur bank was confirmed then u made 9 deposits and there was an issue ok u have a case, if your bank account was never confirmed by instadebit then you have no case and do not deserve the winnings so was it mr green in the living room with the candle stick

[Sam Odom]

David Da Huang already said the small verification deposit BOUNCED

[astro61200]

David Da Huang already said the small verification deposit BOUNCED

Can deposits bounce? I'm operating on 2 hours of sleep but that doesn't seem right.

[David Da Huang]

it's pretty much as simple as this if instadebit veryified your account they sent a small amount to ur bank and u confirmed the amount and ur bank was confirmed then u made 9 deposits and there was an issue ok u have a case, if your bank account was never confirmed by instadebit then you have no case and do not deserve the winnings so was it mr green in the living room with the candle stick

So you are saying it is my fault for giving instadebit the correct bank account information, when Instadebit are the ones that failed to enter the correct bank account details. I did my duty for making it possible for Instadebit to make the deposit in order to verify my account and for all the transactions to go through.

[Jayvegas420]

I found it Very hard to communicate with Instadebit

[jjgold]

whatever it was your not getting paid

Part of technology

[David Da Huang]

So you are saying it is my fault for giving instadebit the correct bank account information, when Instadebit are the ones that failed to enter the correct bank account details. I did my duty for making it possible for Instadebit to make the deposit in order to verify my account and for all the transactions to go through.

If that is the case than honest gamblers are at risk everytime they use a third party, in this case Instadebit. If you lose you still pay them. If you lose and can't pay, your credit rating gets destroyed and you won't be able to get a house, car or a good job. If like in my case you win you don't get anything.

[Sam Odom]

I have not used instadebit before and I told you that the deposit made by Instadebit under $2 used to verify my bank account bounced. But like I said before I took the necessary precautions by sending Instadebit the documents necessary to make my transactions successful.

see ^

[calvin34242]

the instadebit says it takes 2-3 days to verify your account, how were u able to make 9 deposits in a week's time it doesn't add up they aren't going to let you keep making deposits if ur bank info didn't match, the whole point is to get ur bank account verified then start making deposits

[David Da Huang]

see ^

Not my fault if the deposit under $2 bounced if I gave Instadebit the correct bank account information. How do you not get this.

[horja1]

What would have happened if he would have lost all his balance? Would Pinnacle request him to deposit the money to cover the negative balance?

[Sam Odom]

Not my fault if the deposit under $2 bounced if I gave Instadebit the correct bank account information. How do you not get this.

Believe Sammy... Sammy gets this

[Jayvegas420]

Jay , did your small verification deposit bounce ?

No. Verification deposit was good and two or three subsequent deposits were good.

[Sam Odom]

what would have happened if he would have lost all his balance?

he would still be here DEMANDING how to send his $$$ to Pinnacle

[astro61200]

In the event it wasn't the OP's fault then seems that Pinny would be freerolling here. He wins then they just cancel the bets out and they're square. He loses I'd assume Pinny would force him to repay the amount before taking any other action from him.

I need to start a business model like this.

[David Da Huang]

what would have happened if he would have lost all his balance?

They would track me down using my name, address and phone/email and tell me to pay up. If I don't pay they send you to the collections and your credit rating gets destroyed. Which means no house, car or good job for you.

[Jayvegas420]

what would have happened if he would have lost all his balance?

Surely they'd refund the deposits