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  • gauchojake
    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
    • 09-17-10
    • 34117

    #176
    Originally posted by grease lightnin
    I just told you guys what happened in post #168 but nobody fukkin listens.
    People want to type bro, let them
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    • calvin34242
      SBR Sharp
      • 11-17-16
      • 316

      #177
      i would say the chances you getting your money back are about as good as jj gold winning 2 games in a row
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      • Sam Odom
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 10-30-05
        • 58063

        #178
        Merry Christmas !

        do they celebrate Christmas in Canada
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        • calvin34242
          SBR Sharp
          • 11-17-16
          • 316

          #179
          what you need to do is get a bunch of your friends wait til xmas day dress up as santa clause and demand your money back from the pow wow safe
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          • astro61200
            SBR MVP
            • 09-15-07
            • 4843

            #180
            Originally posted by calvin34242
            what you need to do is get a bunch of your friends wait til xmas day dress up as santa clause and demand your money back from the pow wow safe
            I'm starting to think this guy has a Santa Clause fetish. First he wants jj to dress up like him, now this.
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            • Booya711
              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
              • 12-20-11
              • 27329

              #181
              Originally posted by grease lightnin
              I just told you guys what happened in post #168 but nobody fukkin listens.
              Greaser - you also post as reigle?
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              • Jayvegas420
                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                • 03-09-11
                • 28213

                #182
                This happened to me too. I felt the same as the Op. Processors told me it wasn't their fault and it was the books fault and the books told me that it was the processors fault. In the end I never got a dime and instadebit never accepted or claimed responsibility.

                Imagine if a local tried to pull this shit.
                He'd be outta business In a week.

                OP might be fill of but I have a hard time giving the books and processors the benefit of the doubt.
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                • Sam Odom
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 10-30-05
                  • 58063

                  #183
                  Jay , did your small verification deposit bounce ?
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                  • franklee168
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 03-06-11
                    • 5544

                    #184
                    Originally posted by Booya711
                    Greaser - you also post as reigle?
                    $200.00 for pro status. Strong!
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                    • jjgold
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 07-20-05
                      • 388179

                      #185
                      Booya you broke fukk

                      take off your football jersey damn
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                      • David Da Huang
                        SBR Rookie
                        • 12-12-16
                        • 37

                        #186
                        Originally posted by Optional
                        BlowJoe, this isn't some social justice warrior issue that the OP needs you trying to fight for him. Especially from such an ill-informed angle.

                        If his deposit problem can be resolved and explained satisfactorily then the book should honor his winnings. Doing that would not normally be a problem for you or me. It should not be too difficult for the OP either if he is bona fide.

                        If he can't then he won't be seeing a cent and should not.

                        It's not a matter of opinion. This is the way the world works with books.
                        Things I did:

                        1.Signup with Pinnacle and Instadebit using my real name, address, and bank account numbers.
                        2.Deposited $4,825 in a week and received the money immediately into my account.
                        3. Expected my funds to be cleared in a few business days
                        4. My first deposit of $25 did not clear.
                        5. Immediately I explained the situation to Pinnacle and showed proof that I had enough money to cover all the deposits. I also immediately sent in all the necessary documents through BOTH EMAIL AND FAX to Instadebit for them to make the necessary corrections.
                        6. Pinnacle responded with robotic copy and paste messages from their website.
                        7. A week past and I received 8 emails stating that all my transactions failed to clear. Now I know Instadebit didn't even bother to make the correction.
                        8. Because my funds never cleared, Pinnacle voided all my winnings. That is expected of course but I am saddened because I showed proof of my current bank balance prior to my winnings being voided. I had showed them I had enough money in my chequing account to cover all the deposits and I explained the situation to Pinnacle.


                        MY WHOLE PROBLEM IS HOW DID INSTADEBIT ENTER THE WRONG BANK ACCOUNT INFORMATION WHEN I GAVE THEM THE CORRECT ONE IN THE 1ST PLACE.
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                        • David Da Huang
                          SBR Rookie
                          • 12-12-16
                          • 37

                          #187
                          Even if INSTADEBIT made a mistake in entering in my bank account information, I gave them a week to make the corrections. Instadebit corrects mistakes within 3 business days...I gave them A WEEK
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                          • RudyRuetigger
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 08-24-10
                            • 65084

                            #188
                            Originally posted by grease lightnin
                            Short odds are this guy purposely transposed a number of the routing or account numbers. Took a shot, with the intention that he would act like it was a mistake if he hit, and then give them the correct info, hoping to collect. And if he lost, the plan was to walk away.

                            Long odds are that this guy made an honest mistake.

                            Fire holer is correct that it is strange that this guy emailed his bank account statements and ID's and everything "as a precaution". It is more likely that he only sent instadebit this email with the correct info after he hit pinny for the 34k
                            Originally posted by grease lightnin
                            I just told you guys what happened in post #168 but nobody fukkin listens.
                            greaser how many did you drink..thats post 167
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                            • calvin34242
                              SBR Sharp
                              • 11-17-16
                              • 316

                              #189
                              why didn't instadebit verify your account before they let u keep depositing, they didn't send a few cents to ur bank to confirm ur account, i'm having real problems believing you would be allowed make 9 deposits without your bank account verified from instadebit u said u made 9 deposits in a week so how that can be possible a week go by and your bank account not verified
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                              • RudyRuetigger
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 08-24-10
                                • 65084

                                #190
                                Originally posted by David Da Huang
                                Things I did:

                                1.Signup with Pinnacle and Instadebit using my real name, address, and bank account numbers.
                                2.Deposited $4,825 in a week and received the money immediately into my account.
                                3. Expected my funds to be cleared in a few business days
                                4. My first deposit of $25 did not clear.
                                5. Immediately I explained the situation to Pinnacle and showed proof that I had enough money to cover all the deposits. I also immediately sent in all the necessary documents through BOTH EMAIL AND FAX to Instadebit for them to make the necessary corrections.
                                6. Pinnacle responded with robotic copy and paste messages from their website.
                                7. A week past and I received 8 emails stating that all my transactions failed to clear. Now I know Instadebit didn't even bother to make the correction.
                                8. Because my funds never cleared, Pinnacle voided all my winnings. That is expected of course but I am saddened because I showed proof of my current bank balance prior to my winnings being voided. I had showed them I had enough money in my chequing account to cover all the deposits and I explained the situation to Pinnacle.


                                MY WHOLE PROBLEM IS HOW DID INSTADEBIT ENTER THE WRONG BANK ACCOUNT INFORMATION WHEN I GAVE THEM THE CORRECT ONE IN THE 1ST PLACE.
                                did sbr give an official reply?
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                                • Optional
                                  Administrator
                                  • 06-10-10
                                  • 61829

                                  #191
                                  Originally posted by David Da Huang
                                  Things I did:

                                  1.Signup with Pinnacle and Instadebit using my real name, address, and bank account numbers.
                                  2.Deposited $4,825 in a week and received the money immediately into my account.
                                  3. Expected my funds to be cleared in a few business days
                                  4. My first deposit of $25 did not clear.
                                  5. Immediately I explained the situation to Pinnacle and showed proof that I had enough money to cover all the deposits. I also immediately sent in all the necessary documents through BOTH EMAIL AND FAX to Instadebit for them to make the necessary corrections.
                                  6. Pinnacle responded with robotic copy and paste messages from their website.
                                  7. A week past and I received 8 emails stating that all my transactions failed to clear. Now I know Instadebit didn't even bother to make the correction.
                                  8. Because my funds never cleared, Pinnacle voided all my winnings. That is expected of course but I am saddened because I showed proof of my current bank balance prior to my winnings being voided. I had showed them I had enough money in my chequing account to cover all the deposits and I explained the situation to Pinnacle.


                                  MY WHOLE PROBLEM IS HOW DID INSTADEBIT ENTER THE WRONG BANK ACCOUNT INFORMATION WHEN I GAVE THEM THE CORRECT ONE IN THE 1ST PLACE.
                                  That all sounds plausible David. And it really does suck big time if you got innocently caught out like this.

                                  Most of my comments in the thread are in response to the poster outraged that Pinny would not pay out and trying to explain why.

                                  Honestly, I think it is too late now to get this turned around. Pinny terms are pretty specific about what happens if they get a NSF.

                                  I am at a loss to understand how Instadebit extend so much credit to an unverified account though. That seems close to negligent to me. Like an invite for potential scammers to take shots.
                                  .
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                                  • calvin34242
                                    SBR Sharp
                                    • 11-17-16
                                    • 316

                                    #192
                                    u don't mention anything about this was this done ?????????

                                    Step #3 – Verifying your Bank with Instadebit

                                    After you have filled out the required bank information. Instadebit will want to verify your bank account to make sure it belongs to you. They do this by depositing a small amount of money to the account you registered. this is a amount below $2.00 You will see this deposit in your account within three business days. After the deposit is made, you will need to log into your Instadebit account and tell them how much they deposited to your account. Assuming you enter the correct amount they sent, they know everything is good and your account is now ready to make deposits and withdraws from online sportsbooks of your choice.
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                                    • evo34
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 11-09-08
                                      • 1032

                                      #193
                                      Originally posted by calvin34242
                                      i'm still struggling with the fact how u were allowed to make 9 deposits without a successful transaction from ur bank account to the instadebit
                                      This. To everyone elese: Of course both CCs and ACHs can be charged back. That's a known risk and is not the issue here. The issue is why the hell does a company like Instadebit not even bother to verify it has the correct account before handing people money. No non-gaming money transfer company would ever even think of doing something so reckless.

                                      So we're not talking about chargebacks or insuff. funds here. We're talking about failure to ensure account identification was accurate -- the most basic first step of any financial transaction. Baffling, on all fronts.
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                                      • calvin34242
                                        SBR Sharp
                                        • 11-17-16
                                        • 316

                                        #194
                                        it's pretty much as simple as this if instadebit veryified your account they sent a small amount to ur bank and u confirmed the amount and ur bank was confirmed then u made 9 deposits and there was an issue ok u have a case, if your bank account was never confirmed by instadebit then you have no case and do not deserve the winnings so was it mr green in the living room with the candle stick
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                                        • Sam Odom
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 10-30-05
                                          • 58063

                                          #195
                                          David Da Huang already said the small verification deposit BOUNCED
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                                          • astro61200
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 09-15-07
                                            • 4843

                                            #196
                                            Originally posted by Sam Odom
                                            David Da Huang already said the small verification deposit BOUNCED
                                            Can deposits bounce? I'm operating on 2 hours of sleep but that doesn't seem right.
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                                            • David Da Huang
                                              SBR Rookie
                                              • 12-12-16
                                              • 37

                                              #197
                                              Originally posted by calvin34242
                                              it's pretty much as simple as this if instadebit veryified your account they sent a small amount to ur bank and u confirmed the amount and ur bank was confirmed then u made 9 deposits and there was an issue ok u have a case, if your bank account was never confirmed by instadebit then you have no case and do not deserve the winnings so was it mr green in the living room with the candle stick
                                              So you are saying it is my fault for giving instadebit the correct bank account information, when Instadebit are the ones that failed to enter the correct bank account details. I did my duty for making it possible for Instadebit to make the deposit in order to verify my account and for all the transactions to go through.
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                                              • Jayvegas420
                                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                • 03-09-11
                                                • 28213

                                                #198
                                                I found it Very hard to communicate with Instadebit
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                                                • jjgold
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 07-20-05
                                                  • 388179

                                                  #199
                                                  whatever it was your not getting paid

                                                  Part of technology
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                                                  • David Da Huang
                                                    SBR Rookie
                                                    • 12-12-16
                                                    • 37

                                                    #200
                                                    Originally posted by David Da Huang
                                                    So you are saying it is my fault for giving instadebit the correct bank account information, when Instadebit are the ones that failed to enter the correct bank account details. I did my duty for making it possible for Instadebit to make the deposit in order to verify my account and for all the transactions to go through.
                                                    If that is the case than honest gamblers are at risk everytime they use a third party, in this case Instadebit. If you lose you still pay them. If you lose and can't pay, your credit rating gets destroyed and you won't be able to get a house, car or a good job. If like in my case you win you don't get anything.
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                                                    • Sam Odom
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 10-30-05
                                                      • 58063

                                                      #201
                                                      Originally posted by David Da Huang
                                                      I have not used instadebit before and I told you that the deposit made by Instadebit under $2 used to verify my bank account bounced. But like I said before I took the necessary precautions by sending Instadebit the documents necessary to make my transactions successful.

                                                      see ^
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                                                      • calvin34242
                                                        SBR Sharp
                                                        • 11-17-16
                                                        • 316

                                                        #202
                                                        the instadebit says it takes 2-3 days to verify your account, how were u able to make 9 deposits in a week's time it doesn't add up they aren't going to let you keep making deposits if ur bank info didn't match, the whole point is to get ur bank account verified then start making deposits
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                                                        • David Da Huang
                                                          SBR Rookie
                                                          • 12-12-16
                                                          • 37

                                                          #203
                                                          Originally posted by Sam Odom
                                                          see ^
                                                          Not my fault if the deposit under $2 bounced if I gave Instadebit the correct bank account information. How do you not get this.
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                                                          • horja1
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 01-13-11
                                                            • 5646

                                                            #204
                                                            What would have happened if he would have lost all his balance? Would Pinnacle request him to deposit the money to cover the negative balance?
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                                                            • Sam Odom
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 10-30-05
                                                              • 58063

                                                              #205
                                                              Originally posted by David Da Huang
                                                              Not my fault if the deposit under $2 bounced if I gave Instadebit the correct bank account information. How do you not get this.

                                                              Believe Sammy... Sammy gets this
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                                                              • Jayvegas420
                                                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                • 03-09-11
                                                                • 28213

                                                                #206
                                                                Originally posted by Sam Odom
                                                                Jay , did your small verification deposit bounce ?
                                                                No. Verification deposit was good and two or three subsequent deposits were good.
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                                                                • Sam Odom
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 10-30-05
                                                                  • 58063

                                                                  #207
                                                                  Originally posted by horja1
                                                                  what would have happened if he would have lost all his balance?

                                                                  he would still be here DEMANDING how to send his $$$ to Pinnacle
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                                                                  • astro61200
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 09-15-07
                                                                    • 4843

                                                                    #208
                                                                    In the event it wasn't the OP's fault then seems that Pinny would be freerolling here. He wins then they just cancel the bets out and they're square. He loses I'd assume Pinny would force him to repay the amount before taking any other action from him.

                                                                    I need to start a business model like this.
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                                                                    • David Da Huang
                                                                      SBR Rookie
                                                                      • 12-12-16
                                                                      • 37

                                                                      #209
                                                                      Originally posted by horja1
                                                                      what would have happened if he would have lost all his balance?
                                                                      They would track me down using my name, address and phone/email and tell me to pay up. If I don't pay they send you to the collections and your credit rating gets destroyed. Which means no house, car or good job for you.
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                                                                      • Jayvegas420
                                                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                        • 03-09-11
                                                                        • 28213

                                                                        #210
                                                                        Originally posted by horja1
                                                                        what would have happened if he would have lost all his balance?
                                                                        Surely they'd refund the deposits
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