Jackson isn't that bad but it might be a little shaky if he has some trouble passing, peterson is going to tget beat up..
that is if Peterson doesnt fumble..
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JW Cash
SBR MVP
12-31-08
4453
#37
Originally posted by MJFtheGenius
not as good as people say but one of the greats
only great about Favre is that he somehow managed to escape injury..
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JW Cash
SBR MVP
12-31-08
4453
#38
Originally posted by JayTrotter
go ahead and rip on Favre. he's a man, he's 40...
Go ahead...Defend this incredulous hillbilly that fumbles and throws
INT in big games to cost his team..
Go ahead Jay...defend this has-been
How classless this clown has been with this whole retirement
gimmick the last few years....
He should be inducted to the NFL Hall of SHAME....
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icancount2one
SBR MVP
01-05-10
1507
#39
The ability to show up every Sunday and perform at a high level for as long as he has is an incredible feat for which Favre will no doubt end up in the hall of fame. Sure he has fewer rings than a lot of the guys you mentioned, but he has one more than Dan Marino. A lot of the time the number of rings you have depends more on the team than the QB. He's won and lost a lot of games by being bold/stupid.
The reason people are on his jock as the "greatest of all time" is that they identify with Brett. Everyone keeps telling him he's too old, but he just keeps going out there and hammering away. Green Bay tried to replace him with some kid (never mind this kid may end up with more rings and definitely a better lifetime passer rating by far), and he went out there and beat them twice to show them he still had it. He's THE icon of male wish fulfillment for rural white men in their late thirties and on, aka the NFLs most rabid (and wealthy) fan base. He's the family man with the attractive wife who would prefer a hard day riding his tractor over a night out clubbin' it. It's the persona that Favre idolizers are in love with, not the reality of his performance as an NFL QB.
There's a lot about Favre that makes him a legend. I just wish he hadn't tarnished it by snubbing his team, playing prima donna, and abusing the retirement rules. I'm sure that to many people, however, that stuff will be just a footnote when you consider the whole of his career.
As it is, he'll might just un-retire when the preseason starts or next year and keep this sad saga going. It was only a matter of time before a team came after him hard like the Saints did, frankly I was amazed that more teams didn't blitz hard with the idea of "knock grandpa on his ass however you can".
Originally posted by JayTrotter
go ahead and rip on Favre. he's a man, he's 40...
lol nice. I keep thinking about that every time they bring up Favre being 40.
Walter forgot... when you're desperate's when you got no choice.
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JW Cash
SBR MVP
12-31-08
4453
#40
Originally posted by icancount2one
The ability to show up every Sunday and perform at a high level for as long as he has is an incredible feat for which Favre will no doubt end up in the hall of fame. Sure he has fewer rings than a lot of the guys you mentioned, but he has one more than Dan Marino. A lot of the time the number of rings you have depends more on the team than the QB. He's won and lost a lot of games by being bold/stupid.
The reason people are on his jock as the "greatest of all time" is that they identify with Brett. Everyone keeps telling him he's too old, but he just keeps going out there and hammering away. Green Bay tried to replace him with some kid (never mind this kid may end up with more rings and definitely a better lifetime passer rating by far), and he went out there and beat them twice to show them he still had it. He's THE icon of male wish fulfillment for rural white men in their late thirties and on, aka the NFLs most rabid (and wealthy) fan base. He's the family man with the attractive wife who would prefer a hard day riding his tractor over a night out clubbin' it. It's the persona that Favre idolizers are in love with, not the reality of his performance as an NFL QB.
There's a lot about Favre that makes him a legend. I just wish he hadn't tarnished it by snubbing his team, playing prima donna, and abusing the retirement rules. I'm sure that to many people, however, that stuff will be just a footnote when you consider the whole of his career.
As it is, he'll might just un-retire when the preseason starts or next year and keep this sad saga going. It was only a matter of time before a team came after him hard like the Saints did, frankly I was amazed that more teams didn't blitz hard with the idea of "knock grandpa on his ass however you can".
lol nice. I keep thinking about that every time they bring up Favre being 40.
Good post my friend....
But Favre is not a big game quarterback...
And to be honest...Packer defense w/ Reggie White had more
to do with the only Super Bowl win than Favre did...
And BTW.....
If everything you wrote in your post was important and relevent..
I think the litmus test would have been when he went back to Lambeau
Field last year in a Viking uniform...
For almost 20 years he was revered in GB..he was GOD..he was Mr Everything..
even when he was losing playing games.....GB fans still forgave him
They literally LOVED Brett Favre.....
Now I understand the conditions upon which it happened....
but this ICON in GB history....
when he came back to Lambeau last year....
The fans LOUDLY and FEROCIOUSLY booed his sorry ass.....
A man supposedly to be GREAT was treated as a classless man
without character when he came back to the place he once
viewed as utopia....
That, to me....says a lot....
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Wrecktangle
SBR MVP
03-01-09
1524
#41
The fact that all the media is focused on him at age 40 as to whether he'll play tells you how much he means to the game.
I want to see him back, I watched him with Green Bay, and with the Jets, and with Minny.
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thebertshow
SBR Wise Guy
08-30-07
645
#42
Brett Favre is one of the best players of all time. Too bad he has to be such a drama queen.
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Daveyboy
SBR MVP
05-12-10
1317
#43
What team are you, Cash? Detroit? Chicago? I bet Favre won more games in his 19 years than those 2 combined Favre's numbers are amongst the elite. His "most ever interceptions" is paying respect to his longevity more than anything else. To answer your question, yes Brett Favre was really that great. Took hits more than any other QB could take, and he got up. Had a bullet of an arm and put touch on it too. Remember when he tore the Superbowl-bound Raiders on MNF? A perfect QB rating I believe.
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frankzig
SBR MVP
10-26-09
2268
#44
pretty good for a active 40yo
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Darkside Magick
SBR Posting Legend
05-28-10
12638
#45
one of the most overrated players of the modern age!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Grind House
SBR MVP
01-01-10
1405
#46
Favre's a bitch.
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texan13
SBR Rookie
06-28-10
49
#47
much better than all other Vikings QBs combined
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JW Cash
SBR MVP
12-31-08
4453
#48
Originally posted by Wrecktangle
The fact that all the media is focused on him at age 40 as to whether he'll play tells you how much he means to the game.
I want to see him back, I watched him with Green Bay, and with the Jets, and with Minny.
If anyone other QB did that...media would be following his ass just as well..
coz its not about sports now...
its a soap opera...its about a flaky guy who got hit in the head
too many times and now doesnt know if he's coming or going...
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nobs
Restricted User
08-31-09
4216
#49
People love him because he looks like an average guy, so many NFL and NBA players when you see them they are dressed nice, have a lot of "bling" on, drive around in $100,000+ vehicles.
Farve looks like some guy working down at the factory making $12 an hour. When people see other NFL players they are reminded that these guys make 10,000 times what they do, when they see Farve they think he is just like me. Guy wears Rustler Jeans, those jeans cost like $15 a pair. I wouldnt be caught dead in Rustler Jeans.
Thats why he is so overrated. He didnt do shit through the first 10 years of his career, didnt even usually make then playoffs. Then in 1996, his only superbowl year he had such a great team that proabbaly half the QB's imn the NFL would have won the Sb that year.
He had a great defense, great recievers, great offensive line, etc. He was on the best team, thats why he won.
I remember the eagles playoff game so well. I had Eagles ML for a shitload and late in the game, I knew my only chance was a farve INT. I said please please please FARVE if you throw an INT right now, I will come to Philly and suck your balls. right then he threw an INT. I couldnt believe it ( well yeah its not that hard to believe). I never went to Philly.
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JW Cash
SBR MVP
12-31-08
4453
#50
Originally posted by Daveyboy
What team are you, Cash? Detroit? Chicago? I bet Favre won more games in his 19 years than those 2 combined Favre's numbers are amongst the elite. His "most ever interceptions" is paying respect to his longevity more than anything else. To answer your question, yes Brett Favre was really that great. Took hits more than any other QB could take, and he got up. Had a bullet of an arm and put touch on it too. Remember when he tore the Superbowl-bound Raiders on MNF? A perfect QB rating I believe.
Winning games in the regular season...means
you get a chance to see what you can do when
the REAL pressure is situated on every play
in the playoffs...Championships are at stake..
Can you MAN up and take it to another level..
Can you be GREAT...
Some GREAT QB's have met that challenge over
and over again....Montana, Elway, Brady...
Favre doesnt come close....
Favre's playoff record is a mediocre 11-10....
The Stuff of Legends??????
C'mom.......
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JW Cash
SBR MVP
12-31-08
4453
#51
Originally posted by Daveyboy
What team are you, Cash? Detroit? Chicago? I bet Favre won more games in his 19 years than those 2 combined Favre's numbers are amongst the elite. His "most ever interceptions" is paying respect to his longevity more than anything else. To answer your question, yes Brett Favre was really that great. Took hits more than any other QB could take, and he got up. Had a bullet of an arm and put touch on it too. Remember when he tore the Superbowl-bound Raiders on MNF? A perfect QB rating I believe.
Oh give me a break..
His most INT's is due to his longevity ????
His most INT'S is due to the fact he couldnt hit his ass with either
hand in those games...
He could have been in 3 more Super Bowls...but threw INT's to end that fairy tale..
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JW Cash
SBR MVP
12-31-08
4453
#52
Originally posted by frankzig
pretty good for a active 40yo
look at the team he played with last year...look
at the receivers he had to throw to.....
When the Favre monster played with the mediocre Jets...Favre
was his old mediocre self....
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JW Cash
SBR MVP
12-31-08
4453
#53
Originally posted by texan13
much better than all other Vikings QBs combined
What the hell does that have to do with the theory that Favre should
be worthy of " legend status "
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gryfyn1
SBR MVP
03-30-10
3285
#54
--Well 1st anyone who judges a football player by the number of Superbowls they win is profoundly ignorant, unless your saying that that Mark Rypien and Trent Dilfer are better QBS than Dan Marino and Dan Fouts ..
-- Yes Favre is an exrtemely good QB, as show by his 3 MVPs, 6 times AP 1st team all-pro, But his number are balloned by an extremely long career
-- While Favre does have a losing record in the playoffs (11-13) he's also been in the playoffs, alot. and his post season numbers a very good, 60cmp%, 7.5 y/a 44TD 30INT, and his Super boel number even better (39/69 502 yrds, 5/1 TD/INT)
All that said i dislike Favre for his attitude and drama queen style- but to deny how good he's been because of that is allowing you feeling to blind you judgement.
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Fishhead
SBR Aristocracy
08-11-05
40179
#55
Far and away greatest in my lifetime.........not close.
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Cappy
SBR Wise Guy
07-26-08
784
#56
Yes he is, a quarterback doesn't win superbowls for you, the team does that, but at being a quarterback, Brett Favre is great
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Cappy
SBR Wise Guy
07-26-08
784
#57
Originally posted by texan13
much better than all other Vikings QBs combined
You're an idiot
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mlb
SBR Posting Legend
12-04-09
10509
#58
A. I don't consider Roethlisberger to have greatness cuz he has won 2 super bowls...
B. ticking time bombs don't disintegrate...
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jimmy lytle
Restricted User
02-11-10
78
#59
brett favre is a good player but my question is his bills paid
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jimmy lytle
Restricted User
02-11-10
78
#60
brett favre is a good player but my question is his bills paid
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Wrecktangle
SBR MVP
03-01-09
1524
#61
let see: offer is $12Mil. "I think I'll retire"
Offer is $20Mil. "Maybe I'll play"
Maybe I see a pattern.
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bruceBRUCEbruce
SBR MVP
06-20-09
2560
#62
Originally posted by Darkside Magick
one of the most overrated players of the modern age!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Brett Favre is the most overrated player in the history of football.
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JoeB
SBR High Roller
05-13-10
122
#63
he should have retired when he had a chance...
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Cappy
SBR Wise Guy
07-26-08
784
#64
He's still the shit, nobody can say much else
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JW Cash
SBR MVP
12-31-08
4453
#65
Originally posted by Cappy
He's still the shit, nobody can say much else
I think a lot of people are " saying much else "
Just re-read the thread....
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lakerboy
SBR Aristocracy
04-02-09
94379
#66
Favre is a great regular season QB. His superbowl winning team was an outstanding team and the following year he lost as the clear favorite versus a Denver team they should have beat.
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lakerboy
SBR Aristocracy
04-02-09
94379
#67
Originally posted by Daveyboy
What team are you, Cash? Detroit? Chicago? I bet Favre won more games in his 19 years than those 2 combined Favre's numbers are amongst the elite. His "most ever interceptions" is paying respect to his longevity more than anything else. To answer your question, yes Brett Favre was really that great. Took hits more than any other QB could take, and he got up. Had a bullet of an arm and put touch on it too. Remember when he tore the Superbowl-bound Raiders on MNF? A perfect QB rating I believe.
LMAO that Raider team finished 4-12. Do you know anything about football?
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JW Cash
SBR MVP
12-31-08
4453
#68
Originally posted by lakerboy
Favre is a great regular season QB. His superbowl winning team was an outstanding team and the following year he lost as the clear favorite versus a Denver team they should have beat.
Remember that 4th down pass at the end of the Denver Super Bowl game...
It looked like Favre had no idea who should get the ball when he threw it....looked
like a high school play rather a critical " must have " play in the
Championship Game.
But that was a typical Favre play when the money was on the line.....
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lakerboy
SBR Aristocracy
04-02-09
94379
#69
Originally posted by JW Cash
Remember that 4th down pass at the end of the Denver Super Bowl game...
It looked like Favre had no idea who should get the ball when he threw it....looked
like a high school play rather a critical " must have " play in the
Championship Game.
But that was a typical Favre play when the money was on the line.....
yup unless its the regular season favre will almost always fukk up in the end. i dont think people remember but bringing reggie white was the reason gb won the superbowl they won. his presence alone transformed that franchise.
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jpete1966
SBR Sharp
09-14-09
347
#70
Favre got those teams to the last three NFC championship games. The Vikings would have been nowhere near the Superbowl last year if it wasn't for Favre. They had a majority of the same players there before Favre got there and could do nothing with them. He definitely makes the wrong decision at the worst possible times though. If he doesn't come back to redeem himself this year those interceptions in the NFC championship games will haunt him for the rest of his life.