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  • JW Cash
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    • 12-31-08
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    #36
    Originally posted by nbt3428
    Jackson isn't that bad but it might be a little shaky if he has some trouble passing, peterson is going to tget beat up..


    that is if Peterson doesnt fumble..
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    • JW Cash
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      #37
      Originally posted by MJFtheGenius
      not as good as people say but one of the greats


      only great about Favre is that he somehow managed to escape injury..
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      • JW Cash
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        #38
        Originally posted by JayTrotter
        go ahead and rip on Favre. he's a man, he's 40...



        Go ahead...Defend this incredulous hillbilly that fumbles and throws
        INT in big games to cost his team..


        Go ahead Jay...defend this has-been

        How classless this clown has been with this whole retirement
        gimmick the last few years....

        He should be inducted to the NFL Hall of SHAME....
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        • icancount2one
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          #39
          The ability to show up every Sunday and perform at a high level for as long as he has is an incredible feat for which Favre will no doubt end up in the hall of fame. Sure he has fewer rings than a lot of the guys you mentioned, but he has one more than Dan Marino. A lot of the time the number of rings you have depends more on the team than the QB. He's won and lost a lot of games by being bold/stupid.

          The reason people are on his jock as the "greatest of all time" is that they identify with Brett. Everyone keeps telling him he's too old, but he just keeps going out there and hammering away. Green Bay tried to replace him with some kid (never mind this kid may end up with more rings and definitely a better lifetime passer rating by far), and he went out there and beat them twice to show them he still had it. He's THE icon of male wish fulfillment for rural white men in their late thirties and on, aka the NFLs most rabid (and wealthy) fan base. He's the family man with the attractive wife who would prefer a hard day riding his tractor over a night out clubbin' it. It's the persona that Favre idolizers are in love with, not the reality of his performance as an NFL QB.

          There's a lot about Favre that makes him a legend. I just wish he hadn't tarnished it by snubbing his team, playing prima donna, and abusing the retirement rules. I'm sure that to many people, however, that stuff will be just a footnote when you consider the whole of his career.

          As it is, he'll might just un-retire when the preseason starts or next year and keep this sad saga going. It was only a matter of time before a team came after him hard like the Saints did, frankly I was amazed that more teams didn't blitz hard with the idea of "knock grandpa on his ass however you can".

          Originally posted by JayTrotter
          go ahead and rip on Favre. he's a man, he's 40...
          lol nice. I keep thinking about that every time they bring up Favre being 40.
          Walter forgot... when you're desperate's when you got no choice.
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          • JW Cash
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            #40
            Originally posted by icancount2one
            The ability to show up every Sunday and perform at a high level for as long as he has is an incredible feat for which Favre will no doubt end up in the hall of fame. Sure he has fewer rings than a lot of the guys you mentioned, but he has one more than Dan Marino. A lot of the time the number of rings you have depends more on the team than the QB. He's won and lost a lot of games by being bold/stupid.

            The reason people are on his jock as the "greatest of all time" is that they identify with Brett. Everyone keeps telling him he's too old, but he just keeps going out there and hammering away. Green Bay tried to replace him with some kid (never mind this kid may end up with more rings and definitely a better lifetime passer rating by far), and he went out there and beat them twice to show them he still had it. He's THE icon of male wish fulfillment for rural white men in their late thirties and on, aka the NFLs most rabid (and wealthy) fan base. He's the family man with the attractive wife who would prefer a hard day riding his tractor over a night out clubbin' it. It's the persona that Favre idolizers are in love with, not the reality of his performance as an NFL QB.

            There's a lot about Favre that makes him a legend. I just wish he hadn't tarnished it by snubbing his team, playing prima donna, and abusing the retirement rules. I'm sure that to many people, however, that stuff will be just a footnote when you consider the whole of his career.

            As it is, he'll might just un-retire when the preseason starts or next year and keep this sad saga going. It was only a matter of time before a team came after him hard like the Saints did, frankly I was amazed that more teams didn't blitz hard with the idea of "knock grandpa on his ass however you can".



            lol nice. I keep thinking about that every time they bring up Favre being 40.


            Good post my friend....

            But Favre is not a big game quarterback...

            And to be honest...Packer defense w/ Reggie White had more
            to do with the only Super Bowl win than Favre did...

            And BTW.....

            If everything you wrote in your post was important and relevent..

            I think the litmus test would have been when he went back to Lambeau
            Field last year in a Viking uniform...

            For almost 20 years he was revered in GB..he was GOD..he was Mr Everything..

            even when he was losing playing games.....GB fans still forgave him
            They literally LOVED Brett Favre.....

            Now I understand the conditions upon which it happened....

            but this ICON in GB history....

            when he came back to Lambeau last year....

            The fans LOUDLY and FEROCIOUSLY booed his sorry ass.....

            A man supposedly to be GREAT was treated as a classless man
            without character when he came back to the place he once
            viewed as utopia....

            That, to me....says a lot....
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            • Wrecktangle
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              • 03-01-09
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              #41
              The fact that all the media is focused on him at age 40 as to whether he'll play tells you how much he means to the game.

              I want to see him back, I watched him with Green Bay, and with the Jets, and with Minny.
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              • thebertshow
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                • 08-30-07
                • 645

                #42
                Brett Favre is one of the best players of all time. Too bad he has to be such a drama queen.
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                • Daveyboy
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                  #43
                  What team are you, Cash? Detroit? Chicago? I bet Favre won more games in his 19 years than those 2 combined Favre's numbers are amongst the elite. His "most ever interceptions" is paying respect to his longevity more than anything else. To answer your question, yes Brett Favre was really that great. Took hits more than any other QB could take, and he got up. Had a bullet of an arm and put touch on it too. Remember when he tore the Superbowl-bound Raiders on MNF? A perfect QB rating I believe.
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                  • frankzig
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                    • 10-26-09
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                    #44
                    pretty good for a active 40yo
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                    • Darkside Magick
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                      • 05-28-10
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                      #45
                      one of the most overrated players of the modern age!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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                      • Grind House
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                        • 01-01-10
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                        #46
                        Favre's a bitch.
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                        • texan13
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                          • 06-28-10
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                          #47
                          much better than all other Vikings QBs combined
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                          • JW Cash
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                            #48
                            Originally posted by Wrecktangle
                            The fact that all the media is focused on him at age 40 as to whether he'll play tells you how much he means to the game.

                            I want to see him back, I watched him with Green Bay, and with the Jets, and with Minny.

                            Thats BS

                            They focus on him only cause Favre

                            Retired
                            Unretired
                            retired
                            Unretired
                            retired
                            unretired

                            Who else has done that..

                            If anyone other QB did that...media would be following his ass just as well..
                            coz its not about sports now...

                            its a soap opera...its about a flaky guy who got hit in the head
                            too many times and now doesnt know if he's coming or going...
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                            • nobs
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                              • 08-31-09
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                              #49
                              People love him because he looks like an average guy, so many NFL and NBA players when you see them they are dressed nice, have a lot of "bling" on, drive around in $100,000+ vehicles.

                              Farve looks like some guy working down at the factory making $12 an hour. When people see other NFL players they are reminded that these guys make 10,000 times what they do, when they see Farve they think he is just like me. Guy wears Rustler Jeans, those jeans cost like $15 a pair. I wouldnt be caught dead in Rustler Jeans.

                              Thats why he is so overrated. He didnt do shit through the first 10 years of his career, didnt even usually make then playoffs. Then in 1996, his only superbowl year he had such a great team that proabbaly half the QB's imn the NFL would have won the Sb that year.

                              He had a great defense, great recievers, great offensive line, etc. He was on the best team, thats why he won.


                              I remember the eagles playoff game so well. I had Eagles ML for a shitload and late in the game, I knew my only chance was a farve INT. I said please please please FARVE if you throw an INT right now, I will come to Philly and suck your balls. right then he threw an INT. I couldnt believe it ( well yeah its not that hard to believe). I never went to Philly.
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                              • JW Cash
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                                #50
                                Originally posted by Daveyboy
                                What team are you, Cash? Detroit? Chicago? I bet Favre won more games in his 19 years than those 2 combined Favre's numbers are amongst the elite. His "most ever interceptions" is paying respect to his longevity more than anything else. To answer your question, yes Brett Favre was really that great. Took hits more than any other QB could take, and he got up. Had a bullet of an arm and put touch on it too. Remember when he tore the Superbowl-bound Raiders on MNF? A perfect QB rating I believe.

                                Winning games in the regular season...means
                                you get a chance to see what you can do when
                                the REAL pressure is situated on every play
                                in the playoffs...Championships are at stake..

                                Can you MAN up and take it to another level..

                                Can you be GREAT...

                                Some GREAT QB's have met that challenge over
                                and over again....Montana, Elway, Brady...

                                Favre doesnt come close....

                                Favre's playoff record is a mediocre 11-10....

                                The Stuff of Legends??????

                                C'mom.......
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                                • JW Cash
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                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by Daveyboy
                                  What team are you, Cash? Detroit? Chicago? I bet Favre won more games in his 19 years than those 2 combined Favre's numbers are amongst the elite. His "most ever interceptions" is paying respect to his longevity more than anything else. To answer your question, yes Brett Favre was really that great. Took hits more than any other QB could take, and he got up. Had a bullet of an arm and put touch on it too. Remember when he tore the Superbowl-bound Raiders on MNF? A perfect QB rating I believe.



                                  Oh give me a break..

                                  His most INT's is due to his longevity ????

                                  His most INT'S is due to the fact he couldnt hit his ass with either
                                  hand in those games...

                                  He could have been in 3 more Super Bowls...but threw INT's to end that fairy tale..
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                                  • JW Cash
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                                    #52
                                    Originally posted by frankzig
                                    pretty good for a active 40yo



                                    look at the team he played with last year...look
                                    at the receivers he had to throw to.....


                                    When the Favre monster played with the mediocre Jets...Favre
                                    was his old mediocre self....
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                                    • JW Cash
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                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by texan13
                                      much better than all other Vikings QBs combined



                                      What the hell does that have to do with the theory that Favre should
                                      be worthy of " legend status "
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                                      • gryfyn1
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                                        #54
                                        --Well 1st anyone who judges a football player by the number of Superbowls they win is profoundly ignorant, unless your saying that that Mark Rypien and Trent Dilfer are better QBS than Dan Marino and Dan Fouts ..

                                        -- Yes Favre is an exrtemely good QB, as show by his 3 MVPs, 6 times AP 1st team all-pro, But his number are balloned by an extremely long career

                                        -- While Favre does have a losing record in the playoffs (11-13) he's also been in the playoffs, alot. and his post season numbers a very good, 60cmp%, 7.5 y/a 44TD 30INT, and his Super boel number even better (39/69 502 yrds, 5/1 TD/INT)


                                        All that said i dislike Favre for his attitude and drama queen style- but to deny how good he's been because of that is allowing you feeling to blind you judgement.
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                                        • Fishhead
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                                          • 08-11-05
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                                          #55
                                          Far and away greatest in my lifetime.........not close.
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                                          • Cappy
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                                            • 07-26-08
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                                            #56
                                            Yes he is, a quarterback doesn't win superbowls for you, the team does that, but at being a quarterback, Brett Favre is great
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                                            • Cappy
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                                              • 07-26-08
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                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by texan13
                                              much better than all other Vikings QBs combined
                                              You're an idiot
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                                              • mlb
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                                                • 12-04-09
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                                                #58
                                                A. I don't consider Roethlisberger to have greatness cuz he has won 2 super bowls...

                                                B. ticking time bombs don't disintegrate...
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                                                • jimmy lytle
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                                                  #59
                                                  brett favre is a good player but my question is his bills paid
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                                                  • jimmy lytle
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                                                    #60
                                                    brett favre is a good player but my question is his bills paid
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                                                    • Wrecktangle
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                                                      #61
                                                      let see: offer is $12Mil. "I think I'll retire"

                                                      Offer is $20Mil. "Maybe I'll play"

                                                      Maybe I see a pattern.
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                                                      • bruceBRUCEbruce
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                                                        #62
                                                        Originally posted by Darkside Magick
                                                        one of the most overrated players of the modern age!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
                                                        Brett Favre is the most overrated player in the history of football.
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                                                        • JoeB
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                                                          • 05-13-10
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                                                          #63
                                                          he should have retired when he had a chance...
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                                                          • Cappy
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                                                            • 07-26-08
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                                                            #64
                                                            He's still the shit, nobody can say much else
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                                                            • JW Cash
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                                                              #65
                                                              Originally posted by Cappy
                                                              He's still the shit, nobody can say much else




                                                              I think a lot of people are " saying much else "

                                                              Just re-read the thread....
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                                                              • lakerboy
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                                                                • 04-02-09
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                                                                #66
                                                                Favre is a great regular season QB. His superbowl winning team was an outstanding team and the following year he lost as the clear favorite versus a Denver team they should have beat.
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                                                                • lakerboy
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                                                                  • 04-02-09
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                                                                  #67
                                                                  Originally posted by Daveyboy
                                                                  What team are you, Cash? Detroit? Chicago? I bet Favre won more games in his 19 years than those 2 combined Favre's numbers are amongst the elite. His "most ever interceptions" is paying respect to his longevity more than anything else. To answer your question, yes Brett Favre was really that great. Took hits more than any other QB could take, and he got up. Had a bullet of an arm and put touch on it too. Remember when he tore the Superbowl-bound Raiders on MNF? A perfect QB rating I believe.



                                                                  LMAO that Raider team finished 4-12. Do you know anything about football?
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                                                                  • JW Cash
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                                                                    #68
                                                                    Originally posted by lakerboy
                                                                    Favre is a great regular season QB. His superbowl winning team was an outstanding team and the following year he lost as the clear favorite versus a Denver team they should have beat.



                                                                    Remember that 4th down pass at the end of the Denver Super Bowl game...

                                                                    It looked like Favre had no idea who should get the ball when he threw it....looked
                                                                    like a high school play rather a critical " must have " play in the
                                                                    Championship Game.

                                                                    But that was a typical Favre play when the money was on the line.....
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                                                                    • lakerboy
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                                                                      • 04-02-09
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                                                                      #69
                                                                      Originally posted by JW Cash
                                                                      Remember that 4th down pass at the end of the Denver Super Bowl game...

                                                                      It looked like Favre had no idea who should get the ball when he threw it....looked
                                                                      like a high school play rather a critical " must have " play in the
                                                                      Championship Game.

                                                                      But that was a typical Favre play when the money was on the line.....

                                                                      yup unless its the regular season favre will almost always fukk up in the end. i dont think people remember but bringing reggie white was the reason gb won the superbowl they won. his presence alone transformed that franchise.
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                                                                      • jpete1966
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                                                                        • 09-14-09
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                                                                        #70
                                                                        Favre got those teams to the last three NFC championship games. The Vikings would have been nowhere near the Superbowl last year if it wasn't for Favre. They had a majority of the same players there before Favre got there and could do nothing with them. He definitely makes the wrong decision at the worst possible times though. If he doesn't come back to redeem himself this year those interceptions in the NFC championship games will haunt him for the rest of his life.
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