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  • WINGZ
    SBR High Roller
    • 09-09-09
    • 186

    #141
    Yes he IS that great....but.....his ego has bit him in da azz in the NFC championship games (i.e. that uncalled for interception which led to loss last year!!!). If he stops trying to grab headlines in big games there is no stopping him, but he loves headlines. Why else would he retire year after year?
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    • slacker00
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 10-06-05
      • 12262

      #142
      Elway won his Super Bowls in his lowest output years. It's not about greatness, it's about team in the NFL.
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      • JW Cash
        SBR MVP
        • 12-31-08
        • 4453

        #143
        I called the Viking training camp headquarters today and offered my services....told
        them i would be willing to go to the airport and pick Favre up when he flys in on
        his private jet......

        That way, Chili can stay at camp and spend his valuable time on devising offensive plays
        for Favre to use in the upcoming season......
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        • PAI
          SBR Rookie
          • 09-20-09
          • 36

          #144
          Favre Good, Not Great

          With all due respect, Brett Favre is a compiler. He has had a nice career. However, he is not the greatest ever. He is not even in the top 5. Is he better than Peyton Manning? Joe Montana? Tom Brady? You have to have Super Bowls - notice the "s." Exceptions can be made for the Peyton Mannings and Dan Marinos. Favre has far too many INTs. I use to bash Manning because he was being anointed the greatest ever by the media without winning consistently in the playoffs. Very good signal caller, but at the end of the day, he could not lead his team to victories against the Patriots in the playoffs. I like QB's that consistently win when the games matter most. My top QB's are Montana, Bradshaw, and Brady. Other QB's have better season stats, but you play to win Super Bowls. Trent Dilfer is a garbage QB with a ring, of course he is not better than Marino, Moon, etc. I had to say that to avoid that conversation getting started.
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          • JW Cash
            SBR MVP
            • 12-31-08
            • 4453

            #145
            Farve........where the hell are you......

            Pigskins are starting to fly thru the air.........

            We need ya buddy......please....
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            • Dr.Gonzo
              SBR MVP
              • 12-05-09
              • 4660

              #146
              Originally posted by PAI
              With all due respect, Brett Favre is a compiler. He has had a nice career. However, he is not the greatest ever. He is not even in the top 5. Is he better than Peyton Manning? Joe Montana? Tom Brady? You have to have Super Bowls - notice the "s." Exceptions can be made for the Peyton Mannings and Dan Marinos. Favre has far too many INTs. I use to bash Manning because he was being anointed the greatest ever by the media without winning consistently in the playoffs. Very good signal caller, but at the end of the day, he could not lead his team to victories against the Patriots in the playoffs. I like QB's that consistently win when the games matter most. My top QB's are Montana, Bradshaw, and Brady. Other QB's have better season stats, but you play to win Super Bowls. Trent Dilfer is a garbage QB with a ring, of course he is not better than Marino, Moon, etc. I had to say that to avoid that conversation getting started.
              If that is what matters Ben Cheeseburger has to be right up there.
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              • pmidy88
                Restricted User
                • 07-17-10
                • 220

                #147
                yeah he is period
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                • JW Cash
                  SBR MVP
                  • 12-31-08
                  • 4453

                  #148
                  The Favre Monster is back in Minneapolis and I dont think he is here
                  to see the White Sox battle the Twins for the division lead...

                  He will probably head back to the Vikings....play some games...throw some TD's and throw
                  a lot more INT's....completely suck a$$ in a playoff game ..and collect millions of dollars and then
                  fly back to Mississippi...

                  What more could a hillbilly want ?????
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                  • Cappy
                    SBR Wise Guy
                    • 07-26-08
                    • 784

                    #149
                    I think you have to consider him top 10 all time
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                    • Chris7mccabe
                      SBR High Roller
                      • 08-13-10
                      • 188

                      #150
                      He is that great and he most certainly is a top 10 of all time. This doesn't mean that he isn't a piece of shit and that he isn't tarnishing his reputation but hey he obv doesn't care so screw him.
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                      • JW Cash
                        SBR MVP
                        • 12-31-08
                        • 4453

                        #151
                        Best thing Favre can do is help teach the new young vike QB Jim Bell a few things...
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                        • jolmscheid
                          Restricted User
                          • 02-20-10
                          • 3256

                          #152
                          Well jw it looks like us minnesotans have a little more hope this season...although I don't think favre will be nearly as good
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                          • Stinger
                            SBR Wise Guy
                            • 07-31-10
                            • 918

                            #153
                            Yes
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                            • stefan084
                              SBR MVP
                              • 07-21-09
                              • 1490

                              #154
                              tired of his drama-play or don't. to leave the team hanging every year is a dick move imo
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                              • makaveli66
                                SBR MVP
                                • 03-13-10
                                • 1868

                                #155
                                Originally posted by JW Cash
                                Best thing Favre can do is help teach the new young vike QB Jim Bell a few things...
                                You don't know that. You would have said the same thing last year and look how far he led the Vikings last year.
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                                • BookieOweMe
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 05-01-10
                                  • 2106

                                  #156
                                  he has proven himself plenty of times
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                                  • JayTrotter
                                    SBR Sharp
                                    • 03-27-10
                                    • 320

                                    #157
                                    Thank Jerry Glanville! According to him, if he had not kicked him out of Atlanta, farve would still be drunk at the end of one of the fine establishments in that fine city. greatness usually comes with heavy drinking..
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                                    • JayTrotter
                                      SBR Sharp
                                      • 03-27-10
                                      • 320

                                      #158
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                                      • JayTrotter
                                        SBR Sharp
                                        • 03-27-10
                                        • 320

                                        #159
                                        I am not sure what the truth is, I can however tell you that Chili Joe's is one of the many PEDs that Floyd Landis accused Lance of using. There you have it, eat at Chili Joe's... have a HOF career. simple science.
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                                        • icancount2one
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 01-05-10
                                          • 1507

                                          #160
                                          Originally posted by PAI
                                          With all due respect, Brett Favre is a compiler. He has had a nice career. However, he is not the greatest ever. He is not even in the top 5. Is he better than Peyton Manning? Joe Montana? Tom Brady? You have to have Super Bowls - notice the "s." Exceptions can be made for the Peyton Mannings and Dan Marinos. Favre has far too many INTs. I use to bash Manning because he was being anointed the greatest ever by the media without winning consistently in the playoffs. Very good signal caller, but at the end of the day, he could not lead his team to victories against the Patriots in the playoffs. I like QB's that consistently win when the games matter most. My top QB's are Montana, Bradshaw, and Brady. Other QB's have better season stats, but you play to win Super Bowls. Trent Dilfer is a garbage QB with a ring, of course he is not better than Marino, Moon, etc. I had to say that to avoid that conversation getting started.
                                          C'mon man Manning is way better than Brady. Manning had to score 35 points to win playoff games, Brady could get by with 17 sometimes. They both have that killer instinct at the end of the fourth quarter, but when the pass rush is getting there, Brady makes mistakes that Manning doesn't. Also it seems in recent years that Brady's seemingly psychic ability to know when a blitz is coming and what the coverage schemes are is fading (cough, cough).

                                          If Brady can win a super bowl post spygate, I might respect him a little more.
                                          Walter forgot... when you're desperate's when you got no choice.
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                                          • JW Cash
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 12-31-08
                                            • 4453

                                            #161
                                            Brett Favre is back.................all is well with the world....................
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                                            • JW Cash
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 12-31-08
                                              • 4453

                                              #162
                                              Originally posted by jolmscheid
                                              Well jw it looks like us minnesotans have a little more hope this season...although I don't think favre will be nearly as good

                                              R U going to any Viking games this year jolmscheid.....
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                                              • astrodomer
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 08-03-10
                                                • 1665

                                                #163
                                                Favre is great.......but cowboys will make him wish he stayed in Mississippi
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                                                • JW Cash
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 12-31-08
                                                  • 4453

                                                  #164
                                                  Originally posted by astrodomer
                                                  Favre is great.......but cowboys will make him wish he stayed in Mississippi


                                                  Look what Favre did to your Cowpokes last year, slime...

                                                  R U that narrow minded...????

                                                  Well ???
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                                                  • playa420
                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                    • 03-09-08
                                                    • 881

                                                    #165
                                                    Originally posted by astrodomer
                                                    Favre is great.......but cowboys will make him wish he stayed in Mississippi
                                                    The cowboys aint shit. Romos money during the regular season, but he cant handle the pressure in the playoffs and will never win a championship.
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                                                    • jackmyhoggoff
                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                      • 07-20-10
                                                      • 840

                                                      #166
                                                      he's a pro @ throwing games! A con-artist!!!
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                                                      • jolmscheid
                                                        Restricted User
                                                        • 02-20-10
                                                        • 3256

                                                        #167
                                                        I 'm definitely going to try to get to a few JW since I will be down at the U of M....will defiinitely be going to the Golden Gopher games! But we both know how awesome they have been the past few years!.........
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                                                        • slacker00
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 10-06-05
                                                          • 12262

                                                          #168
                                                          Originally posted by icancount2one
                                                          C'mon man Manning is way better than Brady. Manning had to score 35 points to win playoff games, Brady could get by with 17 sometimes. They both have that killer instinct at the end of the fourth quarter, but when the pass rush is getting there, Brady makes mistakes that Manning doesn't. Also it seems in recent years that Brady's seemingly psychic ability to know when a blitz is coming and what the coverage schemes are is fading (cough, cough).

                                                          If Brady can win a super bowl post spygate, I might respect him a little more.
                                                          The stats don't support your argument. Manning is a choker in the playoffs, he doesn't even have more wins than losses. Brady had a bad year last year, he'll be fine after being another year removed from his freak ACL injury. Let's look at the stats, I'll throw Favre in there to stick to the spirit of this thread:

                                                          Playoff numbers:
                                                          Favre 13 wins 11 losses 5855 yards 44 TDs 30 Ints 86.3 rating
                                                          Brady 14 wins 4 losses 4108 yards 28 TDs 15 Ints 85.5 rating
                                                          Manning 9 wins 9 losses 5164 yards 28 TDs 19 Ints 87.6 rating

                                                          As you can see, the ratings are about the same with Brady throwing less picks, but also less yards, probably from playing with more leads. The big one is wins and losses. Maybe Brady was lucky to be on such great teams with such great defenses, but that number is hard to ignore.
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                                                          • Swinging Johnson
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 08-12-09
                                                            • 7604

                                                            #169
                                                            Brett is going down this year. Of course, I made that bold prediction last year as well.
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                                                            • sportsfun
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 11-05-05
                                                              • 1055

                                                              #170
                                                              this year should be good gauge of how good he is. Vikings have a tough schedule.
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                                                              • jollyoscars
                                                                SBR Sharp
                                                                • 04-25-10
                                                                • 470

                                                                #171
                                                                of course he is! one of the best athletes/warriors to ever play ANY sport
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                                                                • Nomocino
                                                                  Restricted User
                                                                  • 08-11-09
                                                                  • 687

                                                                  #172
                                                                  Favre is light years better then any other options the Vikes have. and as far as is he great? I dont like the circus hes put on the last 3 years deciding if or if not he will play, but he is still a top 10 QB in the league even at 40 years of age. He compares to most of the multi Superbowl QBS you mentioned other then Montana
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                                                                  • JW Cash
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 12-31-08
                                                                    • 4453

                                                                    #173
                                                                    I just want to see Favre beat the Green Bay Packers TWICE again this year..

                                                                    then I will be happy...
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                                                                    • jolmscheid
                                                                      Restricted User
                                                                      • 02-20-10
                                                                      • 3256

                                                                      #174
                                                                      Ha Ha...same here JW!
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                                                                      • jbrent95
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 12-07-09
                                                                        • 1221

                                                                        #175
                                                                        Originally posted by JW Cash
                                                                        Wev have to admit that the vast majority of football fans
                                                                        believe the deciding factor pertaining to a QB's greatness
                                                                        is ...........the number of Super Bowls he has won...

                                                                        Forget records....Tarkenton, Marino and Favre have the majority
                                                                        of QB records...but there is only 1 Super Bowl won by that group..

                                                                        ------------------

                                                                        There have been 44 Super Bowls....

                                                                        won by


                                                                        4 wins Terry Bradshaw
                                                                        4 wins Joe Montana
                                                                        3 wins Troy Aikman
                                                                        3 wins Tom Brady
                                                                        2 wins John Elway
                                                                        2 wins Ben Roethlisberger
                                                                        2 wins Bob Griese
                                                                        2 wins Jim Plunkett
                                                                        2 wins Roger Staubach
                                                                        2 wins Bart Starr

                                                                        Brett Favre has won 1 Super Bowl...so essentially
                                                                        he is mired in a vast group of 17 other 1 Super Bowl
                                                                        game winners..

                                                                        Is that Greatness...

                                                                        The last 3 NFC Championship games for Favre have been total disaster..

                                                                        At Philadelphia....in OT...he throws a ridiculously ill conceived pass to
                                                                        the only player that could catch it....an Eagle safety..and Eagles Win..

                                                                        At his own fabled Frozen Tundra of Lambeau Field...against a team who
                                                                        has just won 3 road games in the playoffs...hard to win 4...But leave
                                                                        it to Favre...in OT ..he throws another stupid interception and Giants Win!

                                                                        And just last year,,,he teases again.....Driving for a winning FG in the
                                                                        NFC Title game....he throws an unbelievable archaic cross body pass
                                                                        and the Saints easily pick it off...and win in OT...

                                                                        Is this Greatness ??

                                                                        I have always hated the Green Bay Packers ....and if it was late in a game
                                                                        that they could win....more times than not....I knew Farve would do something
                                                                        stupid...and cost them the game..

                                                                        Look at Favre..in playoff games....have you ever seen a QB fumble as much
                                                                        as he does to lose critical games..remember the Ram playoff game..

                                                                        Favre has longevity...has records ...has what 17 other QB's have...he has 1 Super
                                                                        Bowl win.....

                                                                        But as far as I am concerned...he was just a bafflin, bumblin, buffoon hillybilly..

                                                                        He lost just as many big games as he won.....he was just like a ticking time bomb,
                                                                        you knew it was just a matter of time before he would disintegrate..

                                                                        I just hope now....he just stays retired....

                                                                        Favre.....slightly above average quarterback with records that are just for show.
                                                                        He looks good in jeans though.
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