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  • 2daBank
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 01-26-09
    • 88966

    #176
    Originally posted by leetreaper
    Love SF, a FG wins it
    agreed, think it will be back and forth and prob come down to who has the ball last. i dont care how far niners may have fallen 7.5 at home is a lot.
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    • 2daBank
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 01-26-09
      • 88966

      #177
      almost positive ill be on the under in atl, just waiting to see if it will go any higher. feel pretty damn good where it sits at un 47 just hate the idea of playing it and it going a little higher as over seems to be the popular side. feel like this a better way to approach than fading a atl team i really like at home.
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      • 2daBank
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 01-26-09
        • 88966

        #178
        Originally posted by 2daBank
        Originally Posted by 2daBank
        bungals -4 (2x)..i cannot resist this team at home as they been covering machines for years. dalton thus far has played great and while i dont completely trust him he has been good at home and in the reg season throughout his career. lets be real even bad dalton is no worse than alex stinking smith and the cast cincy has around the ginger is second to nobody in the league. short and simple, i make cincy 3 points better on a neutral field and i give them 3.5 to 4 for HF as i think they have earned that so that is how i have weighted in the last several years. by my math that makes this line short as i have cincy in the -6.5 to -7 range and i think that what they win by here as the ginger continues what everyone been doing and chewing up this secondary. 27-20 bungals.


        jags/colts ov 48 (1.5x).. they have a history of playing under here and that fine, supposedly trends supported a under in ten as well last week. i think colts offense will continue to improve as ty gets healthy and they get gore involved more, their problem is defense and i just dont see anything from them that leads me to believe jags cant score. whether jags scoring to be competitive or in garbage time it all the same to me,. i like luck and co to break 30 again here and have no problem trusting jags to give us 20+ against a colts d allowing 6 yards per play not exactly against offensive powerhouses..


        minny+7 (2x).. try not to have more than one side and/or total a week with a 2x play but what can i say i like this a lot and jumped on cincy early in the week with 2x. id be lying if i didnt say i lose more than i dont going against pizza boy, i do as he or this year more accurately his defense beat me like a rented mule time and again! that said lets be clear here donks are not that good, the defense yes is very good but peyton and the offense are avg at best. ill say it 1000x that kubiacs scheme and peyton dont mesh, they have made some concessions but ultimately they have not been scoring all that much and they have faced 3 woeful opponents who before yesterday were a combined 1-8 and who's defenses been getting torched on a reg basis.

        make no mistake minny will be the best team donks have faced to date and i dont think it debatable. while im 1st to admit the donks d is very good consider they much better teeing off on passing games than they are stopping a physical run gm as their strengths are getting to the passer and running sideline to sideline. look past the defense gaudy yards per rush numbers and realize they have faced a balty team who new oc just discovered they had a run gm yesterday (and they were still out rushed by them), a det team who's play calling consist of having their bum qb taking shotgun snaps and throwing more than anyone, making them basically a sitting duck for this d to tee off. then there was kc who rushed for over 5 ypc and for the most part controlled that thu night gm and that was with the least feared qb in the league under center so we know donks were every bit in full blown stop the run mode in that gm as they possibly can be. that fact alone should make anyone saying "all they have to do is key on ap" worry, 1st off we have seen a team everyone knows is gonna run in fact run all over them, 2nd while teddy b hasnt looked great i still believe he a more dangerous and less mistake prone passer than alex smith who terrible and of course turned it over several times as did charles in a gm kc wins if they played clean. minny is a better coached, qb'ed, and more physical team than kc who physically controlled den.

        i strongly believe min is exactly the kind of offense donks dont wanna see and it been proven you can run on them even if they expecting it. kc has great backs no doubt but does anyone think ap isnt better and more physical than charles? this donks d was built to play for the old peyton who went up several scores on everyone and they were forced to pass. the new peyton and this offense truth is they couldnt get out to big leads on any of the 3 teams (with combined 1 win coming into this weekend) they have played thus far and minny plays more sound d and makes less mistakes than them all. i think vikings give a overrated donks team everything they want and in all honesty like them to pull the upset, that said i made this line more like 3.5-4 so ill happily take the 7 with a team i feel is donks toughest match up to date.


        phins ml +105 (1x).. i really have no explanation for this one as i admit it mostly just gut and hesitant at that considering how terrible i believe the coaching staff is (doesnt help i respect jets new coaching as much as i dislike mia). i just cant get off my feelings of what this defense is capable of and should be, maybe it foolish and im being too stubborn on a team that hasnt really cost me anything (other than my fantasies teams where i drafted this d, lol). maybe the trip to london what they need, fish certainly one of the few teams it doesnt really screw giving away a home gm since they suck at home anyways. other than being wrong bout fish d along with most the world i do feel ive had the jets pretty well pegged betting them the 1st 2 and leaning philly last week. bottom line if your defense ever gonna get right playing a bum like fitzpatrick is the time. we saw fitzmagic at its best last week when the run gm wasnt there to help, ivory might be back but he banged up and not the kind of guy that performs when hurt imo. really like the spot for this d to get right against a beat up team w a turnover prone qb, maybe they dont and continue to suck but i think the talent is there to give them a shot at plus money before i bury them.


        sf +7.5 (1.5x).. ive talked about this gm several places this morning so kinda out of energy. really comes down to a couple things, 1st and foremost what kap has done to this gb defense over the years, pack basically the reason he the franchise qb, i think he will see this team and put last weeks disaster out of his head in a hurry as him and hyde should abuse pack on the ground. gb is banged up and simply not the same force on the road and they coming into sf to face a team that been embarrassed b2b weeks. nobody is as good or bad as everyone thinks in this league and i strongly believe sf while looking miserable are much closer to middle of the pack than bottom feeders. more than a td at candlestick with a niner team that has more than enough incentive to show some pride this week. i think they will as kap and the run game go toe to toe with gb in what i think a fairly high scoring affair (lean over as well), lets call it 28-27 gb.
        hou/atl un 47 (1x).. not many times a year do you see hou totals this high and when i do im always interested in the under. thus far texans been throwing a ton but last week they made a effort to feed the run game. there no way they wanna get into a shootout here and think we see them run far less plays than they avg thus far on the season.

        no secret im a matty ice and julio fan,i like this team and been on them every week but this hou d is a tough matchup for a avg offensive line who while playing well has not seen the kind of talent across from them as they will this week. texans are the most physical team atl has been up against thus far and think they will present some problems for atl by controlling both lines of scrimmage for large chunks of the game.

        i lean hou with the +6 even though i think line is bout right, simply cause the matchup but i decided this was as good of way to approach it as going against a very good home qb (40-15 i believe in ryan's career at the dome). ultimately i think atl wins but hou makes them uncomfortable by keeping the scoring down in the low 20s. i made this around 43-45 with atl scoring 24 or so which i think be more than enough to win it but probably not cover.
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        • 2daBank
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 01-26-09
          • 88966

          #179
          still waiting to see if i can get tampa with 4 or at least +3.5 (really want 4). think it will get there and when it does i will play them as i dont think panthers offense is built to cover any type of number.
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          • Da Phoenix
            SBR Sharp
            • 04-20-14
            • 489

            #180
            What do you think about Lambs this week I think they will cover but Fisher needs to open it up .
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            • 2daBank
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 01-26-09
              • 88966

              #181
              Originally posted by Da Phoenix
              What do you think about Lambs this week I think they will cover but Fisher needs to open it up .
              Pretty much the same problem I have w them most weeks, I just don't trust them to score. I think they will be competative cause the d will keep them in it but ultimately fisher so conservative they don't even attempt to hit big plays. Zona the most aggressive run blitzing team in the league, there just no way lambs driving the field w the run gm, you have to take and hit some big plays on zona cause that where they vulnerable. Problem is for some reason fisher rather die slow than take a few chances, not end of the world w our d if you turn it over once or twice, well worth it if you can also hit a few big plays for scores or at least set scores up. Heard quick should be back so maybe they will but I like enough already I see no reason to trust it till I see it.
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              • mlb
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 12-04-09
                • 10509

                #182
                Originally posted by 2daBank
                Pretty much the same problem I have w them most weeks, I just don't trust them to score. I think they will be competative cause the d will keep them in it but ultimately fisher so conservative they don't even attempt to hit big plays. Zona the most aggressive run blitzing team in the league, there just no way lambs driving the field w the run gm, you have to take and hit some big plays on zona cause that where they vulnerable. Problem is for some reason fisher rather die slow than take a few chances, not end of the world w our d if you turn it over once or twice, well worth it if you can also hit a few big plays for scores or at least set scores up. Heard quick should be back so maybe they will but I like enough already I see no reason to trust it till I see it.
                Didn't they just trade quick?
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                • 2daBank
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 01-26-09
                  • 88966

                  #183
                  Originally posted by mlb
                  Didn't they just trade quick?
                  Na not quick, givens was traded which little curious as there been times last few years he was by far best route runner of our sorry group I thought. That said not ridiculous as trading quick would have been. Lol,
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                  • mlb
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 12-04-09
                    • 10509

                    #184
                    Muh bad ... thanks
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                    • Madison
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 09-16-11
                      • 6467

                      #185
                      Originally posted by 2daBank
                      id be so pissed if i played pit, not gonna lie i threw a little on bs tease and about lost that needing the over 38 cause that damn kicker so im glad balty tied it. i feel for anyone who bet pit tho, they were the right side and basically lead throughout. shit coaching and a terrible kicker cost the right side the win..typical thu night. pretty good chance i continue not playing them as i think they a joke really.
                      Is there a worse in game coach than Tomlin? He helped me win survivor last year when he let TB run the same play 3 straight times to lose late.
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                      • Pikachu
                        SBR Wise Guy
                        • 02-23-13
                        • 728

                        #186
                        Andrew luck is out. Do you still like the over? Thanks
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                        • 2daBank
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 01-26-09
                          • 88966

                          #187
                          Originally posted by Pikachu
                          Andrew luck is out. Do you still like the over? Thanks
                          not really, certainly not where i have it. not much i can do about it, still kinda lean over the new number but im just stuck with what i have,.
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                          • 2daBank
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 01-26-09
                            • 88966

                            #188
                            Originally posted by 2daBank
                            Originally Posted by 2daBank
                            bungals -4 (2x)..i cannot resist this team at home as they been covering machines for years. dalton thus far has played great and while i dont completely trust him he has been good at home and in the reg season throughout his career. lets be real even bad dalton is no worse than alex stinking smith and the cast cincy has around the ginger is second to nobody in the league. short and simple, i make cincy 3 points better on a neutral field and i give them 3.5 to 4 for HF as i think they have earned that so that is how i have weighted in the last several years. by my math that makes this line short as i have cincy in the -6.5 to -7 range and i think that what they win by here as the ginger continues what everyone been doing and chewing up this secondary. 27-20 bungals.


                            jags/colts ov 48 (1.5x).. they have a history of playing under here and that fine, supposedly trends supported a under in ten as well last week. i think colts offense will continue to improve as ty gets healthy and they get gore involved more, their problem is defense and i just dont see anything from them that leads me to believe jags cant score. whether jags scoring to be competitive or in garbage time it all the same to me,. i like luck and co to break 30 again here and have no problem trusting jags to give us 20+ against a colts d allowing 6 yards per play not exactly against offensive powerhouses..


                            minny+7 (2x).. try not to have more than one side and/or total a week with a 2x play but what can i say i like this a lot and jumped on cincy early in the week with 2x. id be lying if i didnt say i lose more than i dont going against pizza boy, i do as he or this year more accurately his defense beat me like a rented mule time and again! that said lets be clear here donks are not that good, the defense yes is very good but peyton and the offense are avg at best. ill say it 1000x that kubiacs scheme and peyton dont mesh, they have made some concessions but ultimately they have not been scoring all that much and they have faced 3 woeful opponents who before yesterday were a combined 1-8 and who's defenses been getting torched on a reg basis.

                            make no mistake minny will be the best team donks have faced to date and i dont think it debatable. while im 1st to admit the donks d is very good consider they much better teeing off on passing games than they are stopping a physical run gm as their strengths are getting to the passer and running sideline to sideline. look past the defense gaudy yards per rush numbers and realize they have faced a balty team who new oc just discovered they had a run gm yesterday (and they were still out rushed by them), a det team who's play calling consist of having their bum qb taking shotgun snaps and throwing more than anyone, making them basically a sitting duck for this d to tee off. then there was kc who rushed for over 5 ypc and for the most part controlled that thu night gm and that was with the least feared qb in the league under center so we know donks were every bit in full blown stop the run mode in that gm as they possibly can be. that fact alone should make anyone saying "all they have to do is key on ap" worry, 1st off we have seen a team everyone knows is gonna run in fact run all over them, 2nd while teddy b hasnt looked great i still believe he a more dangerous and less mistake prone passer than alex smith who terrible and of course turned it over several times as did charles in a gm kc wins if they played clean. minny is a better coached, qb'ed, and more physical team than kc who physically controlled den.

                            i strongly believe min is exactly the kind of offense donks dont wanna see and it been proven you can run on them even if they expecting it. kc has great backs no doubt but does anyone think ap isnt better and more physical than charles? this donks d was built to play for the old peyton who went up several scores on everyone and they were forced to pass. the new peyton and this offense truth is they couldnt get out to big leads on any of the 3 teams (with combined 1 win coming into this weekend) they have played thus far and minny plays more sound d and makes less mistakes than them all. i think vikings give a overrated donks team everything they want and in all honesty like them to pull the upset, that said i made this line more like 3.5-4 so ill happily take the 7 with a team i feel is donks toughest match up to date.


                            phins ml +105 (1x).. i really have no explanation for this one as i admit it mostly just gut and hesitant at that considering how terrible i believe the coaching staff is (doesnt help i respect jets new coaching as much as i dislike mia). i just cant get off my feelings of what this defense is capable of and should be, maybe it foolish and im being too stubborn on a team that hasnt really cost me anything (other than my fantasies teams where i drafted this d, lol). maybe the trip to london what they need, fish certainly one of the few teams it doesnt really screw giving away a home gm since they suck at home anyways. other than being wrong bout fish d along with most the world i do feel ive had the jets pretty well pegged betting them the 1st 2 and leaning philly last week. bottom line if your defense ever gonna get right playing a bum like fitzpatrick is the time. we saw fitzmagic at its best last week when the run gm wasnt there to help, ivory might be back but he banged up and not the kind of guy that performs when hurt imo. really like the spot for this d to get right against a beat up team w a turnover prone qb, maybe they dont and continue to suck but i think the talent is there to give them a shot at plus money before i bury them.


                            sf +7.5 (1.5x).. ive talked about this gm several places this morning so kinda out of energy. really comes down to a couple things, 1st and foremost what kap has done to this gb defense over the years, pack basically the reason he the franchise qb, i think he will see this team and put last weeks disaster out of his head in a hurry as him and hyde should abuse pack on the ground. gb is banged up and simply not the same force on the road and they coming into sf to face a team that been embarrassed b2b weeks. nobody is as good or bad as everyone thinks in this league and i strongly believe sf while looking miserable are much closer to middle of the pack than bottom feeders. more than a td at candlestick with a niner team that has more than enough incentive to show some pride this week. i think they will as kap and the run game go toe to toe with gb in what i think a fairly high scoring affair (lean over as well), lets call it 28-27 gb.


                            hou/atl un 47 (1x).. not many times a year do you see hou totals this high and when i do im always interested in the under. thus far texans been throwing a ton but last week they made a effort to feed the run game. there no way they wanna get into a shootout here and think we see them run far less plays than they avg thus far on the season.

                            no secret im a matty ice and julio fan,i like this team and been on them every week but this hou d is a tough matchup for a avg offensive line who while playing well has not seen the kind of talent across from them as they will this week. texans are the most physical team atl has been up against thus far and think they will present some problems for atl by controlling both lines of scrimmage for large chunks of the game.

                            i lean hou with the +6 even though i think line is bout right, simply cause the matchup but i decided this was as good of way to approach it as going against a very good home qb (40-15 i believe in ryan's career at the dome). ultimately i think atl wins but hou makes them uncomfortable by keeping the scoring down in the low 20s. i made this around 43-45 with atl scoring 24 or so which i think be more than enough to win it but probably not cover.
                            really screwed myself taking couple early this week, not much i can do really.

                            bucs +4 -120 (1x)...
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                            • 2daBank
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 01-26-09
                              • 88966

                              #189
                              Originally posted by 2daBank
                              Originally Posted by 2daBank
                              bungals -4 (2x)..i cannot resist this team at home as they been covering machines for years. dalton thus far has played great and while i dont completely trust him he has been good at home and in the reg season throughout his career. lets be real even bad dalton is no worse than alex stinking smith and the cast cincy has around the ginger is second to nobody in the league. short and simple, i make cincy 3 points better on a neutral field and i give them 3.5 to 4 for HF as i think they have earned that so that is how i have weighted in the last several years. by my math that makes this line short as i have cincy in the -6.5 to -7 range and i think that what they win by here as the ginger continues what everyone been doing and chewing up this secondary. 27-20 bungals.


                              jags/colts ov 48 (1.5x).. they have a history of playing under here and that fine, supposedly trends supported a under in ten as well last week. i think colts offense will continue to improve as ty gets healthy and they get gore involved more, their problem is defense and i just dont see anything from them that leads me to believe jags cant score. whether jags scoring to be competitive or in garbage time it all the same to me,. i like luck and co to break 30 again here and have no problem trusting jags to give us 20+ against a colts d allowing 6 yards per play not exactly against offensive powerhouses..


                              minny+7 (2x).. try not to have more than one side and/or total a week with a 2x play but what can i say i like this a lot and jumped on cincy early in the week with 2x. id be lying if i didnt say i lose more than i dont going against pizza boy, i do as he or this year more accurately his defense beat me like a rented mule time and again! that said lets be clear here donks are not that good, the defense yes is very good but peyton and the offense are avg at best. ill say it 1000x that kubiacs scheme and peyton dont mesh, they have made some concessions but ultimately they have not been scoring all that much and they have faced 3 woeful opponents who before yesterday were a combined 1-8 and who's defenses been getting torched on a reg basis.

                              make no mistake minny will be the best team donks have faced to date and i dont think it debatable. while im 1st to admit the donks d is very good consider they much better teeing off on passing games than they are stopping a physical run gm as their strengths are getting to the passer and running sideline to sideline. look past the defense gaudy yards per rush numbers and realize they have faced a balty team who new oc just discovered they had a run gm yesterday (and they were still out rushed by them), a det team who's play calling consist of having their bum qb taking shotgun snaps and throwing more than anyone, making them basically a sitting duck for this d to tee off. then there was kc who rushed for over 5 ypc and for the most part controlled that thu night gm and that was with the least feared qb in the league under center so we know donks were every bit in full blown stop the run mode in that gm as they possibly can be. that fact alone should make anyone saying "all they have to do is key on ap" worry, 1st off we have seen a team everyone knows is gonna run in fact run all over them, 2nd while teddy b hasnt looked great i still believe he a more dangerous and less mistake prone passer than alex smith who terrible and of course turned it over several times as did charles in a gm kc wins if they played clean. minny is a better coached, qb'ed, and more physical team than kc who physically controlled den.

                              i strongly believe min is exactly the kind of offense donks dont wanna see and it been proven you can run on them even if they expecting it. kc has great backs no doubt but does anyone think ap isnt better and more physical than charles? this donks d was built to play for the old peyton who went up several scores on everyone and they were forced to pass. the new peyton and this offense truth is they couldnt get out to big leads on any of the 3 teams (with combined 1 win coming into this weekend) they have played thus far and minny plays more sound d and makes less mistakes than them all. i think vikings give a overrated donks team everything they want and in all honesty like them to pull the upset, that said i made this line more like 3.5-4 so ill happily take the 7 with a team i feel is donks toughest match up to date.


                              phins ml +105 (1x).. i really have no explanation for this one as i admit it mostly just gut and hesitant at that considering how terrible i believe the coaching staff is (doesnt help i respect jets new coaching as much as i dislike mia). i just cant get off my feelings of what this defense is capable of and should be, maybe it foolish and im being too stubborn on a team that hasnt really cost me anything (other than my fantasies teams where i drafted this d, lol). maybe the trip to london what they need, fish certainly one of the few teams it doesnt really screw giving away a home gm since they suck at home anyways. other than being wrong bout fish d along with most the world i do feel ive had the jets pretty well pegged betting them the 1st 2 and leaning philly last week. bottom line if your defense ever gonna get right playing a bum like fitzpatrick is the time. we saw fitzmagic at its best last week when the run gm wasnt there to help, ivory might be back but he banged up and not the kind of guy that performs when hurt imo. really like the spot for this d to get right against a beat up team w a turnover prone qb, maybe they dont and continue to suck but i think the talent is there to give them a shot at plus money before i bury them.


                              sf +7.5 (1.5x).. ive talked about this gm several places this morning so kinda out of energy. really comes down to a couple things, 1st and foremost what kap has done to this gb defense over the years, pack basically the reason he the franchise qb, i think he will see this team and put last weeks disaster out of his head in a hurry as him and hyde should abuse pack on the ground. gb is banged up and simply not the same force on the road and they coming into sf to face a team that been embarrassed b2b weeks. nobody is as good or bad as everyone thinks in this league and i strongly believe sf while looking miserable are much closer to middle of the pack than bottom feeders. more than a td at candlestick with a niner team that has more than enough incentive to show some pride this week. i think they will as kap and the run game go toe to toe with gb in what i think a fairly high scoring affair (lean over as well), lets call it 28-27 gb.


                              hou/atl un 47 (1x).. not many times a year do you see hou totals this high and when i do im always interested in the under. thus far texans been throwing a ton but last week they made a effort to feed the run game. there no way they wanna get into a shootout here and think we see them run far less plays than they avg thus far on the season.

                              no secret im a matty ice and julio fan,i like this team and been on them every week but this hou d is a tough matchup for a avg offensive line who while playing well has not seen the kind of talent across from them as they will this week. texans are the most physical team atl has been up against thus far and think they will present some problems for atl by controlling both lines of scrimmage for large chunks of the game.

                              i lean hou with the +6 even though i think line is bout right, simply cause the matchup but i decided this was as good of way to approach it as going against a very good home qb (40-15 i believe in ryan's career at the dome). ultimately i think atl wins but hou makes them uncomfortable by keeping the scoring down in the low 20s. i made this around 43-45 with atl scoring 24 or so which i think be more than enough to win it but probably not cover.




                              bucs +4 -120 (1x)...
                              skins+3 (1x)
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                              • Eric22174
                                SBR MVP
                                • 10-01-10
                                • 1334

                                #190
                                The Bengals as a short fav are a Halloween scary 9-23 ATS handing points in the month of October.
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                                • Shark
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 01-14-10
                                  • 1790

                                  #191
                                  i need a suicide pick... i've narrowed it down to atl, gb, no or az. I try to stay away from divisional games so i think az is out. i'd like to save gb so im thinking atl, but i do think the saints win tonight. Cant go wrong backing matty ice to pull one out at home even if its a tight one.
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                                  • goldust
                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                    • 09-29-15
                                    • 861

                                    #192
                                    Sounds crazy, but I'd go with the winless Saints. Betting against Brandon Weeden when your QB is Drew Brees is a great thing.
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                                    • eswerve4
                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                      • 10-09-11
                                      • 500

                                      #193
                                      GL
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                                      • 2daBank
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 01-26-09
                                        • 88966

                                        #194
                                        Originally posted by Shark
                                        i need a suicide pick... i've narrowed it down to atl, gb, no or az. I try to stay away from divisional games so i think az is out. i'd like to save gb so im thinking atl, but i do think the saints win tonight. Cant go wrong backing matty ice to pull one out at home even if its a tight one.
                                        I used chargers but honestly don't feel great about it, I think they outta pull it out, just don't like how banged up the oline is. On the bright side I don't really think cle front 7 will do much about it. Of your choices I'd go zona and kinda wished I would have, i honestly have no clue tonight but I couldn't trust aints in survivor pool at the moment.
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                                        • 2daBank
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 01-26-09
                                          • 88966

                                          #195
                                          Bears 1st half ml +115 (1.5x)
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                                          • 2daBank
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 01-26-09
                                            • 88966

                                            #196
                                            bears 2nd half ml +145 (1x)
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                                            • I'm_Lucky
                                              SBR High Roller
                                              • 01-16-09
                                              • 143

                                              #197
                                              Hi 2daBank,

                                              Any thoughts on the DAL/NO game tonight? I feel like taking the Saints ATS, but not sure it would be a wise decision.
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                                              • 2daBank
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 01-26-09
                                                • 88966

                                                #198
                                                Originally posted by I'm_Lucky
                                                Hi 2daBank,

                                                Any thoughts on the DAL/NO game tonight? I feel like taking the Saints ATS, but not sure it would be a wise decision.
                                                I lean aints but hard for me to pull the trigger, maybe it the fact I been fading the aints for several years! Lol. Or maybe
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                                                • 2daBank
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                                                  • 01-26-09
                                                  • 88966

                                                  #199
                                                  Originally posted by Eric22174
                                                  The Bengals as a short fav are a Halloween scary 9-23 ATS handing points in the month of October.
                                                  as you saw today that shit means absolutely nothing.
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                                                  • 2daBank
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                                                    • 01-26-09
                                                    • 88966

                                                    #200
                                                    Saints -3 -115 (1.5x)..cant believe i would ever bet this scrub team again as all ive done is fade these bums with a great deal of success the last few years. that said i think this one of the 1st times i recall one of their lines not being inflated in the dome. as bad as i think aints are i dont think they worse than a weeden lead dal team so think there real value in only lay 3 in the dome tonight. hopefully they start getting spiller involved more and guess it be nice if cooks would come out of hiding. i hate brees but gotta believe he aint coming back tonight to catch another loss.
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                                                    • KRIT
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                                                      • 01-11-14
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                                                      #201
                                                      Originally posted by 2daBank
                                                      Saints -3 -115 (1.5x)..cant believe i would ever bet this scrub team again as all ive done is fade these bums with a great deal of success the last few years. that said i think this one of the 1st times i recall one of their lines not being inflated in the dome. as bad as i think aints are i dont think they worse than a weeden lead dal team so think there real value in only lay 3 in the dome tonight. hopefully they start getting spiller involved more and guess it be nice if cooks would come out of hiding. i hate brees but gotta believe he aint coming back tonight to catch another loss.
                                                      I agree here. Blindly fading Weeden and hoping Saints get back on track. If Saints can jump out early and force Boys to throw, they should cover this easily. I do worry that Boys will be able to run all over the Saints.
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                                                      • 2daBank
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                                                        • 01-26-09
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                                                        #202
                                                        Originally posted by KRIT
                                                        I agree here. Blindly fading Weeden and hoping Saints get back on track. If Saints can jump out early and force Boys to throw, they should cover this easily. I do worry that Boys will be able to run all over the Saints.
                                                        they probably will but we have the added bonus of garrett being a moron who will abandoned the run game for no explicable reason, lol. all it comes down to me is this the 1st time in years i dont think aints overpriced and actually have some value. guess burning squares money for more than a year finally had to accomplish this, lol..
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                                                        • SmittyZ28
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                                                          • 09-04-12
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                                                          #203
                                                          With you on this one Bank, lets get it
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                                                          • 2daBank
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                                                            #204
                                                            Originally posted by 2daBank
                                                            Originally Posted by 2daBank
                                                            bungals -4 (2x)..i cannot resist this team at home as they been covering machines for years. dalton thus far has played great and while i dont completely trust him he has been good at home and in the reg season throughout his career. lets be real even bad dalton is no worse than alex stinking smith and the cast cincy has around the ginger is second to nobody in the league. short and simple, i make cincy 3 points better on a neutral field and i give them 3.5 to 4 for HF as i think they have earned that so that is how i have weighted in the last several years. by my math that makes this line short as i have cincy in the -6.5 to -7 range and i think that what they win by here as the ginger continues what everyone been doing and chewing up this secondary. 27-20 bungals.


                                                            jags/colts ov 48 (1.5x).. they have a history of playing under here and that fine, supposedly trends supported a under in ten as well last week. i think colts offense will continue to improve as ty gets healthy and they get gore involved more, their problem is defense and i just dont see anything from them that leads me to believe jags cant score. whether jags scoring to be competitive or in garbage time it all the same to me,. i like luck and co to break 30 again here and have no problem trusting jags to give us 20+ against a colts d allowing 6 yards per play not exactly against offensive powerhouses..


                                                            minny+7 (2x).. try not to have more than one side and/or total a week with a 2x play but what can i say i like this a lot and jumped on cincy early in the week with 2x. id be lying if i didnt say i lose more than i dont going against pizza boy, i do as he or this year more accurately his defense beat me like a rented mule time and again! that said lets be clear here donks are not that good, the defense yes is very good but peyton and the offense are avg at best. ill say it 1000x that kubiacs scheme and peyton dont mesh, they have made some concessions but ultimately they have not been scoring all that much and they have faced 3 woeful opponents who before yesterday were a combined 1-8 and who's defenses been getting torched on a reg basis.

                                                            make no mistake minny will be the best team donks have faced to date and i dont think it debatable. while im 1st to admit the donks d is very good consider they much better teeing off on passing games than they are stopping a physical run gm as their strengths are getting to the passer and running sideline to sideline. look past the defense gaudy yards per rush numbers and realize they have faced a balty team who new oc just discovered they had a run gm yesterday (and they were still out rushed by them), a det team who's play calling consist of having their bum qb taking shotgun snaps and throwing more than anyone, making them basically a sitting duck for this d to tee off. then there was kc who rushed for over 5 ypc and for the most part controlled that thu night gm and that was with the least feared qb in the league under center so we know donks were every bit in full blown stop the run mode in that gm as they possibly can be. that fact alone should make anyone saying "all they have to do is key on ap" worry, 1st off we have seen a team everyone knows is gonna run in fact run all over them, 2nd while teddy b hasnt looked great i still believe he a more dangerous and less mistake prone passer than alex smith who terrible and of course turned it over several times as did charles in a gm kc wins if they played clean. minny is a better coached, qb'ed, and more physical team than kc who physically controlled den.

                                                            i strongly believe min is exactly the kind of offense donks dont wanna see and it been proven you can run on them even if they expecting it. kc has great backs no doubt but does anyone think ap isnt better and more physical than charles? this donks d was built to play for the old peyton who went up several scores on everyone and they were forced to pass. the new peyton and this offense truth is they couldnt get out to big leads on any of the 3 teams (with combined 1 win coming into this weekend) they have played thus far and minny plays more sound d and makes less mistakes than them all. i think vikings give a overrated donks team everything they want and in all honesty like them to pull the upset, that said i made this line more like 3.5-4 so ill happily take the 7 with a team i feel is donks toughest match up to date.


                                                            phins ml +105 (1x).. i really have no explanation for this one as i admit it mostly just gut and hesitant at that considering how terrible i believe the coaching staff is (doesnt help i respect jets new coaching as much as i dislike mia). i just cant get off my feelings of what this defense is capable of and should be, maybe it foolish and im being too stubborn on a team that hasnt really cost me anything (other than my fantasies teams where i drafted this d, lol). maybe the trip to london what they need, fish certainly one of the few teams it doesnt really screw giving away a home gm since they suck at home anyways. other than being wrong bout fish d along with most the world i do feel ive had the jets pretty well pegged betting them the 1st 2 and leaning philly last week. bottom line if your defense ever gonna get right playing a bum like fitzpatrick is the time. we saw fitzmagic at its best last week when the run gm wasnt there to help, ivory might be back but he banged up and not the kind of guy that performs when hurt imo. really like the spot for this d to get right against a beat up team w a turnover prone qb, maybe they dont and continue to suck but i think the talent is there to give them a shot at plus money before i bury them.


                                                            sf +7.5 (1.5x).. ive talked about this gm several places this morning so kinda out of energy. really comes down to a couple things, 1st and foremost what kap has done to this gb defense over the years, pack basically the reason he the franchise qb, i think he will see this team and put last weeks disaster out of his head in a hurry as him and hyde should abuse pack on the ground. gb is banged up and simply not the same force on the road and they coming into sf to face a team that been embarrassed b2b weeks. nobody is as good or bad as everyone thinks in this league and i strongly believe sf while looking miserable are much closer to middle of the pack than bottom feeders. more than a td at candlestick with a niner team that has more than enough incentive to show some pride this week. i think they will as kap and the run game go toe to toe with gb in what i think a fairly high scoring affair (lean over as well), lets call it 28-27 gb.


                                                            hou/atl un 47 (1x).. not many times a year do you see hou totals this high and when i do im always interested in the under. thus far texans been throwing a ton but last week they made a effort to feed the run game. there no way they wanna get into a shootout here and think we see them run far less plays than they avg thus far on the season.

                                                            no secret im a matty ice and julio fan,i like this team and been on them every week but this hou d is a tough matchup for a avg offensive line who while playing well has not seen the kind of talent across from them as they will this week. texans are the most physical team atl has been up against thus far and think they will present some problems for atl by controlling both lines of scrimmage for large chunks of the game.

                                                            i lean hou with the +6 even though i think line is bout right, simply cause the matchup but i decided this was as good of way to approach it as going against a very good home qb (40-15 i believe in ryan's career at the dome). ultimately i think atl wins but hou makes them uncomfortable by keeping the scoring down in the low 20s. i made this around 43-45 with atl scoring 24 or so which i think be more than enough to win it but probably not cover.




                                                            bucs +4 -120 (1x)...

                                                            skins+3 (1x)
                                                            Originally posted by 2daBank
                                                            Bears 1st half ml +115 (1.5x)
                                                            Originally posted by 2daBank
                                                            Saints -3 -115 (1.5x)..cant believe i would ever bet this scrub team again as all ive done is fade these bums with a great deal of success the last few years. that said i think this one of the 1st times i recall one of their lines not being inflated in the dome. as bad as i think aints are i dont think they worse than a weeden lead dal team so think there real value in only lay 3 in the dome tonight. hopefully they start getting spiller involved more and guess it be nice if cooks would come out of hiding. i hate brees but gotta believe he aint coming back tonight to catch another loss.
                                                            5-5 +1.7

                                                            gonna start doing a little recap critiquing the good and bad of my plays every week.

                                                            the bad

                                                            jags/indy over-----really got put in terrible spot with the indy total, had no clue the luck injury was serious enough he could miss this game and got stuck with that horrible number in a game i obviously would have had no interest in the over w/o him playing.

                                                            sf----honestly cant believe the sf d showed up and held pack to 17 points and somehow still lost that play!! if someone would have told me before the game pack were only gonna score 17 i would have prob made sf my biggest bet of year and lost, lol. my god that offense is woeful, kap has regressed to the point of looking like the worst qb in the damn league and his team gives him no help on the few throws he actually hits his target they drop half of them. beyond that the play calling was about as bad as it gets, how in the world does hyde only get 8 fukkin carries in a gm the defense held them in throughout? officiating was beyond terrible in this game as well, i recall at least 4-5 plays of calls or non calls that really put niners in tough spots. obviously i had a bias while watching so in fairness i dont know if there were any of these horrendous calls against the pack. mixed feelings on whether this was a bad play or not? niners d showed some pride and played their asses off, could have easily scored and made it 17-10 on that late drive where kap bounced one 7 feet short of a wide open hyde who would have walked into the endzone. on the other hand i now feel ive given kap far to much credit thinking he had potential, granted it much harder playing qb when the guy calling the plays a god damn moron but even so that doesnt excuse the god awful throws this guy makes. he air mailed every throw down the field and bounce numerous short passes to wide open guys. not only that i lost track of how many times bolden was wide open and didnt even get a look, whether that cause kap is blind or cause he busy looking at the pass rush i dont know but there were several times boldin looked like he wanted to lay kap out and i was hoping he would! last but not least this clown is incapable of making any kind of hot read or protection adjustments even when the blitz is obvious, he seriously would see blitz pre snap and call some things out like a normal qb, only problem is after the snap he seems to forget he has a unaccounted for rusher and should be throwing hot! guy has the lowest football iq ive ever witnessed from a qb and whoever calling plays is just as stupid.

                                                            phins---if im the GM i would have told moron coach to find his own way home after the game cause the plane for members of the team and he no longer fits that description. this is the most heartless, gutless bunch of clowns in the nfl. that fat ass they paid all that money to has gone the way of many before him and decided there no point in trying after you get the check. holy shit ive never seen someone so big and powerful so unwilling to make a tackle, several times he bust thru and apparently had no interest in excerting the effort it takes to wrap up the ball carrier. i thought at plus money it was worth taking a chance that these losers had some pride/heart/spine, 10 minutes into the game i realized i was wrong. lol. gutless cowards playing d and a qb that couldnt hit the side of a barn from any further than 15 yards. Landry the only player or coach on that team that appears to be trying. the OC is either dumb or like rest of team just doesnt care, if any teams play calling stinks as bad as the niners it this outfit.

                                                            the under in atl snowballed fast when hou started turning it over. even tho atl beat the number by themselves (lol) really dont feel it was a bad play just had everything go wrong that could and lead to texans having to air it out all 2nd half.

                                                            bucs could be so much better if they learned to have any respect for the value of the rock. despite the ungodly amount of early turnovers if they had a NFL caliber kicker this gm could have played out far tighter.,

                                                            the good

                                                            out of time at moment but best thing about the card was that i felt really spot on with both my top rated plays and that has seemed to become a trend this season. pretty pumped as that never been my strongest quality

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                                                            • SEAHAWKHARRY
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                                                              #205
                                                              Great job banker your doing well
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                                                              • 2daBank
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                                                                • 01-26-09
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                                                                #206
                                                                Originally posted by SEAHAWKHARRY
                                                                Great job banker your doing well
                                                                thanks buddy but feel like i should be doing better honestly. hitting my 2x plays at a really high rate this year has been what im most proud of. i hate trying to cut back on my plays per week but i def feel like the last 2 weeks i would have been much better served to not be playing as many games as i have.. i actually did really well with some late 1st half adds and 2nd halves this week but didnt have time to post them.
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                                                                • TPruet87
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                                                                  • 03-17-14
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                                                                  #207
                                                                  Solid year so far dude. Appreciate how you break down these games when you share your plays. Cheers to a solid 1st Qtr of NFL reg season.
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                                                                  • 2daBank
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                                                                    • 01-26-09
                                                                    • 88966

                                                                    #208
                                                                    week 4

                                                                    5-5 +1.7

                                                                    ytd

                                                                    23-20 +9.15

                                                                    continuing the trend of around .500 but hitting more of the 2x plays and missing on more of the 1x variety. if i have time this week might go back and break down the w-l record of the 1x, 1.5x, 2x. not sure if i have went up to a 2.5 or 3x which is as high as i ever go on nfl.

                                                                    looking at the monday nighter now, pretty sure will have a play up shortly.
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                                                                    • Notorious_Donk
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                                                                      • 03-29-11
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                                                                      #209
                                                                      Good call on the Saints last night, I'm glad I tailed. Going off your write-up about the play I wanted to avoid the Aints as well. However, they were in the Superdome and it was known that Brees has a chip on his shoulder. One thing we learned from SNF.... the Weeden fade continues
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                                                                      • 2daBank
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                                                                        • 01-26-09
                                                                        • 88966

                                                                        #210
                                                                        monday night

                                                                        2 team 7 point teaser.. 1.85 to 1.5

                                                                        sea-2.5
                                                                        ov 36
                                                                        no need to explain the seachicken side of tease is there? seachickens at home vs a shit team with a shit coaching staff. actually a fairly talented team but they sorry and mostly due to coaching imo. point being sea not losing this game at a place only the best teams even have a chance against them.


                                                                        det/sea ov 43 (1x).. lions shit coaching staff results in them having stafford in shotgun throwing 40-50 times a game, that gonna lead to sack/fumbles and picks that lead to points against sea ball hawk secondary.. i expect they dig themselves a hole as a lot of teams do when they visit this madhouse. lions do have talent tho and i think between abdulla and the wrs will be able to make some plays, whether that garbage time or them hanging around doesnt matter but they should be desperate enough to put up a respectable number (lets say 20ish). problem is det is allowing the highest completion percentage imaginable to opposing qbs so wilson will have a field day picking this team apart and keeping the run game on track to wear them down. i think this gets well over this number. whether it by blowout or even if det comes to play i think to have a chance they gonna have to be well into the 20s cause sea gonna score 27-30 points minimum here i believe. lets say the spread spot on and call it 31-21 sea..
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