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  • cooperman
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 10-23-16
    • 570

    #211
    Helluva day for ya heeluvaguy 3-0 sweep looks sweet!
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    • doubledime
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 04-22-09
      • 9751

      #212
      Originally posted by HeeluvaGuy
      3-0 night without much drama. A rare kind of night.

      36-32 (+2.56u)
      Totals: 34-26
      Nice indeed
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      • Flea Hotel
        Restricted User
        • 08-31-16
        • 1732

        #213
        Bravo. Thank god bitcoins aren't physically real or I'd be worried my friends would be trying to find them like they do my ADHD meds. Great work.
        Originally posted by HeeluvaGuy
        3-0 night without much drama. A rare kind of night.

        36-32 (+2.56u)
        Totals: 34-26
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        • HeeluvaGuy
          SBR MVP
          • 02-15-14
          • 3449

          #214
          Originally posted by Flea Hotel
          Bravo. Thank god bitcoins aren't physically real or I'd be worried my friends would be trying to find them like they do my ADHD meds. Great work.
          I have no idea what that means, but I'm glad we got some winners last night. Thanks for the points Flea!
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          • HeeluvaGuy
            SBR MVP
            • 02-15-14
            • 3449

            #215
            9:00 Kent St/Ohio o145 -105
            This is another case where I think the defenses may be getting their ok much credit. Both teams rank in the top 80 in defensive points per possession, but they have both played weak offensive teams. I think this one gets to 75 possessions, and at that pace the offenses should be good enough to get us over 145. My model has around 149, and kenpom has 73 possessions (and a 149 total).
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            • doubledime
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 04-22-09
              • 9751

              #216
              Originally posted by HeeluvaGuy
              9:00 Kent St/Ohio o145 -105
              This is another case where I think the defenses may be getting their ok much credit. Both teams rank in the top 80 in defensive points per possession, but they have both played weak offensive teams. I think this one gets to 75 possessions, and at that pace the offenses should be good enough to get us over 145. My model has around 149, and kenpom has 73 possessions (and a 149 total).
              This is one of the overs I will be playing also. Good luck to both of us.
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              • HeeluvaGuy
                SBR MVP
                • 02-15-14
                • 3449

                #217
                Last one for today:

                6:30 W Michigan/Akron u151 -105
                Scratching my head at this line. Only 1 of the last 10 meetings between these two has gone over 150 points. I get a game played in the low 70s possession-wise. Despite some decent offensive numbers, I don't think these two can score enough to get over 151 with that number of possessions. Kenpom says 67 possessions.
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                • Flea Hotel
                  Restricted User
                  • 08-31-16
                  • 1732

                  #218
                  I'll log results for games you two are both on.
                  Originally posted by doubledime
                  This is one of the overs I will be playing also. Good luck to both of us.
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                  • Flea Hotel
                    Restricted User
                    • 08-31-16
                    • 1732

                    #219
                    Wait.. DD, you have the under in your thread.
                    Originally posted by doubledime
                    This is one of the overs I will be playing also. Good luck to both of us.
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                    • HeeluvaGuy
                      SBR MVP
                      • 02-15-14
                      • 3449

                      #220
                      Originally posted by Flea Hotel
                      Wait.. DD, you have the under in your thread.
                      He fixed it to over. I think we're 3-1 or 4-1 when posting he same play this season.
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                      • Flea Hotel
                        Restricted User
                        • 08-31-16
                        • 1732

                        #221
                        That's probably a good thing you don't know what that means and no prob, I still don't know what those points are for... I assume their for saying thanks.
                        Originally posted by HeeluvaGuy
                        I have no idea what that means, but I'm glad we got some winners last night. Thanks for the points Flea!
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                        • rankslash
                          SBR MVP
                          • 07-29-13
                          • 1562

                          #222
                          Originally posted by HeeluvaGuy
                          9:00 Kent St/Ohio o145 -105
                          This is another case where I think the defenses may be getting their ok much credit. Both teams rank in the top 80 in defensive points per possession, but they have both played weak offensive teams. I think this one gets to 75 possessions, and at that pace the offenses should be good enough to get us over 145. My model has around 149, and kenpom has 73 possessions (and a 149 total).
                          Well, The O/U line is at 149 now so it's a no play for me. 150 are a lot of points for a college game. Your bet looks great through. Good luck.
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                          • HeeluvaGuy
                            SBR MVP
                            • 02-15-14
                            • 3449

                            #223
                            Originally posted by rankslash
                            Well, The O/U line is at 149 now so it's a no play for me. 150 are a lot of points for a college game. Your bet looks great through. Good luck.
                            They all look good on paper, huh? Still need the kids to put the ball in the basket (or not when it comes to the unders).

                            I agree that the over is not a play at 149. However, the average score of a college game this season is 148.4, so 150 isn't THAT high (depending on the teams, etc.).

                            Regardless, thanks for posting and for the well wishes.
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                            • HeeluvaGuy
                              SBR MVP
                              • 02-15-14
                              • 3449

                              #224
                              2-0 night. The Ohio game was a good example of why I think pace and possessions are so important. Kent shot 36.6% (and 8-18 from the FT line) but still managed to put up 67 points for us thanks to the pace of play.

                              38-32 (+4.56u)
                              Totals: 36-26
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                              • Flea Hotel
                                Restricted User
                                • 08-31-16
                                • 1732

                                #225
                                Great job. The last five mins of that Ohio game was hard to watch, as are a lot of the crappy D1 games. Nevertheless, great stuff.
                                Originally posted by HeeluvaGuy
                                2-0 night. The Ohio game was a good example of why I think pace and possessions are so important. Kent shot 36.6% (and 8-18 from the FT line) but still managed to put up 67 points for us thanks to the pace of play.

                                38-32 (+4.56u)
                                Totals: 36-26
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                                • Nb4537
                                  SBR Hustler
                                  • 12-23-16
                                  • 77

                                  #226
                                  Thanks for the picks HG,5-0 last 2 days.
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                                  • HeeluvaGuy
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 02-15-14
                                    • 3449

                                    #227
                                    Originally posted by Nb4537
                                    Thanks for the picks HG,5-0 last 2 days.
                                    Posting winners is what makes this fun. Best of luck today!
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                                    • HeeluvaGuy
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 02-15-14
                                      • 3449

                                      #228
                                      12:00 Depaul/Seton Hall o140.5 -110
                                      Last season’s games between these two teams finished with 146 and 152 points on 62 and 72 possessions (both games went over). I think we see at least 72 possessions in this one, which should be enough to get us over 140. Good free throw rates offensively and defensively for both teams will help, but I am a little concerned about Seton Hall’s percentage from the stripe. Kenpom has 70 possessions.
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                                      • HeeluvaGuy
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 02-15-14
                                        • 3449

                                        #229
                                        3:30 Mississippi St/LSU u153.5 -105
                                        I agree with Kenpom that this game should see about 72 possessions. At that pace, both teams would have to be far better offensively, and far worse defensively, than their season averages. I don’t see that happening today, especially for the Bulldogs offensively, who are playing their first true road game of the season (believe it or not). My model has 147, and I would be happy with that.
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                                        • HeeluvaGuy
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 02-15-14
                                          • 3449

                                          #230
                                          FYI, I'm working my way through as many games as I can based on start times. At some point I will have to step away and work on the late games as best I can later in the afternoon. I know that's not ideal for some, and it makes it tough if you're trying to manage the number of games you play today, but that's the best I can do with these big Saturday cards.
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                                          • HeeluvaGuy
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 02-15-14
                                            • 3449

                                            #231
                                            4:00 San Diego/Pepperdine u143.5 -110
                                            I should caveat any San Diego play with the fact that they can get hot or cold from 3 and play game that depart wildly from their averages. That said, I get a game with 70 or fewer possessions here (Kenpom has 67). At that pace, I think this stays under 144. Some of Pepperdine’s efficiency stats are skewed because they have played very good offensive teams and bad defensive teams. As long as San Diego doesn’t get hot from three (which is always a possibility in their games), I think these two play a game in the 60s. FWIW, only 1 of the last 10 meetings between these teams has gone over this number.
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                                            • doubledime
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 04-22-09
                                              • 9751

                                              #232
                                              Nice run Sir!
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                                              • HeeluvaGuy
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 02-15-14
                                                • 3449

                                                #233
                                                Thanks DD. Let's hope it becomes a run.

                                                Last one for a bit:

                                                4:30 Arkansas St/Coastal Carolina u142 -110
                                                This is an interesting line. Both teams average 72 possessions or so per game, which would normally lead me to pass on this under. However, looking closer, a lot of those possessions have been driven by opponents’ speed on offense. These two are both deliberate on the offensive end, which should lead to a game with 67 or 68 possessions (Kenpom says 68). At that pace, I don’t think these offenses can be efficient enough to get over 142.
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                                                • doubledime
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 04-22-09
                                                  • 9751

                                                  #234
                                                  Originally posted by HeeluvaGuy
                                                  Thanks DD. Let's hope it becomes a run.

                                                  Last one for a bit:

                                                  4:30 Arkansas St/Coastal Carolina u142 -110
                                                  This is an interesting line. Both teams average 72 possessions or so per game, which would normally lead me to pass on this under. However, looking closer, a lot of those possessions have been driven by opponents’ speed on offense. These two are both deliberate on the offensive end, which should lead to a game with 67 or 68 possessions (Kenpom says 68). At that pace, I don’t think these offenses can be efficient enough to get over 142.
                                                  We are matching up on this one. Good luck to both of us!!
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                                                  • Flea Hotel
                                                    Restricted User
                                                    • 08-31-16
                                                    • 1732

                                                    #235
                                                    Triple unit to 15USD everyone!
                                                    Originally posted by doubledime
                                                    We are matching up on this one. Good luck to both of us!!
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                                                    • HeeluvaGuy
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 02-15-14
                                                      • 3449

                                                      #236
                                                      Sorry for the late post ...

                                                      5:00 Troy/Georgia Southern u151.5 -110
                                                      I get 71-72 possessions at the most for this one, and at that rate I don't think these offenses can score enough to get over 150.
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                                                      • HeeluvaGuy
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 02-15-14
                                                        • 3449

                                                        #237
                                                        Another one within the hour ...

                                                        6:00 Ole Miss/Auburn o158 -105
                                                        I think this one might get up to 80 possessions or more. These two average 76.8 and 78.4 possessions per game, and they both could go a little faster. I love that both teams live at the free throw line.
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                                                        • HeeluvaGuy
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 02-15-14
                                                          • 3449

                                                          #238
                                                          I apologize for these scattered plays. Had to do some things after the morning games started and am playing a little catchup. Writeups are shorter, but these are not less researched.
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                                                          • doubledime
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 04-22-09
                                                            • 9751

                                                            #239
                                                            Originally posted by HeeluvaGuy
                                                            Another one within the hour ...

                                                            6:00 Ole Miss/Auburn o158 -105
                                                            I think this one might get up to 80 possessions or more. These two average 76.8 and 78.4 possessions per game, and they both could go a little faster. I love that both teams live at the free throw line.
                                                            We match again.
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                                                            • HeeluvaGuy
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 02-15-14
                                                              • 3449

                                                              #240
                                                              Caught a pretty rough beat in the Pepperdine game. 12 points in the final 38 seconds of a double digit game to lose by the hook. Life goes on...
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                                                              • HeeluvaGuy
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 02-15-14
                                                                • 3449

                                                                #241
                                                                Brutal afternoon/evening. Coastal game went over with 10 seconds left. Might call it a day the way the luck is running.
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                                                                • Fabiodog
                                                                  SBR Sharp
                                                                  • 03-17-13
                                                                  • 319

                                                                  #242
                                                                  Start fresh Sunday
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                                                                  • HeeluvaGuy
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 02-15-14
                                                                    • 3449

                                                                    #243
                                                                    Originally posted by Fabiodog
                                                                    Start fresh Sunday
                                                                    Yep. Late games didn't have a lot to offer anyway. Cheers
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                                                                    • HeeluvaGuy
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 02-15-14
                                                                      • 3449

                                                                      #244
                                                                      2-4 day, with 2 of the unders losing in the last 10 seconds. Got one back in the Ole Miss game where they scored about 37 points in the last 4 minutes. FWIW, I was pretty close with my possessions predictions for all but the LSU game, which was one of those where everything went against us. My points per possession were not good in those unders though.

                                                                      Thread: 40-36 (+2.21u)
                                                                      Totals only: 38-30
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                                                                      • HeeluvaGuy
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 02-15-14
                                                                        • 3449

                                                                        #245
                                                                        Quick update on my model ...

                                                                        After 412 plays over the past 5 days, the cummulative record (ATS and totals) is 213-199 (51.7%). Obviously that's nothing exciting, but here are two bright spots:

                                                                        Totals: 110-95 (53.66%)
                                                                        Overs: 77-53 (59.23%)

                                                                        I've calculated the final results each day using the closing lines at scoresandodds for consistency. Here's a link to the predictions and results for anyone interested in looking through it: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing
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