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  • Riceboi
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 10-03-11
    • 857

    #1506
    Originally posted by petters72
    Was Boston a 7/5 C-bet yesterday? Why did not anyone post it????????
    no boston B and C bets already came and gone. Boston was a system loss for the 7/5 betting method.

    and boston was a home game last night, wtf lol.
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    • thelimit0310
      SBR MVP
      • 01-24-11
      • 1233

      #1507
      As Riceboi has stated already Boston 7/5 Bet 2 has passed, it was played on the 18th.
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      • thelimit0310
        SBR MVP
        • 01-24-11
        • 1233

        #1508
        7/5 Plays DEC 19

        No Plays

        7/5 Plays DEC 20

        No Plays

        Results:
        Bet 1: 7-8
        Bet 2: 5-3
        Utah 11/2
        Portland 11/25
        Boston 12/14
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        • J.M. Disciple
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 11-16-10
          • 5154

          #1509
          There was a post in the other thread that said some thing about being able to quit your job if the system keeps going the way it is. Made me think about $100 unit bettors and how much they have made so far if following 3 systems; Wallco chase110, 7/5, and Stiffs, Following 3 systems blindly even though plays overlap quite often you would be up around 94 units or $9,400 if you started with a $10,000 bankroll. Only 1/3 of the way through the season and have almost 100% return on investment. Might as well kiss any 401k, stock, or other small investments away and focus on grinding out sports betting. Of course never quit your job and become professional sports bettor unless you have a massive unit size of $300 + to have a decent living.

          Keep this gravy train rolling.

          Also wanted to mention MLB for a second because people always talk about fading the public etc. I have been testing public trends for the top play of the day and it will take a while to get a 5 year test on it, but flat betting against the public at least the first few months of last season is extremely profitable.

          In my test I have been writing down the top team, date, and juice on each one. Lot of the public favorites range between -150 to -250 juice. Public through first few months of last season is hitting around 55% on their "top play." Which means betting the underdog other side even though lower win percentage basically prints money. Only short sample of course and maybe means nothing since bookies favorites did very poorly as we all seen through the On3 system. Just a note for those looking forward to printing money in MLB in the next few months.

          When I get my full backtest done some time next month ill be sure to post the excel sheet with the graphs. I am trying to test favorites as well as dogs to see how following and fading the public goes.

          GOod Luck on todays plays if any.
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          • J.M. Disciple
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 11-16-10
            • 5154

            #1510
            Limit, to avoid further questions cause I seen the Boston series mentioned twice yesterday and was answered several times. Maybe note the two losers in Red so people can see, at least some people will notice they were not a play. I'm sure questions will still be asked, but may limit the amount. Keep up the good work.
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            • Wallco99
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 01-01-11
              • 7261

              #1511
              Originally posted by J.M. Disciple
              There was a post in the other thread that said some thing about being able to quit your job if the system keeps going the way it is. Made me think about $100 unit bettors and how much they have made so far if following 3 systems; Wallco chase110, 7/5, and Stiffs, Following 3 systems blindly even though plays overlap quite often you would be up around 94 units or $9,400 if you started with a $10,000 bankroll. Only 1/3 of the way through the season and have almost 100% return on investment. Might as well kiss any 401k, stock, or other small investments away and focus on grinding out sports betting. Of course never quit your job and become professional sports bettor unless you have a massive unit size of $300 + to have a decent living.

              Keep this gravy train rolling.

              Also wanted to mention MLB for a second because people always talk about fading the public etc. I have been testing public trends for the top play of the day and it will take a while to get a 5 year test on it, but flat betting against the public at least the first few months of last season is extremely profitable.

              In my test I have been writing down the top team, date, and juice on each one. Lot of the public favorites range between -150 to -250 juice. Public through first few months of last season is hitting around 55% on their "top play." Which means betting the underdog other side even though lower win percentage basically prints money. Only short sample of course and maybe means nothing since bookies favorites did very poorly as we all seen through the On3 system. Just a note for those looking forward to printing money in MLB in the next few months.

              When I get my full backtest done some time next month ill be sure to post the excel sheet with the graphs. I am trying to test favorites as well as dogs to see how following and fading the public goes.

              GOod Luck on todays plays if any.
              It's only 79 units, but that's still good. Chase 110, Stifler, and 1/3/5, however, would be in the 90's.
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              • BuckeyeKaptn
                SBR Sharp
                • 11-16-12
                • 271

                #1512
                Originally posted by petters72
                Was Boston a 7/5 C-bet yesterday? Why did not anyone post it????????
                Download the spreadsheet for the JM plays and also get one for the NBA season. You will know all games for JM and if/when an "A" bet loses, Limit will tell you if it's a 7/5 play on the JM "B" bet. Not all JM "A" losses become 7/5 plays. Not quite sure exactly, something about the team losing by 3 points off that games spread. Close?, Limit, Wallco? Plus, you won't have to wait for steve to come and post the JM plays...he works late!!!
                Last edited by BuckeyeKaptn; 12-20-12, 05:00 PM.
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                • Wallco99
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 01-01-11
                  • 7261

                  #1513
                  Originally posted by BuckeyeKaptn
                  Download the spreadsheet for the JM plays and also get one for the NBA season. You will know all games for JM and if/when an "A" bet loses, Limit will tell you if it's a 7/5 play on the JM "B" bet. Not all JM "A" losses become 7/5 plays. Not quite sure exactly, something about the team losing by 3 points off that games spread. Close?, Limit, Wallco? Plus, you will have to wait for steve to come and post the JM plays...he works late!!!
                  The A bet has to lose by 3 1/2 points to the spread to make it a play. This allows for the JM buying three points plus an additional 1/2 point that was proven to be effective through backtest. I am back playing my 1/3/5 again. I was doing some math and it may actually outperform the others all season.
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                  • mgt_3
                    SBR High Roller
                    • 03-18-12
                    • 181

                    #1514
                    hey have any of ya'll had access to or seen JM's NBA is rigged system? And how good it is or has been? I know there's a play tonight based on the email I received from him today. Always marketing new shit, never ends.
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                    • Wallco99
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 01-01-11
                      • 7261

                      #1515
                      Originally posted by mgt_3
                      hey have any of ya'll had access to or seen JM's NBA is rigged system? And how good it is or has been? I know there's a play tonight based on the email I received from him today. Always marketing new shit, never ends.
                      Hagball said that it is a racist and lousy system.
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                      • J.M. Disciple
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 11-16-10
                        • 5154

                        #1516
                        Originally posted by mgt_3
                        hey have any of ya'll had access to or seen JM's NBA is rigged system? And how good it is or has been? I know there's a play tonight based on the email I received from him today. Always marketing new shit, never ends.
                        Ya based on white refs or some thing. losing system.
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                        • MARCUS
                          SBR Sharp
                          • 06-19-09
                          • 358

                          #1517
                          Originally posted by Wallco99
                          Hagball said that it is a racist and lousy system.

                          ...BINGO..from 2 other sources......i don't think dr. jm get's alot of referral sales.
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                          • J.M. Disciple
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 11-16-10
                            • 5154

                            #1518
                            Originally posted by Wallco99
                            It's only 79 units, but that's still good. Chase 110, Stifler, and 1/3/5, however, would be in the 90's.
                            Im on my phone so can't check exact numbers. thought stiff was +40ish, chase110 +24, and jm 24ish... ill trust your math since its precise 99% of the time. thanks for exact number.

                            Feel like Im missing out on profits cause i am only doing my own. Need to stop worrying about over lapping games and bet blind i guess.
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                            • J.M. Disciple
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 11-16-10
                              • 5154

                              #1519
                              Why did you decide jump back on 1-3-5? i know this year its way ahead, but overall?
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                              • Wallco99
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 01-01-11
                                • 7261

                                #1520
                                Originally posted by J.M. Disciple
                                Why did you decide jump back on 1-3-5? i know this year its way ahead, but overall?
                                Well, for starters there is 1 unit profit for every A bet win. The C bet wins in both systems are 5 units, so no losss there. The difference is the B bets. My way gets 3 units, 7/5 gets 7. The difference is 4 units for every B bet win. This is more than made up by the next three items:

                                1) Profits from all A bets.
                                2) B bet or C bet wins that the 7/5 system skipped, because the A bet covered the spread plus 3 1/2 points but did not cover the -110. (Yes, I may have a loss that 7/5 doesn't get also, I do understand that.
                                3) A loss in 1/3/5 is 4.39 units less than a 7/5 loss.

                                I am in no way demeaning the 7/5 method, I helped put it together at the beginning stages, and limit0310 did ALL the backtesting. But I am going to try this for a while and see how it goes. I did well the past two seasons and see no reason why it won't continue. There is no reason anyone should switch from 7/5 to 1/3/5 based on anything I have said. The 7/5 has been proven successful as well.
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                                • Wallco99
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 01-01-11
                                  • 7261

                                  #1521
                                  Wallco NBA Chase 110
                                  2012-13 System to date: 25-0 (fin. series)
                                  System profit/loss: +25.00 units (fin. series)
                                  Current open series: 1 (-3.41 units)

                                  v1 Plays
                                  (A) 17-9
                                  (B) 5-4

                                  (C) 3-0
                                  (D) 0-0


                                  Games for (12/21/12):
                                  #25 Atlanta @ Philadelphia (+2½) (C) (7:05 pm EST)
                                  #27 Washington @ Detroit (M/L) (A) (7:35 pm EST)


                                  We will ALWAYS play the M/L on favorites and the point spread (-110) on dogs.
                                  There is no point buying in this system, with one exception, if your team is the favorite, and buying down to a (-½) point spread is cheaper than playing the M/L, then by all means, buy the points, otherwise, M/L on all favorites and point spread on dogs. All results will be based on this principle. All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team, and who is the favorite on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines. I will try to update my post as often as I can throughout the day, if the lines change. However, it is the individual bettor’s responsibility to get the appropriate line if it differs from the line in my post.
                                  System rules and backtest can be found in post #219.
                                  Last edited by Wallco99; 12-21-12, 03:01 PM.
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                                  • hagball52
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 09-22-10
                                    • 3053

                                    #1522
                                    Originally posted by mgt_3
                                    hey have any of ya'll had access to or seen JM's NBA is rigged system? And how good it is or has been? I know there's a play tonight based on the email I received from him today. Always marketing new shit, never ends.
                                    Originally posted by Wallco99
                                    Hagball said that it is a racist and lousy system.
                                    Originally posted by J.M. Disciple
                                    Ya based on white refs or some thing. losing system.
                                    Originally posted by MARCUS


                                    ...BINGO..from 2 other sources......i don't think dr. jm get's alot of referral sales.
                                    I have JM's "rigged/racist" system on pdf. It's a joke. It has to do with the ratio of white to black players on a given team. He claims the refs will favor the team with more white players. He does not take into account for bi-racial players and only claims a better than 53% win ratio. Its good reading for a laugh.

                                    P.S. we tried running it in the JM NBA thread either last year or the year before and it was difficult to keep track of and it performed lousy.
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                                    • CrazyCarl
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 10-09-11
                                      • 1437

                                      #1523
                                      Originally posted by hagball52
                                      I have JM's "rigged/racist" system on pdf. It's a joke. It has to do with the ratio of white to black players on a given team. He claims the refs will favor the team with more white players. He does not take into account for bi-racial players and only claims a better than 53% win ratio. Its good reading for a laugh.

                                      P.S. we tried running it in the JM NBA thread either last year or the year before and it was difficult to keep track of and it performed lousy.
                                      Lol.
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                                      • bkric flaire
                                        SBR Rookie
                                        • 12-21-12
                                        • 12

                                        #1524
                                        i want to be apart of this money team can someone tell me what to risk on these play
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                                        • bkric flaire
                                          SBR Rookie
                                          • 12-21-12
                                          • 12

                                          #1525
                                          Originally posted by Wallco99
                                          Wallco NBA Chase 110
                                          2012-13 System to date: 25-0 (fin. series)
                                          System profit/loss: +25.00 units (fin. series)
                                          Current open series: 1 (-3.41 units)

                                          v1 Plays
                                          (A) 17-9
                                          (B) 5-4

                                          (C) 3-0
                                          (D) 0-0


                                          Games for (12/21/12):
                                          #25 Atlanta @ Philadelphia (**) (C) (7:05 pm EST)
                                          #27 Washington @ Detroit (M/L) (A) (7:35 pm EST)

                                          ** Denotes line not available at time of post


                                          We will ALWAYS play the M/L on favorites and the point spread (-110) on dogs. There is no point buying in this system, with one exception, if your team is the favorite, and buying down to a (-½) point spread is cheaper than playing the M/L, then by all means, buy the points, otherwise, M/L on all favorites and point spread on dogs. All results will be based on this principle. All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team, and who is the favorite on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines. I will try to update my post as often as I can throughout the day, if the lines change. However, it is the individual bettor’s responsibility to get the appropriate line if it differs from the line in my post.
                                          System rules and backtest can be found in post #219.
                                          from the looks of things you are the man i need to talk to can u please explain to me how this works
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                                          • thekidfanky
                                            SBR High Roller
                                            • 04-19-12
                                            • 236

                                            #1526
                                            Phill at +2 1/2
                                            Trying to recruit members via pm to split week subscription of a handicapper 1/11/13 annie
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                                            • bkric flaire
                                              SBR Rookie
                                              • 12-21-12
                                              • 12

                                              #1527
                                              Originally posted by thekidfanky
                                              Phill at +2 1/2
                                              is this the play for today
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                                              • bkric flaire
                                                SBR Rookie
                                                • 12-21-12
                                                • 12

                                                #1528
                                                Originally posted by hagball52
                                                I have JM's "rigged/racist" system on pdf. It's a joke. It has to do with the ratio of white to black players on a given team. He claims the refs will favor the team with more white players. He does not take into account for bi-racial players and only claims a better than 53% win ratio. Its good reading for a laugh.

                                                P.S. we tried running it in the JM NBA thread either last year or the year before and it was difficult to keep track of and it performed lousy.
                                                is there anyway you can update me on this thread i am very new to this
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                                                • Nino7
                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                  • 07-11-09
                                                  • 798

                                                  #1529
                                                  Are you guys playing several systems @1%+ each?
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                                                  • MARCUS
                                                    SBR Sharp
                                                    • 06-19-09
                                                    • 358

                                                    #1530
                                                    Originally posted by thekidfanky
                                                    Phill at +2 1/2

                                                    ..+1.5..2 in vegas..97% of $$ coming in on hawks..don't u love'it..bet the farm kids..sprinkle some on the 1st 1/2..
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                                                    • MARCUS
                                                      SBR Sharp
                                                      • 06-19-09
                                                      • 358

                                                      #1531
                                                      Originally posted by bkric flaire
                                                      is this the play for today

                                                      scooter,u need 2 spend a hour or so reading..u'll b glad u did..maybe?..u can do it at work..u'll appear bz..bol. ..if u get it..give points 2 the men who provide the work/plays at no cost..u have 6 2 give from asking the same ???
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                                                      • bkric flaire
                                                        SBR Rookie
                                                        • 12-21-12
                                                        • 12

                                                        #1532
                                                        you still didnt answer my question
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                                                        • Wallco99
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 01-01-11
                                                          • 7261

                                                          #1533
                                                          Originally posted by bkric flaire
                                                          i want to be apart of this money team can someone tell me what to risk on these play
                                                          Apart means "away from", if you seperate the two words (a part) you will be "part of". Kind of strange how a simple space can make that much difference, but it does.
                                                          Last edited by Wallco99; 12-21-12, 02:04 PM.
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                                                          • Wallco99
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 01-01-11
                                                            • 7261

                                                            #1534
                                                            Originally posted by bkric flaire
                                                            from the looks of things you are the man i need to talk to can u please explain to me how this works
                                                            Please don't quote the plays in your post. Thanks.
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                                                            • Wallco99
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 01-01-11
                                                              • 7261

                                                              #1535
                                                              Originally posted by bkric flaire
                                                              from the looks of things you are the man i need to talk to can u please explain to me how this works
                                                              Read the last line of my plays post. That will explain it.
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                                                              • Wallco99
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 01-01-11
                                                                • 7261

                                                                #1536
                                                                Originally posted by Nino7
                                                                Are you guys playing several systems @1%+ each?
                                                                Yes, $100 units on All plays.
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                                                                • bkric flaire
                                                                  SBR Rookie
                                                                  • 12-21-12
                                                                  • 12

                                                                  #1537
                                                                  you are right and i will not quote the plays again but i need you to verify my output on the posted plays. i understand this is a chase system and the atlanta play has a c by it which means this is a high risk high reward pick right? and the pistions bet is the start of a chase right? so am i wrong to lay 220 on the c bet and a small play of like 55 on the start of the chase
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                                                                  • TwoCats
                                                                    SBR High Roller
                                                                    • 07-14-12
                                                                    • 228

                                                                    #1538
                                                                    Originally posted by bkric flaire
                                                                    you are right and i will not quote the plays again but i need you to verify my output on the posted plays. i understand this is a chase system and the atlanta play has a c by it which means this is a high risk high reward pick right? and the pistions bet is the start of a chase right? so am i wrong to lay 220 on the c bet and a small play of like 55 on the start of the chase
                                                                    As has been said, READ the thread and understand the systems first. No-one can tell you how much to risk - there are suggestions made as to how much and why in the thread.
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                                                                    • Wallco99
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 01-01-11
                                                                      • 7261

                                                                      #1539
                                                                      Originally posted by bkric flaire
                                                                      you are right and i will not quote the plays again but i need you to verify my output on the posted plays. i understand this is a chase system and the atlanta play has a c by it which means this is a high risk high reward pick right? and the pistions bet is the start of a chase right? so am i wrong to lay 220 on the c bet and a small play of like 55 on the start of the chase
                                                                      You have to decide your unit amounts and stick with them for ALL plays. I would treat BOTH plays as an A bet if I were you. If we happen to lose this series, then you would still have two chances to win it that we wouln't have. Progressive betting method is explained in my #219 post. Please read it, I don't wish to explain the A, B, C, D bet amounts yet again.
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                                                                      • Wallco99
                                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                        • 01-01-11
                                                                        • 7261

                                                                        #1540
                                                                        Wallco NBA Chase 110
                                                                        2012-13 System to date: 25-0 (fin. series)
                                                                        System profit/loss: +25.00 units (fin. series)
                                                                        Current open series: 1 (-3.41 units)

                                                                        v1 Plays
                                                                        (A) 17-9
                                                                        (B) 5-4

                                                                        (C) 3-0
                                                                        (D) 0-0


                                                                        Games for (12/21/12):
                                                                        #25 Atlanta @ Philadelphia (+2½) (C) (7:05 pm EST)
                                                                        #27 Washington @ Detroit (M/L) (A) (7:35 pm EST)


                                                                        We will ALWAYS play the M/L on favorites and the point spread (-110) on dogs.
                                                                        There is no point buying in this system, with one exception, if your team is the favorite, and buying down to a (-½) point spread is cheaper than playing the M/L, then by all means, buy the points, otherwise, M/L on all favorites and point spread on dogs. All results will be based on this principle. All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team, and who is the favorite on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines. I will try to update my post as often as I can throughout the day, if the lines change. However, it is the individual bettor’s responsibility to get the appropriate line if it differs from the line in my post.
                                                                        System rules and backtest can be found in post #219.
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