John Morrison 2012-13 NBA Thread

[savelemony]

Hi Wallco, correct me if I am wrong but isn't Boston a Chase 110 A bet as well? They have lost thrice consecutively against the spread.

Posted the link for verification.

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[thelimit0310]

Can we please get an update on how the 7/5 method is doing compared to the rest? If this has been posted recently, I must have missed it.

7/5 is currently +30.66 units. This doesn't include the open series on Boston, the Bet 2 for that series is today.

[thelimit0310]

7/5 Plays DEC 17

No Plays

7/5 Plays DEC 18

Boston +1.5 vs Chicago - Bet 2

Results:
Bet 1: 7-8
Bet 2: 5-2
Utah 11/2
Portland 11/25

[jackoffalltrades]

Hi Wallco, correct me if I am wrong but isn't Boston a Chase 110 A bet as well? They have lost thrice consecutively against the spread.

Posted the link for verification.

covers.com/pageLoader/pageLoader.aspx?page=/data/nba/teams/pastresults/2012-2013/team404169.html

No, the Celtics won 12/12/12.

[wero76]

JM Plays....

Brooklyn (A)
Utah (A)

what a dick!!!!

[on3]

Utah loss, 23 days later, Portland loss. Now 23 days later, Boston Bet 2.

dun-dun-dun

Just messing around, good luck tonight everyone.

[BuckeyeKaptn]

JM Plays....

Brooklyn (A)
Utah (A)

what a dick!!!!

???

[Wallco99]

Wallco NBA Chase 110
2012-13 System to date: 24-0 (fin. series)
System profit/loss: +24.00 units (fin. series)
Current open series: 0


v1 Plays
(A) 16-8
(B) 5-3
(C) 3-0
(D) 0-0


Games for (12/18/12):
#25 Philadelphia (+6) @ Dallas (A) (8:35 pm EST)

** Denotes line not available at time of post


We will ALWAYS play the M/L on favorites and the point spread (-110) on dogs. There is no point buying in this system, with one exception, if your team is the favorite, and buying down to a (-½) point spread is cheaper than playing the M/L, then by all means, buy the points, otherwise, M/L on all favorites and point spread on dogs. All results will be based on this principle. All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team, and who is the favorite on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines. I will try to update my post as often as I can throughout the day, if the lines change. However, it is the individual bettor’s responsibility to get the appropriate line if it differs from the line in my post.
System rules and backtest can be found in post #219.

[clamchowder]

Is stevex still posting JM's plays.

[Brundle99]

???

They are playing eachother. JM really doesn't pay attention

[MARCUS]

3-team teaser..76'rs,celtics,nets..bol

[Wallco99]

They are playing eachother. JM really doesn't pay attention

It should be Charlotte and Utah.

[Brundle99]

It should be Charlotte and Utah.

[BuckeyeKaptn]

JM Plays....

Brooklyn (A)
Utah (A)

what a dick!!!!

My ??? was where did you get those 2 plays? Steve still hasn't posted them yet. I have a copy of the spreadsheet so I don't have to wait. Utah (v Brooklyn) and Charlotte (v LaLakers) are the plays. I looked back to see where you got Brooklyn (A)...didn't see it. No matter!!

[Brundle99]

My ??? was where did you get those 2 plays? Steve still hasn't posted them yet. I have a copy of the spreadsheet so I don't have to wait. Utah (v Brooklyn) and Charlotte (v LaLakers) are the plays. I looked back to see where you got Brooklyn (A)...didn't see it. No matter!!

It was in the latest JM email:

Sports Betting Champ-NBA System Bet(s) 12/18

Kyle,

Good job on cashing in with the Lakers! Today's system bets are:

Brooklyn [A] bet
Utah [A] bet

Remember to purchase 3 points for the team you're betting on.

Note that as long as the team you're betting on is able to cover
the point spread, you will win your wager, regardless if they had
won or lost the game. For example, if in the example above, Dallas
had a point spread of +7 after buying the points, and the final
score was Dallas 85, Toronto 91, then yes, you would have won the
bet since Dallas did not lose by more than 7 points.

One more thing to keep in mind is that sometimes you may not
immediately see the game available for betting on the betting site.
If this is the case, just wait and check back later during the day.

[Brundle99]

Obviously disregard my post, Wallco has the Correct plays.

[cambertos]

My ??? was where did you get those 2 plays? Steve still hasn't posted them yet. I have a copy of the spreadsheet so I don't have to wait. Utah (v Brooklyn) and Charlotte (v LaLakers) are the plays. I looked back to see where you got Brooklyn (A)...didn't see it. No matter!!

Jeeez man can you calm down? Stevex post's the plays when he gets home from work, so stop hassling

[stevex]

JM Traditional System

12/18/2012

V1

Current chase record W/OUT buying points: 15-1-1
Current chase record WITH buying 3 points: 16-1
Current series pending: 2

1. Charlotte Bobcats A Bet +12 @ LA Lakers (Risking 110 TO WIN 100)
Charlotte Bobcats A Bet (with buying 3 points) +15 @ LA Lakers

2. Utah Jazz A Bet +4.5 @ Brooklyn Nets (Risking 110 TO WIN 100)
Utah Jazz A Bet (with buying 3 points) +7.5 @ Brooklyn Nets

V2

Current chase record W/OUT buying point: 6-0
Current chase record WITH buying 3 points: 6-0
Current series pending: 1

1. Boston Celtics C Bet +1.5 @ Chicago Bulls (Risking 200 TO WIN 181)
Boston Celtics C Bet (with buying 3 points) +4.5 @ Chicago Bulls

V3

Current chase record W/OUT buying points: 22-1-3
Current chase record WITH buying 3 points: 26-0
Current series pending: 0

[J.M. Disciple]

Thanks to some of you who have my back, but ill take care of myself. This thread is mostly cluttered cause everyone wants to defend wallco or Limit on their post or people being confused about the system and what the plays are. I'll handle my own beef.

1) I only quoted limits post because there were no plays on the day, so if there are no spreads to post, then the post will not change. I have never quoted their "plays" when there are actually spreads to be posted or teams for that matter.

2) I am pretty sure some of you received emails from John Morrison last season or two seasons ago where he asked to take a vote on if the game should count as a loss or not. I believe this was when he incorporated his ML filter.

3) You (wallco & limit) talk about consistency in your back test, but want to negate a loss on the LAL game! yes Bet 2 was a push, but just because most people won on "replay of bet 2" does not negate the loss. Do other people make the rules for 7/5 now or does TheLimit?

Not counting it as a loss and than saying from this point forward if it happens again it will count as a loss sounds a lot like john morrison covering up losses or padding his record. It will still be a profitable season in the end, so covering up a 7 unit loss from bet1 to provide consistency is more important then padding a record I would think.

4) 7/5 is up 30 units you said? My system is still above that in less time. Of course I have had more plays, but yes you are right that your "system(S)" together are still doing better then mine; they also have high risk ratio. I might as well compare Stiff's + my system to your and wallco's system LOL. Whatever... its not a competition and I do not really care. Season to season mine will go above and beyond 7/5 on average. If you want it to be a competition you can go ahead and look at my thread at season end and compare it to 7/5.

Good Luck rest of the season.

PS
Just pretend I am not the one who wrote the response to LAL bet 1 being a loss, would it still be ignored? If Stiffler or grinder came in here and backtested 7/5 and got different unit amounts for their back test what would be the reason? "oh, it was a situation series where most people won so we counted it as a win..." Wallco weren't you on Stiffler for betting 2 units on A on a situational series on the spurs series? If you are going to complain about being consistent, than practice what you preach.

Good Night

[Wallco99]

The JM “System Strategy” Leader Board

These are the five different strategies that are currently being played by several of us. They are in order of most productive, but this by no means will necessarily be the order of success at season’s end.

¨ 1-3-5 (A,B,C – no point buy): (+59.44 units) / 1 open (-5.61 u)
¨ 3/3 (B,C – buy 3 points): (+32.33 units) / 1 open (-5.10 u)
¨ Traditional JM(A,B,C - buy 3 points): (+32.32 units) / 1 open (-6.29 u)
¨ Traditional JM -110 (A,B,C – no point buy): (+31.48 units) / 1 open (-3.41 u)
¨ 7/5 (B,C – no point buy): (+30.10 units) / 1 open (-7.70 u)

[Wallco99]

Thanks to some of you who have my back, but ill take care of myself. This thread is mostly cluttered cause everyone wants to defend wallco or Limit on their post or people being confused about the system and what the plays are. I'll handle my own beef.

1) I only quoted limits post because there were no plays on the day, so if there are no spreads to post, then the post will not change. I have never quoted their "plays" when there are actually spreads to be posted or teams for that matter.

2) I am pretty sure some of you received emails from John Morrison last season or two seasons ago where he asked to take a vote on if the game should count as a loss or not. I believe this was when he incorporated his ML filter.

3) You (wallco & limit) talk about consistency in your back test, but want to negate a loss on the LAL game! yes Bet 2 was a push, but just because most people won on "replay of bet 2" does not negate the loss. Do other people make the rules for 7/5 now or does TheLimit?

Not counting it as a loss and than saying from this point forward if it happens again it will count as a loss sounds a lot like john morrison covering up losses or padding his record. It will still be a profitable season in the end, so covering up a 7 unit loss from bet1 to provide consistency is more important then padding a record I would think.

4) 7/5 is up 30 units you said? My system is still above that in less time. Of course I have had more plays, but yes you are right that your "system(S)" together are still doing better then mine; they also have high risk ratio. I might as well compare Stiff's + my system to your and wallco's system LOL. Whatever... its not a competition and I do not really care. Season to season mine will go above and beyond 7/5 on average. If you want it to be a competition you can go ahead and look at my thread at season end and compare it to 7/5.

Good Luck rest of the season.

PS
Just pretend I am not the one who wrote the response to LAL bet 1 being a loss, would it still be ignored? If Stiffler or grinder came in here and backtested 7/5 and got different unit amounts for their back test what would be the reason? "oh, it was a situation series where most people won so we counted it as a win..." Wallco weren't you on Stiffler for betting 2 units on A on a situational series on the spurs series? If you are going to complain about being consistent, than practice what you preach.

Good Night

Yes, good night, don't be late for school, you may not get recess!! Bet 1 was a loss you idiot, bet 2 it the one that pushed and got replayed, the same way your idol Stifler does in his system. You remember, the guy you quote every chance you get. Once again, mind your own business since you don't play these systems anyway. And AS USUAL, your post is is full of inaccuracies and incorrect. Nobody is confused in here except you! And I would think that after the hundreds of times you have mentioned Stifler's name in the past few months, you would finally realize how to spell it.

[Riceboi]

well celtics are done.

[ChiLLx]

Celtics airmailed it in from the start and didn't even try to compete. Typical NBA lackluster effort you never know when these guys actually feel like playing.

[J.M. Disciple]

Yes, good night, don't be late for school, you may not get recess!! Bet 1 was a loss you idiot, bet 2 it the one that pushed and got replayed, the same way your idol Stifler does in his system. You remember, the guy you quote every chance you get. Once again, mind your own business since you don't play these systems anyway. And AS USUAL, your post is is full of inaccuracies and incorrect. Nobody is confused in here except you! And I would think that after the hundreds of times you have mentioned Stifler's name in the past few months, you would finally realize how to spell it.

Maybe I should post it in big letters for you since you have a eye sight problem or refuse to read correctly. Here is what I wrote below,just for you.

"so covering up a 7 unit loss from bet1 to provide consistency is more important then padding a record I would think."

Notice I said a replay of bet two, which means I realized it pushed! Please learn to read as you tell everyone else.

[J.M. Disciple]

I believe my statements of replaying bet two only if its a 4-5 game road trip would be a great rule for the system. Does not make sense to replay bet two of a home game because it is not based on streaks and can not be compared to stiff's system.

Once again your still a douche bag Wallco. Please read and try to understand these simple but complicated words.. HAHA

[Wallco99]

I believe my statements of replaying bet two only if its a 4-5 game road trip would be a great rule for the system. Does not make sense to replay bet two of a home game because it is not based on streaks and can not be compared to stiff's system.

Once again your still a douche bag Wallco. Please read and try to understand these simple but complicated words.. HAHA

You get dumber with every post. Not to mention, the Lakers were on the road in the replay game. So yet another one of your useless posts is clogging the thread.

[J.M. Disciple]

You get dumber with every post. Not to mention, the Lakers were on the road in the replay game. So yet another one of your useless posts is clogging the thread.

Maybe you didn't read my previous post on whether or not 7/5 should count the LAL as a loss. As said before the rule should be only IF its a 4-5 game road trip or longer you can replay your bets. If bet 2 is on the 3rd and final game of the road trip then it should count as a series loss. I understand the lakers had a 4-5 game road trip. That does not negate the fact that TheLimit said if it happens again it would count the series as a loss; he should apply a rule instead of being situation on whether or not most of the people won the bet or lost the bet.

The actual count of the system to make it consistent with the back test should be +23 units currently instead of +30 units because this is not a rule. Wallco, your beginning to look more and more stupid as you refuse to read.

[thelimit0310]

JMD, I did apply that rule. I'm going to clear this up for you instead of argue back. The Lakers Bet 2 was a PUSH officially, not a loss. Because they had another road game in their trip we would replay Bet 2 because it PUSHed, not lost. The replay won officially, so Bet 2 is now a WIN. There was never a question of whether or not to count it as a loss because neither bet lost. When I said I would count the next situation as a loss, what I meant was that if this type of situation occurs again, Bet 2 pushes, but then the subsequent Bet 2 Replay lost (the difference here is the Replay loses, not wins like what happened with the Lakers), I would count the series as a loss, not a push. Just as I counted this series as a win, not a push. This is the rule. It was not padding the unit count in any way.

[lennytia]

I've been following this system/s silently for past two years, and there has been constant bitching for that duration.
I have to say there is a common denominator, and it ain't JM Disciple.

Cut the bullshit guys

[touch04]

Celtics airmailed it in from the start and didn't even try to compete. Typical NBA lackluster effort you never know when these guys actually feel like playing.

I didn't want to say it earlier, but the Boston play really worried me. I know you can't let your emotions dictate system bets but today it did. I took the 7 unit loss on the Celtics and did not play them today, what I did do was to do a 2 unit parlay on Phillis, Charlotte and Utah paying $6.70 and lost by 0.5pt on the 6ers.
Hate that!!!!!

[alexknyc]

I believe my statements of replaying bet two only if its a 4-5 game road trip would be a great rule for the system.

And I believe you ought to back test things like this before posting them.

[CrazyCarl]

Utah loss, 23 days later, Portland loss. Now 23 days later, Boston Bet 2.

dun-dun-dun

Just messing around, good luck tonight everyone.

Beware of January 11th!!!!

[wmu35]

7/5 System

Can somebody please direct me to a post that has the 7/5 sytem rules, or just explain them here?

Thanks

[Wallco99]

I've been following this system/s silently for past two years, and there has been constant bitching for that duration.
I have to say there is a common denominator, and it ain't JM Disciple.

Cut the bullshit guys

Pay attention. Right now it is.

[Wallco99]

Can somebody please direct me to a post that has the 7/5 sytem rules, or just explain them here?

Thanks

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