John Morrison 2011-12 NBA Thread

[thelimit0310]

Very surprised to see the Knicks not only not cover but lose by such a huge margin to GSW.

[petermans23]

Why are you surprised 0310?

Haven´t you learned through the years that the Knicks can never be trusted? When you expect them to win they lose, and the opposite. Nothing new.

[pagodo]

Question for everyone playing B and C bets only. Are you playing in accordance with the ML filter or the 3 points. In the case of the Bulls since they won ML they'd be out the picture for a B but if your going by points you were on B and now pending C. I don't think it'll make a big difference in the end but there's definitely a chance a play wins ML and fails to cover the remaing games.

I will be playing (B) and (C) @ -110 if (A) fails to cover the spread with three points bought.

I haven't been playing it yet and will probably start tomorrow with the Toronto v3 series, but Chicago would be a no-play for me (I would have had them at -1.5, so they would have covered the +1.5).

[Andy3568]

Haha Just got this:

Andy,

We're going to have our first bet of this NBA season in just a few days. Just a heads up for you to stay tuned! I fully expect us to go 100% undefeated throughout the entirety of this NBA season!

All the best,
John Morrison, PhD

PO Box 30175
Worcester, MA 01603
Usa

[DollarBill10]

JM NBA road System
Since 12/25/2011
Add 1 unit to the line for each new series
Unit size $10
Record:2-3 [ATS]
Series record 2-0
Profit: -$37.32
Units in play: 7.6
Total Series: 5

Labby Line: $16.03 / $16.03 / (-35.27) +$10 (new series starting)
New Line: $25.79 / $25.79 / $25.79 (averaged)

12/28/2011 10:35 PM NBA Basketball 719 New York Knicks* -3 -110 vs Golden State Warriors
Risking $35.27 To Win $32.06 -- Loss

Upcoming bets:
12/29/11 Chicago Bulls [C] vs Sac betting to clear 2 #s since its a C
12/29/11 NJN [A] vs ORL betting to clear 1 #

12/29/2011 7:05 PM NBA Basketball 501 New Jersey Nets* +11½ -110 vs Orlando Magic
Risking $28.37 To Win $25.79
12/29/2011 10:05 PM NBA Basketball 509 Chicago Bulls* -7½ -110 vs Sacramento Kings
Risking $56.74 To Win $51.58

***These two wins will clear the line and put us up 4 units on the season. ***

JM, what about the NY Knicks (B) bet tonight?

[Maxi_EV]

@-335 on CHI. ML

Buying 3 pts should be the option!

[juice050]

Why are you surprised 0310?

Haven´t you learned through the years that the Knicks can never be trusted? When you expect them to win they lose, and the opposite. Nothing new.

as a knick fan i have to agree with you on this one. i say this though, they will play good against lakers watch and see. mello wont have a bad game twice in a row.

[thelimit0310]

V1 NY KNICKS -2 @ Golden State (A) LOSS

RESULTS PER VERSION

Version 1
A: 1-2
B: 0-1
C: 0-0

Version 2
A: 0-0
B: 0-0
C: 0-0

Version 3
A: 1-0
B: 0-0
C: 0-0

Totals
A: 2-2
B: 0-1
C: 0-0

[thelimit0310]

December 29

V1 NY KNICKS +7 @ LA Lakers (B)
V1 CHICAGO -4.5 @ Sacramento (C)
V3 NEW JERSEY +14.5 @ Orlando (A)

Note: All plays are posted with 3 points bought. ML will not be taken on favs greater than -3.

[J.M. Disciple]

I didn't see the Knicks B bet so added a new line to my labby....

JM NBA road System
Since 12/25/2011
Add 1 unit to the line for each new series
Unit size $10
Record:2-3 [ATS]
Series record 2-0
Profit: -$37.32
Units in play: 7.6
Total Series: 5


New Line: Line 1) $25.79 / $25.79 / $25.79 (averaged)
Line 2: 5 / 5 / 5 / 5

12/29/2011 7:05 PM NBA Basketball 501 New Jersey Nets* +11½ -110 vs Orlando Magic
Risking $28.37 To Win $25.79

12/29/2011 10:05 PM NBA Basketball 509 Chicago Bulls* -7½ -110 vs Sacramento Kings
Risking $56.74 To Win $51.58

12/29/2011 10:35 PM NBA Basketball 511 New York Knicks* +1 -110 vs Los Angeles Lakers for 1st Quarter
Risking $11.00 To Win $10.00

***These two wins will clear the line and put us up 4 units on the season. ***

[keemosabi]

I'm somewhat new to this system, and I've been following the discussion about the ML filter/buying 3 points, but which method has shown more success? Does anyone have records for either/both system modifications?

[hagball52]

Haha Just got this:

Andy,

We're going to have our first bet of this NBA season in just a few days. Just a heads up for you to stay tuned! I fully expect us to go 100% undefeated throughout the entirety of this NBA season!

All the best,
John Morrison, PhD

PO Box 30175
Worcester, MA 01603
Usa

Got the same email. Notice how he says "I fully expect" instaed of "no doubt". It seems like he's been tamed a little since all of his systems have taken a beating lately.

[stevex]

Lets make some money tonight fellas, best of luck!

[J.M. Disciple]

I'm somewhat new to this system, and I've been following the discussion about the ML filter/buying 3 points, but which method has shown more success? Does anyone have records for either/both system modifications?

All 3 ways: Labby, buy 3pts, and ML will all have about the same net income unless there are multiple losses in the season in which case labby will prevail, but you can bet that the line will be quite big with a couple 20 unit bets if there are a couple losses in a row. Labby players are mostly playing the -110 odds if you choose to follow that way.

Buy 3pts or ML will clear lines faster, but also increase your line interms of bet size.
Playing -110 ATS will allow your bet size to stay small, but may take a little longer to clear your line.

All depends how well you can handle variance. I try to think of it as a savings account or 401k and just print money slowly.

--Love the Labby --
JMD

[and24]

I didn't see the Knicks B bet so added a new line to my labby.... JM NBA road System Since 12/25/2011 Add 1 unit to the line for each new series Unit size $10 Record:2-3 [ATS] Series record 2-0 Profit: -$37.32 Units in play: 7.6 Total Series: 5 New Line: Line 1) $25.79 / $25.79 / $25.79 (averaged) Line 2: 5 / 5 / 5 / 5 12/29/2011 7:05 PM NBA Basketball 501 New Jersey Nets* +11½ -110 vs Orlando Magic Risking $28.37 To Win $25.79 12/29/2011 10:05 PM NBA Basketball 509 Chicago Bulls* -7½ -110 vs Sacramento Kings Risking $56.74 To Win $51.58 12/29/2011 10:35 PM NBA Basketball 511 New York Knicks* +1 -110 vs Los Angeles Lakers for 1st Quarter Risking $11.00 To Win $10.00 ***These two wins will clear the line and put us up 4 units on the season. ***

JM, i couldn't find in this thread, did you ever mention about your banroll size, i mean how many units should a bankroll be if someone bets on your plays by using labby just like you?

[thelimit0310]

and24

I know I'm not JMD but just wanted to share my 2 cents. As you can see with some consecutive losses the labby can double or triple in size fairly easily. I find its usually safest to go for 2% of your bankroll as a unit or lower. So if your bank was $500, your unit size could be $10 or less.

Just my opinion on that subject

[keemosabi]

For anyone who knows more than I do about the NBA, would you take the Bulls at -8?

[ChiLLx]

Wow the Nets are absolute scrubs, one more layup would've won that A bet.

[stevex]

Will get that Nets B bet tomorrow, no worries. We still got the Knicks tonight.

[juice050]

knicks are fuckin horrible omg and im a knicks fan. just pathetic.

[knugen]

Nets B bet today, Any new series starting?

[pagodo]

Nets B bet today, Any new series starting?

Raptors
(v3)

[J.M. Disciple]

JM NBA road System
Since 12/25/2011
Add 1 unit to the line for each new series
Unit size $10
Record:3-5 [ATS]
Series record 3-0
Profit: -$25.11
Units in play: 9.5
Total Series: 6

New Line: Line 1) $13.60 / $13.60 / $13.60 / $13.60 / $13.60 / $13.60 / $13.60 /

*Chi cleared two #s yesterday out of the 3 #s we had on line one. Then nets did not cover, so i added that loss to the end of the line.
*on line two NYK didn't cover, so i put the $11 loss at end of the line plus added a unit for the toronto Series starting.
*i couldn't decide what series i liked more so i combined the two lines together.

* I think every thing is up to date now.

12/30/2011 7:35 PM NBA Basketball 807 New Jersey Nets* +11½ -110 vs Atlanta Hawks
Risking $29.92 To Win $27.20
12/30/2011 8:35 PM NBA Basketball 815 Toronto Raptors* +8½ -110 vs Dallas Mavericks
Risking $29.92 To Win $27.20

December
25 Boston V3 W
25 Chicago V1 W
26 Philadelphia V1 W
28 New York V2 Pending
29 New Jersey V3 Pending
30 Toronto V3 Pending

[J.M. Disciple]

Bankroll size in sports betting in general should be between 1-2%. I think if your only following 1 system, then you could risk up to 4% on a fresh labby line. If your following more then 1 system, then I would listen to Thelimit and only do 1-2%.

Good Luck today Ladies and Gents.

--JMD

[Andy3568]

Contrats to everyone who made the "C" bet on the Bulls, i.e. those who don't use the ML filter.

Another "C" bet coming up: Knicks vs. Kings on 12/31/11

[Andy3568]

I hate to throw any more systems into the thread, but this one's pretty simple, so I'll mention it. Actually, it's nothing new. It's something Wilba mentioned last year about simply betting the spread on every double-digit dog. I backtested it to 2005-2006 season, and there was only one season (2007 - 2008) where it lost money. It's not a chase. Just bet one unit on each game. Actually, if you labby it, it'll probably be even more profitable.

This season, there have only been two best so far, and both have lost (Jazz & Nets), but there are two coming up tonight (Pistons & Nets), so you can start following it tonight if you want to jump in.

Just thought I'd mention it.

[Maxi_EV]

JM NBA road System
Since 12/25/2011
Add 1 unit to the line for each new series
Unit size $10
Record:3-5 [ATS]
Series record 3-0
Profit: -$25.11
Units in play: 9.5
Total Series: 6

New Line: Line 1) $13.60 / $13.60 / $13.60 / $13.60 / $13.60 / $13.60 / $13.60 /

*Chi cleared two #s yesterday out of the 3 #s we had on line one. Then nets did not cover, so i added that loss to the end of the line.
*on line two NYK didn't cover, so i put the $11 loss at end of the line plus added a unit for the toronto Series starting.
*i couldn't decide what series i liked more so i combined the two lines together.

* I think every thing is up to date now.

12/30/2011 7:35 PM NBA Basketball 807 New Jersey Nets* +11½ -110 vs Atlanta Hawks
Risking $29.92 To Win $27.20
12/30/2011 8:35 PM NBA Basketball 815 Toronto Raptors* +8½ -110 vs Dallas Mavericks
Risking $29.92 To Win $27.20

December
25 Boston V3 W
25 Chicago V1 W
26 Philadelphia V1 W
28 New York V2 Pending
29 New Jersey V3 Pending
30 Toronto V3 Pending

Can you identify the plays as A B C

[DollarBill10]

Can you identify the plays as A B C

Nets = B
Raptors = A

[knugen]

Nets is B bet and raptors is bet A

[stevex]

Lets pick up a couple more wins tonight fellas...

[ChiLLx]

Lets pick up a couple more wins tonight fellas...

I hope so. But the Nets don't make me feel to good, lost to the same Hawks team by 40+ a few days ago.

[stevex]

Wouldn't be to worried about the Hawks. They can win by 40 and just as well lose by 40 to so...

[thelimit0310]

V1 NY KNICKS +7 @ LA Lakers (B) LOSS
V1 CHICAGO -4.5 @ Sacramento (C) WIN
V3 NEW JERSEY +14.5 @ Orlando (A) LOSS

RESULTS PER VERSION

Version 1
A: 1-2
B: 0-2
C: 1-0

Version 2
A: 0-0
B: 0-0
C: 0-0

Version 3
A: 1-1
B: 0-0
C: 0-0

Totals
A: 2-3
B: 0-2
C: 1-0

[thelimit0310]

December 30

V3 NEW JERSEY +14.5 @ Atlanta (B)
V3 TORONTO +11.5 @ Dallas (A)

All plays are posted with 3 points bought. ML will not be taken on favorites greater than -3.

[Win89]

Anybody see the game last night? Kobe did work on the knicks although a disappointing loss.