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  • TrafalgarLaw
    SBR High Roller
    • 03-07-11
    • 134

    #1261
    SA-IND - 68+81=149 and if you bet on under 146.5 - you loose
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    • kobstopa
      SBR MVP
      • 02-21-11
      • 2965

      #1262
      Originally posted by TrafalgarLaw
      SA-IND - 68+81=149 and if you bet on under 146.5 - you loose
      actually i got it at 149.5 but didnt updated it, dont worry too much about it, we moved on to the next one.
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      • Bell Curves
        SBR Sharp
        • 06-20-11
        • 348

        #1263
        Parlays?
        Tomorrow's games all suck. Line makers tilted the lines away from the favorites, and I don't like betting dogs early.
        Connecticut under might be worth it at 150.
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        • Ethan
          Restricted User
          • 02-14-11
          • 375

          #1264
          goodluck to us
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          • burgi
            SBR Sharp
            • 10-22-10
            • 324

            #1265
            Stars - Sun Under 150.5 looks good??
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            • kobstopa
              SBR MVP
              • 02-21-11
              • 2965

              #1266
              Originally posted by Bell Curves
              Parlays? Tomorrow's games all suck. Line makers tilted the lines away from the favorites, and I don't like betting dogs early. Connecticut under might be worth it at 150.
              Originally posted by burgi
              Stars - Sun Under 150.5 looks good??
              I agree this look like a good spot, I wouldn't be surprised it moves down to 148.5 etc.
              Tulsa/Sea is also a good spot, under at 141.5 I think they should be 129.5 for a sharp line
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              • Bell Curves
                SBR Sharp
                • 06-20-11
                • 348

                #1267
                Originally posted by kobstopa
                I agree this look like a good spot, I wouldn't be surprised it moves down to 148.5 etc. Tulsa/Sea is also a good spot, under at 141.5 I think they should be 129.5 for a sharp line
                Tulsa/Sea always looks like it'll go under (crap offense/great defense), but they usually end up going over with Seattle scoring alot. I'll probably wait and see what happens.
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                • kobstopa
                  SBR MVP
                  • 02-21-11
                  • 2965

                  #1268
                  [ATTACH]31178[/ATTACH]

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                  San Antonio at Conn
                  A physical game is common with SA, both at home and on the road. They love to challenge shots, pressure the balls and cause bad rhythms and yield a poor FG % overall. On the other hand, CT likes their low post game to their strength and defense perimeter shots to the teeth. In their last game, they had easily covered a 6 points line easily at home against a 2-8 road record Sky with a sub .500.

                  Take under 151.5
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                  Atlanta at Phoenix
                  Two of the most high scoring teams in the league will meet 2nd time in the valley of the sun. Phx had beaten
                  Lynx at home and did so with a good defensive effort.

                  Take under 186.5
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                  Tulsa at Seattle
                  Storm is back at home & usually put a strong effort especially from a tough road stretch, but very few time that they will ever cover 13 points+ ATS. It's looked impossible for Tulsa to win here, but the best they can do is keeping it close and hope to get lucky in dying minutes of the game.

                  Tulsa +13.5
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                  • Bell Curves
                    SBR Sharp
                    • 06-20-11
                    • 348

                    #1269
                    Phoenix is playing Atlanta not Minnesota. It says that in your projection box, but your writeup talks about Phoenix and Minn.
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                    • kobstopa
                      SBR MVP
                      • 02-21-11
                      • 2965

                      #1270
                      Originally posted by Bell Curves
                      Phoenix is playing Atlanta not Minnesota. It says that in your projection box, but your writeup talks about Phoenix and Minn.
                      I am aware of that, I refer to phx's last game at home where they've beaten Lynx with defensive & this mind set will most likely carry over to this game as well.
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                      • kobstopa
                        SBR MVP
                        • 02-21-11
                        • 2965

                        #1271
                        Basketball - International Match
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                        Turkey vs Ukraine
                        Two strong offensive teams, Ukraine had recent matches with Jordan 104:75, Belarus 78:82 and Estonia 93:89
                        Turkey is solid with small forward and 2 guard. We should expect a 88-73 Turk win.

                        Take Over 150.5 Points


                        _____________________________
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                        • Bell Curves
                          SBR Sharp
                          • 06-20-11
                          • 348

                          #1272
                          Originally posted by kobstopa
                          I am aware of that, I refer to phx's last game at home where they've beaten Lynx with defensive & this mind set will most likely carry over to this game as well.
                          Sorry for misunderstanding -- Phoenix and Minn are 1 and 2 in terms of high scoring so I thought of them immediately. Atlanta is above average at number 5.

                          Originally posted by kobstopa
                          Basketball - International Match _____________________________ Turkey vs Ukraine Two strong offensive teams, Ukraine had recent matches with Jordan 104:75, Belarus 78:82 and Estonia 93:89 Turkey is solid with small forward and 2 guard. We should expect a 88-73 Turk win. Take Over 150.5 Points _____________________________
                          Line was originally 148.5, and I thought over was a no-brainer given how high scoring Ukraine matches were, but Turkey hasn't played in a year. But line seems to be set low on purpose. I'll probably place a very small bet on the over. Good luck.

                          Also, do you know why Germany totals dipped 6 points?
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                          • kobstopa
                            SBR MVP
                            • 02-21-11
                            • 2965

                            #1273
                            I'm not sure why ger dip 6 pts. I don't have much info on this game anyway. Could it be dirk or karmen are not in it.
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                            • kobstopa
                              SBR MVP
                              • 02-21-11
                              • 2965

                              #1274
                              Originally posted by kobstopa
                              [ATTACH]31178[/ATTACH]

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                              San Antonio at Conn
                              Take under 151.5
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                              Atlanta at Phoenix
                              Two of the most high scoring teams in the league will meet 2nd time in the valley of the sun. Phx had beaten
                              Lynx at home and did so with a good defensive effort.

                              Take under 186.5
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                              Tulsa at Seattle
                              Storm is back at home & usually put a strong effort especially from a tough road stretch, but very few time that they will ever cover 13 points+ ATS. It's looked impossible for Tulsa to win here, but the best they can do is keeping it close and hope to get lucky in dying minutes of the game.

                              Tulsa +13.5
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                              San Antonio 72, Connecticut 59
                              Phoenix 109, Atlanta 95
                              Seattle 77, Tulsa 63
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                              • kobstopa
                                SBR MVP
                                • 02-21-11
                                • 2965

                                #1275
                                [ATTACH]31204[/ATTACH]
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                                • Bell Curves
                                  SBR Sharp
                                  • 06-20-11
                                  • 348

                                  #1276
                                  I think Chicago + points is might be worth it, but they've struggled lately and I'm not sure if 5 points is enough. In the Phoenix/LA match, how important is Tolliver to LA?

                                  Also, what has been the effect of back to back road games on totals so far?
                                  Which effect is stronger?
                                  1) Team is tired so they can't play solid defense, thus they get scored on more and total goes up.
                                  2) Team is tired so they don't shoot as well, thus they make less basketballs themselves and total goes down.
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                                  • kobstopa
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 02-21-11
                                    • 2965

                                    #1277
                                    Originally posted by Bell Curves
                                    I think Chicago + points is might be worth it, but they've struggled lately and I'm not sure if 5 points is enough. In the Phoenix/LA match, how important is Tolliver to LA?

                                    Also, what has been the effect of back to back road games on totals so far?
                                    Which effect is stronger?
                                    1) Team is tired so they can't play solid defense, thus they get scored on more and total goes up.
                                    2) Team is tired so they don't shoot as well, thus they make less basketballs themselves and total goes down.
                                    No play from me tomorrow,
                                    but lean toward Chi +4.5, at home they really can play & they try to prepare themselves against contenders such as Ind(which they had won) as we are more than half way of the season already

                                    NY will win & cover -3.5
                                    Phoenix/LA, it's a back to back for Phx but it's only 1 hour flight from Arizona to LA, it's still in westcoast.
                                    Phx is one unpredictable, like today against ATL, it was an all out scoring fest while they understood that defensive is a key ingredient to control the game flow, especially against jump-shooting teams, but I think it's also can come down to the fact that they will not have enough time to at least have some practice on the play court to have a good feel of it, strategise game plan etc
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                                    • kobstopa
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 02-21-11
                                      • 2965

                                      #1278
                                      Originally posted by kobstopa
                                      Basketball - International Match
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                                      Turkey vs Ukraine
                                      Two strong offensive teams, Ukraine had recent matches with Jordan 104:75, Belarus 78:82 and Estonia 93:89
                                      Turkey is solid with small forward and 2 guard. We should expect a 88-73 Turk win.

                                      Take Over 150.5 Points

                                      result: 69-65 Turk
                                      _____________________________
                                      Basketball - International Match

                                      Matches coming up

                                      Serbia v Ukraine
                                      Germany v Turkey
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                                      • kobstopa
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 02-21-11
                                        • 2965

                                        #1279
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                                        Serbia v Ukraine
                                        These are two low post teams, it's no question that this will be a physical match up. I expect the coach of Serbian national team Dušan Ivković to bring Olympiacos's style of defense which also match up well aganst Ukraine's coach Mike "The Czar" Fratello. In previous game, Ukraine committed 25 turnovers vs just 7 for Turkey, at half time they were 15 points behind but yet managed to lose by 5 points.

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                                        Take under 142.5
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                                        Germany v Turkey

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                                        Take under 139.5
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                                        • Bell Curves
                                          SBR Sharp
                                          • 06-20-11
                                          • 348

                                          #1280
                                          Both lines moved away on Pinnacle, so I took Ukraine +11 instead. I think Serbia is over-valued at the moment after watching them play the last few times.
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                                          • Bell Curves
                                            SBR Sharp
                                            • 06-20-11
                                            • 348

                                            #1281
                                            Ok I'm wrong. Ukraine came out in the second half looking to give the game away; another unit donated to the books. I hope you cash your unders, but I'm going to stop betting International basketball because I have no idea what I'm doing.
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                                            • kobstopa
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 02-21-11
                                              • 2965

                                              #1282
                                              Serbia v Ukraine
                                              These are two low post teams, it's no question that this will be a physical match up. I expect the coach of Serbian national team Dušan Ivković to bring Olympiacos's style of defense which also match up well aganst Ukraine's coach Mike "The Czar" Fratello. In previous game, Ukraine committed 25 turnovers vs just 7 for Turkey, at half time they were 15 points behind but yet managed to lose by 5 points.

                                              Team Serbia

                                              Result full time: 83-57
                                              Take under 142.5
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                                              Germany v Turkey
                                              result:
                                              Result half time: 43-35
                                              Result full time: 79-72
                                              Take under 139.5
                                              ____________________________[/quote]
                                              result:
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                                              • kobstopa
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 02-21-11
                                                • 2965

                                                #1283
                                                Originally posted by Bell Curves
                                                Ok I'm wrong. Ukraine came out in the second half looking to give the game away; another unit donated to the books. I hope you cash your unders, but I'm going to stop betting International basketball because I have no idea what I'm doing.
                                                what happen here, the Serb had mess it up, against Germany they have sat out 4 of their starters and their coach was mad like hell when they lost it. And then they took on Ukraine with full strength. Look at players minutes here:



                                                Also the German is played a lot better then people think, their offensive came out against turkey & they had killed my 2 ways parlay here.

                                                I forget to post other game & as expected per discussed in the other thread, finland is to win against hungary & sure enough:

                                                Game: Hungary vs Finland
                                                Time: 19:00
                                                Result half time: 37-37
                                                Result full time: 73-75
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                                                • Bell Curves
                                                  SBR Sharp
                                                  • 06-20-11
                                                  • 348

                                                  #1284
                                                  Yea I missed that. They sat out Kristic, Tripkovic, and some other guys vs Germany. They struggled against Ukraine in first half too, but Ukraine played worse than Tulsa in the second half, so I stopped watching.
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                                                  • Bell Curves
                                                    SBR Sharp
                                                    • 06-20-11
                                                    • 348

                                                    #1285
                                                    Very interested to see your projections for tomorrow's games. Every single angle, power rating, and trend points to Seattle blow-out, but line came out at -3. Seems too obvious to be true, especially since books have been extremely sharp with WNBA lately.
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                                                    • kobstopa
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 02-21-11
                                                      • 2965

                                                      #1286
                                                      Originally posted by Bell Curves
                                                      Very interested to see your projections for tomorrow's games. Every single angle, power rating, and trend points to Seattle blow-out, but line came out at -3. Seems too obvious to be true, especially since books have been extremely sharp with WNBA lately.
                                                      We can make profit by follow some consistency patterns & certainty, losing any of these it's just a plain 50/50 gambling & a suicide mission and it's a good thing I had stayed away today. But in a reverse logic it too can work, but that's a concept in itself.

                                                      Anyway, I am not sure where you saw that -3 line, I am seeing -6 to sea -6.5 will that make it a lesser danger? it will be a win for storm almost certain 99%, but in what way ? I can see it by 6 & also by 9 points as well.
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                                                      • Bell Curves
                                                        SBR Sharp
                                                        • 06-20-11
                                                        • 348

                                                        #1287
                                                        Originally posted by kobstopa
                                                        We can make profit by follow some consistency patterns & certainty, losing any of these it's just a plain 50/50 gambling & a suicide mission and it's a good thing I had stayed away today. But in a reverse logic it too can work, but that's a concept in itself. Anyway, I am not sure where you saw that -3 line, I am seeing -6 to sea -6.5 will that make it a lesser danger? it will be a win for storm almost certain 99%, but in what way ? I can see it by 6 & also by 9 points as well.
                                                        Chicago did end up covering the spread today, but I bet Minnesota for 1H instead, which won as well.
                                                        Pinnacle opened their Seattle line at -3, but t moved to -6.5, and then back to -6. It seems for some reason like they arn't afraid at all to take big action on Seattle. I see something like over 80% of the money is on Seattle right now. The line should be at -8/-9 by now, and I've been burned a couple times already betting a side that's too obvious, so I guess I'll pass on the game line. Seattle will probably win, but I don't think I'll be betting on them to cover 6.
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                                                        • kobstopa
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 02-21-11
                                                          • 2965

                                                          #1288
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                                                          New York at Indiana
                                                          Thing will get worse before it's getting better for New York as they had not only loss twice to Mystics but will play a back to back game at the eastern's leader home court. Indiana with a 10-2 at home will look to take advantage of NY's tilt and further their lead to secure home court and league lead.

                                                          Take Indiana -6.5
                                                          Take over 146.5

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                                                          Wash at Conn
                                                          Another team with a back to back game with a short celebration, Mystics's season had been all but over about 5 games ago, these're pretenders, play just as hard as a playoff bound team and enrich experience for their young players BullShit. But when they're down 10 by the half, will sure to toss the tower, couldn't be bother with a meaningless road game and head for the shower as there are sight seeing to do in Mohegan sun and pick up with they had left off with cool and the gang's let's celebration & partying all night. Hey this had been a tough season for them what's else can they do?.

                                                          Conn -10.5
                                                          Take under 151.5

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                                                          Atlanta at Seattle
                                                          Sue bird's give away special game, she's coming out. It's a new defensive scheme to slow down Angel McCoughtry and I think it will work really well too. Atlanta is slipping in the east, they just wanna get away to the next one in LA, a team they can beat.

                                                          Take under 153.5
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                                                          • Bell Curves
                                                            SBR Sharp
                                                            • 06-20-11
                                                            • 348

                                                            #1289
                                                            Nice writeup on Wash@Conn. Exactly what I was thinking haha. Mohegan is the real reason why Connecticut's home record is so good.
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                                                            • Bell Curves
                                                              SBR Sharp
                                                              • 06-20-11
                                                              • 348

                                                              #1290
                                                              Ok I couldn't just stand around anymore and let this opportunity slip by. Took Atlanta +5.5 2H.
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                                                              • kobstopa
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 02-21-11
                                                                • 2965

                                                                #1291
                                                                down at least 7 units today, we'll see a recuperation in week or so
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                                                                • Bell Curves
                                                                  SBR Sharp
                                                                  • 06-20-11
                                                                  • 348

                                                                  #1292
                                                                  Originally posted by kobstopa
                                                                  down at least 7 units today, we'll see a recuperation in week or so
                                                                  Your picks are 2/5 today right? I'll assume it wasn't WNBA.
                                                                  Two games tomorrow. There should be some decent opportunities.
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                                                                  • kobstopa
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 02-21-11
                                                                    • 2965

                                                                    #1293
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                                                                    San Antonio vs Chicago
                                                                    Star is consistent with their defense, almost like a trade mark where they would force a low scoring
                                                                    with disruptive of shooting rhythm against any teams and should be dominant at home against a poor road team such as Chicago.

                                                                    SA -6.5
                                                                    Take Under 148.5


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                                                                    Minnesota v Tulsa

                                                                    Take Under 153.5
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                                                                    • Bell Curves
                                                                      SBR Sharp
                                                                      • 06-20-11
                                                                      • 348

                                                                      #1294
                                                                      SA could play good defense, but losing Adams seems to have hurt them more alot more than losing a normal bench player. Both teams are struggling at the moment. I took SA -6 early, but the line moved to -5 already, not good.

                                                                      What do you think about Tulsa +16.5? I know Minnesota can easily beat Tulsa by 30+ points, but don't think they would want to, especially with the way they have been cruising through games lately.
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                                                                      • bleek88
                                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                        • 01-12-11
                                                                        • 6385

                                                                        #1295
                                                                        Be careful with your Lynx -17 pick. I have a feeling the Shock just might come to play.
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