I don't have time to track and play the Q bets. So, I'm going to use game bets only. If someone wants to track and play the Q and H using the progression, feel free.
Boston -250 4.5 to win 1.8 units Win +1.8 units
Orlando -400 7.2 to win 1.8 units Win +1.8 units
New York Knicks +400 1 to win 4 units Loss -1 unit
Chicago Bulls -430 19 to win 4.5 units Win +4.5 units
Spurs -150 4.5 to win 3 units Win +3 units
Dallas to win 5 units (no line set, calculate the units to risk when the line is set) Loss -33 units
Denver to win 5 units (no line set, calculate the units to risk when the line is set) Win +5 units
I won't be around much today, if at all
I added this play later on: Knicks +8 1/2 -110 2.2 units to win 2 units Win +2 units
6-2 -16 units
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Whippit
Restricted User
04-29-10
3065
#317
Originally posted by curious
Dallas to win 5 units (no line set, calculate the units to risk when the line is set)
Denver to win 5 units (no line set, calculate the units to risk when the line is set)
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curious
Restricted User
07-20-07
9093
#318
Wed Dec 29
Washington -2 1/2 -110 1.1 to win 1
Atlanta (No line posted right now)
Charlotte (No line posted right now)
Boston -6 1/2 -110 2.75 to win 2.5
OKC (No line posted right now)
New Orleans +2 1/2 -110 1.1 to win 1
Minnesota (No line posted right now)
Houston +4 1/2 -110 1.1 to win 1
Phoenix (No line posted right now)
Memphis -4 -110 1.65 to win 1.5
Utah -2 1/2 -110 3.3 to win 3
I will update Atlanta, Charlotte, OKC, Minnesota, and Phoenix when the lines post.
As you notice I am not doing MLs today.
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play
Restricted User
12-13-10
168
#319
What a pity on Dallas, for me too!
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curious
Restricted User
07-20-07
9093
#320
Atlanta -6 1/2 -110 5 to win 4.5
Charlotte -7 1/2 -110 3.3 to win 3
OKC -9 -110 5.5 to win 5
Minnesota -1 1/2 -110 1.1 to win 1
Phoenix -5 -110 3.3 to win 3
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chaseman
SBR MVP
01-06-09
1195
#321
My 1Q plays were a failure yesterday. Let's see what happens when I consider the last 3 1Q stats along with any recent match-ups between the teams. If the home/away numbers are close (+/- 2), and there is a big discrepancy in the last 3, then I'm picking whoever's hot. I probably won't play these, but I'll use it as an experiment.
1Q:
Atlanta
Cleveland
Boston
New Jersey (This one is a play because of a <3 difference in home/away, NJ will be a 1Q dog, and a difference of 6 in the team's last 3, respectively)
New Orleans (Lakers -8 last 3, NO +3 last 3)
Denver (Denver +8 last 3, Minn -3.3)
LA Clippers
1H:
Atlanta
Charlotte
Boston
LA Clippers
Let's see what happens.
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curious
Restricted User
07-20-07
9093
#322
Originally posted by chaseman
My 1Q plays were a failure yesterday. Let's see what happens when I consider the last 3 1Q stats along with any recent match-ups between the teams. If the home/away numbers are close (+/- 2), and there is a big discrepancy in the last 3, then I'm picking whoever's hot. I probably won't play these, but I'll use it as an experiment.
1Q:
Atlanta
Cleveland
Boston
New Jersey (This one is a play because of a <3 difference in home/away, NJ will be a 1Q dog, and a difference of 6 in the team's last 3, respectively)
New Orleans (Lakers -8 last 3, NO +3 last 3)
Denver (Denver +8 last 3, Minn -3.3)
LA Clippers
1H:
Atlanta
Charlotte
Boston
LA Clippers
Let's see what happens.
One thing that may have merit. But you would have to look at the year to date stats on it, is look at all the games in terms of who won each Half. What we found before was that the team that loses the first Half wins the second Half. The site that I used to use for all this stuff is not active any more. Not sure where you can validate this idea. I think at most books you can play the 2nd Half after the 1st Half is over.
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curious
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07-20-07
9093
#323
Originally posted by curious
Washington -2 1/2 -110 1.1 to win 1 Win +1
Atlanta (No line posted right now)
Charlotte (No line posted right now)
Boston -6 1/2 -110 2.75 to win 2.5 Loss -2.75
OKC (No line posted right now)
New Orleans +2 1/2 -110 1.1 to win 1 Loss -1.1
Minnesota (No line posted right now)
Houston +4 1/2 -110 1.1 to win 1 Loss -1.1
Phoenix (No line posted right now)
Memphis -4 -110 1.65 to win 1.5 Loss -1.65
Utah -2 1/2 -110 3.3 to win 3 Win +3
I will update Atlanta, Charlotte, OKC, Minnesota, and Phoenix when the lines post.
As you notice I am not doing MLs today.
-2.6
Atlanta -6 1/2 -110 5 to win 4.5 Win +4.5
Charlotte -7 1/2 -110 3.3 to win 3 Win +3
OKC -9 -110 5.5 to win 5 Win +5
Minnesota -1 1/2 -110 1.1 to win 1 Loss -1.1
Phoenix -5 -110 3.3 to win 3 Loss -3.3
5-6 +5.5 units
Hmmmm, not too shabby. We'll try spreads again tomorrow.
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curious
Restricted User
07-20-07
9093
#324
Thursday Dec 30
New York +8 -110 1.1 to win 1
San Antonio (No line yet, will be playing the spread)
Utah (No line yet, will be playing the spread)
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curious
Restricted User
07-20-07
9093
#325
NOTE** On the plays in the previous post, I am assuming that San Antonio and Utah are going to get a good line. If their opponent gets a great line I may switch. I'll post these plays when the lines are set.
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7secondsOrLess
SBR MVP
03-26-10
1576
#326
i thought you kill NBA NCAA etc every season with MLs why are u stopping now
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curious
Restricted User
07-20-07
9093
#327
Originally posted by 7secondsOrLess
i thought you kill NBA NCAA etc every season with MLs why are u stopping now
Because past results do not predict future results in gambling and it looks like things have changed. This may only be temporary. We'll see. Feel free to continue playing MLs, let us know how you do.
This might be temporary, or it might be permanent, we'll have to see. So, your approach is to keep blindly doing what you are doing regardless of what reality is? Great approach.
So, you really would have rather went 5-6 last night with a loss instead of a 5 unit profit? That's better how?
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curious
Restricted User
07-20-07
9093
#328
Update
San Antonio -2 1/2 -110 1.1 to win 1
Utah +1 -110 1.1 to win 1
Now I have three plays risking 3.3 to win 3, which means of course that I go 3-0 tonight. LOL And if I had a large number of units at risk I would go 0-3. LOL
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Shark79
SBR Posting Legend
11-19-07
11211
#329
Curious,
You have 2 plays posted, but mention 3 plays risking (is one a parly with both plays?).
Leans are SA and Portland ML.
GL tonite.
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curious
Restricted User
07-20-07
9093
#330
Originally posted by Shark79
Curious,
You have 2 plays posted, but mention 3 plays risking (is one a parly with both plays?).
Leans are SA and Portland ML.
GL tonite.
I know it is confusing but the idiot mods put a restriction on my account where I cannot modify posts, I have to make a new post. I wish the idiots would just ban me. There pets phuck with me and then I get sick of it so I retaliate, then the mods screw with my account and leave their pets alone. I left SBR for over a year because of this stupidity.
Look at post #324 and post #328
post #324
New York +8 -110 1.1 to win 1
San Antonio (No line yet, will be playing the spread)
Utah (No line yet, will be playing the spread)
post #328
Update
San Antonio -2 1/2 -110 1.1 to win 1
Utah +1 -110 1.1 to win 1
Now I have three plays risking 3.3 to win 3, which means of course that I go 3-0 tonight. LOL And if I had a large number of units at risk I would go 0-3. LOL
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Shark79
SBR Posting Legend
11-19-07
11211
#331
My bad for not reading more.
Backing you up on that SA play.
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chaseman
SBR MVP
01-06-09
1195
#332
Originally posted by chaseman
My 1Q plays were a failure yesterday. Let's see what happens when I consider the last 3 1Q stats along with any recent match-ups between the teams. If the home/away numbers are close (+/- 2), and there is a big discrepancy in the last 3, then I'm picking whoever's hot. I probably won't play these, but I'll use it as an experiment.
1Q:
Atlanta
Cleveland
Boston
New Jersey (This one is a play because of a <3 difference in home/away, NJ will be a 1Q dog, and a difference of 6 in the team's last 3, respectively)
New Orleans (Lakers -8 last 3, NO +3 last 3)
Denver (Denver +8 last 3, Minn -3.3)
LA Clippers
1H:
Atlanta
Charlotte
Boston
LA Clippers
Let's see what happens.
1Q plays went 3-4. We had a rare occasion where a team (Boston) did not win a single Q (they pushed 4Q). Obviously they lost 2H as well. Denver lost 1Q and covered 2Q. Cleveland and New Orleans didn't win until 4Q. 1H plays went 3-1. 6-5 overall. Boston would have murdered us if we chased.
I'm not using a set system as far as which plays I'm picking--I'm more or less just eyeing the numbers and deciding between home/away and last 3. From now on I'll label the plays by the discrepancies in "Last 3" or "Home/away" or "Both" to see which makes the biggest difference. I'll also look at chasing the 2H after a 1H loss as well as chasing after a 1Q loss and see how that works out. I might also look at not playing 1Q and just chasing the loser of the 1Q as well. I'm sure this isn't exactly how you picked your 1Q and 1H plays, so this may be helpful or it may not be.
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chaseman
SBR MVP
01-06-09
1195
#333
12/30
1Q:
Orlando (Home +4.2/Knicks away -1.9, knicks last 3 -5.3)
Portland (home +2.5/Jazz away -5.5, jazz last 3 -3.3, jazz 2nd worse in 2010 overall 1Q)
1H:
Orlando (home/away, Orlando is top 1H team)
Dallas (home +5.2/Spurs away -3.6)
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play
Restricted User
12-13-10
168
#334
Idiots mods or idiot you?
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xxbadazxx
SBR High Roller
12-29-08
133
#335
GL today curious
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ejfel01
SBR Sharp
06-17-10
301
#336
Hey, congrats on your own thread Curious.
I'm your huge fan... I'd never had the guts to play those amounts that you do
Go get 'em
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curious
Restricted User
07-20-07
9093
#337
Originally posted by play
Idiots mods or idiot you?
I will let you decide. I was going to go to the SBR bash one year. My beautiful wife was going to come with me. Some idiots on here started threatening to rape my wife if we came to the bash. I got upset and told them off. I had several restrictions put on my account, nothing was done to the idiots.
So, you tell me, idiot mods or idiot Curious?
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TakeIt
SBR Wise Guy
04-23-10
778
#338
Originally posted by chaseman
We had a rare occasion where a team (Boston) did not win a single Q (they pushed 4Q).
I might also look at not playing 1Q and just chasing the loser of the 1Q as well.
in the last 14 days, chasing the loser of the 1stQ lost the next 3 quarters 15 out of 109 games or 14% of the time.
not so "rare" after all, huh...
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curious
Restricted User
07-20-07
9093
#339
Originally posted by ejfel01
Hey, congrats on your own thread Curious.
I'm your huge fan... I'd never had the guts to play those amounts that you do
Go get 'em
I started out in sports betting playing small, but I was lucky. The first bet I made was 100% of bank. LOL. I was following a handicapper whose picks I bought. The bet won. So, I doubled my bank. This guy had an amazing baseball season.
I was very lucky. I can imagine that if I tried the same thing now I would lose that one big bet. LOL
Over time I have added to the bank from my consulting work, so I am not saying that the bank grew all on its own, but I became more confident, and the early wins helped.
Find an approach that works well and don't overbet your bank and over time your bank will get to the level where you can bet big. It might take several seasons.
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curious
Restricted User
07-20-07
9093
#340
Originally posted by TakeIt
in the last 14 days, chasing the loser of the 1stQ lost the next 3 quarters 15 out of 109 games or 14% of the time.
not so "rare" after all, huh...
Can any of those teams be thrown out? Or are the losses across all teams?
In the previous years we never saw a team losing all 4 quarters so often.
What if you didn't press the losses but came back as same bet?
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chaseman
SBR MVP
01-06-09
1195
#341
Originally posted by TakeIt
in the last 14 days, chasing the loser of the 1stQ lost the next 3 quarters 15 out of 109 games or 14% of the time. not so "rare" after all, huh...
Thanks for running that stat. I suppose it isn't exactly rare but 14% isn't great either. Did you happen to notice if any certain teams were prone to lose all four quarters more than others? And some of those 14% would not even be actual plays based on the numbers I use.. so that percentage would most likely be lower. Thanks though, that is helpful to know.
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7secondsOrLess
SBR MVP
03-26-10
1576
#342
Originally posted by curious
Because past results do not predict future results in gambling and it looks like things have changed. This may only be temporary. We'll see. Feel free to continue playing MLs, let us know how you do.
This might be temporary, or it might be permanent, we'll have to see. So, your approach is to keep blindly doing what you are doing regardless of what reality is? Great approach.
So, you really would have rather went 5-6 last night with a loss instead of a 5 unit profit? That's better how?
i do not play MLs like you do i was just asking because you said that you will keep playing that way even though many has told you MLs will kill u
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curious
Restricted User
07-20-07
9093
#343
Originally posted by 7secondsOrLess
i do not play MLs like you do i was just asking because you said that you will keep playing that way even though many has told you MLs will kill u
That isn't what I said. What I said was that in the past playing MLs worked great for me even though all the "experts" don't like MLs. I don't start an NBA season until 25% of the games are over. This year MLs are not working, I am stopping playing them temporarily to figure out why they are not working. I never said that I would keep playing them even if they weren't working. I said I would not stop them just because a bunch of crackheads told me so. You aren't a crackhead are you?
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curious
Restricted User
07-20-07
9093
#344
Originally posted by chaseman
Thanks for running that stat. I suppose it isn't exactly rare but 14% isn't great either. Did you happen to notice if any certain teams were prone to lose all four quarters more than others? And some of those 14% would not even be actual plays based on the numbers I use.. so that percentage would most likely be lower. Thanks though, that is helpful to know.
Compared to prior years 14% is a huge number. That is very strange. Perhaps not increasing the play on the ones who lose would be the correct approach. For example, if you lose the 2nd Quarter the 3rd Quarter bet is same bet. Not sure what to do for the 4th Quarter though. Same bet?
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curious
Restricted User
07-20-07
9093
#345
Originally posted by TakeIt
in the last 14 days, chasing the loser of the 1stQ lost the next 3 quarters 15 out of 109 games or 14% of the time.
not so "rare" after all, huh...
14 days doesn't mean anything. But that is a large percentage compared to previous years.
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EasyHustlin
SBR Wise Guy
07-15-10
633
#346
Boston lost all 4 quarters the other night in large part because Kevin Garnett left early with an injury. So that game is easily taken out of the equation to anyone with common sense.
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curious
Restricted User
07-20-07
9093
#347
Originally posted by curious
San Antonio -2 1/2 -110 1.1 to win 1 Win +1
Utah +1 -110 1.1 to win 1 Loss -1.1
New York +8 -110 1.1 to win 1 Loss -1.1
Loss -1.2
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curious
Restricted User
07-20-07
9093
#348
Friday December 31
Boston ?? -110 5 to win 4.5
Charlotte -2 1/2 -110 2.2 to win 2
Indiana -6 -110 5.5 to win 5
Chicago -10 -110 6.6 to win 6
Houston -9 -110 5 to win 4.5
OKC -5 -110 2.2 to win 2
Phoenix ?? -110 3.3 to win 3
Lakers ?? -110 5 to win 4.5
I'll update Boston, Phoenix, and the Lakers when they post tomorrow
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Goat Milk
BARRELED IN @ SBR!
03-24-10
25850
#349
ill take the nets for 300 points
Cause Sleep is the Cousin of Death
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TakeIt
SBR Wise Guy
04-23-10
778
#350
Originally posted by curious
Can any of those teams be thrown out? Or are the losses across all teams?
across all teams--including a loss by boston and the lakers.