WNBA Interview with Right Angle Sports

**SexyMit** · 05-23-10, 07:32 PM

Originally posted by Reload

Is this based on lines given at the time of the play or closing lines?

Both... It doesn't matter what line he gave or the closer they both have lost.

**Joe Dogs** · 05-23-10, 08:56 PM

Interesting thread..........Good stuff.

**darkenergy** · 05-23-10, 09:04 PM

Originally posted by SexyMit

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What can I do to make you change your avatar SM

. It really freaking me out sometime when cross by your message ......late at night

**SexyMit** · 05-23-10, 09:13 PM

Originally posted by darkenergy

What can I do to make you change your avatar SM

. It really freaking me out sometime when cross by your message ......late at night

LOL everyone says the samething. I like it, keeps you on your toes.

**darkenergy** · 05-23-10, 09:21 PM

No sh*t, put back Jessica Alba bro......begging you

**SexyMit** · 05-23-10, 09:53 PM

Originally posted by darkenergy

No sh*t, put back Jessica Alba bro......begging you

I miss her also... I might have too.

**darkenergy** · 05-23-10, 09:57 PM

There some points for your time, go ahead and do it tonight.
Can't get you do anything for free anymore.......................

Just kidding man.

**RoagBettor** · 05-23-10, 10:31 PM

SexyMit received a Court Order from Jessica's lawyers! He's barred from using her pic in his avatar!

**sweetjones55** · 05-23-10, 11:45 PM

Originally posted by sweetjones55

Ed how do you insure that all your members get the same line you put out and not the highly inflated line once you put out a play if the line moves in less than 10 seconds?

I really would like to know the answer to this, does anyone know? TodaysAction?

**RoagBettor** · 05-23-10, 11:53 PM

There's no way they can get the same line. It happened to us today, we moved the totals line on our member play by at 2-3 points, so if you have to get to the key number you pay the juice. If the play loses, you're losing more than a normal unit bet.

That's why I keep saying the only stat that matters is are your customers making money!

**SportsAddict** · 05-24-10, 12:43 AM

**Dwell** · 05-24-10, 12:28 PM

Originally posted by RoagBettor

There's no way they can get the same line. It happened to us today, we moved the totals line on our member play by at 2-3 points, so if you have to get to the key number you pay the juice. If the play loses, you're losing more than a normal unit bet. That's why I keep saying the only stat that matters is are your customers making money!

It's very possible. I have gotten his line more times than not. You just have to have a quick trigger.

**SexyMit** · 05-24-10, 12:36 PM

Originally posted by Dwell

It's very possible. I have gotten his line more times than not. You just have to have a quick trigger.

Who is going to want to wait around the computer with their trigger finger ready to click submit once he releases his play? I know I sure don't... I have a life and it doesn't involve sitting in front of computer waiting for someone to release a play!

**RoagBettor** · 05-24-10, 01:25 PM

Originally posted by Dwell

It's very possible. I have gotten his line more times than not. You just have to have a quick trigger.

Oh, I'm certain some people get it. But I would bet that over 50% don't.

**suicidekings** · 05-24-10, 01:55 PM

Originally posted by SexyMit

I miss her also... I might have too.

5 more points for Jessica Alba.

**gator101** · 05-24-10, 02:22 PM

Originally posted by SRBI

I can actually confirm this as BT was the first sports betting forum I ever used.

BT was a cool spot for some time until all the good cappers suddenly began disappearing left and right, and the only excuse Ed would tell members is, "these people did not use proper tracking methods and therefore cannot be a part of the BT forum".

Its all bullshit, what really happened here is Ed started losing business because of the good guys got shook n started banning them left and right. He finally banned me as well after I created a thread on this same exact topic.

Ed can't take the heat, his sports packages are whack, and his marketing attempts even more pathetic.

RAS

Cant say it any better, you took the words right out of my mouth. Then he said you can not record picks unless they are from certain books, think it was bookmaker and 5dimes. Anyone after that who posted either got banned or there post deleted. Now i see he is trying to recruit some guys iceman and couple others. One guy says he is a professional gambler and does it for a living but never once gave out a pick? That place is going down hill in a quick way

UP ED............

**SexyMit** · 05-24-10, 03:55 PM

Originally posted by suicidekings

5 more points for Jessica Alba.

Damn I keep getting points I'm going to have to put her back up... LOL

**Emily_Haines** · 05-24-10, 04:21 PM

Originally posted by SexyMit

Who is going to want to wait around the computer with their trigger finger ready to click submit once he releases his play? I know I sure don't... I have a life and it doesn't involve sitting in front of computer waiting for someone to release a play!

delete

**Flight** · 05-24-10, 09:40 PM

RoagBettor what service are you from?

**Edward-RAS** · 05-25-10, 12:41 AM

Originally posted by SRBI

I can actually confirm this as BT was the first sports betting forum I ever used.

BT was a cool spot for some time until all the good cappers suddenly began disappearing left and right, and the only excuse Ed would tell members is, "these people did not use proper tracking methods and therefore cannot be a part of the BT forum".

Its all bullshit, what really happened here is Ed started losing business because of the good guys got shook n started banning them left and right. He finally banned me as well after I created a thread on this same exact topic.

Ed can't take the heat, his sports packages are whack, and his marketing attempts even more pathetic.

RAS

Talk about complete bullshit, this post is it. These people really think that I ban good posters from my forum because I think they are taking away from my handicapping business? Get real.

"His sports packages are whack".... REALLY? +129.05 units of profit against WA lines and transparent recordkeeping over the past two CFB and CBB seasons is whack? Get real.

We have been trying to give BT more of a sharper slant in recent months. A small group of prominent posters did not see eye to eye with the new direction of the forum and subsequently have left or were banned. We obviously have different views on who is a "good capper" and why certain posters were banned. With the popular CBB/CFB/WNBA second half thread at the top of the forum, a solid infusion of new sharp posters, and a good mix of holdovers, we could not be any happier with the present state of the forum.

**gator101** · 05-25-10, 04:24 PM

Originally posted by Edward-RAS

Talk about complete bullshit, this post is it. These people really think that I ban good posters from my forum because I think they are taking away from my handicapping business? Get real.

"His sports packages are whack".... REALLY? +129.05 units of profit against WA lines and transparent recordkeeping over the past two CFB and CBB seasons is whack? Get real.

We have been trying to give BT more of a sharper slant in recent months. A small group of prominent posters did not see eye to eye with the new direction of the forum and subsequently have left or were banned. We obviously have different views on who is a "good capper" and why certain posters were banned. With the popular CBB/CFB/WNBA second half thread at the top of the forum, a solid infusion of new sharp posters, and a good mix of holdovers, we could not be any happier with the present state of the forum.

Then why did you banned all the listed people that i will list shortly? first it was AAA, Brians a former mod on your site, keyelement, rudyNYC, Bigdog ME gator101, ETC ETC ETC. Then the best one my friend that was using my computer Phantom99 he asked a question then next thing you know he is banned for life. You can hate on me ed, but that is totally bullshit that you ban him for asking a question on your site about a Sports Book that he couldnt get into. Who do you really have left, all i here is the bet#&*g ^a*& is going to shit and there is no good poster's on there. you dug your own grave and ran everyone out now you have to live with it. Keep up the good work with your WNBA

Last i heard you were on fire, keep up the good work, lol. Funny thing is we actually use to get along really good and i respected you and i think **** versa. But as i continue to here that you are continuning to kick good cappers from your site for no apparent reason. Don't know if its hurting your service or not. But that is the only answer i can come up with along with alot of other people. Enough said have a good day

**sweetjones55** · 06-09-10, 03:07 PM

Halfway through this year, a year in which you asked the members to pay more for your package after having a nonprofitable year last year, and you are 18-20 at -5.75 UNITS and 2-5 on your biggest sized plays. Will you be giving refunds or does the fact that your members are getting +1.64 Average Line Value makeup for the losses?

**GRUMPERZ** · 06-09-10, 03:15 PM

look for the thread on 2+2 for what a POS RAS really is.

**brumbies** · 06-09-10, 08:34 PM

Originally posted by sweetjones55

Halfway through this year, a year in which you asked the members to pay more for your package after having a nonprofitable year last year, and you are 18-20 at -5.75 UNITS and 2-5 on your biggest sized plays. Will you be giving refunds or does the fact that your members are getting +1.64 Average Line Value makeup for the losses?

Good question. I am curious too RAS.

**Edward-RAS** · 06-09-10, 09:05 PM

Regardless of the attempts to discredit us on this and other forums, we will continue to work hard to provide services that not only produce long term win rates that are competitive with any one in the industry, but at the same time educate our subscribers about concepts that are critical to the success of any sized sports bettor, including but not limited to closing line value, money management, variance, and how to evaluate handicappers.

Despite our WNBA record through the first 48 plays of this season, I would not trade our team, methods, or information sources with anyone.

**sweetjones55** · 06-09-10, 09:21 PM

Originally posted by Edward-RAS

Regardless of the attempts to discredit us on this and other forums, we will continue to work hard to provide services that not only produce long term win rates that are competitive with any one in the industry, but at the same time educate our subscribers about concepts that are critical to the success of any sized sports bettor, including but not limited to closing line value, money management, variance, and how to evaluate handicappers.

Despite our WNBA record through the first 48 plays of this season, I would not trade our team, methods, or information sources with anyone.

Great politically correct answer but you have yet to justify any price increase in your wnba package after the nonprofitable season last year and the continuing of your nonprofitability halfway through this year. You are trying to sell people on positive line value and now you're talking about teaching "concepts". People just want winners, +55% +15 units and that's all that matters.

**RoagBettor** · 06-09-10, 09:33 PM

Ed, you are a master of deflection. Your WNBA service runs until July 23. You are staring at another losing season unless you go on a monumental winning streak. No one has to discredit your service, you guys are doing a great job all by yourself.

Sweetjones put it into proper perspective: it's all about winning. If I want an education, I'll go back to school.

**Edward-RAS** · 06-09-10, 10:47 PM

One thing you can count on is never seeing anyone from RAS jump into an SBR interview thread and start bashing the handicapper while trying to draw attention to themselves. You will also never see anyone from RAS write e-mails to other services and post them on our forum. We have a lot more class than that.

You guys should really stop being so concerned with what RAS/HoopsEdge is doing and focus more on yourselves.

The quality of our plays has not been reflected in our results so far this year, but as I said, I would not trade our team, methods, or information sources with anyone.

**texhooper** · 06-09-10, 11:43 PM

SO JUST WHO IS THE BEST WNBA CAPPING SERVICE THIS YEAR???!!! ONLY TIME WILL TELL!!!

carry on.

**suicidekings** · 06-09-10, 11:58 PM

It does appear that subscribers are not getting their money's worth so far this year, but that can change pretty quickly. The second half of the season may result in a profit and a net gain for the season. However if it doesn't I would hope RAS is willing to make it up to their subscribers in some way. It is gambling, but even services such as this one need to maintain credibility. It's just business.

**texhooper** · 06-10-10, 12:44 AM

Originally posted by suicidekings

It does appear that subscribers are not getting their money's worth so far this year, but that can change pretty quickly. The second half of the season may result in a profit and a net gain for the season. However if it doesn't I would hope RAS is willing to make it up to their subscribers in some way. It is gambling, but even services such as this one need to maintain credibility. It's just business.

not necessarily. the tout world is more about marketing than anything else. how many touts have legitimate winning records? also, if edward couldn't charge as much as he does, he wouldn't have any customers. in addition to that, the people who buy from him were not held at gunpoint to do so. they have every right in the world to not renew their membership (or whatever it's called) if they're unhappy with his results.

i don't think a car should cost $100,000, but if a manufacturer has a certain reputation and markets themselves to a higher class of car-buyer, they'll sell cars regardless.

while this is entertaining to read, it seems kind of silly for one tout group to attack another, especially when both are good services! if the attackers are so confident in their product, they probably ought to shut the fukk up and stack up several years' worth of documented winning picks before they go attacking a respected group like ras.

let's say 5-10 years go by and i want to stay in the game but i want to defer to a service (which will never happen, this is just an example)--i'm not going with the shit-starting upstarts who thought they could further their name by defaming a respected capper's service. edward's getting free positive marketing out of this because he's not stooping to their level. this is at least a 3 on 1 attack, and i still don't see any ras cronies entering the fold.

**suicidekings** · 06-10-10, 01:17 AM

Originally posted by texhooper

not necessarily. the tout world is more about marketing than anything else. how many touts have legitimate winning records? also, if edward couldn't charge as much as he does, he wouldn't have any customers. in addition to that, the people who buy from him were not held at gunpoint to do so. they have every right in the world to not renew their membership (or whatever it's called) if they're unhappy with his results.

i don't think a car should cost $100,000, but if a manufacturer has a certain reputation and markets themselves to a higher class of car-buyer, they'll sell cars regardless.

while this is entertaining to read, it seems kind of silly for one tout group to attack another, especially when both are good services! if the attackers are so confident in their product, they probably ought to shut the fukk up and stack up several years' worth of documented winning picks before they go attacking a respected group like ras.

let's say 5-10 years go by and i want to stay in the game but i want to defer to a service (which will never happen, this is just an example)--i'm not going with the shit-starting upstarts who thought they could further their name by defaming a respected capper's service. edward's getting free positive marketing out of this because he's not stooping to their level. this is at least a 3 on 1 attack, and i still don't see any ras cronies entering the fold.

Point 1: Fair, however RAS already has a high level of credibility by killing College FB/BB year after year, and are in fact one of the few legitimate services that can boast a winning record in these fields over an extended period (15 years). He doesn't need to rely on flashy marketing like many others do.

Point 2: I agree 100%. Based on the content of this thread, my impression of Ed and RAS has gone up substantially as it's clear that he understands the notion of professionalism, and that's a crucial element of doing business in any industry.

**sweetjones55** · 06-10-10, 07:31 AM

I'm not one to bash but when you manipulate your numbers like ras did and charge more after a negative season then you had it coming. They combined their numbers from the last two seaons to show + numbers. They made it hard for people to find out that they actually didn't even pay off the package last season. You have to go to their picks archive and in a tiny little box it shows 2009's results, only place on the site that shows it.

**Edward-RAS** · 06-10-10, 09:19 AM

Originally posted by sweetjones55

I'm not one to bash but when you manipulate your numbers like ras did and charge more after a negative season then you had it coming. They combined their numbers from the last two seaons to show + numbers. They made it hard for people to find out that they actually didn't even pay off the package last season. You have to go to their picks archive and in a tiny little box it shows 2009's results, only place on the site that shows it.

That is simply not true. Our 2009 record was right on our home page until the season started, and has always been displayed clearly on our pick-archive page (with play by play results, release line, closing line, and line value).

**sweetjones55** · 06-10-10, 09:30 AM

Originally posted by Edward-RAS

That is simply not true. Our 2009 record was right on our home page until the season started, and has always been displayed clearly on our pick-archive page (with play by play results, release line, closing line, and line value).

Well right now that 2009 record is only found in that tiny box. You still clearly have that 56% win rate the past two seasons on the front of your website. Why don't you put up your win rate and units for the last season and this season combined on the front of your site? You are just living off that 2008 record, plain and simple.