John Morrison 2013-14 NBA Thread

**Wallco99** · 11-04-13, 10:30 AM

Originally posted by jonny2k4

Where can the back test be found on this?

New to betting b-ball.

I will have a full extensive backtest posted this week. Thelimit did an abbreviated backtest based on adding a 1 unit bet to the already existing 7/5 system, that was how I initially set it up, and he said the test showed higher profits than just playing straight 7/5. The new 1-7-5 that I am testing is checking for some new criteria, and so far has looked more promising than my initial plan. The strategy I am testing is the way that I played it last season and did very well with it. I just want to make sure it is more profitable long term, rather then just the season I played and the few year test I had done. I currently have completed test back through 2007-08, with the exception of last season which I will do next. Also, there is one season that I tested last year that I want to double check on. But for now, thelimit has posted the abbreviated test somewhere on the last few pages. That looks good as well.

**tavo88** · 11-04-13, 10:43 AM

right on

**thelimit0310** · 11-04-13, 12:44 PM

I'm very interested to see how the backtests without the 3.5 filter turn out. I believe in my very firsts tests of 7/5, before I starting testing filters, showed good results but was very volatile. My goal in the 7/5 was consistent results, which without the filters the 7/5 fell short of providing. One season it was beautiful, and then a few seasons would be negative. I didn't like that. In my original description I have the backtest of 7/5 without the filters and while the winning seasons won more units than with the filter, there were more losing seasons as well. Again, my goal was consistent profits season to season, so that is where my filter came from and it ended up boosting the total of the entire sample over the pre-filter results as well as turning negative seasons into positives. Throwing the A bets into the mix could change this, and I'm curious to see if it does, but regardless my filter is in place to provide more stability and I will probably continue to play it in that way.

**BuckeyeKaptn** · 11-04-13, 01:28 PM

I am aware of the closing line. However, I figured that those questions were going to come, and Atlanta's loss was the perfect example to put it out there. The system is not a play for the forum, but for me personally, I'm playing it.

**Hawk5410** · 11-04-13, 01:34 PM

Originally posted by J.M. Disciple

TheLimits 1-7-5 system

*Not traditional John Morrison system*

a) 1.1 units to win 1
b) 8.91 units to win 8.1
c) 16.51 units to win 15.01

RECAP 11/3/2013
11/3/2013 V3 PHO (A) +12.5 VS OKC
11/3/2013 V1 ATL (A)+1 VS LAL

NEXT PLAYS
11/4/2013 V3 GSW (A) VS PHI

PROFIT: -0.20 units
Record
A) 2-2
B) 0-0
C) 0-0

RULES:Reference Post #184
SCHEDULE: post #78

If anyone has a question please refer to post #184

Closed series via 3.5 filter: Sas and ATL.

I'm assuming the play is on the GSW M/L since they're favored by more than -3 pts?

**BuckeyeKaptn** · 11-04-13, 01:49 PM

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**Grinder12000** · 11-04-13, 04:51 PM

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**Wallco99** · 11-04-13, 04:58 PM

Originally posted by Hawk5410

I'm assuming the play is on the GSW M/L since they're favored by more than -3 pts?

That's two days in a row now. O/U is 80 consecutive days.

**J.M. Disciple** · 11-04-13, 05:23 PM

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**J.M. Disciple** · 11-04-13, 05:24 PM

Originally posted by Hawk5410

I'm assuming the play is on the GSW M/L since they're favored by more than -3 pts?

Please refer to reference post #184 and do not quote the plays.

**BuckeyeKaptn** · 11-04-13, 05:41 PM

Originally posted by Wallco99

That's two days in a row now. O/U is 80 consecutive days.

How many days in a season?

**Wallco99** · 11-04-13, 06:01 PM

Originally posted by BuckeyeKaptn

How many days in a season?

I think I'm just gonna sit back and eat with you!

**Wallco99** · 11-04-13, 06:17 PM

It's not one of our plays, we don't give a shit! We don't pay people in here, so post it or get lost.

**jonny2k4** · 11-04-13, 06:27 PM

Originally posted by Wallco99

I will have a full extensive backtest posted this week. Thelimit did an abbreviated backtest based on adding a 1 unit bet to the already existing 7/5 system, that was how I initially set it up, and he said the test showed higher profits than just playing straight 7/5. The new 1-7-5 that I am testing is checking for some new criteria, and so far has looked more promising than my initial plan. The strategy I am testing is the way that I played it last season and did very well with it. I just want to make sure it is more profitable long term, rather then just the season I played and the few year test I had done. I currently have completed test back through 2007-08, with the exception of last season which I will do next. Also, there is one season that I tested last year that I want to double check on. But for now, thelimit has posted the abbreviated test somewhere on the last few pages. That looks good as well.

Thanks for your work wallco, looking forward to your results.

**miss_sbets** · 11-04-13, 07:31 PM

GSW started well. Good luck.

**CallMeMrOMac** · 11-04-13, 07:46 PM

76ers Was the play.

Bulls and Heat learned this.

**BuckeyeKaptn** · 11-04-13, 08:19 PM

Originally posted by CallMeMrOMac

76ers Was the play.

Bulls and Heat learned this.

OMac, if you think Philly was the play, you might wanna consider rereading the forum before you get slammed by a few people. According to the spreadsheet I made, from Wallco's post, the Warriors are the play...vs Philly.

What's this about Bulls and Heat?

**CallMeMrOMac** · 11-04-13, 08:24 PM

Re-read the forum?

Uh, no. I don't need to read other posts to formulate my own opinion. I was a big winner on this board during last year's NBA campaign.

If it means anything, my 76ers bet was the least of the three bets I made tonight. But I like them to get it within 6.

**BuckeyeKaptn** · 11-04-13, 08:32 PM

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**CallMeMrOMac** · 11-04-13, 08:36 PM

Looks like your system nailed this one.

Glad I went way hard on the Cavs. Bet with my heart on the 76ers for the last time evarrrr.

**Wallco99** · 11-04-13, 11:16 PM

Originally posted by BuckeyeKaptn

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Still eating?

**miss_sbets** · 11-04-13, 11:42 PM

Thanks Wallco99 and J.M.Disciple. Fantastic evening because of your work in NBA/NHL.

**matskoviche** · 11-04-13, 11:55 PM

the day i take off JM pays big

**Wallco99** · 11-04-13, 11:59 PM

Originally posted by matskoviche

the day i take off JM pays big

When did +1 unit become big?

**imotiv8** · 11-05-13, 12:05 AM

Originally posted by Wallco99

When did +1 unit become big?

lol

**J.M. Disciple** · 11-05-13, 03:14 AM

1-7-5 system

*Not traditional John Morrison System*

Bet Sizing
A) Risk 1.1u to win 1u
B) Risk 8.91u to win 8.1u
C) Risk 16.51u to win 15.01u

Recap 11/4/2013
v3 GSW -7 (A) VS PH

I

Profit: +0.80u
Record:
A) 3-2
B) 0-0
C) 0-0

RULES:Reference Post #184
SCHEDULE: post #78

UPCOMING PLAYS
11/5/2013
V1 UTA +10.5 (A) VS BRK
V3 LAL +8.5 (A) VS DAL

**oldshoebox72** · 11-05-13, 07:58 AM

Hi thelimit0310,
I've read through your system in post #184, and do have a question.

You wrote: " If the A bet loses however, it *MUST* lose by more than 3.5 points to the given spread to move on to the B/C level. If the A bet loses but by less than 3.5 points to the spread, you take your A bet loss and the series is over. Think of the A bet as essentially a flat bet, but also a qualifier game for the 7/5 system. If the A bet loses by more than 3.5 points to the spread, it qualifies the B bet. PUSHES DO NOT MEAN LOSSES. On the B bet, place your wager to win net 7 units (A bet loss + 7 units), again we are not buying points. If this bet wins, the series is over. If this bet loses we move to the C bet".

My question is if the A bet is loss more than 3.5 to given spread, the we move to B bet, but does B will will use the same filter (must loss more than 3.5 to given spread) as A bet in order the play to go to C? Or only use the filter on A going B?

Thank you for your time.

**edh1011** · 11-05-13, 08:20 AM

I didn't buy the pts on ATL. So instead of chasing on them, I'm dividing the small loss from ATL into 2 parts. And hitching them onto the next 2 A bets. And as long as those 2 series win, I will recover the loss from ATL

**dlunc3** · 11-05-13, 11:36 AM

Originally posted by oldshoebox72

Hi thelimit0310,
I've read through your system in post #184, and do have a question.

You wrote: " If the A bet loses however, it *MUST* lose by more than 3.5 points to the given spread to move on to the B/C level. If the A bet loses but by less than 3.5 points to the spread, you take your A bet loss and the series is over. Think of the A bet as essentially a flat bet, but also a qualifier game for the 7/5 system. If the A bet loses by more than 3.5 points to the spread, it qualifies the B bet. PUSHES DO NOT MEAN LOSSES. On the B bet, place your wager to win net 7 units (A bet loss + 7 units), again we are not buying points. If this bet wins, the series is over. If this bet loses we move to the C bet".

My question is if the A bet is loss more than 3.5 to given spread, the we move to B bet, but does B will will use the same filter (must loss more than 3.5 to given spread) as A bet in order the play to go to C? Or only use the filter on A going B?

Thank you for your time.

great question

**Bdolan33** · 11-05-13, 12:37 PM

Spurs tonight?

**thelimit0310** · 11-05-13, 01:16 PM

Originally posted by oldshoebox72

Hi thelimit0310,
I've read through your system in post #184, and do have a question.

You wrote: " If the A bet loses however, it *MUST* lose by more than 3.5 points to the given spread to move on to the B/C level. If the A bet loses but by less than 3.5 points to the spread, you take your A bet loss and the series is over. Think of the A bet as essentially a flat bet, but also a qualifier game for the 7/5 system. If the A bet loses by more than 3.5 points to the spread, it qualifies the B bet. PUSHES DO NOT MEAN LOSSES. On the B bet, place your wager to win net 7 units (A bet loss + 7 units), again we are not buying points. If this bet wins, the series is over. If this bet loses we move to the C bet".

My question is if the A bet is loss more than 3.5 to given spread, the we move to B bet, but does B will will use the same filter (must loss more than 3.5 to given spread) as A bet in order the play to go to C? Or only use the filter on A going B?

Thank you for your time.

No. The 3.5 filter only applies to the A bets. If the A bet loses by 3.5 points to the spread, we move on to B and if B loses to the base spread we move on to C.

**takethepnts** · 11-05-13, 01:31 PM

Qucik question .... Buying 3.0 on the Hawks @ the Lakers woulda been a push with them as a 1 point fave . Does that constitute a pass on the B game and a discontinuation of Atlanta on this adjusted version of the traditional system ? Thanks in advance and best of luck tonight , thanks for posting the picks as always !

**Wallco99** · 11-05-13, 02:21 PM

Originally posted by takethepnts

Qucik question .... Buying 3.0 on the Hawks @ the Lakers woulda been a push with them as a 1 point fave . Does that constitute a pass on the B game and a discontinuation of Atlanta on this adjusted version of the traditional system ? Thanks in advance and best of luck tonight , thanks for posting the picks as always !

Atlanta was a one point dog, so with the 3 they WON the bet, not PUSH.

**takethepnts** · 11-05-13, 02:41 PM

Originally posted by Wallco99

Atlanta was a one point dog, so with the 3 they WON the bet, not PUSH.

Thanks Wallco ... i just checked and found that i was looking at the open (atl -1.5) and it closed at a Pick'em , but regardless , its a cover with the three ... You always use scoresandodds for the lines correct ? Thanks again , I was about to put some $ on Atl assuming they pushed , Have a super evening !