John Morrison 2013-14 NBA Thread

[alexknyc]

RECAP 11/2/2013
A. Houston -6 vs Utah

NEXT PLAYS
11/3/2013 V3 PHO (A) VS OKC
11/3/2013 V1 ATL (A) VS LAL

PROFIT: -$10
Record
A) 1-1
B) 0-0
C) 0-0

Reference Post #184

Isn't Phoenix playing New Orleans today?

[ken23lau]

Isn't Phoenix playing New Orleans today?

nope they're playing OKC

[alexknyc]

nope they're playing OKC

You are correct. I was looking at Tuesday's schedule.

[Wallco99]

3.5 plus the spread. Take SA on Friday. They were favored by 7.5 (my line). They won the game by 6 points...losing to the spread by 1.5 points, therefore no play on actual 7/5. If they had won the game by only 3 points, they would lost to the spread by 4.5, therefore making it a play on the B game at 7 units.

Is this correct Wallco/Limit?

Correct

[allidoiswin89]

RECAP 11/2/2013
A. Houston -6 vs Utah

NEXT PLAYS
11/3/2013 V3 PHO (A) VS OKC
11/3/2013 V1 ATL (A) VS LAL

PROFIT: -$10
Record
A) 1-1
B) 0-0
C) 0-0

Reference Post #184

why is there no mention of SAS? I agree that all of this doesn't need to be posted as the schedule is laid out but if you are going to post, do it consistently please. same issue with jm nhl

[allidoiswin89]

jm nhl you never list result from prior night...you just update the record.

[bisturis]

JM,

What's confusing people is these plays are being posted according to a different betting method/system than the original way it was intended. So I'm guessing if you don't include the original way the plays should be then you are going to get a lot of people not understanding this thread all season.

[Bdolan33]

Spurs lose again

[allidoiswin89]

JM,

What's confusing people is these plays are being posted according to a different betting method/system than the original way it was intended. So I'm guessing if you don't include the original way the plays should be then you are going to get a lot of people not understanding this thread all season.

I'm not confused. But if he's calling this the JM system then he needs to post it somehow whether that be via asterisks or whatever is easiest. two different posts would be the cleanest but being someone who creates and posts systems I know how much time that takes

[Wallco99]

Even though I play the 1-7-5, I have to agree with these people. There are now 7 different bet strategies that we have come up with to play the JM NBA system, including a second way to play the 1-7-5 which includes more games than I initially laid out, which when I am finished this test, will hopefully prove to be the strongest method. Not everybody is playing 1-7-5, or 7/5, or 1-3-5, or (-110) 1-1-1, or 3/3, or 3/5, or even traditional for that matter. The JM posts should probably remain the same way that they always have in this thread, and that is by listing the actual plays the way the system is described in the .pdf. Actually, the best way to list them would be as if all games were just plaid for 1 unit on (-110) lines. Then the other players could just skip the plays they are not playing, or stop the series that they already won, instead of guessing what their plays are or asking why it isn't listed. By doing it this way, ALL plays will be listed, and not just the ones that qualify for 7/5 criteria. I realize that the schedule is posted and people should have no reason to wait for someone to post, but you know that is NEVER going to happen in this thread. A lot of people just play traditional JM at all (-110) odds. These people were not properly informed by the update because the San Antonio game would have been a (B) bet for them, as well as the way I play it also. It is better to list NON FILTERED plays so people can choose their own filters to use rather than listing filtered plays and causing confusion. I liked the fact that you were posting it 1-7-5 style, but I feel that this arguement is going to happen every time a play doesn't qualify on (B) bet by the 7/5 criteria because many people will still be playing that (B) bet with their bet strategy.

Do whatever you wish, I have my own spreadsheets and know every game I am playing ahead of time. Besides, the standings you are posting don't even reflect the way I actually play 1-7-5 anyway. Good luck.

[BuckeyeKaptn]

Wallco is correct. Everyone needs their own spreadsheet. Download the one I made on post #78. It is editable. I've already added columns to it showing units won and lost so I can reference it when making my plays. If you don't have a spreadsheet, you might as well burn your money or, better yet, give it to a charity than giving it to your bookie, casino, online account. You won't have to keep coming on here looking for the plays when it's possible that the poster is unable to post the plays...and you're screwed. Don't expect the plays to be on here...plan for them not to be, and when they show up, compare the plays to what you should already have.

[allidoiswin89]

Even though I play the 1-7-5, I have to agree with these people. There are now 7 different bet strategies that we have come up with to play the JM NBA system, including a second way to play the 1-7-5 which includes more games than I initially laid out, which when I am finished this test, will hopefully prove to be the strongest method. Not everybody is playing 1-7-5, or 7/5, or 1-3-5, or (-110) 1-1-1, or 3/3, or 3/5, or even traditional for that matter. The JM posts should probably remain the same way that they always have in this thread, and that is by listing the actual plays the way the system is described in the .pdf. Actually, the best way to list them would be as if all games were just plaid for 1 unit on (-110) lines. Then the other players could just skip the plays they are not playing, or stop the series that they already won, instead of guessing what their plays are or asking why it isn't listed. By doing it this way, ALL plays will be listed, and not just the ones that qualify for 7/5 criteria. I realize that the schedule is posted and people should have no reason to wait for someone to post, but you know that is NEVER going to happen in this thread. A lot of people just play traditional JM at all (-110) odds. These people were not properly informed by the update because the San Antonio game would have been a (B) bet for them, as well as the way I play it also. It is better to list NON FILTERED plays so people can choose their own filters to use rather than listing filtered plays and causing confusion. I liked the fact that you were posting it 1-7-5 style, but I feel that this arguement is going to happen every time a play doesn't qualify on (B) bet by the 7/5 criteria because many people will still be playing that (B) bet with their bet strategy.

Do whatever you wish, I have my own spreadsheets and know every game I am playing ahead of time. Besides, the standings you are posting don't even reflect the way I actually play 1-7-5 anyway. Good luck.

couldn't agree more

[J.M. Disciple]

all questions asked today and last night can be answered by reading the last two pages


please read

[J.M. Disciple]

#1 I am not going to recap SAS as a B bet because they lost their A bet and did not qualify via the 3.5 filter clearly laid out by Thelimit. Please read the thread and you would know this, its also referenced in my post.

#2 If you think there is a play that I missed when posting than check the schedule on post #78 and see if its there. If its not there than it is not a play. If you still believe its a play please check and see how many road games the team is playing and make sure its not the middle of their road trip.

#3 I will continue to post the plays via 1-7-5 method since that is the strongest proven method. I do not see the point in posting traditional method when it in fact does not make the most money season to season. Spread sheet is on post #78 so if you are playing traditional and know all the filters than download the spread sheet and GTFO of this thread. We are not playing ml on favorites. Everything is via closing line on covers ATS.

[imotiv8]

good stuff JMD! Everything is plain and simple

[J.M. Disciple]

TheLimits 1-7-5 system

*Not traditional John Morrison system*

a) 1.1 units to win 1
b) 8.91 units to win 8.1
c) 16.51 units to win 15.01

RECAP 11/2/2013
A. Houston -6 vs Utah

NEXT PLAYS
11/3/2013 V3 PHO (A) +12.5 VS OKC
11/3/2013 V1 ATL (A) -1 VS LAL

PROFIT: -0.10 units
Record
A) 1-1
B) 0-0
C) 0-0

For rules please see reference link. For schedule please see post #78
Reference Post #184If anyone has a question please refer to post #184

PS
SAS is not a C-bet via 1-7-5 system. If you bet it as a B bet than you should #1 update the thread for email notifications so you can see the play was canceled way before game time via filter. #2 Consider taking a loss since its not a Traditional or 1-7-5 play. If you play it as a C-bet please consider it your own personal bet and not part of this system.

Thank You
JMD

[Wallco99]

#1 I am not going to recap SAS as a B bet because they lost their A bet and did not qualify via the 3.5 filter clearly laid out by Thelimit. Please read the thread and you would know this, its also referenced in my post.

#2 If you think there is a play that I missed when posting than check the schedule on post #78 and see if its there. If its not there than it is not a play. If you still believe its a play please check and see how many road games the team is playing and make sure its not the middle of their road trip.

#3 I will continue to post the plays via 1-7-5 method since that is the strongest proven method. I do not see the point in posting traditional method when it in fact does not make the most money season to season. Spread sheet is on post #78 so if you are playing traditional and know all the filters than download the spread sheet and GTFO of this thread. We are not playing ml on favorites. Everything is via closing line on covers ATS.

That's OK, but if you are going to post a system that is different than the original, and no where in your updates list the plays or results of the original as well, then questions are 100% going to arise everyday, and posts like #224 are out of line because the confusion could be avoided with informative posts. Stevex wasn't always available to post on time last season because of work issues. But when he did, He posted the JM system the way it was intended to be played as well as a layout of the way he was playing it in the same post.

None of us like the same questions repeated every day. When I am posting a system, if I notice a repetitive question, I try to post the answer to that question in every update so it won't be asked again. If it is, then I agree that sometimes I will post a comment such as post #224 because i KNOW I answer that question every time I post an update, and in that case, people are NOT reading. But if you are not willing to cooperate, then expect to ANSWER the questions every day and not make the "go read the thread" posts, because the thread will be very confusing. Even to us who fully ubderstand it. I am not trying to start a fight with you so don't take it the wrong way and lash back. It's just that the JM NBA season is two plays old and there is already confusion and it is only going to get worse, and most of all, it can mostly be avoided.

[Grinder12000]

Seems weird - why would you have profits in dollars. Why not the universal standard units!

[thelimit0310]

Seems weird - why would you have profits in dollars. Why not the universal standard units!

I agree JMD use a unit count instead of US dollars. Good job otherwise

[allidoiswin89]

Seems weird - why would you have profits in dollars. Why not the universal standard units!

there is a reason wallco gets so many points for the way he posts. I catch myself emulating his posting schedule as it's the easiest to read. jm has been known to troll in threads so im sure this will only be the start of the confusion and rants to come...it is a time commitment when u sign up for this duty...either do it the right way or someone else will.

[calebepley93]

I don't even get what's being debated. It's pretty clear what JM is doing, he's tracking the system that has been shown to be the most profitable. I for one would rather see that than anything else. Name it something different if its too much a problem.

After going through last years thread and judging by how this one is starting, I think the real issue is clutter. There probably needs to be a separate thread for each one of the NBA systems.

[J.M. Disciple]

I am not going to clutter it any more than it is. I have made adjustments to my post concerning units and not dollars and it is noted its not traditional JM system in the post. I am sure there will still be more confusion, but most questions and adjustments have now been made.

Allidoiswin89 --I had a response written, but your childish games by calling me a troll is LOL and I will not be involved in your childish ways.

[allidoiswin89]

I am not going to clutter it any more than Iit is. I have made adjustments to my post concerning units and not dollars and it is noted its not traditional JM system in the post. I am sure there will still be more confusion, but most questions and adjustments have now been made.

Allidoiswin89 --I had a response written, but your childish games by calling me a troll is LOL and I will not be involved in your childish ways.

I think your use of "lol" demonstrates who the child is...

And your comments/actions are well documented in SBR...everything I said is already known by those who have been on here for years. Others will learn themselves...unless you've finally matured.

[J.M. Disciple]

I think your use of "lol" demonstrates who the child is...

And your comments/actions are well documented in SBR...everything I said is already known by those who have been on here for years. Others will learn themselves...unless you've finally matured.

You comments are troll comments. Come in here and ask questions that have already been answered = troll. You come in here and without me even saying nothing to you try to talk trash. GTFO.

[dlunc3]

Feels kinda weird actually wanting to lose a bet haha..even though I have money on these A bets, I know the real money is made on the B bet winners..

[ken23lau]

Damn, buying the points would've pushed the bet.

[Wallco99]

Damn, buying the points would've pushed the bet.

Actually, it would have won the bet. Now on to the (B) bet for 7 is where I go.

[J.M. Disciple]

TheLimits 1-7-5 system

*Not traditional John Morrison system*

a) 1.1 units to win 1
b) 8.91 units to win 8.1
c) 16.51 units to win 15.01

RECAP 11/3/2013
11/3/2013 V3 PHO (A) +12.5 VS OKC
11/3/2013 V1 ATL (A)+1 VS LAL

NEXT PLAYS
11/4/2013 V3 GSW (A) VS PHI

PROFIT: -0.20 units
Record
A) 2-2
B) 0-0
C) 0-0

RULES:Reference Post #184
SCHEDULE: post #78

If anyone has a question please refer to post #184

Closed series via 3.5 filter: Sas and ATL.

[knugen]

Oh. Our first 7/5 bet

[BuckeyeKaptn]

I got Atl at -2, 7/5 time for me

According to JMD, Atl was a +1 spread. I got Atl at -2. My spread was off by 4, his by 1...so his spread isn't a 7/5 and thus ends the series. Mine is and I'm rolling to the B bet. Everyone should choose what they want to do. We are only guiding you. Don't place blame if Atl doesn't cover the next 2 games.

Plus, I'm still on SA tomorrow!!

[Kev the Brit]

I got Atl at -2, 7/5 time for me

According to JMD, Atl was a +1 spread. I got Atl at -2. My spread was off by 4, his by 1...so his spread isn't a 7/5 and thus ends the series. Mine is and I'm rolling to the B bet. Everyone should choose what they want to do. We are only guiding you. Don't place blame if Atl doesn't cover the next 2 games.

Plus, I'm still on SA tomorrow!!

Well, you can do whatever you want, but the 1/7/5 system back test is based on the closing line at Covers.com, so JMD is quite right to publish the Atl result as a 1.1 unit loss to the system.

[allidoiswin89]

TheLimits 1-7-5 system

*Not traditional John Morrison system*

a) 1.1 units to win 1
b) 8.91 units to win 8.1
c) 16.51 units to win 15.01

RECAP 11/3/2013
11/3/2013 V3 PHO (A) +12.5 VS OKC
11/3/2013 V1 ATL (A)+1 VS LAL

NEXT PLAYS
11/4/2013 V3 GSW (A) VS PHI

PROFIT: -0.20 units
Record
A) 2-2
B) 0-0
C) 0-0

RULES:Reference Post #184
SCHEDULE: post #78

If anyone has a question please refer to post #184

Closed series via 3.5 filter: Sas and ATL.

much improved. thanks.

[Wallco99]

Well, you can do whatever you want, but the 1/7/5 system back test is based on the closing line at Covers.com, so JMD is quite right to publish the Atl result as a 1.1 unit loss to the system.

Yes, the one I am doing is based on Covers.com also. Jury is still out on taking that 1.1 unit loss on (A) bets. I will hopefully have this backtest done soon.

[jonny2k4]

Well, you can do whatever you want, but the 1/7/5 system back test is based on the closing line at Covers.com, so JMD is quite right to publish the Atl result as a 1.1 unit loss to the system.

Where can the back test be found on this?

New to betting b-ball.

[thelimit0310]

Yes the 7/5 and 1-7/5 are all based on the closing line at Covers.