Leans or Saturday 12/27/08

[cocknocker]

peterpan,

yeah that Safety early in the game came back to haunt that pick. We were on the right side, buta hairline call did it in. I don't like the Florida State/Wisconsin game. I am gonn wait until the half to make a decision on that one. Something tells me we can ask roasthawg. He seems to know everything. Hey roasthawg, which way should we go on this next bowl game?

[cocknocker]

peterpan19,

Ask roasthawg. He knows which side we should take.

[Spoon]

Since I can't ever bet on FSU, I took the under 52.5 on this game as my first add to my card. In addition, I have Cal -8 (bought the hook as a Christmas gift to me).

FSU/UW-M - Under 52.5
Cal -8

GL

[roasthawg]

Okay so what is it in college football, college basketball, baseball, professional football, college basketball, etc and then come back and tell me I'm wrong agan, I said ALL not some, you did 1/6th of your homework and come back talking lame about just basketball. Do ALL ot some of your homework. You are a funny guy. You even have quoted my post with all of the sports in it and pidgeonholed basketball only as if that's the only sport i do it in. Don't make stuff up

Less than 26% of dogs have won in college football since 1983...do I really need to keep going??

In the NFL it's 33% since 1985. C'mon man...you're just losing credibility now. Noway no how do anywhere near 50% of underdogs win straight up...just how stupid do you think Vegas is?? Everyone and their mom could play every underdog on the moneyline and make a killing!

You have people actually putting their money out there based upon some of your advice...the least you could do is keep it real. You're making things up.

[Dexter]

Dexter,

I like that! Milwaukee only has only 21% of bettors on their side, yet the line went up to 5. So matter of fact, I am going to go with you on your pick, and take the Bucks to get the job done, and I am dropping New Jersey+4, as I don't like the line movement. According to power rankings, the Bucks should win by 10. There is nothing that I can find wrong with your pick. I'm in.

sounds good - i'll be adding the pc play to my card as well later...

[roasthawg]

Since I can't ever bet on FSU, I took the under 52.5 on this game as my first add to my card. In addition, I have Cal -8 (bought the hook as a Christmas gift to me).

FSU/UW-M - Under 52.5
Cal -8

GL

I'm on both of these plays as well!

[cocknocker]

I like that Spoon,

but I am waiting for our resident genius roasthawg to give me the final play on the side for this game. This is the part of this thing of ours that i like; it's no fun when the rabbit has the gun. Time to walk the walk, roaster

[indeed]

Good for Pat White to win that game .. bad for me since I had them -2.5 .. looks like I've officially hit a dry spell!

[sharkfan]

I agree with you roasthawg. It's not good money management to fade your own bets. The +1000 payoff on a dog such as GS in last nights Celtics game will come in on average less than 10% of the time - unless one believes the books are in the business of NOT making money. There is vig on every bet you make.

I believe a central tenet of good money management must involve a detailed accounting of one's investments. Perhaps I will get into more of my ideas later.

CK, I am with you on the Washington PC play. Good Luck.

[roasthawg]

I like that Spoon,

but I am waiting for our resident genius roasthawg to give me the final play on the side for this game. This is the part of this thing of ours that i like; it's no fun when the rabbit has the gun. Time to walk the walk, roaster

Wtf are you even talking about...I went 4-2 yesterday on my posted NBA plays, how'd you do??

I'm up over 40 units this year in the NFL, CFB, and the NBA combined on my posted plays on this site. I went 17-3 last week in the NFL best bets thread and 10-5 the week before that taking the top spot each week. I post plays each and every day to help people out and I never make things up.

[cocknocker]

Roaster is still not doing ALL of his homework. Where are your baseball numbers. You continue to do partial numbers and it's starting to get funny now. 33% is not far off from 50% just so you'll know. But i am very interested in what you come up with for baseball, college basketball and. You must be a "C" student because you don't do all of your homework, and it's starting to get to be unbelieveable that you are turning in your work without it being complete. You're a gas

[peterpan19]

ck
thx, maye we can make some money at the half

roasthawg
c'mon, some guys are lucky some dont
if ck makes money on his fade account great, he knows when to take the + and when to go for the ml,

ck
what did/will you take for the was game, ml or + for okc ?
thx

[roasthawg]

Roaster is still not doing ALL of his homework. Where are your baseball numbers. You continue to do partial numbers and it's starting to get funny now. 33% is not far off from 50% just so you'll know. But i am very interested in what you come up with for baseball, college basketball and. You must be a "C" student because you don't do all of your homework, and it's starting to get to be unbelieveable that you are turning in your work without it being complete. You're a gas

Omg, now 33% is not far from 50%?!? Ok man, I'm done...the only reason I called you out is because you have people who actually put their money out there based on what you say. G/L with your plays.

[cocknocker]

Yesterday, I went 1-5 on my NBA wagers, losses with New jersey/Charlotte over, Houston, Sacramento, Boston, and new York Team total to go over 110.5



4-0 on my moneyline fades (New Orleans, Denver, Golden State, Toronto. I didn't fade my total bet with Charlotte/New Jersey and team total on New York)

[Dexter]

Omg, now 33% is not far from 50%?!? Ok man, I'm done...the only reason I called you out is because you have people who actually put their money out there based on what you say. G/L with your plays.

nm - missed the above post

[cocknocker]

roasthawg,

you're still not doing your homework with completion. I bet baseball as well. You are at a C- for your incomplete homework. I said combined and i be damned if you aren't doing it. So tell me what number of games had a run score in the 1st inning versus games that didn't. Then also tell me the amount of outright dog winners in baseball as well. When the numbers start to even up, and you take that 33% into account you will start to see that my statement of the 50% of outright dog winners in all sports COMBINED (there's that word again) is not far off. C'mon genius. You're priceless. i know that you couldn't possibly have a good marriage with listening skills like this

[cocknocker]

Spooner,

While roasthawg uses his search engine and completes his homework i decided to go with you on a small one for the under in Florida State/Wisconsin. Big back and bad quarterbacking and sound defense adds up to an under.

Under 51

[peterpan19]

early lines for sunday
den -3.5
cle -10.5
bos -12

mia and sac look not bad, but its too early right now to say

[cocknocker]

roasthawg, i will spare you the 1st inning wager information. Because you don't now what you're doing in baseball wagering. i will tell you and then you can check to back me up this is what i did last year. On live games i double up through the third inning until a run does score (betus)

may 230 wins, 193 losses
june 217 wins, 192 losses
july 168 wins, 28 live bet wins, 180 losses 4 live bet losses
august 240 wins 16 live bet wins 183 losses 6 live bet losses
september 216 wins, 160 losses
MLB playoffs 2 losses (Chicago White sox/Twins 1 and done game, Lester/Lackey game 3)
ALL THE REST WHERE LIVE BETTING WINS INCLUDING THE WORLD SERIES

[nonsense48]

ck. in gambling the diff between 33% and 50% is huge my friend. and i not tryin' to bust your balls. gl

[nonsense48]

and even at 50% you lose

[nonsense48]

i don't bet baseball. never have never will. i know nothing about it so i can't debate it with you

[nonsense48]

i do very well with straight bets and over/under on nba cba nfl and ncaafb

[nonsense48]

i know if i don't do 65% i'm not doing very well

[Turkish]

hi guys again

i am taking 192 under for jazz-houston..They are tired and they have injuried players..They play slow and this is a hard match..Any idea for that match?

and i am asking who can score most ? rudy gay or tim duncan ?

[nonsense48]

ck, roast, spoon, ct and everyone else. however you play and wager good luck and GOD bless .

[nonsense48]

i also know that it's a full time job and if anyone thinks that they can come and just pick winners day after day without studying is a fool who will soon be parted from his money

[cocknocker]

Now, roasthawg,

I was told that i couldn't make money taking the 1st inning to score a run and doubling up through the 3rd inning until one does score with live betting. i want you to break out your calulator and figure this one out. I wager $200.00 per game until the middle to end of June, and from that point forward, i wager $300.00 on each game for a run to score. Then you tell me why I have such a nice following. And tis is with absolutely no homework involved.

Now what have you offered to people that will pay them like that long term year after year which they had no knowledge of doing it prior to you telling them that? And you brag on some 4-2 record yestrday... don't make me laugh. Show the people how to fish and they eat forever. Give them a fish and they are full for one day. And you know what do with ALL of that money after I get it? I find a sucker sportsbook that gives up a sign up bonus of 50% for football season and I damnnear double it. Then I use that account for small hedge fades, which you are lauging at and do just that to satisfy the requirements for receiving the bonus to begin with. Then when basketball season comes around I pull a little out for basketball, and the same for football. I'm doing nicely in football so I have added to that stack. 4-2 yesterday, so what? I make a living off of the books money. I am what I am doing. And I don't brag or boast. You couldn't even tell if i had a bad or a good day. But i also won't let anyone talk bad about yuo either if you are on my thread. You know what that's called?

Class

[NYCKEV]

CK I fell back from the FSU-WIS game and will also wait til the half. Keep me posted on ur pick for the half. GL to all

[nonsense48]

i could see how that would work in baseball and i may just give it a shot come spring

[SlicWilly3]

peterpan,

yeah that Safety early in the game came back to haunt that pick. We were on the right side, buta hairline call did it in. I don't like the Florida State/Wisconsin game. I am gonn wait until the half to make a decision on that one. Something tells me we can ask roasthawg. He seems to know everything. Hey roasthawg, which way should we go on this next bowl game?

Well you could make the same argument for UNC. If they hadn't fumbled in the 4th qtr they would have been in fg range.....Or possibly scored a td again going up 2 scores....
Roasthawg was just giving his opinion..... He's actually a very good capper....
We're all just trying to make a buck......We should be helping each other. I enjoy this thread because it has a few guys that can consistently pick more winners than losers in the NBA.
Which NBA is def NOT my strong suit....I don't have the league pass, and don't follow it as much as some of the guys in here....
As for the bowl game:
I know it's pointless now because the game is in the 1st qtr 0-0....But I have Flor State as a pk on a teaser with UNC +8, and Miami +16.
I also took the Under 51 for 200.
G/L Everybody......Hopefully we can all help each other win some money today

[cocknocker]

nonsense48,

I mentioned the word combined, and he ran away from that and started quoting only a few soprts, instead of all as I made mention of. he is coming to a startling reality right about now. Baseball wgering is the hardest wager that there is in sports, and i have mastered it in ways that no one thought possible. Including College baseball playoffs and World Series I average more than 300 wins more than losses, and most of tose are at $300.00 a pop,which means that I make close to $90,000.00 a year on that sport alone, and it funds all of the other wagering that i do, including basketball. I know how to manage my money VERY well, yet this guy seems to have ideas that i don't know what i am doing, and i am provong to him that i do. I have a following for a reason. I make my boys big money. No one is prospering like that from anything that roasthawg has come up with in his wagering career. I can give the name of an agent at Betus right now and get anyone in here a monster bonus based upon my clout alone.

roasthawg,

if you want something to talk about talk about putting up nothing less than 3 grand on 14 plays and going 10-3 on the NBA and NFL season. You're good with math. How much did I lose doing that? PC Plays are something else, homes.

[nonsense48]

i know myself i wager anywhere from a nickle to 10 dimes per wager at any given time and it's far from easy.

[SlicWilly3]

What I would LOVE to know in all honesty.....Is College Basketball Dogs winning percentage.....When say the line is between +1 to +10
I love taking ML Dogs in College Basketball......
Today for example I took 5:
Wast St 200 to win 360 (LOSS)
Drexel 200 to win 480 (WIN)
West Virginia 200 to win 280 (pending....wv up 10 in 2nd though)
Iona 200 to win 440
Colo State 200 to win 380

I curious.....because to make money you really could hit between 35-40%.... I'm guessing those figures....
I know Drexel just won me 480......I lost 200 on Wash St.....So I'm up 280 with 3 pending.....

Anyone know how to check that? ML College Basketball Dogs.....NOT Ridiculous double figure ones..... Say +1 to +10 or +12.....Any help with that would be much appreciated.....And hopefully can help all of us make some cash

[nonsense48]

see, i would never put up 200 to win 80.